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- ricodued, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7As much as I love open-source tools, nothing, repeat, NOTHING beats Visual Studio 2005. It's an excellent software suite and worth every dollar, no matter which level you buy (even the Express versions are great).
/loves his VS2005 - jrizzo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Ya, the html handling on 2003 was indescribably bad.
- Eliseo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Yeah ricodued, but did you love VS 2003? It was horrible!
I tried 2005 and finally I can give it a thumbs up! - adizzy615, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2This is cool if you can't afford VS 2003 or 2005. VS 2005 Express does not support web development.
Oh really, I could have sworn I saw something about visual web developer express at http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/vwd/default.aspx - Beanis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2thrall:
>> This is awesome. I love that I can finally have a free C# compiler.
The .Net framework comes with a free C# compiler (along with compilers for all other .Net based languages). - MetalliMyers, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This is cool if you can't afford VS 2003 or 2005. VS 2005 Express does not support web development.
- joelito, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1This is probably old but you could get visual web developer express.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1if you look at the comparisson sheet on there web site you will see that it does some things express does not and some things express does that this does not but in the end this is just a temporary thing until i can find a place that will give me a student discount for vs2005pro
http://community.sharpdevelop.net/blogs/mattward/articles/VisualStudioExpressComparison.aspx - AlmostEvil, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"As much as I love open-source tools, nothing, repeat, NOTHING beats Visual Studio 2005. It's an excellent software suite and worth every dollar, no matter which level you buy (even the Express versions are great).
/loves his VS2005"
Sharpdevelop makes no pretensions to be better than VS 2005 (Pro etc).
However you have to take into consideration that it's a damn fine IDE that you can create programs in VB.NET, C# and C++. (req. MS Visual C++ Toolkit 2003)
In a lot of ways it's a lot better than Visual Studio 2005 Express Editions. Sure, it's no Professional Edition but it easilly equals if not surpasses the Express Editions. - jrizzo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I agree. Some people complain that VS creates developers that cannot program outside VS itself. I say VS creates more productive programmers.
- tarun, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I've been aware of this program for a while--it seems pretty nice. Even with programs like these you have idiots saying Microsoft ties you into Visual Studio.
Not that there's anything bad with Visual Studio--I depend on it for my living. I use the full VS 2003 version at work and it's worth every penny. - MoeB, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"I've been using SharpDevelop for a couple of years now...it is great! And you cannot beat the value -- FREE! Let's see M$ beat that."
ahem
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/ - S!L3N7, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Your A God. I Was in desperate search for something to target .Net Framework 1.0 as current versions of Windows XP don't have 2.0. Thanks :)
- Beanlover, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I've used this in the past...good stuff back then and I'm sure it's even better now.
It was (and probably still is) written in C# so I would think it could run in Linux under Mono. Never tried it myself. - atilio12, on 09/17/2009, -0/+1Open-mind visual abilities alternative in http://ehypnotictrance.com .
- jmacdonagh, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"Uh, nice effort I suppose, but only for C-pound. Therefore LAME.
Don't support Microsoft's Sony-like attempt to subvert standards. If you want a Java-like language, use Java."
Uh, first its C-Sharp, not C-Pound. Second, the language is more open than Java (hense the reason the Mono team can legally do what they are doing). Third, I'm sure any developer who's used both .NET and Java will agree .NET is much better than Java. - Fantt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Does the new SharpDevelop have breakpoints and debugging support? That's what killed it as a useful IDE for me in the past (when I can install a version of VS Studio for free).
- Matt2k, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0It's a very nice tool, but *most* Windows based developers are better served by the Express editions of visual studio 2005.
Still, both are really fantastic tools and I really enjoy working with both tools. It is amazing what these guys have developed and released for free! - SpookyET, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I use it for BOO ( http://boo.codehaus.org ). It does not run on Linux since Mono does not have a complete Windows Forms implementation.
- Stonekeeper, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0http://www.monodevelop.com/
- nano, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0It's buggy as hell, though. I've installed it a few months back, it crashes when you try to do pretty much anything.
- flappysocks, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I have tried the stable version of SharpDevelop, and apart from the lack of a debugger, I was very impressed. Version 2 adds in the debugger, and is now IMO is a very worthy contender for VS. Sure, VS has more bells 'n whistles, but most people never use them. Future releases will (better) support for Mono & GTK#, which is a must for cross-platform development.
- sonofalink, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Visual Studio 2005 will be worth using once they fix all the bugs. We couldn't switch from VS 2003 to 2005 at work because the smart device development is abysmal.
- blincoln, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"I Was in desperate search for something to target .Net Framework 1.0 as current versions of Windows XP don't have 2.0."
VS 2005 lets you compile against the old frameworks if you want, doesn't it? - drawkbox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Coolest feature of #develop is th C#.VB.NET code converter. It has problems with index accessors from VB.NET to C# but only does a file at a time. I dug into the source and made a service that will convert entire directory trees of code and it is killer. If you simply want to know how to code C# excellently and build your own IDE for anything, check the source. Well done and when its RC it will be neck and neck with VS.NET 2005 since it has a debugger. If your a coder, any problem you encounter, write it into the source no waiting for service packs. Its much faster in terms of just getting things done and has a great way to convert projects/solutions from VS to combines in #develop. These guys are awesome. VS.NET 2005 will still rule the corporate lanscape but #develop is great for personal and conctracting where you can't shell out for VS.NET team or architect that has all the tools needed. Way better than express, and pretty soon equal in efficiency and capability to VS.NET. It may even influence MS to put in MONO support and help that effort. It helps their means anyways. I would love a try cross platform enterprise capable framework. MS help take Linux enterprise by helping MONO (if you dont' already).
- concept03, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0> VS 2005 lets you compile against the old frameworks if you want, doesn't it?
No, Visual Studio 2005 only allows you to compile against the .NET 2.0 Framework. - tarun, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I'm really proud of Microsoft for releasing the Express versions. You get a lot of functionality for free. MS knows how to keep developers happy. It's the core of their platform strategy.
- NidStyles, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Is it ported to OS X?
- runelind, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0beanlover: I didn't think that mono handled winforms, just CLI stuff? This was a while ago though, so maybe they're supported now.
- Cognitive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0This is a great piece of software!!
Still gotta love VS 2005 though :) - Shteef, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Nice, I'll have to install and try this sometime, dugg. :)
Visual Studio 2005 is okay, but it's crashed way too often on me for me to really like.
And why would you want to run sharpdevelop in mono? As stonekeeper said, we have monodevelop, which is a port of sharpdevelop to gnome. (but really looks more like a fork from where I'm standing) - MioTheGreat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0It's impossible to actually beat Visual Studio in terms of anything, It's pretty much perfect. But! I love having a copy of SharpDevelop on a flash drive.
- mikeroySoft, on 10/19/2009, -0/+0beautiful...
thanks for this, and the commenters suggesting monodevelop! - kyrnado, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I'll stick with VS 2003 for now; but it looks promising ;D.
- TheNik, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"As much as I love open-source tools, nothing, repeat, NOTHING beats Visual Studio 2005. It's an excellent software suite and worth every dollar, no matter which level you buy (even the Express versions are great)."
Agreed. Although, I will try this (I don't feel like going to the VS install for my new computer just yet). - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Oh yeah! I'll try that out next week...
- crpietschmann, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"VS 2005 Express does not support web development."
Um... Yes it does. It's called Visual Web Developer Express. - apocxp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I'm with Beanies on this one. .Net comes with a free compiler. Still, this is newsworthy because of the release itself so...
+digg - ahmerhussain, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0What about Visual Basic?
- dfloyd888, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I respect anyone who makes a good IDE for Windows, as .NET has a lot of very cool concepts. I do need to shell out the cash for VS2005 eventually, but its good to have an alternative around.
-dugg - machinelou, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Could this also be used to develop .net applications that run on Windows Mobile devices?
- renatoram, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0It is true that SharpDevelop only runs in windows, but on linux it has been ported to MonoDevelop (a gtk-sharp app). The two do not have exactly the same features, but I hear they are pretty good.
As for the Debugger, Monodevelop has a really good one:
http://www.mono-project.com/Debugger
It even does conditional breakpoints. - pumbiki, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I agree with most of you. It's VERY nice for being free, and its a huge step forward to getting .Net development capabilities to more people. It's about time they incorporated a freakin debugger, though! :)
- jmacdonagh, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0To further my comment above, I meant to say the PLATFORM is more open than Java, since .NET supports a wide array of languages.
- dongiaconia, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0C-Pound? [Sarcasm] Ah, yes, I think I will seriously take into consideration the totally unbiased opinions of someone that must be so well versed in both Java and C# and able to discriminate the differences so eloquently!!![/Sarcasm]
- kinderstod, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0To all the "TEEHEE Buy??? Buy Visual Studio?? HEHE TORRENT" comments: Yes, we real developers pay for our tools. That's why we actually release software.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Sweet. Now maybe Cocoa# support in the future?
http://www.cocoasharp.org/
http://www.mono-project.com/CocoaSharp - CaptSnuffy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0"As much as I love open-source tools, nothing, repeat, NOTHING beats Visual Studio 2005. It's an excellent software suite and worth every dollar, no matter which level you buy"
buy? - Ramon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0When faced with this SharpDevelop tool today i went on to look at the microsoft Visual Express products and they really look good, being free and all!
I am still working in VS2003, but not for long now! - kozmo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0I've been using SharpDevelop for a couple of years now...it is great! And you cannot beat the value -- FREE! Let's see M$ beat that.
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