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- munkt0n, on 10/12/2007, -1/+93I write my code in binary directly to ram using magnets.
- aptanapaul, on 10/12/2007, -1/+81We're working on adding some PHP support! We'd love to hear exactly what you'd like to see with regards to PHP. Come on over to our forums at http://www.aptana.com/forums/ or submit to our bug tracker at http://www.aptana.com/trac/ and let us know what you want to see.
Thanks for the digg! - aoe2bug, on 10/12/2007, -0/+76In other news today, a serial alternative is on the loose in New York.
- spanner, on 10/12/2007, -1/+44Looks good, pity there is no php support :)
But heck its free! - estvir, on 10/12/2007, -14/+48Can Digg implement some sort of script which changes 'killer' to 'alternative' or ban the user ?
Anyway, dugg because it looks good [and useful]. - jcblitz, on 10/12/2007, -3/+37complete with a web 2.0 logo, sweet.
- hpolloni, on 10/12/2007, -2/+31woops. I found it http://www.aptana.com/screenshots.html
:P - quine, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19Just my opinion, but anyone that thinks of an IDE as a fancy 'notepad' isn't using their IDE correctly.
- DoubtingThomas, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19@spanner:
Just add the PHP Eclipse plugin, http://www.phpeclipse.de/. Voila, PHP support. I don't use Aptana, but I do run Eclipse 3.2 with PHP Eclipse on my Dapper install. Honestly, it is one the fastest most responsive apps on my Desktop.
And if anyone does install this app or Eclipse on Ubuntu, make sure you have your java set up correctly to use Sun's 5.0 (1.5) JRE. Here is a link to a HOW-TO: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183239. Reason is that the GNU JRE (which is the default) is pretty much unusable due to its horrible performance. - Tialys, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16I like dreamweaver, however I can't afford a newer version, so hopefully this will help.
Oh, and bring on the PHP support! - pondster, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15I may be a lone voice here but there is nothing wrong with dreamweaver, for all of you saying "dreamweaver sucks" - it gets the job done and extremly fast. If you work in a highly productive environment, dreamweaver is essential. Now I can code by hand, and I used to say notepad all the way, but working in an office and you need to produce quality content in vast amounts - you NEED the edge of dreamweaver. I will work on anywhere from 5 to 10 sites a day and without dreamweaver, im cooked.
- sirfergy, on 10/31/2007, -6/+20Chewie67, I think you should upgrade your 486. Java runs perfectly fine on modern hardware.
- LuxFX, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14"Just my opinion, but anyone that thinks of an IDE as a fancy 'notepad' isn't using their IDE correctly."
I second that -- and I used to be the guy that used Notepad over Dreamweaver. But I finally sat down and really started using the tools available in Dreamweaver and realized that I was a lot more productive with it. Sure, Notepad (in conjuction with another free tool or two) could do just about anything that Dreamweaver could do, but I'm a freelancer and time is money. If I'm more productive with one IDE over another, then that's the IDE for me. - orbstra, on 10/12/2007, -7/+18wow how can you have an IDE withought php that is meant for web-design - everything is in PHP now-adays. Don't get me wrong, I have programmed in ASP and ASP.net for more legit corporate type things but PHP is really the front in all dynamic web codes.
and it dosen't even have ASP either! - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12There need to be more Editors like this. At the moment it seems to the old browser scene , just because dreamweaver has the largest market share they seem to think they don't have to develop it much, it hasn't really changed much in mx was brought out.
We need a editor to do what firefox did and start the ball rolling on editor development again. - mv36, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12This is nothing but the Java IDE Eclipse made to be a IDE for editing HTML, CSS, JS etc.
Pretty good features I must add especially as the code completion feature shows which code is compatible on which platforms. - bluesaze, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10PHP support Coming Soon its there On the Tracker.........
- Scottish, on 10/31/2007, -4/+13Another PopularThing Killer. Yay.
Aside from the fact that it's yesterday's phrase, it's inaccurate. Dreamweaver is focused on WYSIWYG editing, not coding. This app appears to be merely a code editor. So if it's an anything killer, it should be a code editor killer.
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(Incidentally, though it's not very popular among the hardcore coding community, I love using Dreamweaver to write code. Its site management system is superb.) - bluephoenix, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11Dreamweaver is pretty far from dead, a lot of design jobs require that you have extensive knowledge of the software still to this day. I think it is a great tool personally and it still has a huge developer base as far as extensions go. Studio 8 is by far the easiest and best solution for WYSIWYG web design today.
- weirdone, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10I was about to say that. Dreamweaver is mostly a WYSIWYG at the core of it. But this doesn't seem to be a wysiwyg at all. It would be more of a notepad killer if anything I suppose.
- Scottish, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12Dreamweaver is hardly dead. Eschew it if you like, but it's still quite popular.
- cbrack, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7it also seems to lack connections to a server; or at least it is not flaunted. i hate dreamweaver, but it lets me connect to the server i'm working on right in a side bar and i can open, work on, and upload the files i need to.
i also doubt that this program has the check in/check out capabilities, as well as templating for contribute. one big reason that i use dreamweaver and templates at work is because there are lots of people in different departments editing their own pages through contribute, and we're able to restrict what they change.
some of these open source programs are great, and this one surely looks awesome, however it is no dreamweaver killer. - anon52, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7I was hired for my latest contract *because* I knew Eclipse and other open source programs. This contract was funded by the US Air Force and I know that many of the government projects are increasingly going to open source - having been burnt by closed and proprietary software.
We used Eclipse for PHP, HTML, Perl, UML2.0, Java Struts (MyEclipseIDE). The Oracle DBs were being migrated to MySQL.
Most of the companies that I have talked with over the last couple of years have been very interested in open source experience, especially when it can be related to enterprise systems (JBoss/Websphere/WebLogic for example.) All that the proprietary solutions provide above the open-source models is: cost, expensive training, opaque implementations, guaranteed senescence (must upgrade to major release). - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8ive spent the last few days in this app. works great on my mac, slow on my pc (both have similar specs...dual core, 1g+ ram, etc). thanks java.
i will say though, code complete for javscript in this is incredible. if/when it does PHP, i'd spend all day in it, too. - a1programmer, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9There's a sourceforge project called phpEclipse, although I've never used it.
- armbar, on 10/12/2007, -5/+12Just tell them that you know Dreamweaver, but you favor Notepad++, or whatever the editor of your choice is. If a manager is dumb enough to require DW, you probably don't want to be working for them anyway.
- acedanger, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8I agree. I keep going back to Dreamweaver because of it's seemlessly builtin FTP ability (although it's pretty slow) and it's site management system.
I've tried just using notepad and an FTP prog (Filezilla) but that method is too slow for rapid coding. Another thing I've grown way too used to is the PHP auto-complete and PHP function help.
I've tried a bunch of different PHP editors out there, both free and non-free (free trial) but I always go back to Dreamweaver in the end. - gmillerd, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8There has to be some php support in eclipse that would work well with this.
- rrbaker, on 01/15/2009, -2/+8Honestly. "Killer" is the new Beta. And Aptana is a killer beta app? Well damn.
In other news I'm waiting for killer articles on a wider variety of topics.
- "Lance Bass come out of closet; is the new Elton John killer"
- "Bird Flu, the new SARS killer."
- "Drug use during the Tour de France, the steroids in baseball scandal killer"
- "Conflict in Lebanon, the War of Terror killer"
Automatic front page, baby. - SeanFL, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Totally agree we need a good open source WYSIWYG web editor. I was hoping NVU would become it, but it's dead over the past year. I keep hearing about (mozilla) composer 2 on the way... is there a free usable editor for those that don't know how to code?
- kingbin, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8I still write my html in vi! Amazing enough, it has support for any language I wish!
- sembetu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6What's all this WYSIWYG stuff I keep hearing about Dreamweaver, all I ever see is code view and my (multiple, I mean MULTIPLE) browsers. The WYSIWYDG in DW is poop. That being said, I am still looking for a lite program to code HTML, CSS, and JavaScript with. And all I am asking for is the ability to ftp with it, code suggest, and autocomplete my tags. Seems simple, but I still haven't found a good FOSS IDE to do all of that, and that is the only thing holding me from using 100% FOSS.
- natmaster, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Php support is now integrated in the 'web tools' package in the Callisto release.
- int19h, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7I write my code by biting holes in punchcards.
- gamerscalling, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I am in the same boat. Using Dreamweaver's code view saves me time with the FTP, code hints, check in and out and more. Though I do dislike auto-complete, but still Dreamweaver is a great tool as long as you don't rely on the design view.
- jeffgtr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I second that. Dreamweaver saves me loads of time. It's really not a bad code editor at all. The css support is much improved in DW8. As far as it just being for noobs, I don't think so. If you need to get some dynamic content on the web fast DW is the ticket, the code it spews isn't perfect but it's clean enough to be usable and you can go into code view, tweak it right click the file do a Put and it's live. I can code up a site in bbedit just fine thank you, but I could also use a regular screwdriver as opposed to a power one. Granted, you wouldn't want to depend on DW's "actions" entirely, or it's layout view. But when time is money, or your understaffed I don't know of a better app out there.
- Vryz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5This isn't really a Dreamweaver alternatiave -- it doesn't try and do WYSIWYG editing of HTML and CSS. It does replace Dreamweaver for people who only use it in the code view though.
Since this is an Eclipse system, you should be able to plug in PHP or RAILS plugins and have a great all-in-one editor! - aptanapaul, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5We're working on PHP support now...
See this reply as well: http://digg.com/programming/Dreamweaver_Killer_Cross_Platform_Open_Source_Javascript_HTML_CSS_IDE#c2486890
Thanks all for the great support and the digg, we'll work very hard to make this YOUR IDE! - aptanapaul, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5This has been fixed, we now have Flash 7 versions of all of our videos.
http://www.aptana.tv - FatMagic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Any mirror of the download?
- aptanapaul, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5We worked hard at removing many of the annoyances of Eclipse and make it a much more friendly editor. For example, we added support for editing files right off of the file system without having to create a project first.
- TheCheeta, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Please... illuminate us as to why Dreamweaver sucks. Oh... and if you are referring to any version that predates, oh, say, DW4, then your opinion, no matter what it may be, is irrelevant. Modern versions of DW are just fine.
- aptanapaul, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4We're adding download versions of the videos now (and/or Flash 7 versions).
- dan90251, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Looks really good, my Dreamweaver doesn't have intellisense for functions i've written myself. Build in proper as you type intellisense for my PHP Classes (including the inherited methods) and i'll switch.
FTP and Subversion support would also be good... oooh and MySQL support... er if you can do all that you've got a Visual Studio competitor.
I like Dreamweaver and its bonus is obviously the GUI editor but I honestly seldom use it. - AudioMove, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Killer application, no more pricy dreamweaver. Very impressed with its feature set and capabilities at a 0.2 release. Looks like the community behind the application has been working hard on the software and should be congradulated. Very good job.
- simquad, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6PHP Designer Pro 2006
Free and Powerful - DoubtingThomas, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Hmm, I have it installed on Dapper and it runs fine. The one thing I did notice when using PHP Eclipse (and not Aptana) is that the libxpcom(s?) that is in place caused my Eclipse to crash as well. You can verify that this is the case by checking the VM crash logs in your home directory. I fixed this by removing the Firefox that is installed by default in Dapper. I think this causes Eclipse to use the libxpcom from Mozilla instead, but that is just a theory. I then installed the Firefox from the official binary and everything works fine. This is also fixed an issue with the Colorpicker extension not working in Firefox. Two for one fix, ya' gotta love it ;)
- aptanapaul, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4We'll be adding ssh/sftp support. :-)
- motang, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Neat piece of software, going to be using this for my senior project.
- beejay54, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Couldn't agree more!
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