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Price Cut Fails to Push Xbox 360 Past PS3

reghardware.co.uk — Microsoft this week claimed to have more doubled the Xbox 360 ’s European sales thanks to its recent price cut, but that still hasn’t been sufficient to put it ahead of the PlayStation 3 or the Wii. However, a Sony spokesman today hit back at the company's arch rival, telling Register Hardware that the PS3 has outsold the Microsoft console. . .

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  • leoy, on 04/19/2008, -59/+33PS3 still the best!! I love it!!
    • richto, on 05/03/2008, -1/+1Best for BluRay maybe, but unfortunately not if you want the most games, the best games or the best graphics.
  • brainboy77, on 04/19/2008, -66/+18the 360 sold more than the PS3 this month. yeah.
    • AwesomeMonster, on 04/19/2008, -9/+13source? Because if thats true this article is just worthless crap and I want it buried. When one item outsells another for months and then the other one BEGINS to gain steam, of course it'll still be behind.
    • Sedako, on 04/19/2008, -11/+55Only in North America. Worldwide, the PS3 continues to outsell the Xbox360.
      • Dylson, on 04/19/2008, -49/+14PS3 sucks though.
        • BattleScars, on 04/19/2008, -9/+24Incorrect
        • WhereAmI, on 04/19/2008, -6/+21And I'm glad you don't have one. Don't need idiots like you on PSN.
          • Dylson, on 04/19/2008, -19/+10Everyone on PSN is an idiot.
          • Flynnz, on 04/19/2008, -5/+12well to be fair there are idiots all over xbox live as well. heh
        • KloroFormd, on 04/19/2008, -7/+19Of the few friends I have with a PS3 (4 of them...) none of them has had a hardware problem.

          Of the friends I have with a 360 (12 of them) all of them has had the RRoD, minus one, who's drive failed.

          Why does the PS3 suck?
          • jabbar, on 04/20/2008, -1/+4that's why i got one of each. i can't buy anything with two of my credit cards, but hell, i can play all the awesomeness of both systems. played COD4 on XBoxLive and then GT 5 Prologue on PSN. its a win win situation
          • BabyWookie, on 04/23/2008, -0/+2Because you are a liar. I don't know any one who had a problem with their 360's.
      • kingfoot, on 04/19/2008, -6/+37its still hard for some people to understand the global market.
      • BabyWookie, on 04/23/2008, -0/+3On which planet is that? LOL. Silly PS3fag.
    • Janv1er, on 04/19/2008, -28/+2"A Sony spokesman today hit back at the company's arch rival, telling Register Hardware that the PS3 has outsold the Microsoft console every week for the last 15 weeks."
      This month lasted 15 weeks?
      • crump199, on 04/19/2008, -3/+3Well it IS a leap year after all.
      • chazuk, on 04/20/2008, -2/+2Where, in the whole of that quote you posted, did they mention months?
        You ***** idiot.
        • Allanon, on 04/20/2008, -1/+1Look at the statement he is replying to.
    • Flynnz, on 04/19/2008, -10/+7uggh who ***** cares. You people act like you have personal stock in these companies or something. The ONLY thing that should matter to you as a console owner is which system is selling the most software in your region. That is the ONLY factor that will determine if your system of choice will have the games you want (seeing how first part games are going to be made no matter what). Everything else is pure fanboy BS.
      • liquidhalcyon, on 04/19/2008, -3/+4I do own stock in Microsoft...
        • Flynnz, on 04/19/2008, -2/+3well then I can understand if you give a *****....buit I some how doubt most of these other people have actual stock in these companies.
  • humphreys23, on 04/19/2008, -25/+58I always thought that it was the PS3 that was struggling
    • VinnieDaMac, on 04/19/2008, -7/+35It was until Blu-ray started winning the format war. If you want a Blu-ray player, you must as well get a PS3.
      • peestandingup, on 04/19/2008, -22/+1Or not.
        • Ajajadude, on 04/19/2008, -5/+10Yeah, or you could spend more money on a standalone BR player instead of less money on a PS3.
        • Ashkc88, on 04/20/2008, -2/+3Actually, I was at best buy yesterday and I saw blu-ray players that were cheaper or just as much as the PS3.

          http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp;jsessionid ...

          As you can see there, I can put the player in my PC that can already handle HD cheaper than buying a PS3.
      • thecheatah, on 04/19/2008, -4/+9No, its been like this in Europe for a while. They can actually think for themselves.
        • bmdt2000, on 04/20/2008, -4/+4So I guess people with a 360 can't think for themselves?
          • thecheatah, on 04/21/2008, -2/+3IV been wanting a 360 for a few years now. The reason I dont buy it is because of its crappy quality.

            So NO
        • philhatesyou, on 04/20/2008, -4/+3bmdt: Seeing as to how they all don't mind buying a console with design flaws, that's probably a good assessment of the situation.
      • BrendanSheehan, on 04/19/2008, -6/+12It was well before the Blu-Ray victory. PS3 is killing in Europe and Japan - it's the US that are again behind the curve.
        • Shaflugi, on 04/20/2008, -4/+10That's because the rest of the world cares about something other than FPS games.
          • petebot, on 04/20/2008, -1/+4mass effect, lost odyssey, blue dragon, dead rising, ninja gaiden 2, and eternal sonata would like to have a word with you.
      • BabyWookie, on 04/23/2008, -0/+2LOL. The PS3 is a horrible BR player. The image quality is crap and you can't even control it with any common universal remote. The stand-alone players are much better.
    • cathpah, on 04/19/2008, -21/+12this is europe they're talking about. things are different there (apparently they don't like good games)
      • dsmx, on 04/19/2008, -5/+22Or it could be that Europeans want a console that doesn't come with a guarantee that it will fail.
        • BabyWookie, on 04/23/2008, -0/+2Why would they be buying the PS3 then. It has "utter, complete failure" written all over it.
      • chazuk, on 04/20/2008, -1/+2I take it the Asian market also hates good games?

        YAY FOR AMERICA!
        • BabyWookie, on 04/23/2008, -0/+3They just hate all games that don't let you rape under-aged girls with tentacles. ***** fruits.
    • WinterWolf33, on 04/19/2008, -6/+54People need to understand the PS3 was never struggling. It had sold more in its first year than the 360 sold in its first year. And so far it is on par with the PS2 sales since it was released.

      http://kotaku.com/gaming/howard-stringer/sony-boss ...
      • dsmx, on 04/19/2008, -10/+34That's too much logic and evidence for xbox fanboys to take in.
      • Arkanjal, on 04/19/2008, -17/+6That'd be great logic if the PS3 was competing against the PS2, or if Sony had a time machine to compete with the 360 a year earlier.

        However, in the real world, being third in a 3 man race is struggling.
        • theaceoffire, on 04/19/2008, -3/+9O.o but they are both first AND third.
          The PS2 kicks both the PS3 and 360's ass.
          How is that a struggle? Even the PSP is doing great.
          • chazuk, on 04/20/2008, -0/+2DON'T whatever you do include the PS2 in all of this.
            Arkanjal will cry otherwise.
      • Varz, on 04/20/2008, -3/+1It has been selling quite well all along but you can hardly compare its first year sales data to data from 3 years ago, the market grown a lot since then.
    • orion846, on 04/19/2008, -12/+1because it is
    • NGliam, on 04/19/2008, -6/+12The PS3 isn't struggling, it's selling more than the Xbox360 despite being released over a year later (giving people time to buy a console already - not everyone can afford 2 consoles) and being a lot more expensive.. plus all the negative talk surrounding the PS3 at first by Xbox360 owners :P
      • estvir, on 04/20/2008, -5/+4Or the fact there was a ton of negative things about the PS3, some of which are no longer true (Price, in some regions, for example) and some which still are (No in-game XMB for example).
        • cthellis, on 04/20/2008, -1/+4That's a ton, all right.
          • daborg, on 04/20/2008, -1/+1I weighed it with my DiggScales[TM] and it was more like a quarter pound or so.
      • chazuk, on 04/20/2008, -1/+4There is nothing I'd like more on both of my ps3's than to be able to bring up the XMB mid game.
        I often think to myself that the games are so ***** all I want to see is the XMB going left and right, up and down. Would it make you happy if Sony released XMB - The Game?
    • richto, on 05/03/2008, -0/+1The PS3 is selling about the same numbers or less than the Xbox 360. The sales leads in the few week that the PS3 has been ahead are tiny.

      In other words the Xbox 360 has a solid 10 million console lead and its going to be years before the PS3 makes any impact on that if ever. The only reason that the PS3 is not a total flop is that quite a few people are buying it as a BluRay player only.

      if you dont want a Blu Ray player, you would have to be mad to buy a PS3 when you have an inferior graphics chipset for more money - all that processing power cant overcome inherently flawed hardware. e.g. GTA 4 only running at 640p with 0xAA on the PS3 and running at 720p with 2xAA on the Xbox 360.
  • nickcozy, on 04/19/2008, -65/+9Whoa! this is just a bunch of lies XBOX FTW..
    Long live Microsoft.
    • lartones, on 04/19/2008, -6/+9If by "Long Live Microsoft" you mean turning the xbox360 on and it explodes because of the RROD then, yes, long live microsoft for their poor hardware construction!!! *army of 20,000,000 men raise their glasses*
  • Zlorp, on 04/19/2008, -66/+12if the ps3 didnt have blu-ray it would be garbage. and you all know it.
    • jesperhh, on 04/19/2008, -4/+26yes, but i has, so it isn't garbage.
    • AppleGeorge, on 04/19/2008, -19/+36You're a moron. Not everyone wants a PS3 for Bluray. I for one, along with countless others like the PS3 for I'm going to say MGS4 and GTAIV. I'm pretty positive both of those, mainly MGS4 are going to be huge console sellers, not to mention they don't have as many problems as the 360, and frankly, the 360 has no good games anymore. And don't say it has Halo 3, because we all know that game was overrated.

      Also, Digg, the Thumbs Up button is broken.
      • Zlorp, on 04/19/2008, -28/+7gtaiv is also on the 360, and mgs4 will eventually end up there. (you're a fool if you think otherwise)
        • krische, on 04/19/2008, -9/+32the 360 isn't physically capable of handling MGS4 without ruining the game. There was just a story yesterday saying they are maxing out the PS3 for MGS4.
          • Zlorp, on 04/19/2008, -31/+7the story yesterday was more about how incapable the ps3 is compared to what they hoped for. you're pretty goddamned ignorant if you think the PS3 has something to offer performance wise over the 360.
          • krische, on 04/19/2008, -8/+28The PS3 has the CELL. Which, when used correctly, can run circles around the 360. Look at games like Uncharted and Gran Tursimo. I fail to see any games on the 360 that are the same level performance wise.
          • AppleGeorge, on 04/19/2008, -4/+16You're right about that, as MGS4 has been developed specifically for PS3, with no 360 in mind at the present time, that's why it's optimised for the PS3, and if it came out on 360, it would have to be redeveloped, not just ported.

            Atleast that's what I get out of all the articles saying it's specifically for PS3 and the PS3 hardware is what makes the game.
          • BattleScars, on 04/19/2008, -2/+20How about a minimum of 40 gig storage to play with on ALL console variants and a disc that holds up to 50 gigs, allowing for uncompressed audio and full HD (1080p). MGS4 needs both of this features to work. So, remind me, how's it gonna work on the 360?????
          • stevenwalters, on 04/19/2008, -13/+3/facepalm, perhaps you should take a look at gt5 prologue and pay attention to how much they gimped the environment detail to up the car detail, and while drakes fortune looks good, it was due to art direction. neither games graphics has dick to do with the cell. you obviously have no understanding of what makes a games graphics, or what limits a systems abilities. the cell was NOT made specifically with games in mind, neither was the GPU made for a console. the moment they start trying to do anything impressive with the cell do you know what will happen? the crap memory bandwidth and the GPU will bottleneck it.

            dont believe me? go look up previews of cell factor for the PC, they used the PhysX PPU in the game, and when they turn the physics up, you know what happens? the GPU becomes the bottleneck. the same gpu thats in the ps3 AND it has twice the memory bandwidth.

            the article yesterday that you're trying to use as some sort of evidence to support your claim was actually about how the Cell ended up not being the cpu sony hyped it to be.

            also, games like crysis, which the ps3 could never dream of running in high detail, even with the physics on Very High, still runs fine on any mid-ranged dual-core processor. CPU speed is not an issue with video games, BUT even if a developer wanted to do something extra with the cell, it wouldnt be able to just because the GPU will bottleneck it.

            look at ratchet and clank, tons of stuff going on on screen no? but look how crappy the textures are, thats the kind of tradeoffs that are required to do anything decent with the cell.
          • Tahiri, on 04/19/2008, -6/+19MGS4 will never be on 360, you're a retard if you think otherwise
          • stevenwalters, on 04/19/2008, -17/+2you're a retard for thinking konami is going to skip out on the money they would make from the 360 or that the 360 couldnt handle the game.. mark my words, and im going to book mark this page and rub it in your face for eternity when it does happen.
          • Zlorp, on 04/19/2008, -15/+3hey! i remember you Tahiri, you're the guy who makes himself look like a dumbass everytime the topic of consoles or console hardware comes up
          • AppleGeorge, on 04/19/2008, -3/+17Actually, I thought that was you Zlorp. Since all you've been doing is bitching about the same thing that PS3 sucks over and over and over again. Stop ***** crying because MGS4 isn't coming out to the 360 anytime soon. It's not a big deal, just relax.
          • Zlorp, on 04/19/2008, -12/+3i have a ps3. i dont have a 360, but people need to stop pretending like its some super console with massively untapped capabilities, because it sure the hell isnt.
          • AppleGeorge, on 04/19/2008, -7/+5Nobody is saying that it is. You're just crying like a little ***** bitch for no damn reason. Just shut the ***** up already.
          • Zlorp, on 04/19/2008, -9/+1QQ, looks like you're the one getting butthurt.
        • Claude1971, on 04/19/2008, -9/+19yeah right if MGS4 ended up on the 360 they'd have to have it on like 10 DVD. It'd be like installing MS Office from floppy, (like 30 floppies and that would be a really old version). Go bow down to your shrine to Bill loser
        • stevenwalters, on 04/19/2008, -17/+1lol at you ignorant noobs. neither of you have the slightest understanding of what you're even talking about
        • AppleGeorge, on 04/19/2008, -13/+1I never once said in my entire comment that the 360 would never have MGS4. It wont have it when the game is first released, and the game has been optimised and created specifically for the 360. Stop being a little bitch, and stop ***** trolling. The PS3 is getting MGS4, and eventually, the 360 might get it. It's one of the most anticipated games in years, and if you want to wait to play the game on your 360, then be my guest.
          • Claude1971, on 04/19/2008, -5/+3no it won't bitch
          • AppleGeorge, on 04/19/2008, -7/+1I never said it would bitch. My god you ***** people are annoying. I wish Digg was how it was 2 years ago before it got flooded with ***** jackasses.
          • MillionsLivio, on 04/19/2008, -4/+4Because we look through your flawed arguments we are jackasses?
        • LordoftheFly, on 04/19/2008, -2/+3I didn't realize that Digg users were so childish.
      • MillionsLivio, on 04/19/2008, -8/+17"frankly, the 360 has no good games anymore"
        That's just pure *****; I hate the whole "fanboy wars" as I think everyone has a personal preference and each console has it's highs and lows. However, saying the 360 has no good games is utter biased fanboyism. You used GTA IV as an example, yet it's on the 360, with downloadable content and online multiplayer. I like all the consoles, but when it comes to the gaming library the 360 is far ahead of the rest right now. The PS3 could very well catch up in time, but as of right now that's just not the case.
        • AppleGeorge, on 04/19/2008, -7/+5I said anymore. There were good games, but they've been played. There are a few good games, but I'm looking for something new, as to me most of the games for 360 have gotten boring. I wasn't being a fanboy. I own neither console, I just play them both a lot and have just as much opinion and say in the matter as you do.
          • MillionsLivio, on 04/19/2008, -6/+1New games are constantly coming out, you could use the exact same argument against the PS3 right now. Just because games are released and you play every one of them and get bored of them is not the consoles fault. Your argument is flawed, pure fanboyism.
          • AppleGeorge, on 04/19/2008, -4/+3K. You got me! Man, you totally got me. I'm just a big fanboy who simply thinks right now there are no good games, that makes me a fanboy! Yeah, man you got me.
          • MillionsLivio, on 04/19/2008, -7/+4When you use GTA IV as an example of a good PS3 game and then say that the Xbox 360 has no good games, yeah that's fanboyism buddy.
          • AppleGeorge, on 04/19/2008, -3/+3Actually, I said GTAIV and MGS4 are both good games, and that MGS4 will only be on PS3 at the present time. I did also say that the games that are OUT RIGHT NOW aren't all that fun anymore, meaning there aren't any good games out right now. It's my own ***** opinion, so stop trolling and being a ***** dumbass.
          • PetroSan, on 04/19/2008, -1/+2Why do you all care so god damn much? Jesus Christ it's like you have to go buy what the other guy says is better.
            Well you don't, so go buy whatever the ***** you want.
        • WyttEarp, on 04/19/2008, -4/+2I am a bit of a Sony fanboy, and still I have to say that the 360 is still coming out with good games. I have no intention of buying the system, but I really wanted Lost Oddysey and Mass Effect. I don't think that the 360s library is far ahead of the other consoles though, I think they all have something to offer, and if someone gave me a 360 I'd take it and buy the games I wanted. It's hard to not get heated in these conversations, even when I'm no longer anti-microsoft (I hated the original XBox, but they really made steps to fix a lot of the issues in the 360)
      • VinnieDaMac, on 04/19/2008, -2/+5Not everyone, but some, if not most. Being the cheapest Blu-ray player has it's advantages.
    • itsthebrod, on 04/19/2008, -23/+4And since most consumers are wholly unimpressed with the Blu-Ray/HD-DVD debacle the PS3 remains garbage.
      • AppleGeorge, on 04/19/2008, -6/+16Yet again I say, not everyone is only interested in Bluray. It's a ***** gaming console.
      • krische, on 04/19/2008, -3/+9The reason there were lackluster sales of Blu-ray/HD-DVD is because most people weren't willing to take the risk of buying into one of the formats knowing one of them would be dead in a year.
        • LordoftheFly, on 04/19/2008, -7/+2Digital distribution will nullify the Format War.
          • popfrogs, on 04/19/2008, -2/+8Let us know how that works out for you buddy. In the meantime I'll enjoy DTS-MA audio and 1080p resolution movies that I can actually TAKE WITH ME when I leave the house.
    • NsertNameHere, on 04/19/2008, -9/+4No, it wouldn't be garbage. It would've been cheaper and be out selling the Xbox 360 and maybe just maybe be neck and neck with the Wii from the start.
    • WhereAmI, on 04/19/2008, -2/+7If it didn't have Blu-Ray it would have came out sooner and it would have been cheaper. Thats like saying if the 360 had Blu-Ray then "there would be no reason for a PS3". Because the 360 would have came out later and it would have been more expensive.
      Short: "Woulda"'s are a stupid way to argue something.
    • AvidPreatorian, on 04/21/2008, -1/+1HA first bluray is the issues, not bluray is the only good thing. wow bashing makes a lot of ***** sense. idiots.
  • shyboy2008, on 04/19/2008, -14/+75why is a technology article on digg....is this 2005?
    • uziko, on 04/19/2008, -4/+7Seriously, I've noticed that while i used to make tons of comments per day, now I'm lucky if i make even one, i hate the new algorithm changes.
    • krische, on 04/19/2008, -1/+14Quite the shift from the usual 4chan stuff.
    • WhereAmI, on 04/19/2008, -1/+11It was better then...
  • killbert24, on 04/19/2008, -30/+6PS3 might be doing well now, but it will never catch up to the all-mighty Wii. Also, the 360 still has like double the amount of sold units because the console launched over a year before the PS3. Even though PS3 sells in other countries... its not enough to catch up to the 360, yet.
    • spiralspirit, on 04/19/2008, -6/+181) Wii and PS3 sell to different market segments - those likely to want a WII will not be shopping for a ps3, and vice versa.
      2) given that ps3 is selling more than xbox, the only thing sony has to do to outsell microsoft in total shipped units is wait.
      • treed, on 04/19/2008, -5/+6I have a Wii and a PS3, and everyone I know with a PS3 also has a Wii.
      • senatorpjt, on 04/19/2008, -1/+3Those who want a Wii aren't always looking for a PS3 or 360, but everyone I know with a PS3 or a 360 also has a Wii. I don't know anyone who has both a 360 and a PS3 though. The 360 and PS3 are a lot more similar, so there isn't much reason to have both.
        • B3000, on 04/20/2008, -1/+3I know people who have both a 360 and a PS3, but no Wii. They are smart people who don't like cheap, gimmicky, last-gen hardware featuring 20 year old characters aimed at children.
    • krische, on 04/19/2008, -6/+18Worldwide: 360: 18.24M PS3: 11.79M Sorry, but 12 is not half of 18. Also, don't forget the fact that the PS3 has been outselling the 360 worldwide since christmas.

      Source: vgchartz.com
    • Thousand, on 04/19/2008, -2/+5It may have "like double" the amount sold because it launched early, but I'd like to know how many of those extra consoles are red ringed bricks, thus rendering them ineligible in that count?
  • krische, on 04/19/2008, -16/+82Guess it goes to show that the 360 really only has a strong hold on the US market. The PS3 seems to be beating it everywhere else in the world.
    • TheLD, on 04/19/2008, -9/+12The 360 is also doing well in the UK with 2 million out of a population of 60 million owning a console
    • NGliam, on 04/19/2008, -7/+6Yeah, a lot of my friends own Xbox360s, whereas I can only think of about 10 people who have a PS3. Most of those Xbox360 owners say they're gonna get a ps3 for MGS4, but that's just talk probably.
      • theaceoffire, on 04/19/2008, -2/+3When I get MGS4, I will let you know if its worth it... although I am gonna assume it will rock.
      • daborg, on 04/20/2008, -0/+2Actually, I have the money put away in an account. Just waiting for the bundle to be released...
  • wexmajor, on 04/19/2008, -21/+20Ever hear of market saturation?
    • nickcozy, on 04/19/2008, -25/+5No i never heard of it, right now i'm saturated bcoz of using useless PS3.
      • krische, on 04/19/2008, -2/+10I'm guessing if you don't know how to spell 'because' then you don't know how to turn it on. user error.
    • threepio, on 04/19/2008, -4/+17Sure we've heard of it - but if the market is saturated with 360s at such a low number in Europe it really does point out that not that many people there want it.
    • BattleScars, on 04/19/2008, -8/+2Ever heard of cumulative preference shares. Touché.
    • WinterWolf33, on 04/19/2008, -5/+4Market Saturation has nothing to do with this scenario because...
      1) PS2 has sold over 100 million units and still sells better than the PS3 and 360, and 2) 360 is selling now as good as it ever has, with few exceptions
    • SniperGX1, on 04/19/2008, -2/+5If the current number of 360's saturates the market, then MS is screwed. Look at the number of PS2's out there.
    • mCanada, on 04/19/2008, -4/+6Ever hear of a yellow tailed South African manbearpig?
    • mirunit, on 04/19/2008, -1/+1http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=11467

      Depends on what region.
  • Picaroon, on 04/19/2008, -7/+49I don't understand fanboys on either side. I like the Xbox 360, but that doesn't mean I dislike the PS3. I want to see both do well. As an Xbox 360 fan, you should be glad that the PS3 is doing well because it drives Microsoft to do better and cut prices.

    If I needed Blu-Ray, I'd go straight for a PS3.
    • TheGreatBelow, on 04/19/2008, -21/+10MGS4 > *.x360
    • forcedfx, on 04/19/2008, -2/+17I dugg your comment because you're right about wanting to see both consoles survive. It keeps both MS and Sony innovating to try and gain greater market share. I own a PS3 and don't want to start paying for PSN. That was a big part of my decision to get the PS3 over the 360.
    • jfowler27, on 04/19/2008, -3/+8This is exactly the point I've been trying to get across to people. I own a 360 because at the time I bought it I thought it was the strongest console and would remain strong throughout this generation of consoles. I still think the 360 is the stronger of the two, but if people want PS3s all the more power to them. Competition is good and helps everyone out.
    • diblasio, on 04/19/2008, -8/+4I think I can explain it to you. You see there is this mysterious creature called a "virgin"...
    • nunofgs, on 04/20/2008, -1/+6I also would like to see both consoles thrive, but unfortunately, that won't be the case imho. If history repeats itself, in about 2/3 years the PS3 will be so far ahead of the xbox360 that Microsoft will be forced to dump it (like the original xbox) and rush out to release the xbox 720 a full year ahead of the PS4. The circle of life is complete.

      I really hope this doesn't happen. I love my Xbox 360.
      • theblackgecko, on 04/20/2008, -0/+2The PS2 was six years old when the PS3 was released, and is still going steady seven and a half years later, whereas Microsoft released the 360 when the four year old Xbox was strong, and strangled it within a year.

        My prediction is that Microsoft will release their next console in 2009 or 2010 (just cannot kill those rumors), right about the time the PS3 comes into vogue.
    • BabyWookie, on 04/23/2008, -0/+2You are a traitor. You disgust me. Sony is an awful company and PS3 deserves to burn!
  • Supernova36, on 04/19/2008, -4/+10It's not really too hard to believe, and really Microsoft shouldn't be expecting to frequently outsell the PS3, but if it can keep pace and build on the impressive numbers they already have in homes, then they'll be fine in the long run.
  • exomni, on 04/19/2008, -43/+13Buried as innacurate. 360 is still comfortably in the lead in Europe, America, and almost all other locations besides Japan.

    http://i31.tinypic.com/mbi9gw.png

    And I highly doubt the sales after a RECENT price matched all the collective sales of 2 previous years. This is so poorly worded and innacurate it's completely incomprehensible.
    • treed, on 04/19/2008, -5/+23The article isn't about sales since launch. Also, keep in mind that the 360 launched a year prior to the PS3, so it naturally has higher total numbers anyway.
      • exomni, on 04/20/2008, -4/+1Well then fix the description instead of spewing ***** that explicitly states the Xbox 360 has failed to "push past" the PS3.

        The PS3 may be beating the 360 in weekly sales at the moment, but even with the PS3 hasn't caught up to the 360's total sales, let alone be ahead of the 360 in such a way that would necessitate the 360 "pushing past" it.
    • shinythingy, on 04/19/2008, -7/+23Nobody is saying the PS3 has surpassed the 360 in total sales. What is being said is that the PS3 overtook the 360 in monthly sales a while back and is still doing so.
    • i4mt3hwin, on 04/19/2008, -12/+5They are talking about weekly sales, not sales since launch.

      Except it's wrong anyway, in March 360 beat PS3 for the first time in 2 months. http://www.dailytech.com/Xbox+360+Ahead+of+PS3+in+ ...
    • NathanCH, on 04/19/2008, -7/+3I gave you a -1 because your source is completely UNRELIABLE.
      • uziko, on 04/19/2008, -6/+6it's from vgcharts idiot, which is reliable
        • Barnolde, on 04/19/2008, -6/+5No, it's not. vgchartz just makes up numbers, they don't have any official sources.
        • richto, on 05/03/2008, -0/+1Of course they dont 'just make up numbers', muppet.
    • Birdoftruth, on 04/19/2008, -3/+10I dugg you down. RTFA
      "However, a Sony spokesman today hit back at the company's arch rival, telling Register Hardware that the PS3 has outsold the Microsoft console every week for the last 15 weeks."
      • exomni, on 04/20/2008, -4/+2Then the headline should be "Despite high sales, Sony fails to push PS3 past 360".
  • nickcozy, on 04/19/2008, -33/+4List of microsoft items i have bought and proud of it,no trouble and its simple.

    Windows 98,Windows 2000,windows xp,windows vista,microsoft word,encarta,visual studio 2005,2008,Games Halo series,Age of empires .

    Microsoft wireless keyboard and mouse,Xbox and Xbox 360.

    And lastly i'm using digg which will one day become Microsoft's pocession.
    • krische, on 04/19/2008, -2/+5If anyone buys digg, it would probably be Google.
    • asskey, on 04/19/2008, -4/+2As long as you didn't say Windows ME...
    • uziko, on 04/19/2008, -11/+4LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL Do you realize how much you are hated by digg? A LOT, Although I'm with you on vista that os is ***** awesome. I can't say the same about their older products though...like xp, what a piece of *****.
      • PetroSan, on 04/19/2008, -1/+4/sarcasm?
        • uziko, on 04/20/2008, -4/+1why would it be sarcasm if I said vista was good, sarcasm would be like this "yea vista sucks... and linux is good, haha"
    • BattleScars, on 04/19/2008, -0/+13What the ***** is the point of this comment? I mean seriously, is this 'list random ***** about yourself' day or something?
    • senatorpjt, on 04/19/2008, -2/+5here's my list: MS-DOS 1.0, 3.0, 5.0, Windows 95, NT 4.0, XP, Office 97, and a mouse. Of course, all of these came with a computer, so I didn't really have a choice. (I did have a choice between NT 4.0 and Windows 98). I can see why they have so much money but they've seen their last dime from me.
    • kansai22, on 04/19/2008, -0/+4You deserve to be banned for ridiculous propaganda. Steve Ballmer we know its you stop changing your screen name. You are not welcome here if you are just going to advertise in all the comments.
  • NathanCH, on 04/19/2008, -27/+27This is good news for consumers. The PS3 is a better value when you take into account the Bluray player regardless of what anyone says. More sales will bring more support which is what the PS3 needs right now.
    • mike17032, on 04/19/2008, -6/+10Take a look at game sales for the PS3, they are not nearly so impressive.

      Having someone buy it just to use as a BR player does not help Sony win the Console war for the game market if that person never buys a game (and it only helps a little if he buys one or two games).

      The 360 is still killing in game sales, and thats what developers are going to look at.
      • Sedako, on 04/19/2008, -2/+4In the long run, it may help the PS3 get an edge in the game market. Say you have an average person who bought the PS3 to use as a Blu-ray player. Perhaps they weren't interested in any games that were out at the time. 2-3 years down the road, many more games will have been released, and this person may have decided that they liked a few and bought them out of interest.

        As of now, it's undeniable that the next couple of years have a lot of big name games in store for the PS3, and we'll most likely see both software sales and attach rates increase.
      • NoQuarter, on 04/20/2008, -5/+3The attach rate is close to 8 for the 360, down at 3.5 for the PS3. Games are where the profit are, there's nothing in it for the gaming division when there are less PS3s out there than 360s AND less games per console.
        • cthellis, on 04/20/2008, -1/+3I'm not sure where all the numbers are right now, but Microsoft themselves mentioned that the 360 was at 7 (NPD numbers, so we're talking US here). Gamestop management mentioned the NPD figures for the Wii was around 5, and the PS3 was about equal to that of the Wii. Microsoft confirmed the NPD figure of "7.5" in March. I don't see any updated info for the PS3 and Wii, but certainly the discrepency is not as you state it, and both the Wii and PS3 are ahead of the 360's position, matching launch dates.

          Their lead is more pronounced in Europe still, but the PS3 was delayed by an additional quarter over the others, and the Wii's supply issues were more pronounced out there, as they concentrated on Japan and North America first.

          Lead time gets you a better attach rate, but it certainly doesn't paint the whole picture.
  • kinseyincanada, on 04/19/2008, -13/+27for ***** sake can we just stop this stupid console war, who cares what system sold more, they are both great and both have good games, you dont need to justify your purchase just enjoy what you have and shut up.
    • uziko, on 04/19/2008, -10/+4But most of us like one console better than the others, or if your like me you think they all suck and the pc is best.
      • Shaflugi, on 04/20/2008, -1/+2You just completely missed the point.
        • timusca, on 04/21/2008, -1/+1Not only did he miss the point, but he made the point even more evident.
    • threepio, on 04/19/2008, -11/+16The console war was a *real* blast when the 360 was in the lead... now that it's faltering all we hear is "stop the war!"
      It's like thread after thread of "Leave Brittany Alone!!"
    • nobelief, on 04/19/2008, -1/+5it matters because competition produces better products.

    • WyttEarp, on 04/19/2008, -1/+4I kind of enjoy watching people talking out of their asses though... otherwise I wouldn't be here reading this. Can you really say otherwise about yourself?
  • Sniper, on 04/19/2008, -20/+14This doesn't mention that Sony will continue to outsell Microsoft. Sony still has a number of exclusive games to release, whereas Microsoft has used up all their ammo.
  • jakefloyd, on 04/19/2008, -14/+9Who cares?
    • jebzaki, on 04/19/2008, -7/+2not me!
    • spectecjr, on 04/19/2008, -8/+2Me. The split memory architecture on the PS3 makes it hard to fit all of the content into memory. Wish I could find whoever had that stupid idea and pummel them.
      • Tahiri, on 04/19/2008, -3/+5But it means the GPU has dedicated bandwidth to it's RAM, where 360 has to share it.

        That's why it's done like that on PCs/PS3/PS2/PS1/Dreamcast/etc. Its better for bandwidth.

        To give you a better idea of how crappy shared is, Laptops use shared memory. Desktops dont
        • spectecjr, on 04/21/2008, -2/+3Unfortunately, that realy doesn't matter. The GPU on the PS3 has much lower throughput than the GPU on the 360 - which is why the PS3 uses the SPUs to process vector data before it hits the GPU. Not good.
        • richto, on 05/03/2008, -0/+1And why game praphics suck somuch on the PS3. e.g. GTA4 only being able to scape 640p with framerate slowdowns.
    • notman, on 04/19/2008, -6/+2Microsoft
    • TheBigBad, on 04/20/2008, -2/+2Apparently you since you are reading the article then posting a comment.
  • MillionsLivio, on 04/19/2008, -13/+11Honestly, who gives a *****. Enjoy your console of preference and stop trying to shove your console down everyones throat with ***** statistics. I'm sick of seeing articles on a weekly basis about what console is selling more units this week, I care far more about the games then what console is selling better this month in some region of the world.
    • Zedix79, on 04/19/2008, -7/+4Well said.
    • volacide, on 04/19/2008, -7/+4Who's saying I can't enjoy both consoles and also be interested in who's outselling who? What's with this ***** assumption that just because I find interest in how well a company is doing I'm not enjoying myself. That's ***** absurd.
      This is what Digg was all about! Tech news! This is about tech. This is news.
  • chrislongridge, on 04/19/2008, -18/+8Xbox360 + wireless adapter is the same price as a PS3 which has built in wireless AND a blue ray player. I'm not surprised.

    PS. I own neither
  • myshl0ng, on 04/19/2008, -17/+10I`m not a console gamer myself, but for some reason, PS3 is a lot more appealing to me. I`m from Europe and to me, 360 just seems just "too colourful" and "rad" with no depth. That is the general feeling I get when I think of 360 and its games.
    Maybe it`s an european thing.

    Still, PC all the way (been a PC fanboy since 1993)
  • h0lyavenger, on 04/19/2008, -5/+9You should be praying that all 3 consoles do good. The more competition, the better. If Sony was the only one left standing you can bet your ass that the PS3 wouldn't have only cost $600.
    • senatorpjt, on 04/19/2008, -3/+4Whenever Microsoft is involved, competition always seems to suffer, though.
    • SniperGX1, on 04/19/2008, -5/+6Exactly. Currently 360 is the more expensive console. With PS3 you pay $400 and get everything. With 360 you have to buy the base for $350 + $99 for wireless + $75 for live
      • nobelief, on 04/19/2008, -2/+4live doesn't cost $75 and wireless is optional
        • cthellis, on 04/20/2008, -2/+3He might have been averaging, since Live has multiple pricing options:
          12 month block = $50/year
          3 month blocks = $80/year
          1 month blocks = $128/year

          There are other options (box sets) muddying up the precise value, and for the most part I think people pay a year at a time, but that's the lowest rate... not necessarily the one everyone pays at.

          Regardless, even ignoring wireless (and Blu-Ray), the Live subscription makes the Xbox the most expensive machine. Effectively, it ties the PS3 right out of the box, and by the next year you're paying more. If you picked up a launch 360, you'll have paid $50 more than what you could have purchased the "LOLXPENSIVE" PS3 for at launch. At the end of the year, you'll have tied that $600 mark everyone balked at, and still have a few more years to go before we leave this generation.
        • richto, on 05/03/2008, -0/+1But the PS3 doesnt have anything to compare with Xbox Live. Its online functionality is broken, limited and nothing like the slick integrated solution of Xbox Live.

    • richto, on 05/03/2008, -0/+1But the PS3 doesnt have anything to compare with Xbox Live. Its online functionality is broken, limited and nothing like the slick integrated solution of Xbox Live.

      And wireless is optional - most people use an ethernet cable.
  • LawSchoolBound, on 04/19/2008, -8/+6I like video games
  • TwoLOUD, on 04/19/2008, -11/+10I hate fanboys.
    • Arkz, on 04/19/2008, -7/+5First good comment
      • Planets, on 04/19/2008, -4/+2The only people who use the word "fanboys" are "fanboys" themselves. I'd be careful calling other people that if I were you.
  • VinnieDaMac, on 04/19/2008, -12/+6http://www.vgchartz.com/ - overall the PS3 still has a lot of ground to cover.
  • TWIXMIX, on 04/19/2008, -1/+23I'm still not entirely sure why people are buying the Wii in such large numbers. In my opinion the controller isn't precise enough to offer a great feeling of immersiveness and the games library is horrible in comparison to that of the Xbox 360. I'll admit Mario and Brawl are great games, but the system desperately needs some great 3rd party games in its lineup.
    • Sniper, on 04/19/2008, -3/+18Soccer moms and spoiled 8 year old kids FTW
      • TWIXMIX, on 04/19/2008, -3/+10Ya, unfortunately that's probably the case.
    • Okari, on 04/19/2008, -8/+1It has good 3rd party games, like Zack and Wiki and Kororinpa. Not every game is a mini-game collection.
    • shinythingy, on 04/19/2008, -1/+9This. The Wii interested me because it seemed like it would really immerse me into a game like never before but in reality it just fails
      • TWIXMIX, on 04/19/2008, -1/+7Ya, that's the impression it gives, but it is false. The remote is not even close to being accurate enough to immerse.
    • daborg, on 04/20/2008, -0/+2The people buying it are people who aren't hardcore gamers like you, and thus don't care about hardcore gamer features like the precision of the controller. They just want to bowl with their friends! Nintendo sure struck gold on this one.

      I'm doubting whether Nintendo is going to try and cater to the hardcore gamer market at all with the Wii. They don't need to and we have the 360 and PS3 to play with.
    • richto, on 05/03/2008, -0/+1By soccer mums you mean women that play football? Most of them are lesbians and hardly likely to be mums!
  • elint6, on 04/19/2008, -7/+2FTA: "And the Wii would still be “healthily” ahead of PS3 and Xbox 360 if those two machines' UK sales were combined."
    LOL
  • ace429k, on 04/19/2008, -11/+7the other day i was thinking about my 360 and how it has let me down. cus it broke. then i sent it in last wednesday and its coming back this coming wednesday. no waiting a month and a half for me! suddenly im back in love with it. cant wait to play some COD4.
    • willskillz, on 04/19/2008, -7/+3What a douche you are. Bet you drive a Ford too, huh?
      • ace429k, on 04/20/2008, -2/+1thanks m8. now why dont you go look at some CP with your 35 year old dad and do a circle jerk with your cousins.
    • jdaniel284, on 04/19/2008, -7/+4"then i sent it in last wednesday and its coming back this coming wednesday"

      No, "it" is not coming back to you. A refurb unit is coming back to you, not your original console. A refurb unit with an unknown history that has probably been repaired several times, shipped back and forth across the country and into Mexico, and had the "towel trick" applied to it before some other owner angrily slammed it into the return box.

      You will never see the new console you bought at retail again. You are getting a pass-the-trash unit.
      • ace429k, on 04/20/2008, -2/+1oh. ok. well why dont you go piss in the drain gutter rat
      • TheBigBad, on 04/20/2008, -0/+1my pass-the-trash unit works fine now so I couldn't care less about it's back story.
  • carl25, on 04/19/2008, -7/+2http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/867/867514p1.html
    • jo21, on 04/19/2008, -1/+5npd = america,
      worlwide still dead on for the xbox
    • WhereAmI, on 04/19/2008, -2/+4Thats US numbers. This article is about Europe.

      Yes, The PS3 and 360 are sold elsewhere. You might even be /shocked/ to know that the 360 hasn't even hit a million sales in Japan yet.
  • MohdSaud, on 04/19/2008, -12/+5PS3 is the best.
  • peestandingup, on 04/19/2008, -10/+4I'm sick of these ***** pro Blu-ray arguments like its the next coming of Christ.

    Blu-ray still IS NOT a proven format, guys & there are no guarantees that it ever will be. No matter what us nerds think or what tech articles (see: opinions) try to make us think. There's a whole bunch of different variables now then there were when we went from VHS to DVD.
    • TWIXMIX, on 04/19/2008, -1/+7I believe it's almost 100% certain that blu-ray will be the next big thing. When it comes to movies, Sony owns so many studios that it makes it hard for them to lose.
      • LordoftheFly, on 04/19/2008, -3/+3Digital distribution. True story.
        • TWIXMIX, on 04/19/2008, -0/+5I understand that it is a possibility, but many places just simply don't have the connections to pull this off. Also, there are many people, including myself, that like having a boxed hard copy.
        • shinythingy, on 04/19/2008, -1/+5***** internet infrastructure. True Story.
          • peestandingup, on 04/19/2008, -1/+1Broadband infrastructure growing faster than Blu-ray's. True story.
    • SmilinGoat, on 04/19/2008, -1/+3yeah, people are hoping for downloads to be the next big thing, but i think its going to be a few years before that really has a chance to pick up. first we need just about every movie to be digitally availible, and at a good price. then we need cheap dependable players, which lets face it, isnt going to happen for a while, they need to be under $75 to get the mass market to adopt it as well. i dont know its going to happen, but i think blu-ray will be the norm before downloadable movies gets a chance to really make a difference.
  • Matt174e, on 04/19/2008, -3/+4How about a cheaper 120GB hard drive and Goldeneye 64?
  • SmilinGoat, on 04/19/2008, -11/+2I got a PS3 a few months ago, i got it mostly for blu-ray, but to this day i still dont own a game for it. i mean ive purchased a few, but warhawk was horrible, ratchet and clank was good, but no replay value to me, and hot shots golf was the worst. most multiplatform games i get for the 360 as i have more friends to play online with.

    but because of blu-ray i keep it, movies look great. and there are some games that will eventually come out that i really want. for now its an expensive movie player, but eventually it will be a good console game.
  • matt.rubin, on 04/19/2008, -7/+3I like my 360 because of "backup" games
    there is no equivalent on the PS3 also the fact blank blu-rays are like 15 dollars as apposed to the 2 dollar Dual layers
    • MrLunar, on 04/20/2008, -1/+4May I direct you to the morons section of the internet, it's just over there. No need to disturb these nice people here.
    • cthellis, on 04/20/2008, -1/+1Um... What? o_O
  • Malarie, on 04/19/2008, -8/+2I think the 360 is the new Sega. If HdDVD would have won, the PS3 would have won this title. Thanks Warner.
  • TonyTheTerrible, on 04/19/2008, -6/+2'in the UK'
  • carl25, on 04/19/2008, -6/+2ok, here is the sales of 360 in europe
    http://www.gamer.tm/news.php?id=2363
  • Epik, on 04/19/2008, -7/+2PC wings. Then PS3 > 360. Wii is a completely different machine. More like a toy for kids than an actual "gaming" console. At least not for the graphics intensive titles that developers are pushing on to the other consoles. PC wins overall hands down though. Too bad PC pirate gamers frighten the devs.
    • SLockhart, on 04/20/2008, -1/+3PC gaming blows. Mouse and keyboard is such an antiquated way of playing video games.
      • cthellis, on 04/20/2008, -0/+1Technically, playing on a gamepad is years older than kb/m. MANY years older if you're only going by "mouse control" where it's acting in live-response control, rather than simply being a point-and-click interface.

        At any rate, the preferred control method changes from genre to genre, and game to game.
      • SLockhart, on 04/20/2008, -0/+1Your right, antiquated was the wrong word. Let's go with anti-intuitive or even just lame.
        • cthellis, on 04/21/2008, -0/+1The only one trying to be "intuitive" is the Wii, and that doesn't make it "good" for every game. Using your thumbs constantly isn't any more intuitive or less lame... it's just the "sitting in front of the couch" method that's been tweaked for the past few decades. KB/M offers all five fingers on one hand being able to be in use at the same time (instead of thumb/fore/middle on every gamepad), and your other hand gets to operate a far more sensitive analog control for that which can use it well (such as aiming in an FPS), as well as carting along a host of other buttons (three normally, but the limit is how many are on your mouse, which can be upwards of a dozen), and on-the-fly sensitivity adjustments.

          It's more complex, more exacting, and way LESS lame for many games. (Amusingly, lots of the games that are getting more and more popular on the consoles, while the ones that grew out of a gamepad heritage are less emphasized these days.)

          Again, the "best" method, the "preferred method" and the "lame" method changes from genre to genre, and game to game.
  • insomniac8400, on 04/19/2008, -5/+2Nice of them to brag about selling in more console in an area the size of california. They clearly win. Microsoft should just lay down and die.
  • TheLD, on 04/19/2008, -0/+3Some people spend more time arguing about which console is the best/has the most sales than they do playing their console.
  • misterteenwolf, on 04/19/2008, -6/+2i have both
    i win
  • captsaveahoe, on 04/19/2008, -2/+9I wish my 360 would stop freezing randomly during gameplay....is that too much to ask?
  • NipGrip, on 04/19/2008, -11/+82008, year the PS3 started to kick the 360's ass.

    Fable 2 and GoW2 are *not* going to hold a candle to what the PS3 has in store for 2008 and 2009. Get real, would you? Admit the 360 blew it's load from 2006-2007 and gamewise has little to nothing exciting to come. Too Human.. OoooOOOOooo.. Yeah, that'll knock God of War on the PS3 just outta the park.

    Sell those 360's now, like hotcakes on Ebay or CL and buy a PS3 and be done with it. We're playing the same damned games anyways for the most part so stop with the "there's no games on the ps3 adurr-hurr" drivel. Stop supporting a company that puts ***** in a box, please. We do want better out of our gaming companies, right?
    • lemonbomb, on 04/21/2008, -1/+3don't be jealous because you wont be able to play Fable 2 or GoW2 : /
    • bulgingbritches, on 04/21/2008, -1/+1"Drivel" is your entire post. I'm glad that PS3 owners will finally have a solid year of good games considering 360 owners have had 3 already.
    • BabyWookie, on 04/23/2008, -0/+1You forgot about the sequel to one of the most highly rated action games of the last generation, Ninja Gaiden 2.
    • Kiwibomb, on 05/03/2008, -0/+1list some of these blockbuster PS3 titles only plz
  • kansai22, on 04/19/2008, -5/+9By Christmas the PS3 will definitely have a strong lead over Xbox 360. It will not catch the Wii until the end of its life cycle though if ever.
    • BabyWookie, on 04/23/2008, -0/+2On which planet will the PS3 has a lead over the 360 by xmas? You are truly delusional.
  • nullcodes, on 04/19/2008, -5/+1This is BS .. I am waiting for the next console generation which better have 4 GB memory, built in wifi and mad HDTV/media/entertainment features.
  • surbo, on 04/19/2008, -7/+6You know the SAD part is that Sony is paying high dollar to companies like EA to make sure the games are as good as 360. In most cases EA will strip out parts of the game because the game will start to chug on the PS3. The only thing 360 has going for it is that they have the most games and the programing language is so easy compared to the PS3. 360 needs to wake up and drink some bluray. Either come out with a nextgen console or get on board with an add on. People are going to buy the PS3 do to the fact that is has bluray player and not even care about the game play. If the PS3 is not out selling the 360 now that the bluray HDDVD war is over Sony is doing a horrible marketing job. Come on ...Want BluRay - Get a ps3 for 400 bones!!
    • Zemnexx, on 04/20/2008, -7/+4Chances of it chugging on the PS3, slim to none. The 360 has alot more problems with "chugging" then the PS3 because the PS3 just has more/better hardware in it. And I don't own a PS3, I own a Xbox 360 for those fag fanboys who will flock to this comment to flame me.
      • surbo, on 04/20/2008, -4/+7check out some of the games on both.. you will see they had to remove things like fog and crap. Don't get me wrong the ps3 is fast but it sucks for graphics.
    • Tahiri, on 04/20/2008, -3/+4Um, no Sony doesnt pay devs for that.
    • B3000, on 04/20/2008, -3/+6You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. None.
      • surbo, on 04/20/2008, -7/+6Sure I do - I know tons of people at EA. They don't even want to play the PS3 at the end of the day cause it sucks so bad for graphics..
        • B3000, on 04/20/2008, -4/+5You are so full of ***** I can smell you from here. I actually DO know people at EA. And Sony. And Activision. And THQ. The reasons the PS3 versions of EA games are SLIGHTLY LESS polished is because - while vastly more powerful - the PS3 is a more difficult machine to program for, and until just recently, Sony's developer support was fairly *****. EA didn't want to put in the time/money it would take to get their code up and running properly on the PS3 because, for a while it's minimal market share just didn't support the extra expenditure. Now that Sony has delivered a better tool-set for developers and PS3's market is expanding, the graphics gap - which is already minimal - will close. And furthermore, you will begin to see (if you haven't already) graphics in Sony's exclusives that blow the crap out of 360's.

          Now, I'm not a Sony fanboy - at the moment I play both systems about equally - so don't go screaming about bias. I like 360's controller better, it has a far better online system in place, and it has some really top notch exclusives like Gears, Bioshock and Mass Effect, that any PS3 owner should be jealous of (although Halo is for chumps). But the reality of the situation is that the PS3 has only just begun to show it's potential, while the 360 is very near it's ceiling.

          Oh, and also, you are a total ***** liar.
          • BabyWookie, on 04/23/2008, -0/+2Idiot boy, how is the PS3 "vastly more powerful"? The Cell is one joke of a crippled, over-complicated processor architecture with terrible memory deficiencies and and its GPU, the RSX , doesn't even have unified shaders.
        • surbo, on 04/20/2008, -6/+2Please you sound so much like a FAN BOY - you say you play both systems but , everyone can see you love sony so much. As for the liar part thats steep, check your sources ask your friends about DEAD SPACE if you really know some one fanboy. Dead Space was given money to make sure they game look the same as 360 no lie. EA was like hell we will do it is free money, but the coders think it sucks. Only good thing is it forces them to learn the new code for sony. In the past they would just remove it. When you want to make a point you should just say your part and not attack people. You come off like you are 10 and for you not being fanboy well check your nick "B3000" is a sony speaker I am sure you love. I like em to dont get me wrong.
    • richto, on 05/03/2008, -0/+1That and the fact that the PS3 has an inferior graphics chip. Meaning however much CPU power you can throw at games they are still going to be inferior to the Xbox 360
  • Zap2, on 04/20/2008, -1/+1I read these article as video gaming is gain steam?

    Nintendo, Microsoft,Sony, Sega, Vavle, Rockstar, EA, and other 3rd paries FTW!!!
  • coresnake, on 04/20/2008, -11/+5***** you xbox fanfags that come on here every day saying the ps3 is dead. It's not dead and once MGS and Gran Turismo comes out you can kiss your crappy 'lead' goodbye. PS3 FOREVER!!!!!!!
  • jesushitler, on 04/20/2008, -2/+10bah...360 still has way better games. i'll dust off my PS3 on June 12th.
    • NipGrip, on 04/22/2008, -3/+1What "better games"? I'm always curious as to what people mean by this.. Kameo? That stupid ***** Pinata game?
      • richto, on 05/03/2008, -1/+1Gear of wars for a start.
      • NipGrip, 4 hr 59 min ago, -0/+1I'll see your Gears of Bore and raise it with Uncharted. Don't make me pull out Ratchet and Clank on your ass.
  • nunofgs, on 04/20/2008, -4/+15I'll start off by saying that I own an Xbox 360 and absolutely love it. I've never owned a playstation and never really wanted one, however, Microsoft needs to get their ***** heads out of their asses if they want to stay in the game.

    Dropping the price in Europe was a good start, but they're gonna need more than that.
    Let's analyze this a bit further:

    The PS3 has FREE online gaming. I mean, COME ON, that's a no-brainer. I already paid for the console, the $70 game and I'm using MY internet connection. It's not like I can play Team Fortress 2 on a dedicated microsoft server. Why the hell should I pay on top of that for a service that others give out for free (Nintendo DS, Wii, PS2, PS3, PSP). Microsoft should just convert people's subscriptions into Live Points and stop charging for the live service.

    The PS3's soon-to-come Home/Second Life thing. Honestly, I couldn't care less about it. But you know those 8 year old kids love that ***** and whether you like it or not, it WILL sell consoles.

    $90 for a 20gb hard-drive? Are you serious? The PS3 lets you hook up ANY hard-drive you want. Just buy a 500GB HD and stick it in there.

    The PS3 has HDMI in all consoles, Wi-Fi in all consoles ($60 for a ***** pen-sized wifi adaptor for the xbox?) and most importantly, a HD in every single console. Oh, and let's not forget the blu-ray. Even if it didn't make a big difference right now (which it does) in about 5 years when pratically every home has an HD TV, it will.

    RROD/ban-hammers/DRM issues/live unsubscribing issues/DLC pricing issues/etc,etc. Microsoft need to be a lot more permissive if they want to STAY in the console business. I'm not saying they shouldn't care if you pirate games, I'm saying that they shouldn't be as ban-happy about banning people with modded fans and whatnot.

    Like I said, I love my Xbox and I really don't want to see it drop out of the console business, but Microsoft needs to fix some of these issues, YESTERDAY.
    • CollapseControl, on 04/20/2008, -4/+6Go try out the PSN, I mean like really try it out, use it for a week and not touch XBL, then come back and let us know if FREE is really the way to go.

      HOME will hopefully attract all the little children and freaks away from the 360 so they can mingle with avatars.

      The HDD is considered in the cost of the console, not a big deal, and neither is HDMI & Wifi, they are even less of a NEED over a WANT.

      And of course the hardware failures are a pain, but the console is so damn good it gets played like crazy and ***** up.

      I do hope they get the DRM all fixed, now that can get really annoying.

      Otherwise, everyone who gives the console a chance, who loves video games, has friends to game with, all know that this console, despite flaws, is still the most fun console out today.
      • cthellis, on 04/20/2008, -3/+3Go try out Steam, I mean like really try it out, use it for a week and not touch XBL, then come back and let us know of SUBSCRIPTION is at all deserved.
        • cthellis, on 04/20/2008, -1/+3My bad, should have said "if" instead of "of," of course. (Hmm... that's a lot of "of"s.)

          The main point is simply that "Live does not exist in a vacuum." Xfire's been delivering inter-game communicating and ease of joining your friends for ages, freely. Steam rolled that in as well, along with many additional community features aside, that go well beyond what Live and 360 games offer. Still no fee, and no ads either.

          That's essentially what Microsoft is charging for, right?
      • nunofgs, on 04/21/2008, -0/+3I'm sorry but your reply is totally biased and fanboy-ish.

        I haven't tried PSN yet, but from what I see online, they are getting better. Or was the Xbox360 as good 2 years ago as it is now? I didn't even remember Steam, which cthellis, brought up. Steam is an absolutely great example of an online platform that is free and extremely powerfull.

        You dismissed the HDD, HDMI and Wifi in a single phrase. Sure, Wifi sounds superfluous until you buy an xbox, put it in your living room and find out that there is no way in hell you can reach an ethernet cable all across the house.

        Also, are you seriously argumenting that the Xbox360 gets RROD because people love it so much that they play it to death? You sound like some politicians trying to spin these issues out of existence.
        • cthellis, on 04/21/2008, -0/+2"Also, are you seriously argumenting that the Xbox360 gets RROD because people love it so much that they play it to death?"

          Also kind of an odd claim, considering the Folding@Home client is quite popular on the PS3 (and he seems the type to use it mockingly, as well), which taxes the system harder than most games do, and means the system is running 24/7. And yet they don't die. Funny, no?
    • eryximachus, on 04/21/2008, -0/+1I believe the largest 2.5" drive available today is a 320gb drive. That said, you can use external USB drives...
  • rusty123jimi, on 04/20/2008, -9/+4Xbox 360 can suck my nuts!!! It'll probably quit before it gets the job done though...RROD!!!
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