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- inactive, on 05/27/2009, -0/+77Price wars = )
No matter what happens, it's all win for us! - jason80, on 05/27/2009, -4/+63It's called "the internet".
Now ***** off. - ByteGuerilla, on 05/27/2009, -0/+55No we're all carrying round 22" laptops, second monitors, and external RAID arrays in our bags.
Of course people are still using desktops you tit. - Awesome101, on 05/27/2009, -4/+58That really depends on your definition on "affordable." Newegg has the lowest end Core i7 for $279. Most people would not consider that affordable or a "budget system type" component.
- Filipp0, on 05/27/2009, -11/+53***** you, two of my friends died trying to run Crysis!!
- ahall07, on 05/27/2009, -0/+35Now all I need is $800
- boozedrinker, on 05/27/2009, -2/+37All of you bitching about them not including the price of a monitor:
STFU - they said "Gaming PC" not "Gaming Rig" - this doesn't imply that a monitor was included.... - ZestyNinja, on 05/27/2009, -0/+31They acknowledge their use of a case power supply. It's not like they're just forgetting about that. Drop the hundred dollar operating system and buy a power source instead (which they suggested).
- greevar, on 05/27/2009, -5/+34The Core i7 is not necessary for the budget gamer and is really only good for bragging rights currently. I would rather put the money into a good graphics card and RAM. So let me bottom line this: Core i7 = bragging rights, AMD Phenom II x4 = budget minded.
- supremedigguser, on 05/27/2009, -0/+29In zimbabwe that setup costs 29,965,421,600 ZWD
- Defiant001, on 05/27/2009, -2/+30Should have been using the anti-static wrist band..
- Bbanda, on 05/27/2009, -17/+43I disagree with this completely. If you're building a new system and not just upgrading this is the time to move to core i7 processing. The low end of the series is affordable and you'll be able to get ddr3 memory which is dropping rapidly in price at this point. This is the time to upgrade your motherboard if you haven't already because there isn't going to be any support for the core series socket in the near future.
- Defiant001, on 05/27/2009, -2/+25yes, now stop asking.
- nirvaeh, on 05/27/2009, -8/+28I got my PC exclusively from Newegg.com and finding deals around Thanksgiving time. Everything including the 22" monitor was $650 after MIR. Everything was free shipping, it just took a little scouting. The only thing I messed up on is I got the Mobo that doesn't support RAID. I guess there's a little "R" designator after the model number, so one of my 500GB drives is just a file dump right now.
Core2 Duo E8500 CPU
9800GT Video Card
4GB RAM
2 - 500GB HDD SATA
Gigabyte Mobo
22" Monitor
Windows 7 - NinjaGod, on 05/27/2009, -10/+28I am twelve, what is this?
- Tyrghast, on 05/27/2009, -1/+16A console? thats cute...
- Defiant001, on 05/27/2009, -0/+14What about keyboard, mouse, speakers, printer, and all the cables? Usually people already have these things and are looking for a new tower to "hot swap" into their existing setup
- Defiant001, on 05/27/2009, -0/+14Some cases do come with good power supplies, but it is rare (some antec and cooler master cases as far as I am aware). There is also bundles, although the case and psu will be in different boxes so it sort of counts.
- alpha19, on 05/27/2009, -0/+13Except most people that have been gaming for a while already have a display (or two) that work just fine.
- zip000, on 05/27/2009, -0/+13I just built a new computer last month - the reason I went with a quad instead of the i7 is that you have to go up in price on not just the cpu but also the motherboard and you'll probably want to get ddr3 as well.
It would end up not just being a 100 bucks more; more like $200-250 more. - Llanowar, on 05/27/2009, -2/+15Besides that, the motherboard also offers only 1 pci-e slot. If you're building a gaming pc it's smart to at least get a mb that offers two pci-e slots so if you have the spare money you can upgrade it with an additional GPU.
Also, with the low prices of current HDDs I would have gone with a 1TB drive instead. Installing a bunch of new games quickly fills a 320gb drive.
I'm positive one can do better for $800. - IFEice, on 05/27/2009, -0/+13^hooah212002
"ATI has opened the CrossFire architecture to Intel, allowing CrossFire to be enabled on many Intel chipsets which boast two x16 PCI-E slots. SLI, however, requires a motherboard which is SLI certified, which includes all nForce chipsets (such as the nForce 590 SLI, nForce 680i SLI, and nForce 790i), and most Intel X58 based motherboards."
It's all a moot point, you can mod a crossfire x board to support SLI.
Oh, I don't know what is the point you're trying to make... What does crossfire have to do with CPU?
That motherboard fully supports crossfire x.
http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Motherboard/Pr ... - redrabbit, on 05/27/2009, -0/+12"Folks have been gaming on portable machines for some time now."
People have been gaming on Nintendo Gameboys for years, so why doesn't everyone just carry those around instead of a laptop? Gee whiz, I guess I don't know why I would want a desktop over a laptop for gaming. - Leezus, on 05/27/2009, -1/+13Normally I'd agree that more pages = bad, but here you're wrong.
The article was well-structured, and the information on each page was ample and organized. The pages also loaded fairly quickly. - jrussmlr, on 05/28/2009, -1/+11239 for the GTX 260? These guys could have made this computer for much less than 800 if they'd just done a little deal hunting.......... this card regularly sells for less than 150
- thinboyslim, on 05/27/2009, -2/+13In the UK that setup cost £639.65, which comes out at $1,015.55.
Why don't they say where they get their kit from? - Nath2k8, on 05/27/2009, -2/+12I'm 12 and, what is this?
- redrabbit, on 05/27/2009, -0/+10Yes, because people like to play games.
- LouBrown, on 05/27/2009, -0/+10Same in Switzerland (from Digitec, it runs up to 1120CHF --> 1030USD).
Having recently left Canada, I can say that the price of computer parts is very cheap in North America, compared to Europe. And almost every PC building guides I read are based on US parts' prices. Which makes these "budget" boxes not as cheap as they appear to be. In conclusion, American PC enthusiasts are lucky. - Adralemechk, on 05/27/2009, -1/+11According to their 5/19 newsletter, MicroCenter is selling the i7 920 for $199. At that price it's pretty hard to say no, considering my E8400 still sells for $167.
Also newegg has some really nice deals on OCZ gold and platinum DR3 1600 ram. $90 for 6GB of some of the fastest ram you can get is pretty awesome.
(Don't buy them all, I'm helping a friend build a PC this summer) - sonicon, on 05/27/2009, -2/+12I would buy
Phenom II 955 for $245 and use win7 rc instead - SchmuckofNI, on 05/28/2009, -0/+9Dude for a little more than $800 I could build a way better system that includes:
AM3 Phenom 2 2.6 ghz quad with a asus mobo combo:$289.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.asp ...
4 gigs of ddr3 1333 memory: $55.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 ...
730 watt power supply:$89.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 ...
Radeon 4870 1 gig:$163.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 ...
500 gig hitachi drive:$49.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 ...
Full Atx tower:$124.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 ...
Dvd writer:$25.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 ...
All for $929 dollars with Vista Premium 64 bit, plus minus the $90 in rebates
For a grand total of $839. - jgtg32a, on 05/27/2009, -1/+10Unless they sign a secret cease fire, then it kinda sucks for us
- getoffmybridge, on 05/27/2009, -3/+12No, nothing runs Crysis ever. They released a game that no system will ever be able to play. Enough.
- specialK16, on 05/27/2009, -2/+10Oh look, ricers are burying you. A E8500 is perfectly fine for budget gaming, I don't see where the problem is.
Oh wait, you are losing a few FPS.... yeah it sucks. /s - overridemymind, on 05/27/2009, -0/+8getoffmybridge -- dugg for First Contact referencing username!
- nonymous666, on 05/27/2009, -0/+8That motherboard does do crossfire.
And as to the 'because everyone needs two GPUs' sarcasm, the poster specifically mentions wanting to do crossfire. - passedoutghost, on 05/27/2009, -0/+8You're still going to have to purchase a new OS when the RC expires.
- K3R5, on 05/27/2009, -1/+9Yes.
- passedoutghost, on 05/27/2009, -1/+8Not possible in Australia unfortunately. I'd probably have to spend at least $1500 to get a mediocre gaming desktop.
- jluebbert, on 05/27/2009, -1/+8I just built this system for around $650 after mail in rebates:
Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R LGA 775 Intel Motherboard
http://bit.ly/2mdrL8
Intel Core 2 Duo E7400 Wolfdale 2.8GHz
http://bit.ly/1aiEZu
EVGA GeForce GTX 260 216 896MB
http://bit.ly/jEVsH
Seagate Barracude 7200.12 500GB Hard Drive
http://bit.ly/ERAOw
G.SKILL 4GB (2 X 2GB) DDR2 1066
http://bit.ly/o9x1c
OCZ StealthXStream 700W PSU
http://bit.ly/lg0ey
Pioneer DVD Burner
http://bit.ly/bR8G8
Antec Three Hundred Case
http://bit.ly/zAqRY
If you order all of these parts on http://www.newegg.com the total comes to around $700, after the mail in rebates you should be spending around $640. I ordered them today and got a free copy of Call of Duty: World at War and a free 4GB thumb drive.
Now there are a few draw backs to this system. If you want the ability to go SLI (have two video cards working together) then you will have to choose another motherboard. Also, you could opt for the GTX 260 superclocked edition to get a little more performance for about a $30 difference.
The good thing about the E7400 processor is that it can be overclocked to run at the same speed as the E8400 (maybe even higher) but there is a significant price difference. The E7400 does have half of the cache as the E8400 though, so if you have the extra cash I guess you can go for it.
Let me know what you guys think. - Defiant001, on 05/27/2009, -1/+8thats nice
- getoffmybridge, on 05/27/2009, -1/+8Guess I should have put a /S..........
- vsaint, on 05/27/2009, -1/+8Microcenter has had the i7 920 on sale twice this year for $200. If you are patient about building your pc, you can snag some great deals.
- Klinky, on 05/27/2009, -0/+6I doubt 460W is too few, people greatly exaggerate the wattage needed. I've tested my overlclocked dual-core E2160(@3Ghz) w/ 8800GT & I am pulling about 225W at FULL load - this is from the wall. Adding two extra cores & a higher end graphics card is not going to break the wattage bank. I am on a 500W Cooler Master Power supply which I actually got for free after rebate & it has performed very well, though I had to replace the fan inside because it rattled.
Also a lot of power supplies need to run within the upper range of their limit to be efficient. If you're only using 20% of the capacity of a 1000W power supply it's not as efficient as using say 50 - 70% of a 500W power supply.
The large power supply numbers come up because the graphics card manufacturers exaggerate the required wattage due to so many shoddy power supplies being on the market. A good quality 460W power supply is much better than a shoddy 600W power supply in that it's not going to blow-up and fry all your stuff & you'll be hard pressed to use all 460W, even with a quadcore and top of the line video card. If you're going to do a dual or triple video card configurations, that may be a bit different and something higher may be justified. - kinseyincanada, on 05/27/2009, -2/+8or you can just buy a $200 360........ oh im just ***** with you, PC gaming is great and im just starting to build my very first PC
- aegis17, on 05/27/2009, -0/+6The entry level Core i7 has dropped to sub-$200 several times already; I've seen 12GB of top-notch Corsair ram for under $10 a GB, and motherboards can be found for under $200 as well. It is very possible to make a top-notch gaming rig with an i7 for about $1000, especially if you don't need to buy peripherals.
The i5 won't be LGA1366, by the way; it will have fewer pins. Also, in terms of upgradeability, i7 / LGA 1366 will be around for many, many years, so now is a great time to upgrade. Get the 920 now, and every year or so drop another $100 on your rig, and you will be top-of-the-line for many years to come.
@greevar: While the Phenom II x4 is a good deal for its price, I have yet to see any evidence of any AMD CPU catching up to Intel's flagship line. In my opinion, you'd be better off springing a few extra bucks to ensure you get on board the CPU family guaranteed to dominate in the near future. - Karstark, on 05/27/2009, -1/+7the same way you play world of warcraft on PS3.
And who cares, PC's are the best thing for gaming anyway. - Slizzo, on 05/27/2009, -0/+6@hooah212002-
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Most if not ALL Intel based motherboards support Crossfire. It's SLI that they don't support. Unless you're buying Core i7 and are using an x58 motherboard. All except one or two x58 boards support BOTH Crossfire and SLI. - RainStreet, on 05/27/2009, -0/+6Eh. I definitely would not recommend trying to upgrade an existing Dell. I tried doing that about 4 years ago when I had no knowledge of building PC's. One major problem, in my experience, is Dell PSU's are crap, depending on the model. So you'll probably need a bigger PSU with the right plugs for your aftermarket video card. Also, Dell cases don't leave much room available for the extra cooling that is necessary for a better video card.
Additionally, I ran into problems with the CPU heatsink, because my Dell had some weird proprietary setup where a standard socket 775 heatsink and fan would not fit.
I ended up gutting the Dell, getting a new motherboard and case, and building a new PC from scratch. Honestly, it isn't worth the trouble. You can get a much better PC if you build your own. -
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