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- hmemcpy, on 10/11/2007, -7/+55Sometimes I park in the handicapped spaces
While handicapped people
Make handicapped faces
I'm an *****
(he's an *****, what an *****)
I'm an *****
(he's a real ***** *****) - holzp, on 10/11/2007, -9/+45It has done wonders for Apple.
- betterth, on 10/11/2007, -1/+30QA Will Test It Anyway (QWTIA) -
The belief that writing code right the first time is pointless, as is unit testing, since the in house QA team will test it a hundred different ways and return to you a nicely formatted, cleanly written report on every issue.
I do QA, and I personally see a TON of dev's following this methodology! - betterth, on 10/11/2007, -5/+30It's not mentioning Apple in a positive light you twit.
Your post was:
"Technobabble technobabble who cares history techobabble 1mhz wow apple is good technobabble windows probably sucks technobabble i've never heard of paragraphs or the enter key technobabble im just rambling to show everyone i'm smart technobabble technobabble blah blah long paragraphs with no breaks".
Most likely everyone skimmed it and dugg down, since it wasn't interesting, funny, engaging etc. Digg comments are subject to the 10 second rule.
I suppose the best answer to why we dugg you down is "TL, DR" - samuelcotterall, on 10/11/2007, -0/+20Seat of Pants Development (SPD): To embark on a large scale project with inadequate knowledge and resources, but faith in the fact that Google is with you every step of the way.
- sirlancelot88, on 10/11/2007, -5/+23Perhaps these systems of management warrant nomenclature? Ever wonder why there are so many programming terms, such as recursion, random access, inheritance, polymorphism? It's because they accurately describe the function at hand.
- vuzman, on 10/11/2007, -8/+24You know what I'm gonna do?
I'm gonna get myself a 1967 Cadillac Eldorado convertible
Hot pink, with whale skin hubcaps
And all leather cow interior
And big brown baby seal eyes for head lights (yeah)
And I'm gonna drive in that baby at 115 miles per hour
Gettin' 1 mile per gallon,
Sucking down Quarter Pounder cheeseburgers from McDonalds
In the old fashioned non-biodegradable styrofoam containers
And when I'm done sucking down those greeseball burgers
I'm gonna wipe my mouth with the American flag
And then I'm gonna toss the styrofoam containers right out the side
And there ain't a goddamn thing anybody can do about it
You know why, because we've got the bombs, thats why
2 words, nuclear ***** weapons, OK?
Russia, Germany, Romania, they can have all the democracy they want
They can have a big democracy cakewalk
Right through the middle of Tiananmen Square
and it wont make a lick of difference
Because we've got the bombs, OK?
John Wayne's not dead, he's frozen, and as soon as we find a cure for cancer
We're gonna thaw out the Duke and he's gonna be pretty pissed off
You know why,
Have you ever taken a cold shower, well multiply that by 15 million times
That's how pissed off the Duke's gonna be!
I'm gonna get the Duke, and John Cassavetes,
and Lee Marvin, and Sam Peckinpah, and a case of whiskey,
and drive down to Texas and say.....
(Hey! You know, you really are an *****!)
Why don't you just shut up and sing the song, pal?
I'm an *****
(hes' an *****, what an *****)
I'm an *****
(he's the world's biggest *****)
A-S-S-H-O-L-E
Everybody
A-S-S-H-O-L-E
I'm an ***** and I'm proud of it. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+13Am I the only one who read this title as an acronym for "ADD"?
- theonesteve, on 10/11/2007, -6/+14You're right, Apple has succeeded in converting a customer base into smug ***** snobs.
- Error601, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7The trick is to find an ***** that also knows what he's doing. Having a pussy that knows what he's doing doesn't help much because he just gets ignored.
- fkr3, on 10/11/2007, -4/+11Great article... the comments are worth reading too.
@ sirlancelot88 - it's not about programming terminology, it's about cynical + accurate names for development models. - mre5765, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7*All* these methodologies are being used in my workplace.
- kozmo, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7I think some of those new methodologies are being used at my workplace.
- JQP123, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Too many software developers think "coding" instead of "engineering". They don't give enough consideration to abnormal or unexpected scenarios. They don't ask simple questions that engineers in other professions routinely do, such as "how might this fail" and "what could I do abut it". Engineers are acutely aware of and focused on how the world may interact with their product.
- jeffmccann, on 10/11/2007, -2/+7http://duggmirror.com/programming/*****/
- Sithlrd, on 10/11/2007, -3/+8Why? Because management and the idiots that they listen to are under the mistaken impression that development is a type of Engineering. They think that it is definable and repeatable and, therefore, easy.
Development is FAR more like forging a sword than it is about stamping parts out of sheet metal. I'd say "wake up people" but the people that need to hear this are too stupid to use The Tubes, let alone use Digg. - loquax, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6Actually stuff like this article has been a mainstay of real software engineering. It is frequently called anti-patterning. The theory is that you learn what to do by learning what not to do. The real problem is that physical types of engineering (mechanical, structural, etc) have thousands of years of history and an uncountable number of mistakes to warn people off from doing stupid things (and yes even in physical types of engineering stupid things still happen). Traditional engineering also has thousands of "rules of thumb" to go by. Software, however, has yet to find its fingers, and its thumb is in a very dark and uncomfortable place. Give Software Development/Software Engineering a century or two and then we'll have a better track record. Right now, we are just building mud huts and hoping it doens't rain.
- SweetsGreen, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5I would bet this is the most common method used in software development.
- phantom_mullet, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4@spuy767
Yeah, I have a response: uhhhhhh, what? - hiPpymIck, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4..maybe use "keyword" + "devlopment" instead..
***** (driven) dev
(hot) potato dev
(learned) helpless(ness) dev
(get me) pro(moted) dev
(cover your) ass dev
and there must be other ways - sintaxi, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Their site going to ***** is a reflection of poor leadership in my opinion.
- Genady, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3@betterth
What is this mythical 'QA' of which you speak? Surely you're talking about the end users. If only the huddled masses were graced with the good fortune to have QA. - landofconfusion, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3@mercprog re: "If a software developer doesn't write a proper function the only people that get mad are the other developers who now have to support the application."
Wrong. A few high profile failures...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ariane_5_Flight_501
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIM-104_Patriot#Failure_at_Dhahran
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Therac-25
Software development can be every bit as visible as any other type of engineering. Think of all the software that runs air traffic control, bank systems, defense systems, power plants, etc. etc. - GMorgan, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4The one true development paradigm. All that other stuff is just copying somebody else's work, this way you are truly creative :).
- clyde2801, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4He was referring to Jobs being a flaming ***** to the people who work for him.
- TenebrousX, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3No, it's a dennis leary song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WiV2fyvRbs - jeezus, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2loquax:
I think this is one of the best comments I've ever seen on Digg. Well done, and thank you. - InferiorWang, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2where tf do you get the idea that it's sung to Mad World? It's a Dennis Leary song.
edit: beat to it - mrsims82, on 10/11/2007, -4/+6Ahhhhhh no more acyronyms i beg you!!!!
- GMorgan, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2I think trying to say that is too much and we should replace it with an acronym XPC. The final goal of the world is to congeal all terms into acronyms with the one final uber acronym which will simply be A.
- soogy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1PHP is a recursive acronym.
- grinndaddy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Best thing I've read all day. Okay, so it's only 11am, but it'll probably last a while.
Has anyone read any of Scott Berkun's books? - hiPpymIck, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2dotBoom is about this - for web design
- po43292, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I swear my old boss used to make up TLA's (three letter acronyms) all damn day!
- circusugly, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Good post by Scott Berkun. I was a developer for 20 years and saw GMPM and CDD happen all the time.
Sometimes you needed wings to stay above all of the *****. - garageillusion, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Speaking of CSS... That page is lacking. Not surprisingly though, if it was built by hardcore programmer types.
"Leave that design stuff up to those film-school-glasses wearin', macbook totin' hooligans. I disabled style sheets years ago. #FFF #CCC #999 #666 #333 #000... Thats all I needs" - fkr3, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Everyone is born. Leaders are trained.
- DivisibleByZero, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Site slowing down so I'll post my own here instead:
Trapped By Tool Development - No, that's not the best way to approach things, but those are the limitations of "The Tool". The Tool must never be redesigned, only hacked upon. - TenebrousX, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1It's actually impossible to say what PHP stands for without using the acronym
- yazheirx, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Remember there is a difference between being an a$$hole and being a leader. Projects can not be run by comity nor can they be run by a dictator. They need to be run by someone that can listen to suggestions (weeding out the good from the bad), make a decision and stick to it(unless said decision is proven to be incorrect).
- anarchytv, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1The problem with every computer job posting website, and big companies such as Google and Microsoft, is they all require college degrees, and in some cases, Master's Degrees. As far as I know, that is BS... Einstein flunked out of college, and a good chunk of all the hacking that went on that propelled the PC revolution was done by total academic losers and American rebels. These companies have basically forgotten their roots and are shooting themselves in the foot, and eventually will create rot from within.
A lot of bashing has gone on of duck tape programmers and coders, who can sling code together and get something working, even though its not perfect or pretty... I'm not talking about Indian programmers that ***** and say they know how to do something and can do the job but have no clue what they are doing... I'm talking about American coders that cut their teeth on the 8 bits and knew how to program their first 'box' before they got it home from Sears. I myself am one of those code slingers... you know, there is a hell of a lot to be said for that. I can make something exist, and can hack my way when you are coding into the unknown and working from scratch... most coders being cranked out of these schools couldn't dream up something innovative, and then spend several months on their own, without funding, in passionate hacking marathons, whipping and tweaking their vision for a project up all night after night, to save their lives.
Everything I learned about computers, networking, building, coding, and development, I taught myself. Without a college. And without a degree. Why? Because I have the passion.
The passion of the amateur hacker. An amateur hacker will beat a professional hacker any day of the week. Amateur derives from the latin root "amo", to love... and that's what an amateur does... he hacks because he loves it. Professionals can slander us all they want... I see it all across the net... you have to code this way, or comment this way, and so on and so forth... thats all good when you've already mastered something, then you want to tell people the right way and best way to do things... but when you're out on the ice, when you're learning something new, to think like that is *****. Your code is going to be messy as hell, because you are cutting and pasting examples, you are testing and learning and hacking around idiocincracies, you're like a new baby learning language for the first time. You're knee deep in the zone, outside of your box of the familiar. And that's when the gears in your head are spinning and weaving their most complex dances.
So why hire a sloppy duck tape programmer? Because in todays world, technologies go obsolete overnight, and you are always out of your zone. You're always tying this with that with something you've never heard of before today, and you've got hundreds of web windows open about this type of code or that. The sloppy duck tape programmer types are the one's that whipped up the improvised hack that brought the Apollo 13 mission home safely. Sloppy programmers without lives, without college degrees, are who you want on your team. Cause we rock. We are stone cold hardcore hackers. So all you job boards with your requirements for a college degree, and all you snotty ***** software project managers that want to grill us on this or that during an interview... kiss off. It doesn't matter if I don't know Ruby on Rails or whatever is this months flavor darling keyword language or tool you search for through the resumes... I can pull of the information on it and learn just what I need to know about it to get the job done in a New York second. And use my expensive brain elsewhere than learning stuff that will never be relevant to the project of a language. einstein http://anarchy-tv.com - vipgulf, on 12/17/2008, -0/+0http://www.vip-gulf.com
http://www.vipgulf.com
http://www.ksa-123.com
http://www.ksa-2000.com
http://www.chat-3rb.com
http://www.3rb-chat.com
http://www.vip-kuwait.com
http://www.chat-gulf.com
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http://www.vip-3rb.com - 123zoozle, on 12/17/2007, -0/+0Why hire a programmer? http://www.dassnagar.com/Software/manpower-outsour ...
- triggerfinger, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2For A-hole managemant see: http://digg.com/business_finance/How_Jerks_In_The_Workplace_Operate_How_to_Keep_Them_Out
- jhered, on 11/01/2008, -0/+0o man i'm totally 'blog driven development' LOL :)
- n8glenn, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0Your post was:
"Technobabble technobabble who cares history techobabble 1mh
That was technobabble to you? The guy was simply saying that coding solo produces coherent code, and coding by committee produces bloat, which is a perfectly respectable opinion and not at all technobabble, and some of us actually do care about history a little bit instead of just wanting "10 seconds of witty soundbite" like you seem to prefer. Let me guess, you're not a coder are you? More like a 14 year old who thinks he's cool because he's got a cable modem, right? - benlindelof, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Google Rant: Sure, MSDN and Microsoft Usergroups are the best resources for programming, but what's the harm with Google? You get someone's idea to solve a problem similar to yours (just like MSDN and the newsgroups).
Great example: need the syntax for a bizarre TUNA call? TUNA is the system used for TransUnion's Credit Scoring database. With Google, you can quickly search for things in online or offline documentation. The included 'online doc' functions of the website were not as intuitive, powerful or as fast as Google.
Until another Search Engine has been optimized to the level of Google, I'll probably stick with it. - slapthemonkey, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2Good article and great comments!!!
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