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- FrankRizzo69, on 04/13/2008, -66/+770saxeniac@ccisd.com
Copperas Cove High School Principal
Dr. Carol Saxenian
Light her up Diggers this is absolutely disgusting. - skeletonkeeper, on 04/13/2008, -44/+623To the school official: YO STUPID!!! Try switching places with the kid for a minute. His dad, his best friend, in an area where he could be dead before hanging up, calls him. You bet I would have taken the call!
- Xanium4332, on 04/13/2008, -11/+394Our spam will blot out her screen...
- liquidhalcyon, on 04/13/2008, -6/+327Then she shall type in the shade.
- kirralin23, on 04/13/2008, -11/+222I agree in general that cell phones should not be allowed in class, when I was in college I had to turn my cell phone off during class. This, however, is a special circumstance. This young man relies on his father, this is good. His father is in Iraq. Although he is doing a great thing for this nation, it's awful hard on his family. So, when the boy needs to speak to his father, urgently, the mother arranges it. This is not some kid thumbing his nose at the rules. Clearly there was something very important he needed to discuss with his father, otherwise his mother wouldn't have arranged it. To make matters worse, it seems clear that this possibility was discussed with the school before the father deployed. I hate it when the school tells me one thing about how my children will be treated, and then treats them differently behind my back. Sure does make for a lack of trust. The school is so clearly in the wrong. Perhaps in the future, when this boy needs to speak with his father, he should just skip school for the day. Then, of course, the school won't get paid for that days attendance, but hey, class won't be disrupted for a family emergency. Better yet, home school.
- ArchangelZLT, on 04/13/2008, -14/+182Liberals don't loathe the army. Liberals loathe people who send the army to death for stupid reasons.
- solidus636, on 04/13/2008, -20/+155How stupid are YOU?! His dad is off at war, so he could easily die at any moment.... I don't live with my father, but if I were as close to him as this kid was...you bet your ASS i would've taken the phone call.
- Heem, on 04/13/2008, -16/+145The kid is absolutely right for taking the call. However, when you do things that break the rules, you have to consider if its worth the punishment. If I speed 100 mph because I have to get to the hospital to lets say see my father that was sick, I risk the fact that I'm going to get a ticket. Thats just the way it goes. I'm willing to pay the ticket in exchange for getting to the hospital in time.
- ennTOXX, on 04/13/2008, -14/+132I agree I would've taken the call & left the class room, but how do you think amidst a phone call lof this caliber?... :||
- LifeguardMom, on 04/13/2008, -4/+98Blessed are the flexible, for they shall not be broken............
- smacksaw, on 04/13/2008, -0/+83I taught for years...adults...with phones. People know why they're taking a class. If it's important, they can take the call and go outside. Absolutely not a problem.
I started college when I was still in high school and people could come and go as they pleased. It worked pretty well, I might add. When I went back to high school I kept that habit and told my teachers that I was responsible for my own learning and if I needed to go to the washroom or felt sick, I was going to leave. I would extend them the courtesy of explaining it, or if they had a policy I would follow it.
People have a tendency to live up to the expectations we put on them. When we put low expectations on kids, that's about all we're going to get. Let the kid exercise some responsibility and talk to his dad. There's always time for education. Talking to your father in imminent danger every hour of every day? Let him. - inactive, on 04/13/2008, -9/+90God you're stupid.
- inactive, on 04/13/2008, -11/+85lol just read that as "sexmaniac"...
- TomOwens, on 05/11/2008, -5/+73That's rather cold. If I get a phone call during class (my phone's always on vibrate as to not disrupt the class), I see who it is. If I must take the call, I leave the room. There's no problem with that at all, and anyone that has a problem with that needs to grow up.
- nsanidy, on 04/13/2008, -0/+64I wish there was a double-digg button that could only be used once every so often. This is one of those times. Well done Xanium/Liquid, I needed a laugh.
- smartazz, on 04/13/2008, -2/+66I don't see what the problem is, he gets to talk to his dad AND gets a few days off.
- Jenadae, on 04/13/2008, -1/+61If his phone was on silent/vibrate and he excused him self from the class to take an important call and then came promptly back i see no reason for this.
- Spottswood, on 04/13/2008, -17/+76To both the two above me getting dugg down: you make me sick.
The dad is calling his son when his son's in class. That leaves two obvious possibilities of why hes calling for the kid to think about before he answers the call. Either the dad forgot that he was in school cuz of the time difference. Or he's in trouble and wants to talk to his kid. What kind of son/daughter would not answer that call? - Billions, on 04/13/2008, -7/+62"Some even smile when a US soldier dies"
Maybe you're thinking of Cheney? - HYPEractive, on 04/13/2008, -3/+53Rule breakers change society. If we followed rules, than we'd still be under prohibition, segregation would still be going on, and women wouldn't have a right to vote.
An unjust rule is a rule to be broken - guntario, on 04/13/2008, -2/+46Or it leaves the option that was stated in the article. The one where it says the kid "needed" to talk to his Dad, so his Mom had his Dad call him in the middle of class.
- Heem, on 04/13/2008, -0/+43only if you stop.
- cygnus2112, on 04/13/2008, -9/+52We don't need no education
We dont need no thought control
No dark sarcasm in the classroom
Teachers leave them kids alone
Hey! Teachers! Leave them kids alone!
All in all it's just another brick in the wall.
All in all you're just another brick in the wall.
"Wrong, Do it again!"
"If you don't eat yer meat, you can't have any pudding. How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer meat?"
"You! Yes, you behind the bikesheds, stand still laddy!" - inactive, on 04/13/2008, -12/+55I don't know who's running the schools these days, but it seems to me that whoever is should return to school themselves so they might learn something, anything.
- mystcnurse, on 04/13/2008, -7/+47In the state where I live, there is a fifty percent high school drop out rate. It isn't much better in most places. If teens were treated like people at school instead of herds of animals, maybe there would be a better retention rate. I think the kid had every right to take the call, and he should have been able to look up at his teacher and say, excuse me, this is an emergency, and walk out into the hall and talk to his father. It may have been the only time he was able to call his son. A friend of mine, whose husband is deployed, only gets to speak with him occasionally, and it is only when HE can call her. She has missed his calls a number of times and it always bums her out severely.
- Tyorant, on 04/13/2008, -12/+51If you follow every rule like a souless robot you might as well be dead.
There are constantly situations where one has the choice to defy the rules or follow procedure, even if they feel strongly against the procedure, then it's just down to you if you're willing to risk your neck.
Maybe she did sympathise with the guy, but didn't have the balls to do what's really right. - Typhoon2009, on 04/13/2008, -8/+451) It's freakin high school dude. It's not like they're learning how to control a runaway nuclear reaction in Nuclear Engineering 101. A minute of interrupted class time (I bet the kid would've left the room if asked) won't do *****. Chances are they weren't learning anything anyways, what with our education system.
2) As others have said, soldiers don't get to pick and choose when they can call family. They have very specific time limits. Have YOU ever had a parent serving overseas? It's not a matter of needing counseling, it's a matter of wanting to talk to a person who has unconditional love for you and raised you. Maybe your parents beat you and fed you the dog's scraps, but some folks do have good relationships with their parents. - DonX, on 04/13/2008, -0/+36Just emailed her and got this back:
This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification
Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:
saxeniac@ccisd.com
Technical details of permanent failure:
PERM_FAILURE: Gmail tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the recipient domain. The error that the other server returned was: 550 550 5.1.1 Mailbox does not exist. We recommend contacting the other email provider for further information about the cause of this error. Thanks for your continued support. (state 14) - inactive, on 04/13/2008, -3/+38Zero tolerance policies require zero common sense by school administrators.
- unchienne, on 04/13/2008, -52/+86While the circumstances of the situation seem to pull at both patriotic and sympathetic heartstrings, please keep in mind a classroom situation. You have a class full of students who are working, a cell phone goes off, the child stops to chat, walks out of the room and carries on the conversation. Oh no...I don't see three hundred or more teenagers getting upset because they can't do the same or distracted or causing a distrubance with their curiosity or comments. And will this be expected treatment all of the time? If the boy is so troubled that he can't wait to get home to speak with his father then he needs counseling, seriously. But I actually put the bulk of the responsiblity of the parents. The mother urged the father to call, and the father called, knowing full well his son was in school and there was a no-cellphone policy. She talks about protecting the rights of other students in similar circumstances...o.k., but what does that mean for a hs like Cove High with more than half of the students have at least one parent deployed? And how long will it take before kids are claiming that many of their call are from deployed parents when they are not? What they should have done in this situation was contact the school and ask for the child to come to the office and accept the call in private or at home. They're using public sympathy to justify their actions that while do have an emotional appeal...are still wrong.
- inactive, on 04/13/2008, -3/+36Hey, looks like she's a customer for the ISP I work for. I have her account up right in front of me right now.
Taking suggestions. - dives425, on 04/13/2008, -8/+41After reading this, I ran right out to Walmart, bought a new American Flag, pledged allegiance, and donated to McCain. Thanks Fox News! ....
- WhiskeyLemur, on 06/30/2009, -6/+38My relationship with my family takes precedence over pissant school rules - and I _don't_ have family members in dangerous careers. Unreq, you really need to reconsider your priorities -- or perhaps you need to learn basic empathy, I can't quite decide which.
- theutopian, on 04/13/2008, -5/+36Let's sign her up for a bunch of porn e-mails. She needs to learn the glories of two girls, one cup.
- LogitechG15, on 04/13/2008, -3/+34"I have such a high regard for Fox News and the normally high quality work they do"
You made me loll. - zwaldowski, on 04/13/2008, -5/+32He had no idea the call was coming.
- WhiskeyLemur, on 06/30/2009, -7/+34"it seems more the Father's fault, if he knew his kid was in school why not just call the school phone and have him sent to the office to talk instead"
Let me break it down for you:
His father... is in... IRAQ. With me so far? Moving on.
1. Even if he is in a civilian position (which seems unlikely, considering the article says he is a sergeant), the situation is very tenuous. He is in a warzone, for chrissakes, not at a Caribbean resort. Tense situation, limited time.... calling through the school office takes a lonnnnng time, which means by the time his son gets to the phone (assuming he is even called down for it), the father's window of opportunity may have passed. He may only have certain times of day free; due to time differences, it may be that he can ONLY call his son during school hours.
2. International calls are expensive. Like, VERY expensive. Again - why wait?
3. Connections on international calls are notoriously unreliable. If he had his son called down to the office, he would have had to wait at the minimum 3-5 minutes, if his son's high school is bigger than the average McDonald's. In that time, even if he didn't get called out for an emergency, he may very well have lost the connection.
Give me a break.... I'm not a rebel by any stretch of the imagination, and I respect the necessity for rules and structure in a school environment. But as I said above: my family will ALWAYS take precedence over your rules, your convenience, even your well-being. It's his FATHER we're talking about. Why do some people think they have a right to more respect and consideration than a father who is his son's best friend, who is in constant danger, and of whom his son is probably very proud? - TexMexMatt, on 04/13/2008, -8/+35That is the most load of crap I ever heard. You don't know what you are talking about. Democrats have a whole bunch of vets while most republicans come up with a whole bunch of sorry assed excuses not to serve. Cheney didn't serve. Bush kind of served (nobody really knows what he did). McCain served and he is almost the only one too.
http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:WRsekFUhmgIJ: ...
Sorry about the google cache but that page wasn't there anymore.
NO Democrat would smile when a US soldier dies. ABSOLUTELY NO ONE!!!!!! You should have a good ass whopping for spreading lies like that.
How about this then. To a Republican a soldier is nothing more than a piece of crap they can use and discard. Soldiers are not humans to Conservatives. They are not worthy a proper burial and they are not worthy a heroes welcome. They are to be silenced and hidden from view. NOW THAT IS DISRESPECT AND IF THAT ISN'T LOATHING MILITARY THEN I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS!!!!!!!!
This isn't about being liberal or conservative. Schools have rules and they need to be followed and sometimes things like this happens. No calls allowed during class.
You Sir, are a ***** moron and you disrespect US military that died for USA, for democracy and for freedom to be either democrat, republican or whatever heck you want to be. - crow30, on 04/13/2008, -23/+49It is hard enough to run a classroom full of students, let alone today's students who are addicted to their cell phones. If the classroom rules do not allow cell phones in class, no cell phones are to be used in class. At best, the student should have asked to be excused for a few minutes, at worst the student and the parent should have known better-- especially since his school is supposed to have several students with parents who are deployed. Casting aspersions on teachers as unsympathetic (or worse) shows ignorance. Any good parent, even deployed parents, should value their child's education highly and made an effort to find out the time difference so that they could contact the child after school.
- BOFH2, on 04/13/2008, -3/+29so if Rawstory had published it, that would be okay?
- RetepNamenots, on 04/13/2008, -10/+35In the butt.
- cerealman, on 04/13/2008, -3/+27FTA: Pre-Approval
"I was pretty shocked, considering that several months before we left I had talked to the … assistant principal and thought everything was fine," Morris Hill said. - spinchange, on 04/13/2008, -0/+24I wish the rest of the educators that were commenting & defending the school took a more reasoned view just like you expressed. All these comments to the effect of "but, but, but, they disrupted everyone else's education for a moment" just blow me away. Everyone understands common sense rules, like no cell phones in class. To so rigidly and obtusely adhere to these rules in the face of student ducking out of class to take a call from a *parent* calling their child -- FROM IRAQ, seems to me to betray just the kind critical thinking that kids are in school to learn in the first place.
- zeabu, on 04/13/2008, -2/+26My dad is a fireman, and although there's always the chance he doesn't return after duty, chances are far more higher for a soldier in a warzone. That and the difference my dad comes home every day, and that soldier once in 6 months. Those and the difference In Iraq they sleep when people in the US are working/schoolgoing/... and viceversa.
- skeletonkeeper, on 04/13/2008, -11/+34With all due respect, the son could very well be the primary support for the mom who is not head cook and bottle washer for the family. I have been in situations close to his and you do keep your phone on incase you are needed for an emergency. He grows up real quick. I idea that the father should have calculated the time difference makes me wonder how much of the military you are familiar with in regards to its demands. You take what time you are given. I am sorry that the military and the butchery of the terrorist in Iraq did not fall during the student's lunch time.
- mcool119, on 04/13/2008, -1/+24Wrong meme, man.
- everett3, on 04/13/2008, -3/+26We don't have the whole story. We don't know how the kid went about it. What if the teacher asked him to get off the phone and he was hostile? Or if he was playing with the phone all day because he was expecting his call. Lately these kind of "would you believe it" quick blurbs are falling apart more often than not.
- mawh, on 04/13/2008, -3/+25"The matter has since been resolved, Patricia Hill said,"
No need. - zwaldowski, on 04/13/2008, -7/+29Do you not ***** understand the concept of time zones?
- robthom, on 04/13/2008, -13/+34Is everyone in texas insane?
There is always some weird ***** going on in, or coming out of there. The only thing I can think of in texas' favor is mike judge. -
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