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dallasnews.com — Dallas County District Attorney Craig Watkins announced this week that documents related to the assassination of President John F. Kennedy were found in a little-known vault in his office.
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- silverleaves, on 05/17/2008, -19/+56Sounds like they were hidden. I'm surprised they were not burned by Bush Senior. You know the guy who was promised The presidency if he would cover up the Warren report? How else could this guy get into office, same with his son.
- LewP, on 05/17/2008, -6/+6Totally agree...it would have added even more murkey details to an already weired case.
- zspitfire04, on 05/18/2008, -0/+1weird* Come on, your mouse is like less than half an inch from Check Spelling...
- Lyph5, on 05/17/2008, -14/+5Yeah, that post doesn't sound paranoid at all. Next you'll be posting about Chemtrails and about how 9/11 was an inside job.
- dOOBiEx213, on 05/17/2008, -4/+5lulz nub, go slash wrists plz, kthxbai!
- Gumbos, on 05/17/2008, -13/+4How is this conspiracy theory bull comment not buried yet?
All I see in the documents are boring letters.- unreg, on 05/17/2008, -3/+1Because it indicts a member of the Bush family. The typical Digger will click Thumbs Up on anything anti-bush. Or pro-obama.
- unreg, on 05/17/2008, -3/+1Because it indicts a member of the Bush family. The typical Digger will click Thumbs Up on anything anti-bush. Or pro-obama.
- plimpton777, on 05/17/2008, -2/+8I don't know about Bush being "promised" the presidency, but his cooperation sure didn't hurt his pursuit. The direct beneficiary to the Warren Commission was Gerald Ford, who was just a Congressman at the time. Sure helped his career. Also, Dan Rather was a local newsman, but being one of the people to originally view the Zapruder film in a private setting, and then LYING about what the tape showed, helped his career ascent to the national level. It really is quite telling how many people were rewarded for their cooperation in this cover up.
- unreg, on 05/17/2008, -5/+2New foil hat?
- ADigbySellers, on 05/17/2008, -7/+1Gee, it really is amazing that the Bushes didn't burn this! As conspirators, they must have overlooked it. Talk about luck. This is a real breakthrough. Wow.
An angry little insignificant troll with a mail order rifle killed a great man and changed history. Kind of boring but that is what the real evidence supports. We all want the truth. Sometimes it isn't very exciting.- spawnfree, on 05/17/2008, -0/+3i think i speak for most with a long hard laugh at this notion.
they lost the presidents brain.
"oops arent we idiots. hurr hurr."
no.
no they are not. - ADigbySellers, on 05/18/2008, -0/+0Don't assume you speak for most unless you are referring to most conspiracy "enthusiasts". Don't assume that because we disagree I must be mentally deficient.
As 8 year old I saw JFK in person on September 25, 1963. He was our hero and we were devastated at his loss. In a slightly veiled attempt at avenging his murder and getting to the truth I found myself researching EVERY JFK conspiracy theory for just about 40 years.
JFK, RFK, MLK, Fake moon landing, 9-11 take your pick. Throw out an unprovable fabricated factoid and then speculate on the what if's. It's an industry and an outright meal ticket for some. Mark Lane proved this to me at a lecture in 1974 but I looked the other way and continued to believe him and the growing conspiracy community.
I used to believe just about all of it. Now I don't. Not even a little. Finally I am satisfied that we know the truth about what happened and it isn't very complicated. I'm using my brain now instead of my aching heart - but my heart still hurts.
- spawnfree, on 05/17/2008, -0/+3i think i speak for most with a long hard laugh at this notion.
- jerrycurley, on 05/17/2008, -9/+3My god Digg...this ***** comment is standing at +23? Come on!
- AlaskaLoneWolf, on 05/17/2008, -2/+2Who's keeping score? Point is, why did it take this long? There must be some sorta money deal waiting in the wings. Besides JFK had a LOT of enemies, surprising part is that more bullets weren't flying; or the astonishing part that he was even being drivin' through anywhere in a convertable.
- LewP, on 05/17/2008, -6/+6Totally agree...it would have added even more murkey details to an already weired case.
- protogenxl, on 05/17/2008, -39/+41It's as if millions of Conspiracy Nutbars cried out and began fapping all at once.
- plimpton777, on 05/17/2008, -7/+19Yes because everything the government tells us is 100% true, the media has no agenda whatsoever, rich people have our best interests at heart and the Easter Bunny is ***** the Tooth Fairy.
- Lyph5, on 05/17/2008, -6/+3If there was a conspiracy it would be huge. And people who know secrets tend to tell them, since having a secret means nothing if nobody knows you have one.
The same reason 9/11 wasn't an inside job. It would have to be a MASSIVE conspiracy and people talk.- metaliq, on 05/17/2008, -0/+7So massive conspiracies aren't possible, eh?
- swrostmore, on 05/17/2008, -0/+6The committee believes, on the basis of the evidence available to it, that President John F. Kennedy was probably assassinated as a result of a conspiracy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_Select_Committe ... - Alegoo92, on 05/17/2008, -2/+1metalliq- Name one.
- gavinonymous, on 05/17/2008, -0/+2The Manhattan project - not a conspiracy, but involved thousands of people and was kept completely secret.
- ricorodriguez, on 05/17/2008, -0/+2The Manhattan project was not kept completely secret. Read about how the soviets developed their atomic bomb.
- Lyph5, on 05/17/2008, -6/+3If there was a conspiracy it would be huge. And people who know secrets tend to tell them, since having a secret means nothing if nobody knows you have one.
- Borgcube636, on 05/17/2008, -3/+6We'll see who's the nutbar when we really know the truth, which you seem too lazy and skeptical to find out for yourself.
- swrostmore, on 05/17/2008, -2/+7The House Select Committee on Assasinations concluded that there was a conspiracy. So the real "nutbars" (mmm, delicious") are those who deny the conspiracy happened.
"The committee believes, on the basis of the evidence available to it, that President John F. Kennedy was probably assassinated as a result of a conspiracy"
- plimpton777, on 05/17/2008, -7/+19Yes because everything the government tells us is 100% true, the media has no agenda whatsoever, rich people have our best interests at heart and the Easter Bunny is ***** the Tooth Fairy.
- imacbook, on 05/17/2008, -17/+2JFK was not as good a Prime Minister was Winston Churchill.
- Diderotten, on 05/17/2008, -2/+3That's probably because he was a czar, idiot.
- imacbook, on 05/17/2008, -4/+1Your the idot.
- Diderotten, on 05/17/2008, -1/+2I was joking. He was the President of the U.S. I assumed you were joking, too. I didn't know you'd be offended.
- WayOfTheIronPaw, on 05/17/2008, -2/+2They fight! They fight! They fight, they fight, they fight!
Fight, fight, fight!
FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT!
The macbook and rotten showwwwwwww!!! - GeekyGerge, on 05/17/2008, -2/+3YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG
- imacbook, on 05/17/2008, -4/+1Your the idot.
- Diderotten, on 05/17/2008, -2/+3That's probably because he was a czar, idiot.
- seanomerta, on 05/17/2008, -3/+34This was top 10 back in February when it actually broke.
- antileet, on 05/17/2008, -3/+14Let the public know the truth!
- Ghoztt, on 05/17/2008, -8/+31Here, I'll make it real simple for you people. Here's why JFK died:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_11110
http://www.john-f-kennedy.net/executiveorder11110. ...- Gumbos, on 05/17/2008, -10/+3So he was killed in 1963 to counter a law that was not changed until 1982?
I wish I could be as insane as conspiracy theorists. It would be fun I think. - elektronjunge, on 05/17/2008, -5/+2You know that thinking this is the reason for assassination or even believing the second story is stupid. It did not go around the federal reserve the U.S.F.G. has always issued certificates for gold (and is still required to do so), they also have the power (from the constitution I might add) to issue certificates for silver.
- Gumbos, on 05/17/2008, -10/+3So he was killed in 1963 to counter a law that was not changed until 1982?
- gklitt, on 05/17/2008, -0/+17Whether or not you believe the conspiracy theories, this is definitely an invaluable resource for examining the whole incident.
- franksalvo, on 05/17/2008, -2/+19Did you see how many PDFs there are? Wow. This is a pretty cool discovery. Kudos to the DMN for posting these. God bless Adobe Acrobat.
- Snakedal337, on 05/17/2008, -3/+3s/acrobat/foxit
Acrobat suck- rossisdead, on 05/17/2008, -2/+2In English?
- jerrycurley, on 05/17/2008, -1/+1It is good that they put the information in PDF form back in the 60s!
- Snakedal337, on 05/17/2008, -3/+3s/acrobat/foxit
- fuzzmello, on 05/17/2008, -6/+18i've already found something that's very interesting. this is texas, and they haven't tried to pin anything on a black or latino.
- terribly1, on 05/17/2008, -2/+17Back, and to the left.
- holtzdoggy, on 05/17/2008, -3/+2Back, and to the left
- TrickyD88, on 08/14/2008, -1/+1That is one magic loogey!
- elektronjunge, on 05/17/2008, -8/+3Hear that, that was the sound of every single conspiracy theorist shatting themselves simultaneously.
- mrjoanofarc, on 05/17/2008, -15/+11Oswald killed a Dallas police officer that same day after the assassination of JFK. Jack Ruby was a not-so-bright guy who thought taking matters into his own hands and killing Oswald would be seen as a heroic act.
For some, the truth is too simple.- zspitfire04, on 05/18/2008, -0/+2pics or it didnt happen...
- d03boy, on 05/17/2008, -0/+12First order of business: Turn these into plain text files
- D3koy, on 05/17/2008, -5/+2This doesn't seem very exclusive....at least it's not *breaking*
- plimpton777, on 05/17/2008, -3/+15Look at this ***** wink at LBJ with Jackie not 5 feet away and covered in Jack's blood. The truth is right ***** here and these knee-jerk reactionaries don't want to believe it.
http://www.jfkmurdersolved.com/images/wink.jpg- Jesse, on 05/17/2008, -3/+5That proves that... LBJ was kind of an *****?
- ADigbySellers, on 05/17/2008, -2/+3I thought so 40 years ago when I first saw this photo. Now I know better.
That website is ridiculous. Hey, I have a cousin who knew a guy who's grandfather was in the Secret Service and everyone knew that _________ was _______ and ________ etc. etc. etc. - BelatedHero, on 05/17/2008, -3/+3Talk about circumstantial evidence.
- unreg, on 05/17/2008, -4/+3The guy on the right is definitely checkin out Jackie's ass. I think he was in on it cause he wanted a taste of that.
- Tomson74, on 05/17/2008, -8/+0So according to the 911 conspirators we blame the Bush family for everything. OK, so the Bush family also had something to do with Pearl Harbor attacks to right? Oh let us not forget about the holocaust too. So all the mysteries in the world are now solved.
- Modulo, on 05/17/2008, -2/+6"George Bush's grandfather, the late US senator Prescott Bush, was a director and shareholder of companies that profited from their involvement with the financial backers of Nazi Germany.
The Guardian has obtained confirmation from newly discovered files in the US National Archives that a firm of which Prescott Bush was a director was involved with the financial architects of Nazism. "
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/sep/25/usa.se ...
Take off the blinders. You've been had, dad.- unreg, on 05/17/2008, -1/+1Question is, how many other people were shareholders of said companies?
Wouldn't every person associated with Ford or IBM also be guilty of profiting also?
- unreg, on 05/17/2008, -1/+1Question is, how many other people were shareholders of said companies?
- Jeffler, on 05/17/2008, -1/+2lol @ choosing the one example from that era that actually works accidentally
- Modulo, on 05/17/2008, -2/+6"George Bush's grandfather, the late US senator Prescott Bush, was a director and shareholder of companies that profited from their involvement with the financial backers of Nazi Germany.
- macwac, on 05/17/2008, -0/+2Yippi... i'd thought i'd just read the first document out of semi-interest; group 1 pdf 1 - page 11-15 scanned upside down. Someone had fun at the scanner!
- rowlodge, on 05/17/2008, -6/+1so it was, "jack the ripper" who killed kennedy.
- DarkReign16, on 05/17/2008, -8/+2There is no evidence of a conspiracy in this case, people. All you have is, "I don't know how X happened, therefore it was a conspiracy by the government!".
But guess what, all the ***** you conspiracy theorists have brought up on this topic has been thoroughly debunked. A 30 minute episode of penn and teller could debunk this whole stupid movement, as it has. Not to mention countless other documentaries that debunk the conspiracy claims. But you guys aren't interested in actual evidence are you?- jerrycurley, on 05/17/2008, -1/+1Sorry, but I will choose my debunking to be done with unbiased information like the History Channel did on this subject, and not two magicians who freely admit that their show is for entertainment purposes only and NOT unbiased.
- DarkReign16, on 05/17/2008, -0/+1The history channel also put out a documentary debunking the conspiracy theory that states the government was involved, so there you go, buddy.
- unreg, on 05/17/2008, -2/+2Most of the conspiracy theories can be debunked by grade schoolers.
- swrostmore, on 05/17/2008, -1/+3Hm, Who to believe? The House Select Committee on Assassinations concluded that JFK was killed as the result of a conspiracy...but on the other hand "DarkReign16" says there was no conspiracy. I don't know, the King of Digg.com is probably the ruling authority on assasinations, right? Makes sense to me.
- DarkReign16, on 05/17/2008, -2/+1It was a conspiracy by Lee Harvey Oswald, NOT the government. Just as 9/11 was perpetrated by conspirators of members of terrorist organizations, NOT our government.
But that's just semantics, any way, look up the word conspiracy.
- DarkReign16, on 05/17/2008, -2/+1It was a conspiracy by Lee Harvey Oswald, NOT the government. Just as 9/11 was perpetrated by conspirators of members of terrorist organizations, NOT our government.
- GhostRidr, on 05/19/2008, -1/+1Penn & Teller were a joke. Anyone who is intimately familiar with the details would laugh, as I did. They left out a ton of stuff, and only showed what they wanted to show, to prove what they already believed.
- jerrycurley, on 05/17/2008, -1/+1Sorry, but I will choose my debunking to be done with unbiased information like the History Channel did on this subject, and not two magicians who freely admit that their show is for entertainment purposes only and NOT unbiased.
- nxxm, on 05/17/2008, -6/+1february 22nd, 2008.
oooooooooooooooooooooooold.- CCoe, on 05/17/2008, -0/+1I think three "o"s would have done there. What you did there clearly implies that the story broke around summer '06.
- SpaceRibs, on 05/17/2008, -2/+9Check out this letter, jfk49.pdf (page 10):
"Dear Mr. Ruby,
I am a 23 year old housewife with two young sons and a wonderful husband. I'm writing because I want you to know I'm on your side. Perhaps because you have no family of your own, you put your devotion into President Kennedy and his family. If anyone harmed one of my family, in my grief and anger I'm sure I'd try to hurt them back. I understand your kind of emotion and you have received very unfair publicity...
Mr. Ruby, I do so share your feelings and emotions. Please know that my prayers and thoughts will be with you during the difficult days of your trial. God understands your motivations, surely we can too. Good luck to you.
Most sincerely,
Mrs. John R. Kent"- lhbaker, on 05/18/2008, -0/+1There are tons of those. http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/img/02 ...
This very cool stuff.
- lhbaker, on 05/18/2008, -0/+1There are tons of those. http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/img/02 ...
- MortalynFlux, on 05/17/2008, -9/+4I don't believe Lee Harvey Oswald killed JFK from the 6th floor museum (known as a textbook depository at the time). Anyone who has played Halo that peers through the window and then goes down to the grassy knoll which is flanked by a waist-high wall will concur. The window is just a horrible position to shoot in the direction of the white painted X on elm street that stupid naive tourists stand on to get their picture taken while crazy Dallas drivers are trying to get to work. The wall, however, would be an ideal location to kneel behind and shoot aliens driving down the elm street (assuming this was the setting for a Halo game).
Having said that, I realized after some time living in Dallas that Dallas benefits from the controversy monetarily in the form of tourism dollars. A lot of tourism dollars, bringing money to downtown restaurants and businesses. There were so many people coming to visit Dealy plaza that Dallas County decided to turn the Old Red Courthouse into a museum and created a plaza next to it. There’s only so many tourists that you can fit on a grassy knoll, and I sometimes fear that they will spill over into the street and get seriously hurt.
So obviously Dallas wants to keep the controversy going. I think the only reason these documents were kept the secret is because it showed Henry Wade’s greed and opportunism, as he was trying to get a movie deal. The new democrat DA, having no political ties to former republican DA’s, had nothing to lose from publishing the documents. So he published them in the best interest of downtown businesses and the new museum they remodeled. - gr00vy, on 05/17/2008, -7/+2Holy Crap! Someone shot JFK???? I hope they kill the SOB that did that.
- caleb4mj, on 05/17/2008, -1/+1Me too, my friend, me too.
- swrostmore, on 05/17/2008, -0/+10Section 20, pdf 112 has an anonymous letter to the DA warning not to hold Ruby's trial in Dallas, because he was certain to be assassinated by organized crime in the area.
- t1cal, on 05/17/2008, -1/+8Check Out Section 20 jfk113. Pretty interesting witness report.
- pjpark, on 05/17/2008, -3/+2Documents were found "in a little-known vault in his office?" The vault in my office is quite famous--you've probably heard of it: Its name is Bernard.
- JointVenture, on 05/17/2008, -6/+1Conspiracy theorists lead lives of loud desperation.
- QuorumCall, on 05/17/2008, -7/+2If you're tired of conspiracy theorists who have provided NO hard evidence to back up their preposterous claims:
http://digg.com/world_news/JFK_9_11_Moon_Landing_C ... - MrESaulved, on 05/17/2008, -0/+5Imagine what our world would be like without these bozos in charge.
- scaaven2, on 05/17/2008, -5/+3Oswald did it.
- p51d007, on 05/17/2008, -5/+2Had Kennedy lived and not been assassinated, he would have probably been defeated in 64 because of the bay of pigs and Vietnam. He was (sorry to say this) one of the worst presidents who did nothing (except for the Cuban missile crisis), but, being assassinated, he has now become a "saint" with those on the left.
No wonder Bill "I can't keep my pants zipped up" Clinton liked him so much. He screwed around on his wife too. But at least Kennedy's wife was a hell of a lot better looking than Hillary.- zspitfire04, on 05/18/2008, -1/+2You sir, are an idiot.
- Airjuggernaut, on 05/17/2008, -5/+1After Months
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Of reading this I have discovered who killed JFK!
It was me.
Yay! Arrest me! - groverblue, on 05/17/2008, -3/+2forcing registration
- Virgule, on 05/18/2008, -0/+1yup :(
I can load group 1, 2, 3 and 4 no problemo then it want me to become a member. I can't anyway since it think my zip code is invalid. HA!
it ***** suck - Virgule, on 05/18/2008, -0/+1oh. Figured it out. Just remove all dallasnews cookies... It will only let you see so much before redirecting again. remove again etc etc
- Virgule, on 05/18/2008, -0/+1yup :(
- DarkReign16, on 05/17/2008, -0/+6Oh, and by the way. Here's what the committee ACTUALLY concluded, in it's entirety.
The Committee investigated until 1978, and in 1979 issued its final report, concluding that President John F. Kennedy was assassinated by Lee Harvey Oswald, probably as a result of a conspiracy. The members of this probable conspiracy were not identified. However, the committee noted that it believed that the conspiracy did not include the governments of the Soviet Union or Cuba, nor the FBI, the CIA, or the Secret Service. It also stated it did not believe the conspiracy was organized by any organized crime group, nor any anti-Castro group, but that it could not rule out individual members of either of those groups acting together.- zspitfire04, on 05/18/2008, -0/+2So Soviet Union hits up Castro, Castro hits up Mafia Boss. Boss has inside connections to FBI, CIA, and SS.Gets it all set up, shoots him from the Grassy Noll and frames Oswald??
- zspitfire04, on 05/18/2008, -0/+2So Soviet Union hits up Castro, Castro hits up Mafia Boss. Boss has inside connections to FBI, CIA, and SS.Gets it all set up, shoots him from the Grassy Noll and frames Oswald??
- lhbaker, on 05/18/2008, -0/+5You know, for all of you burying this as conspiracy fodder, this material is far more important from a historical perspective. This is lost history, and so far some of it's pretty fascinating (Gushing fan letters to Jack Ruby!). Get over yourselves.
- Virgule, on 05/18/2008, -2/+2Redirected to a "become a member" page?
Remove *dallasnews* cookies then resume normal activities......... - OverthrowTheNWO, on 05/18/2008, -1/+3He was shot in the head ..point blank.
Watch the video... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WCc_y5k0n8
Note: The driver out of all the people, turns around in his seat 2-3 seconds before JFK gets shot in the head and then turns back as if he saw nothing. Video disclosed by William Cooper - he gave his life to show you this.
If you want to know how and why, youtube William Cooper.
RIP Bill.- ADigbySellers, on 05/18/2008, -0/+1Uh, he heard the first shot coming from behind. Just like Connelly heard it and was turning around to look behind when he got shot. The driver actuall hit the brakes prior to the head shot because he saw Clint Hill running towards the back of the car.
"....and then turns back as if he saw nothing". WTF???
He was driving the car with the president in it! He damn well better be looking forward!
- ADigbySellers, on 05/18/2008, -0/+1Uh, he heard the first shot coming from behind. Just like Connelly heard it and was turning around to look behind when he got shot. The driver actuall hit the brakes prior to the head shot because he saw Clint Hill running towards the back of the car.
- verbalizzum, on 05/18/2008, -0/+0IN CASE THIS ISN'T POSTED YET....WATCH. http://youtube.com/watch?v=9WCc_y5k0n8
- ADigbySellers, on 05/18/2008, -2/+0Criminy! This conspriacy theory game has gotten to the point where the Dallas Morning News gets an "exclusive" story on "missing" new evidence that was "lost" in the DA's "little known" vault. Rather than the DA doing something constructive this "new evidence" they share the story with the paper and the paper asks the readers to figure it all out! (aka Let's sell some papers) I'm surprised that they didn't make this into a flippin' crossword puzzle!
As 8 year old I saw JFK in person on September 25, 1963. He was our hero and we were devastated at his loss. In a slightly veiled attempt at avenging his murder and getting to the truth I found myself researching EVERY JFK conspiracy theory for just about 40 years.
JFK, RFK, MLK, Fake moon landing, 9-11 take your pick. Throw out an unprovable fabricated factoid and then speculate on the what if's. It's an industry and an outright meal ticket for some. Mark Lane proved this to me at a lecture in 1974 but I looked the other way and continued to believe him and the growing conspiracy community.
I used to believe just about all of it. Now I don't. Not even a little. Finally I am satisfied that we know the truth about what happened and it isn't very complicated. I'm using my brain now instead of my aching heart - but my heart still hurts. - setec, on 05/18/2008, -2/+1Why must everything be a conspiracy? Why must Digg be used to further every nut job conspiracy out there? Oswald did this. Simple. Get over it already.
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