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- mrblue182, on 10/05/2008, -23/+475Reminds me of America's EULA, I think its something called the Constitution, but apparently nobody remembers it anymore...
- inactive, on 10/05/2008, -11/+153Yeah, and look what happened. They asked nicely and where did that get them? People pirated their *****.
You have nothing to blame but the pirates for them DRMing all their *****.
Also, I'm a pirate and a hypocrit, but my point still stands. - SmokeyBong, on 10/05/2008, -5/+136I guess screwing the consumer was more effective then trying to stop the pirates.
Arg! - TTT1, on 10/05/2008, -10/+130Come on EA! Take a lesson from yourself!
- omoshiroi, on 10/05/2008, -7/+118The Constitution? Wasn't that overturned by the Patriot Act?
- Prototek, on 10/05/2008, -8/+115This thing called internet file-sharing happened. Piracy used to be between groups of friends and BBS. Now it's too easy.
- built2spill, on 10/05/2008, -3/+97Sins of a Solar Empire.
- inactive, on 10/05/2008, -4/+93"bringing you the greatest piece of ST software"
It's funny how things change, now they're have to add an H and an I - rawnzilla, on 10/05/2008, -0/+75Don't copy that floppy!
- InfernoX, on 10/05/2008, -4/+59Remember how everyone ignored this and pirate from EA invoking DRM?
- salvadorwii, on 10/05/2008, -1/+45Because inserting securom in a floppy was too hard
- haentz, on 10/05/2008, -2/+40Awwww, Deluxe Paint :) Photoshop of the 80s...
- peckda, on 10/05/2008, -0/+37SimCity did have copy protection. It was a horrible little red card that you could never lose.
http://www.vintagecomputing.com/wp-content/images/ ... - JamesBond, on 10/05/2008, -16/+53"EA said it believed at the time it created Spore that its DRM policy would not present any problems." That goes to prove that EA's piracy team must be "special" and by "special" I mean retarded. But hey, at least EA doesn't discriminate "special" people you gotta give them that.
- SatansMagicHat, on 10/05/2008, -11/+46Are we still talking about this?
- ROFLance, on 10/05/2008, -1/+32Now you're have to remove an R and an E.
- inactive, on 10/05/2008, -1/+29What happened?
I think it's called the Internet, with 10 meg down speed. - RulerXenu, on 10/05/2008, -5/+33"REMEMBER THIS, EA?"
You probably too ***** stupid to realize that it was before p2p and megabits download speeds. I don't like DRM myself, but users should take a hard look at themselves and try to guess why EA and other companies were forced to invent DRM. - Mankrik, on 10/05/2008, -2/+29Sure, pirates are to blame for DRM.
But DRM hasn't stopped anyone, so it's time to move on, EA. Find someone who doesn't make everyone hate you. - uberfr4gger, on 10/05/2008, -6/+32Yeah and in 1985 there was no way you could upload a game online and have it downloaded by everyone before the game came out. Games were also a lot smaller and ways of protecting software were fairly limited. You didn't have much choice other than to say "please don't steal our game." Honestly I, and others, may not agree with EAs use of SecureROM and all but I can't blame them for protecting their product. Its very poor justification to steal the game and say you did it because of the copy protection, at least buy the game and then get a crack.
- robertnealan, on 10/05/2008, -3/+28I thought Bender smoked the Constitution?
- tehpwnerofn00bs, on 10/05/2008, -0/+23Of course, you're assuming that Spore is a better product than Deluxe Paint ST. If it isn't, then their little statement here remains to be true.
I'm just sayin'... - Yeknom, on 10/05/2008, -2/+25They made a Deluxe MS Paint? I'm missing out!
- Stieffers, on 10/05/2008, -0/+23Absolutely no DRM, not even a disk-in-drive check. It's awesome. I can click on the icon to play it and not have to gamble with my hopes that the disk is already in the cd-rom.
- dfsjdkflasjk, on 10/05/2008, -2/+22EA in 1985: Tiny company
EA in 2008: Multi-billion dollar company.
No excuse for what they did with Spore, but at least the environment and variables have changed. - benologist, on 10/05/2008, -2/+21Piracy in 1985:
A slow, tedius process and disks cost money.
Piracy in 2008:
A couple of clicks and you can share something with any number of people.
If people don't want companies to take actions against piracy then don't pirate their stuff. If EA games weren't heavily pirated they wouldn't waste their money and our time on serials and DRM. Trust cuts both ways. - pafema, on 10/05/2008, -1/+20It doesn't have anti-piracy methods and is a top selling game. I think it might have a CD check or something but it's real basic.
- inactive, on 10/05/2008, -0/+18WHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH
- tehpwnerofn00bs, on 10/05/2008, -2/+19That's because no one can read it, and didn't learn about it because they slept though history class.
- CheesyPeteza, on 10/05/2008, -1/+18Everyone I knew that had Deluxe Paint just copied it. So in fairness to EA, their please be honest plan didn't work.
Having said that can't we just have the simplest copy protection to stop joe bloggs from copying the dvd for his mate? No need to go all DRM, if they really want to copy it they will. - omnithought, on 10/05/2008, -1/+16The Constitution: Void Where Prohibited By Law
- spyd3rweb, on 10/05/2008, -3/+18They can read it, but its useless without knowing the historical context and having some idea of the authors reasons and intentions, without this you end up with idiots that think that the right to bear arms only applies to people in the Military.
- WatchDragon, on 10/05/2008, -0/+15I remember the X-com and spear of destiny protections.
"How many eyelets does BJ's boot have"
or how x-com would ask for you get word 3 on paragraph 2 on page 5, in the manual. - mj1903, on 10/05/2008, -3/+17Agreed. Times change and EA has changed to curb the 'threat' however in my opinion they overstepped a little.
I think companies should really focus more on the ethical ideals of stealing like the linked image portrays. Let the consumer do what they think is ethically right don't force them to do it. I hate to bring up Apple but in my opinion they do the right thing with Mac OS X and the accompanying family license. - hauntedchippy, on 10/05/2008, -0/+14You have to admit there's some clever marketing behind that. Because if you don't vote for the 'patriot' act then you clearly are a commie/terrorist/witch. Who cares what's in it, look at the name!
- Phillbo88, on 10/05/2008, -4/+17If people are dicks, EA has to be a dick, that's how it works.
- medfreak, on 10/05/2008, -0/+13The problem is, their DRM is targeted against Friend file sharing, and is doing nothing against internet file sharing, which is easier to install than the legal version. So this point is moot.
- dwninjungleland, on 10/05/2008, -1/+13I mean, if we the consumers had held up our end of the bargain, then EA would have had no reason but to have held up theirs. It's not *entirely* their fault, guys. Also, Deluxe Paint ST? really?
- ism70605, on 10/05/2008, -0/+12One word: dongles
- mickstephenson, on 10/05/2008, -0/+12I had Deluxe Paint for my Amiga and it was awesome.
- radu79, on 10/05/2008, -5/+17Well, I guess their request didn't work too well, or else they wouldn't have the DRM they have now, would they?
- inactive, on 10/05/2008, -10/+22People are still crying about this? ***** hell get over it already.
- bedouin, on 10/05/2008, -1/+13Not sure why someone modded you down. I can't speak for other platforms, but I had to deal with that annoying red card every time I played in DOS.
- reechme, on 10/05/2008, -3/+15Erm...
And I don't know ONE PERSON who had a legit copy of Deluxe Paint on the ST and Amiga, it was always pirated copies, despite the 'polite notice'. So the only people who have brought draconian piracy measures on us are the people who make money from selling pirated stuff. - Abomonog, on 10/05/2008, -0/+11Good 4X RTS game and no DRM. Very worthwhile to check out.
- DigitAl56K, on 10/05/2008, -2/+13Q: How much software have you and the people you know pirated/cracked in the last three years?
That's why EA don't release software with no protection anymore. Back in the day when this was written most of us used floppy disks, the internet was an expensive proposition, and pirated software was not only a click away. Things are different today. There is a massive culture of piracy. Many people don't think they should pay anything to support the hard work of others.
I now await the handful of anecdotal replies stating "I don't pirate software" and "I pay if I use it a lot" from people who don't get the point. - Sendai129, on 10/05/2008, -0/+11Honestly in the last few years... tens of thousands of dollars easily. I make it a point of bragging about this too. I won't try to deny it or make excuses for why I pirate. It's because given the choice between paying for something and not paying for something, I'm going to choose to keep my money. I'm gonna say what most people here don't want to. If we could steal things and have next to no chance at getting caught or in trouble, we would. I'm sure, however, that most people will try to come up with ways to justify it. But I'm just gonna come out and say it. I steal and I find it funny.
Now if I was the one making the games or music or movies then it would be a different story. I'd be pissed that people are stealing from me. But that's just how things work. People look out for themselves before anyone else. And for the people who start going on about how they pay for their media and I'm the reason why PC gaming is dying ect look at it this way. If I personally buy or steal media it makes next to no difference in the long run... maybe 0.001% profit difference. Sure if everybody pirated they'd make no money...and if everybody followed the rules we'd be living in a perfect world. But not everybody acts the same way, and nothing you do will change that. You might be able to convince a sizable portion of people one way or the other, but I'm not going to put in the time required to do that, because I have better things I'd rather be doing with my life.
In the end I don't really give a crap about others. The harsh truth is that most everyone else doesn't either. Which side of the DRM debate you fall on depends on if you're giving your money, or getting other people's money. That's really all it boils down to, what is best for you. Well it's late so I'm going to end my little rant here. Cheers! - Amenbea, on 10/05/2008, -1/+12And yet a full priced game like Sins of a Solar Empire sold incredibly well for a game that wasn't hugely publicized.
- SverigesKung, on 10/05/2008, -2/+13Yeah I hate drm too, especially when it makes my legal buying experience worse on purpose.
As a software developer it makes me pause however. Seeing this message for the first time, the only time, in 2008 it cries out as a plea for human decency and respect. I'm not saying I have never pirated or that the line is black and white. I say that the heartfelt plea is the most effective drm I have ever seen. I want to paypal that engineering team 20 AMERICAN NO VALUE DOLLARS right now.
By the way, I will race you to register worseonpurpose.com!
nice ring to it i think! - mattlohkamp, on 10/05/2008, -1/+11*****, dude, nobody cares! Just report him and digg him down if you think he's breaking the rules.
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