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- glasgowm, on 10/12/2007, -2/+55http://youtube.com/watch?v=jJTLL1UjvfU
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+40Dugg for the golden shower.
***** the police state. I just wanna get whizzed on. - Renton, on 10/12/2007, -3/+37"Stop the big brother state"
Ok, so what do I do? - Protean1, on 10/12/2007, -5/+34Know a few friends you can trust to watch your back.
Take up a martial art. Start going to the range.
Sell your TV. Upgrade your PC.
Join a neighborhood watch
(or a militia if you can find one).
Make a radio jammer.
Build a HERF.
Don't network.
Stay in small groups.
Read the Constitution,
the Declaration of Independence
And the Bill of Rights.
That's all the networking you need.
Read more books.
Develop a moral code.
Raise good kids.
And instead of shopping, drinking or smoking
your way to satisfaction, get out and hike, fish,
bike, watch the stars, go to honky-tonk bars,
blues clubs, bonfires and anywhere you can
actually engage yourself with great people. - soccernamlak, on 10/12/2007, -2/+28[This comment has been removed due to violations of Federal Law]
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+28Both of which were part of the context in the video. Not quite easter eggs.
- quantumHobbit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+21Big Brother is watching me watch this movie. Hold on who is that at the door.
-disappears for 3 months-
All hail Big Brother. May IngSoc be forever victorious. - cheekybastard, on 10/12/2007, -1/+20***** brilliant, reminds me of an oldie: http://youtube.com/watch?v=tmP8Bgof6KE
- digger1942, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16"Ok, so what do I do?"
It's called the "Four Boxes". I don't think anyone has the balls to use them though... We just want our Wal-Mart and false illusions of security... Ignorance is bliss. - bitcloud, on 10/12/2007, -4/+19I saw this last night... not only is it a feat of communications, but it's also a feat of motion graphics design... its some of the slickest work i've seen in a while..
I always get a bit of a warm fuzzy feeling knowing that the "liberal" (to use a meaningless title used to box in intelligent people who understand that we should treat each other fairly and justly) are more intelligent, therefore the anti-fascism propaganda will always be far more evocative and well done than any of the pro-fascism/pro-war propaganda (remember that movie stealth? nor do I...)
btw, http://www.bigbrotherstate.com/ is the current official domain if you wanted to spread the word :) - riccohasdug, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15I understand your point, but the very "idea" of "Trusted Computing" is skewed.
Do you really think MS and Intel will not turn this into a platform to block out non-trusted OS'es (Linux, OS X, and yes, "non-Trusted" or "pirated versions" versions of Windows)?
I run a dual-boot system on every PC I own; I'm well-versed in both Linux and Windows; how does "Trusted Computing" help me (or any independent software developer)?
I don't need firmware to protect me from PEBCAK. - Eggzb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11These guys do great work this is another video by the same guy.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3977512793520167160&hl=en
Pay attention. Wake up. Stop throwing around the tin-foil hat reference. - j4200, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11Trusted Computing is less about security and more about the billion dollar software market being kept control of. Its always about control.
- hellpancho, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10You obviously know nothing about big brother.... Big Brother as in George Orwell's Novel : Nineteen Eighty four. If you don't like to read, there is a good film adaptation made by, Michael Radford... And not that crap Endemol designed and all networks were so happy to push towards a mindless mob of viewers (i.e ourselves). Educate yourself before calling anyone names. Ignorance in what intolerance is made of...
- MrBabyMan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Download page (available in Xvid, h264, Theora and Flash):
http://www.fh-augsburg.de/~thedude/bbs/download.html - sysoprock, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12I've worked for a few years in the surveillance industry and while I can't go into details on what I've worked with and who I've worked for, I can say I've worked with some of the most advanced video technology available and people's ideas of what surveillance can do are completely beyond what the technology is actually capable of at this moment.
Facial recognition is still very spotty. Auto-tracking of a single object in an empty frame can be done, but taking a single object in a crowded space and trying to do the same thing is impossible. It's still impossible to blow up a small spot on recorded video and have it look like anything other than a jumble of pixels (pretty much the highest resolution you can record at and maintain a decent framerate is 720 × 480). It's going to take a couple of years for hard drive capacity and encoding power to get to the point where you'll be able to encode and store multiple megapixel images every second that are capable of being blown up like you see on shows like Las Vegas and CSI.
In other words, all this ***** is still fiction.
I'm not saying that cameras in London aren't capable of seeing a guy, locking on to him and following his movements, I'm just saying that in order to do that, theres probably a guy with a database of photos he has to manually parse through and a joystick to manually move and switch between the cameras in order to follow the suspect. - dadioflex, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12@paulowen - CCTV keeps everybody in check? I guess so. But what the film ignores is that even if CCTV doesn't prevent crime it makes it a lot easier to track down those responsible. The big argument against CCTV has nothing to do with invasion of privacy - the cameras are in public places after all - and has more to do with the fact that while you can guarantee that having an area under supervision will reduce crime it probably moves it to other areas.
I live in the UK, which is the CCTV nation by all accounts. I was also brought up in Belfast during the "troubles" when bombs went off without warning in shops and businesses on a regular basis. I'm fine with my email being read, the websites I visit tracked and my movements (of the non-bowel variety) tracked. But I can remember stepping over an arm when I was six when I was getting rushed to the bus stop after an explosion.
To be honest the phone-tapping and the email scanning and the trusted(!) computing I could care less about either way. But CCTV has been used to bring convictions against criminals time and time again. And if taking criminals off the streets stops them re-offending in the short term then I guess it does even prevent crime. Well, except they probably get a fine or community service and get released back onto the streets to re-offend. Bet they don't go back to where the cameras are though.
And let's say we remove all the CCTV cameras in use in city centres across the UK. What material difference will this make to our individual liberty? And will we be happy when the thug that kicked our teeth in and bit off our ear gets off because of lack of evidence? You'll see police in every one of those city centres and they're usually sat in their squad cars observing the carnage going on. Stick a camera on them and they have to work for a living as any of those TV cop on the beat documentaries will show. The stark difference between the behaviour of the police in real life and on the telly, either in drama or reality TV, will not be lost on most people. And I appreciate it's different in the US but before you criticise me do some research on how hand-cuffed the UK police are by their own bureaucracy.
So what is the alternative to CCTV monitoring being offered by the anti-Big Brother brigade? We have a proven method for increasing conviction rates in CCTV - take it away and what are they going to replace it with? - MrBabyMan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Or this other classic about Trusted Computing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1H7omJW4TI - tempusrob, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7"This includes the ability of a program to send out a signed certificate that it has not been tampered and is running on trusted computing hardware."
s/a program/DRM/ and you'll understand why most reasonable people oppose the idea. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Frighteningly true. ***** the neocons who want this nightmare to materialize.
- fxmcleod, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Oh my god... do you seriously mean Big Brother the TV show...
that's just a whole new level of stupid. Why would anyone... EVER just up-an name a TV show Big Brother? You really never asked yourself that? - cptn_cardboard, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7"...and to the republic, for which it stands, one nation..."
hey, ur right :O - spyd3rweb, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7broomet buries anything critical of his loving and caring nanny state. ***** YOU SCUMBAG!
- Swivelstick, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Fiction for how long though?
But until people stop supporting the corporate world things will continue on the same path but that requires a diametric shift in peoples thought process..The majority still look to them for solutions to everything. But we now have the technology and the means to share information, where we can start to move away from this dependence especially in relation to energy but we don't..
We've moved from government to fix things to the government now paying the corporate world to fix everything from disaster relief to armies what happens when the gov runs out of money?? It's getting close...... - jake57, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Am I the only one waiting for this to get so bad that I get to join the underground rebel movement?
/waits - alphaeno, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Nice. I was at school and some activists followed me across campus preaching to come to a rally to stop a war in Iran. I told her, a small rally isn't going to stop a war, I've been to a few rallies with no effect, you have to vote and elect someone that isn't funded by corporations.
And to think that America is going to fight in Iran is mind boggling, America can barely fight in Iraq and Afghanistan. If America does go into Iran, I think http://www.blackwaterusa.com/ will take up a lot of the fighting in Iraq. Did you know these guys in the private mercenary sector make 6 figures and are hired to protect Generals in the Army! The Generals don't use regular infantry for security, they use blackwater mercs!
Sorry for jumping around topics like I have ADD, this stuff just fascinates me. - marmanukem, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6@paulowen
Only problem with that is that the police are the ones watching. - alphaeno, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7This is one of the reasons why I want to be a lawyer, someone has to protect our rights. Btw, there is no democracy, there is no such government. The USA is a Republic.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Government_of_the_United_States - nofxjunkee, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7@dhughes: As a Canadian your words make me sad. We need to make sure that we don't get sucked into the US's crazy schemes like we did with the war on drugs. No cameras for me, thank you very much. I take pride in the fact that Canada is the most free country in North America and I don't want that to change. If it gets bad here like it is in the USA right now then I am seriously considering leaving Canada... and I love this country.
We have a choice. Like you said murders are fairly rare in most parts. Why do we need cameras? I'm sorry but I feel perfectly safe here. The terrorism scare tactics will not work on me. - garg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5It won't be fiction for long. I work in the computer sciences department of a respected university and our knowledge discovery and data mining department experiments with every thing from tracking different types of cells in a tiny sample of blood to tracking cars and people shot by surveillance videos. Like you said, it might not be in use today by regular surveillance companies but the technology to do that is already here.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6If I make a comment that I want to make I may be Considered a Terrorist under this administration...so I can't say I how I feel. We are doomed.
- Guitarsenal, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4"Frighteningly true. ***** the neocons who want this nightmare to materialize."
If you think this is all brought to you by one side of the political spectrum you are wrong. The answer to the far right is not to go far left. These "wings" do not set you free... - bobzibub, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I think the real battle ground is for children. Kids are being socialized into accepting invasive inspections of all kinds. Confiscating random cell phones to read text messages. Random searches and locker searches. Cell phones that report locations. A decade from today these kids will be adults who have grown accustomed to other people poking their noses into their business with little justification.
Perhaps I'm wrong, but I think the decisive battle will be fought there.
They might fight this or be happy little prisoners, I don't know. - BGFeltenink, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4A democratic-republic. A subtle, but clear, distinction.
- magneticblue, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Tremendous question which shows why that state exists.
- coredump0x01, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3If you like privacy, you could use the Anonym.OS live CD ( http://linuxtracker.org/torrents-details.php?id=1249 )for emailing, web surfing, and other internet-related activities. It's based on OpenBSD and routes all it's inbound and outbound traffic through the Tor network. Open source operating systems do not communicate with Trusted Computing modules installed on some motherboards. There are TPM drivers for Linux, but they are not included with the Linux kernel.
- skiesel93, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Read some Michael Parenti (www.michaelparenti.org) and get a first rate education on how the government exists to facilitate big business.
The first step is freeing your mind, and to do that you will have to get past all that capitalist propaganda you've been raised with. - againsttyranny, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7well first off get informed infowars.net
- TheBag, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Ignorance is strength.
- powatom, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5CCTV surveillance is not a deterrent to crime - nor does it help much with identification. Have you never SEEN CCTV footage, or seen the stills on Crimewatch? The vast, vast majority of it is extremely poor quality - the only time it helps with identification is in very close quarters, with slow moving subjects, and in certain lighting conditions. When are these conditions satisfied? Petty crime - shoplifting etc. I am absolutely unconcerned about shoplifting. I am just a tad more concerned about being stabbed to death. Violence doesn't happen in slow motion - and CCTV is pretty much useless for anything happening quickly.
In any case - you have to be a complete boxed-in moron to not know that there aren't CCTV cameras all over the place today. Do you really think that the people who are likely to commit crimes, then, are bothered at all by the cameras? Of course they're not. Only an idiot would suggest that CCTV has reduced crime significantly. Yes - they may make you thing twice if you're only about to commit some petty crime like vandalism or shoplifting, but for serious crimes - violence, terrorism or whatever - the human brain just doesn't function like that. You aren't a rational person if you're trying to cave someone's face in with a brick - there's no reason to suggest that the presence of a CCTV camera will make you stop. Crime prevention by way of surveillance is a joke - the only thing that can prevent crime is a visible police presence to react quickly as soon as trouble flares up, and a strong community - where people look out for each other rather than walk past for fear of retribution. - CptZap, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Did no one else notice the backwards spelling of Orwell at 2:15?
It said "George Llewro" - m0d3s7m1k3, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"The road to hell is paved with good intentions."
- Endemoniada, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6thegenome, you are WAY too naive. How many of the people in the american "terrorist" camps do you really think have been blowing people up? How many were captured in america at all, and not just disappeared in the middle of the night in some other country where the people would be quite upset if they knew just how easily the US can walk right in and do what they please? The US does not provide proof, they only demand. Here in Sweden, they closed down ~50 websites, many of them owned by companies who depended on those website for business, by harassing our government do put a stop to The Pirate Bay.
Think about it. All that for ONE website, that didn't even have anything to do with terrorism. You are childish if you really, REALLY, believe that all this new "security" is only for our protection and has nothing to do with the multi-million dollar companies who have a tad too much power for their own good.
And no, I'm not paranoid. These things have actually happened, and keep happening. - hugejimmy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2A police state is nothing new I will only say this...In Germany in the 1930s the something had happened people were willing to give up their freedom for extra security. Its wrong and if our western countries were actually democracy's then the people would be free to at least say as they wished, but no if you speak ill about your government the cops show up at your house (which has happened to many people in the U.S for speaking ill about Bush and is administration). Its wrong what the governments are doing remember the patriot act?Remember when congress passed a bill that would allow ONE MAN to do as he sought fit to eliminate ANY possible "threat" to the (get this)Home Land. (like in Nazi Germany the U.S refers to America as the Home Land) You watch CNN or Fox any of those corporate channels and if they arnt yapping about Anna Nichole Smith their talking about threats to Home Land Security.
Missiles above your heads "Protecting You" from the evil terrorists. Its the 1950s again the commies are comin'.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_fire - bobzibub, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Write software today.
Most of tracking comes not from cctvs but government building databases of who talks to whom. That way if they find someone they don't like, they can quickly round up all their aquaintences. So your next secret club meeting may be in jail. ; )
I think the best way would to design a general encapsulating protocol that not only encrypts but obfuscates who talks to whom. - lordmetroid, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Obviously it is your and others like yours ignorrance to history that is the problem. Not tin-foil people!
- tempusrob, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Someone needs to set up a .torrent ... the main website is as good as dead, archive.org's download is crawling, and I couldn't even get the YouTube version to load reasonably well.
Anyone? I'll gladly help seed once I've got it... - kronix, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3This is why I hate being moderate. When the conservatives do their thing the liberals come back with equal but opposite reaction of stupidity. Why can't anyone in this country see everything in a way other than us vs them. That's the major problem with American politics today.
Liberals, what makes you any better than the conservatives making up lies about Iraq when you make up lies regarding the conservative agenda. Do you really think the Republican party really gives a ***** what porn sites you visit? Give me a break....we need a political party that isn't built on polarizing opinions like the system we have today. - caluca, on 10/12/2007, -1/+31984 is a brilliant book that portrayed a society where all civil liberties had been lost. One could argue that CCTV cameras are just one aspect of the ever more evolving Nanny State and this Video is brilliant as in it encapsulates very simply the fears that some folks out there have regaring privacy and loss of freedom.
- jellygraph, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2While it was a good idea, I don't think this video really addresses the main problem with a big-brother police state society... no one gives a ***** about whether your local police know about you getting a blow job
the main issue is that every gradual implementation of technology that further increases a steady gaze on everything we do is that it gives more and more power to the ruling elite to manipulate and control society, stifle freedom of speech and destroy any democratic process that currently exists, when it becomes convenient to them.
this is not a new concept, but in the past, the use of force made it evident to the public, which would then be revolted by it. but with a big-brother society, everything can be calculated to a better degree such that we won't know when we are being conned. -
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