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- seldon452, on 01/24/2008, -63/+1049Hey guys! Lets all take positions on things with out thinking it through!
- ericduh, on 01/24/2008, -34/+643excellent video. you can see these people instantly realizing that there is such a thing as a gray area.
- BigBenKlingon, on 01/24/2008, -43/+596The looks on their faces when they realize how big of an idiot this guy is making them look is ***** priceless.
- Zippo, on 01/24/2008, -29/+486Personally, I'm pro-choice... but I do have some issues with abortion. Keep in mind, this is my opinion. You don't have to agree with it.
I think abortion is perfectly fine within the first trimester. You should decide within those three months whether you're going to have an abortion.
After the three months, it's starting to become a real child. Unless medical reasons crop up, after the third or fourth month, I think that you should keep the child full-term and (if you don't want the child) give it up for adoption.
I don't think women should be allowed to have abortions after the 2nd trimester is over, unless a serious issue pops up. At 6 months, the child is pretty close to being capable of surviving outside of the womb, you're already showing quite a bit (therefore avoiding social issues surrounding unwanted pregnancy is too late), and you've already had six months to make up your mind...
Obviously, rape, serious illness, etc, etc, should be just causes for abortion.
Either way, it should be the mother's choice. - justinbmeyer, on 01/24/2008, -37/+409I live in Libertyville. It's probably one of the most conservative towns in America. This video demonstrates how religion can prevent people from thinking issues through.
- ZeroOrDie, on 01/24/2008, -24/+343God called me to leave a comment here.
- karenflower, on 01/24/2008, -18/+288If reducing the amount of abortions is so important, why not look at the Netherlands as an example?
"...the Netherlands has the lowest reported abortion rate because of a non-restrictive abortion law within a comprehensive framework that includes universal sex education in schools and easily accessible family planning services and the provision of emergency contraception."
( http://www.womenonwaves.org/article-115-en.html )
But this is the American way, right?
eg. Let's not be diplomatic in spreading democracy, let's bomb them!
or,
Let's not teach good sex education, let's ban abortions and teach abstinence!
:( - inactive, on 01/24/2008, -38/+273I bet they'll come with something imaginative like checking to see if she floats or sinks and then stoning her or maybe making her wear some sort of scarlett letter of shame. That's what jesus would want.
- cnot3, on 01/24/2008, -74/+281They should be punished with DEATH. Life is precious.
- ConradDanger, on 01/24/2008, -28/+219"In all those years of protesting, you never thought about what would happen to the women."
"ohhh eerrrr .... no ...oh dear it turns out I am an idiot who should not be meddling in personal affairs of other people I know nothing about"
- MarkOfTheDead, on 01/24/2008, -16/+185If only the rest of the world were as reasonable as you this wouldn't even be an issue.
- crackah, on 01/24/2008, -19/+184babies have fingernails
- colberrep, on 01/24/2008, -52/+193right wing short-sighted logic at its finest
- pitdog, on 01/24/2008, -11/+120I am pro choice, but more importantly pro EDUCATION. Most abortions are not form sad rape cases, but form drunken teenagers having unprotected sex and no worries, coz it "can be taken care of". No responsibility for their actions, no education.
- GamerVer05, on 01/24/2008, -11/+108I think they probably hand picked which ones to show, but it still makes a good point.
- lohphat, on 01/24/2008, -7/+84He should have asked these people how many kids they've adopted. And if they did what color they were.
- mescad, on 01/24/2008, -6/+81If the intended effect of the law is that more non-doctors would perform abortions, yes.
- Bartboy919, on 01/24/2008, -9/+79FSM told me to reply to you.
- inactive, on 01/24/2008, -7/+71I think it shows that these people are thinking about the unborn children's lives being lost instead of being vindictive towards the women who have abortions.
- swrostmore, on 01/24/2008, -6/+59Their opinion isn't that abortion is "wrong," (a perfectly reasonable opinion IMHO)... their opinion is that it should be criminalized. Criminalization naturally means there should be a penalty for breaking the law.
- Hayaemsay, on 01/24/2008, -15/+67Don't you have better things to do than troll digg?
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Submitted 36 - satanatnmtedu, on 01/24/2008, -22/+73It is possible to have an abortion without a doctor. And, if abortion were illegal, then few doctors would take the risk to perform them. So, try again.
- JigoroKano, on 01/24/2008, -6/+56A clump of cells doesn't have a situation to put yourself into.
Imagine you were a rock... you can't. - octophobic, on 01/24/2008, -7/+56Then it should be legal for me to arrange a murder via a hitman?
- elnerdo, on 01/24/2008, -40/+88Just to clear something up: I'm not anti (OR pro) abortion, but the obvious answer to that question is: "Women shouldn't be penalized for having an illegal abortion; doctors performing an illegal abortion should be penalized." It's not a very hard question to answer.
- markperia, on 01/24/2008, -8/+51Why is he getting dugg down? Seriously, does this even need a sarcasm tag?
- sparsely, on 01/24/2008, -12/+53I am soooo doing this the next time the faith brigade start protesting outside Planned Parenthood here...
- LaughingMan11, on 01/24/2008, -1/+40Every one of these people were quite quick to say (and not with a gray area answer like "maybe") that abortions should be illegal. It's clear that these people would support a law that banned abortion. It's fair to talk about the practicality of enforcement before enacting such a law.
- pilot3033, on 01/24/2008, -3/+42when did god call..
I'm done, god bless you..
ahahaha - madpie, on 01/24/2008, -0/+35You're thinking of the latin concept "makeupus crapus," which was used by the ancient Romans to describe the tendency of people on the Internet to make ***** up when they have no idea what they're talking about.
- FiercestCalm, on 01/24/2008, -7/+42So, you think doctors just give out late-term abortions, and women choose to be pregnant for 6 months for no reason? Late-term abortions are performed when the fetus is severely deformed (ie doesn't have a brain) or a health problem has come up for the mother.
Maybe you should do your research first. - Fordi, on 01/24/2008, -1/+35I think you're lying. I've been talking to God fo the last 36 hours an not ONCE did he say, "Hey, man. Hold on a sec. I gotta call ZeroOrDie."
- anonatron, on 01/24/2008, -19/+53This sums up the video perfectly, I wish I could digg you up twice seldon.
- timbellomo, on 01/24/2008, -3/+36"a growth" would tend to describe a part of the woman's body, not an entirely different organism...
- maddla, on 01/24/2008, -15/+48"Blind Followers" = The problem with our future world...
- lolgamoff, on 01/24/2008, -1/+33Considering that he says life is precious right after he says one should be punished with death for an abortion, I'm pretty sure it's sarcasm.
- billin, on 01/24/2008, -4/+35To add to spawesume's comment, imagine that you're eventually born as a product of rape. You get to grow up in an orphanage with the happy knowledge that your father is a rapist and your mother can't stand to even look at you. Also, you seem to totally disregard the woman in question. In your view, not only did she have to suffer through the trauma of a rape, but she has to carry and nurture a growing part of the attacker in her body for 9 months. Try imagining yourself in her position, rather than in the theoretical "position" of an as of yet undeveloped bunch of cells.
- turpenine, on 01/24/2008, -3/+33it would be innefective because people would die from the dirty treatments like they did in the 70s
- Hayaemsay, on 01/24/2008, -2/+32I recommending watching until the end (if you finished watching before the clips ended), the final one is definitely the best.
- masterm1nd, on 01/24/2008, -37/+66Why would thinking about the punishment change their initial opinion that abortion is wrong? I'm not following the logic that thinking about the punishment should somehow change their initial stance on abortion. By the way, if we can't define when a fetus is considered a human being, then don't you think it would be better to error on the side of caution? I realize there are plenty of circumstances where it's perfectly legitimate and reasonable, but I don't think it should be a substitute for using a condom.
- etnlIcarus, on 01/24/2008, -3/+32I was thinking the same thing.
It's also made me rethink some of my assumptions about a lot of these people. These aren't gung-ho, (completely) irrational, hateful people. They've merely had an emotional reaction to a premise they find disturbing and they've had a similar reaction to the thought of actually punishing women who have abortions. Held in contradiction as they may be, there are thoughtful human beings behind the rather revolting movement. - docbob84, on 01/24/2008, -3/+31The problem is, that doesn't really solve anything. If a woman wants an abortion, she's going to have an abortion, whether it involves a doctor or (sadly) a coat-hanger. With a doctor, at least she doesn't stand a good chance of killing herself along with the baby. People need to remember that doctors who do abortions aren't bloodsucking monsters who like to pull babies out of wombs and cackle madly; they do it because if they didn't, a lot more women would do it themselves and get infections or die. They do it to make the women safer, not to kill babies. Don't punish the doctors.
*EDIT* sorry, meant to reply to DBNKR :/ - T00LB0X, on 01/24/2008, -19/+47*blank stare into camera* (did the guy ever end up asking the man who is "better informed than I am"...joe or whatever..lady made it sound like he was organizing the protest and might have a legitimate answer....? or more blank star3s perhaps)
- greenm1981, on 01/24/2008, -1/+28Then the demand for "coat-hanger abortions" and other less clinical methods would increase. The only way for those opposed to abortion to lower the rate of abortion is to accept that prevention is the best method.
- pintomp3, on 01/24/2008, -2/+29which is why we need to stop this BS abstinence education. it has been proven that it doesn't work, and actually leads to higher pregnancy rates. religion should not influence law, period.
- paranoidbrick, on 01/24/2008, -6/+33The problem that I see with your argument, and I think that this is an important distinction that needs to be made, by stopping the allowed abortions at one arbitrary time you are saying that at that point the fetus becomes a child and I think this point can only be made with some scientific evidence to back it up.
- spawesume, on 01/24/2008, -6/+33Do you realize how hard a life that child would live?
- jonlarge, on 01/24/2008, -11/+38funny that it's called "Libertyville"...
- Fordi, on 01/24/2008, -4/+30Yeah. Tell that to an ex of mine. Well after we broke up, she had gotten pregnant with the kid of a guy she was breaking up with. She gave herself an abortion via chemical means.
In short, no doctor involved. Try again. - docbob84, on 01/24/2008, -4/+30Of course there is, don't be upset that people responded to you. A woman has to think about all of those things, and being a male I can't imagine having to face that choice. What pro-choice people are fighting for is just that: the right to choose, the right to think about those personal consequences and decide "I'm not ready to have a baby, I'm willing to go through all that". Oh, and since you brought it up, all of those consequences you listed are also, conveniently, possible consequences of going through natural pregnancy and labor.
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