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- RomeozGod, on 10/10/2007, -30/+207This is ***** stupid. A couple individuals in the entire company make edits then the next thing you hear AMERICAN AIRLINES TRYING TO ALTER THEIR HISTORY THROUGH WIKIPEDIA HURR HURR. Its a big corporate move HURR HURR. The media is taking the same approach atm, I saw a simular story concerning the australian government this morning. People who are ignorant of technology would look at that report and get the completely wrong idea.
- vonskippy, on 10/10/2007, -17/+118You people are either ***** morons or hypocrites.
If the RIAA nails someone for Music Piracy - you're all over the fact that IP does NOT equal ID.
But if the story suits your warped sense of entertainment or entitlement then "***** ya, if it came from the IP that WHOIS say belongs to AA, then it MUST be a big ***** corporate deal or disgruntled employee".
How about picking one concept and STICKING TO IT. - atdigg, on 10/18/2007, -10/+101or evil people working at normal corporations....
- Anth, on 10/10/2007, -6/+81Someone at AA edited Wikipedia. Not necessarily AA the corporate entity on official business.
- skinrock, on 10/18/2007, -15/+85Where the hell does it say AA edited this? Check out another edit that IP made: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Friday_the_13th&diff=prev&oldid=144440220
AA is editing the Friday the 13th entry? - ninti, on 10/18/2007, -3/+69Or just plain stupid people everywhere.
- pinionblue, on 10/10/2007, -7/+72Um....this is common knowledge actually. Google it. Neither flight was actually scheduled for the day. Its not a conspiracy theory. Both actual airplanes (tagged by their license number) Show up as decommissioned and not destroyed on a national flight database list. Similar crashed flights show up as "Destroyed" on said list. If i find the site again ill link it.
- 12Iceman, on 10/10/2007, -5/+61Am I the only one to say, Huh?
- SenatorPenguin, on 10/10/2007, -18/+67That's my problem with this whole Wiki edit tracker business. We're allowed to tell the RIAA to ***** off, an IP address doesn't count for anything, but we turn around and accuse companies of conspiracy because we linked the IP address to one they registered. Granted, that IP never changes from AA to someone else, but maybe their neighbor stole AA's unprotected wifi. Maybe AA is a 45-year-old mom who doesn't even know how to work the computer.
- bagel, on 10/10/2007, -7/+51I imagine that AA offers internet on their flights as well as the option to connect wirelessly at the terminal. Perhaps it is coming from that rather than a corporate conspiracy?
- GodsHand, on 10/10/2007, -7/+51That's an odd edit. It doesn't even make sense.
- psykiv, on 10/18/2007, -21/+63Yup, its American Airlines...
From ARIN
OrgName: American Airlines Incorporated
OrgID: AMERIC-112
Address: P.O.Box 619616
Address: MD 5308
City: DFW Airport
StateProv: TX
PostalCode: 75261
Country: US
NetRange: 144.9.0.0 - 144.9.255.255
CIDR: 144.9.0.0/16
NetName: AANET
NetHandle: NET-144-9-0-0-1
Parent: NET-144-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Assignment
NameServer: DNS-P1.SABRE.COM
NameServer: DNS-P2.SABRE.COM
NameServer: DNS-P3.SABRE.COM
NameServer: DNS-P4.SABRE.COM
Comment:
RegDate: 1990-10-31
Updated: 2002-06-27
RTechHandle: OG60-ARIN
RTechName: Gelbrich, Orf
RTechPhone: +1-817-931-3145
RTechEmail: orf.gelbrich@aa.com
OrgTechHandle: ZW72-ARIN
OrgTechName: WARIS, ZISHAN
OrgTechPhone: +1-817-967-1242
OrgTechEmail: zishan.waris@aa.com - eliteblast, on 10/10/2007, -7/+47How do we know this was american airline employee's and not just someone who was using an american airlines ip address? Does american arlines offer WIfi in any of it's airports?
An ip address does not prove guilt. - TheColonel, on 10/10/2007, -1/+31Unless you're being sued by the RIAA...
- photomikey, on 10/10/2007, -8/+37American Airlines did not edit this entry. American Airlines is a company with tens of thousands of employees.
Some asshat on his lunchbreak edited this entry. And probably others. Just because an idiot works for a company does not turn him into that company. - suxmonkey, on 10/10/2007, -45/+74Another awesomely stupid and twisted move caught on Wiki - you gotta love evil corporations!
- mcraigw, on 10/10/2007, -4/+26This means that the IP address used is one in American Airline's range. It doesn't mean that AA sanctioned the change, or really had anything to do with it.
I make changes to Wikipedia articles, I've done so from my PC at work, and I've even made changes to the article about the company for which I work. I wouldn't say that my company has changed their Wikipedia entry though. In fact, I haven't told anyone at my corporation that I have done this, so I don't have "corporate" permission to represent them, but the IP address used is in the company's range. - mozzep, on 10/10/2007, -4/+25This doesn't mean anything. "America Airlines" can't edit anything, it's just the name of an organization. An "American Airlines" employee can edit something. Even someone that's not affiliated with American Airlines can edit something if they're on the IP range. This does not indicate that some evil conglomerate is trying to change history by editing an encyclopedia.
- mtrip, on 10/10/2007, -2/+23I've made edits to wikipedia from official Navy computers, mostly to Halo articles.
- mcraigw, on 10/10/2007, -2/+20Oh noes! The Navy is changing Halo articles! There has to be some evil intent there!!! Quick, submit this to Digg!
- Puppetfunk, on 10/10/2007, -2/+19Here's a Tip: Don't die. And if you are going to die, attack the hijacker. Remember, Go for the Jugular.
- TunaFishGangsta, on 10/10/2007, -2/+19That is absolutely the best date/destination combo for flying. You'll be all alone. They may even upgrade you to first class. Plus you can be sure that every person of arab descent will be getting their anal cavities rooted while you're plane is taking off.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -6/+22Contrary to the title of this ridiculous news posting, it seems this change would constitute a positive corporate contribution to a wikipedia page...for once. It's a verifiable ***** fact, for christ's sake. They even posted a god-damn reference to official GOVERNMENT DOCUMENTATION that supports the assertion.
Now, whether this is actually the case is hard to say. Either the govt page is jacked up or something very strange is going on... Either way, the wikipedia modification is just a restatement of official information found elsewhere on the web. Surely, someone at AA knows the real answer, but it probably wasn't the person that made the wikipedia modification. - DDRSkata, on 10/10/2007, -17/+33I'm going to get buried for this, but if the flights weren't scheduled, and proof directly from a US government website reflects that information, doesn't that sort of lend credence to the Truth movement?
- antdude, on 10/10/2007, -1/+17Did Oceanic Airline do the same for flight 815? :P
- roleary, on 10/10/2007, -4/+19sounds to me more like a conspiracy theory entry. "the flights never actually took off" = "the government faked those two flights and flew the planes into the buildings themselves"
- rockforever, on 10/18/2007, -12/+27Uh... isn't it, by definition conspiracy? A group of people changing the record books? Obviously trying to change public opinion.
- Ghoulunatic, on 10/10/2007, -1/+15Also be careful about snakes
- scb0825, on 10/10/2007, -12/+25Uhmm... the WHOIS record for that IP address does in fact show American Airlines.
http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/whois.ch?ip=144.9.8.21&email=on
Using 1 day old cached answer (or, you can get fresh results).
Displaying E-mail address (use sparingly -- this will make it more likely that you will trigger our rate limiting system).
OrgName: American Airlines Incorporated
OrgID: AMERIC-112
Address: P.O.Box 619616
Address: MD 5308
City: DFW Airport
StateProv: TX
PostalCode: 75261
Country: US
NetRange: 144.9.0.0 - 144.9.255.255
CIDR: 144.9.0.0/16
NetName: AANET
NetHandle: NET-144-9-0-0-1
Parent: NET-144-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Assignment
NameServer: DNS-P1.SABRE.COM
NameServer: DNS-P2.SABRE.COM
NameServer: DNS-P3.SABRE.COM
NameServer: DNS-P4.SABRE.COM
Comment:
RegDate: 1990-10-31
Updated: 2002-06-27
RTechHandle: OG60-ARIN
RTechName: Gelbrich, Orf
RTechPhone: +1-817-931-3145
RTechEmail: orf.gelbrich@aa.com
OrgTechHandle: ZW72-ARIN
OrgTechName: WARIS, ZISHAN
OrgTechPhone: +1-817-967-1242
OrgTechEmail: zishan.waris@aa.com
# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2007-08-22 19:10
# Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database. - srg13, on 10/18/2007, -7/+19"Where the hell does it say AA edited this?"
The IP is registered to 'American Airlines Incorporated' - http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/whois.ch?ip=144.9.8.21&email=on - JKVM, on 10/10/2007, -4/+16I'm glad I can VPN in to my company's IP range and then post things on Wikipedia, immediately becoming my company's official spokesperson. The power!
- mcraigw, on 10/10/2007, -2/+13No flights were scheduled to land in the twin towers that day.
- mharvey, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11When you search the BTS site for data relating to those flights, a specific disclaimer explaining that those flights specifically aren't included in the _data_ because they were hijacked. The BTS is there to collect statistics on things like flight times and what not. They don't have them in the data because they are irrelevant.
For example, if you were using sensors to record the average vehicle weight on a stretch of freeway, you probably would discard data collected from, say, any vehicles that paved over said sensors. (it's a bad example, but you get my point.) - geminitojanus, on 10/10/2007, -2/+13"and I've even made changes to the article about the company for which I work."
This is against Wikipedia's policy. If you would have actually read the policy before you did the edit, you would know this. That's what's wrong with this whole situation; it's hard to be encyclopedic about something you work for because you've got an active bias towards or against it. It would be like you phoning up Britannica and making sure some words you think were "bad" about your company weren't in the next edition. - TunaFishGangsta, on 10/10/2007, -2/+12It's not like they denied that the actual flights took place, they are simply pointing out that neither flight was "scheduled" for that day, according to their source. Are diggers really dumb enough to fall for this? 339 diggs say yes.
- jerbaker, on 10/10/2007, -11/+21This, folks, is how we end up with Presidents like George W. Our country is filled with idiots.
1) Why is it assumed that just because an edit came from one IP address owned by American Airlines, it must be corporate. It could've been an IP address from a free wireless connection at an AA gate for one thing.
2) What moron thinks this entry is trying to hide that American Airlines' planes were involved in 9/11 SINCE THE EDIT JUST SAYS THEY WEREN'T SCHEDULED????
It sounds like 9/11 truthers to me. Oh my God. There's a conspiracy afoot because I can't read a flight schedule. - psykiv, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11***** THE RIAA
- TunaFishGangsta, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10Exactly. They were unscheduled flights. No one ever argued whether they flew or not. I think that about half of all Diggers don't understand this.
- Scorpy2643, on 10/10/2007, -2/+12I guess if you used the wifi in the first class lounge for AA at any of thier airports, you would be functioning from thier IP, right?
I'm going to go change the info for gophers from the airport, then AA will be in a global gopher consiracy. - jeff419, on 10/10/2007, -3/+13Thanks, this guy is right.
- inactive, on 10/18/2007, -6/+16Shhhh, that's to obvious and doesn't fit in the whole evil corporation, 9/11 conspiracy, Dick & George dictatorship thing.
- fuzzmeister, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10A random employee editing a Wikipedia entry about their employer has to be one of the weakest 1984 comparisons I have heard in a while.
- JackQuack, on 10/10/2007, -4/+13Yeah, I agree, Huh? If the Bureau of Transportation says this it says this and they just added a useless fact that the webpage states. I don't think they are trying to make people think it wasn't their planes.
- Membrane, on 10/10/2007, -4/+13Maybe it was a ZIONIST JEW that made the changes!! Maybe... maybe??
- TunaFishGangsta, on 10/10/2007, -2/+11I'm glad there is at least one other person on Digg who understands the difference between Scheduled flights and Unscheduled flights.
- dgp1, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Dugg up for nonchalantly saying "I prefer Cross pens for this purpose" like you kill people with pens every day. What are you, Jason Bourne? Awesome.
- ttllsr, on 10/10/2007, -3/+10Read the edits from that IP, and you will begin to see a guy who:
Works for American Airlines;
Likes religion & penises, but not televangelists;
Has poor taste in music;
Probably learned to fly in the Marines (or wishes he did);
Was probably a Delta Upsilon from Arkansas;
and finally....
Is probably Scott Stewart from Keller, TX. - mharvey, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8Hey, if going to war with Iran would get people to start spelling the word 'you' correctly, I'd be all for it.
- TunaFishGangsta, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8They flew. They weren't scheduled to fly, but they flew. They are also known as "unscheduled flights". Look it up.
- bitcloud, on 10/10/2007, -4/+11decent people without any accountability...
thats the disease of the corporate entity... it gives incentive (financial) but no need for accountability... in doing this it allows for good people to inadvertently act in a morally reprehensible manner... -
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