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- RoadDoggFL, on 08/19/2008, -15/+133No.
- daveyWSS, on 08/19/2008, -4/+56Studies show that 83% of the time when you use a statistic in your explanations people will believe you.
- Rock3tsauce, on 08/19/2008, -2/+42I do think that good guilds really teach some things about management styles. Beyond that... It teaches you that a lot of people don't pay attention to the details (so many don't understand the basic mechanics of their class) and expect to have everything handed to them. As far as making you smarter... I think a slightly deeper study might be in order. I think that being a gamer generally does make you more adept at fine hand-eye coordination. The stuff about surgery makes complete sense. WoW also teaches you not to stand in fiery stuff.
- gothelium, on 08/19/2008, -15/+51If being smarter means getting so addicted you wind up ditching your job and your social life to play a ***** video game, sure.
- DickyT83, on 08/19/2008, -1/+26Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa..whoa....whoa. Lois this isn't my batman glass.
- jggube, on 08/19/2008, -8/+33I've played it for 2 years. Short answer is "no". If you want to get smarter, there's obviously better ways to do so (i.e. go to classes and skip the mid-afternoon raid). :)
- Danikar, on 08/19/2008, -0/+22You can learn from any experience, so I find it totally reasonable that you could become smarter problem solving wise from World of Warcraft or any video game for that matter. However, you can also choose to ignore any learning experience you may encounter.
Also anything in excess is ultimately not going to help you much. Redoing 2 + 2 over and over again isn't going to get you any better at math. You have to take on different and more complex problems. - sockpuppets, on 08/19/2008, -0/+22WoW is a palindrome.
Woah, I am getting smarter. - supermanly, on 08/19/2008, -2/+21FTA:
"The vast majority of the discussion participants, 86 percent, shared knowledge to solve problems and more than half, 58 percent, used systematic and evaluative processes, researchers found."
Was it tips on grinding? - fedja, on 08/19/2008, -0/+19Someone's bitter.
- TVarmy, on 08/19/2008, -4/+22Go to lab. Experiment with permutations of your existing data/experiments. Repeat until you discover something. Sell discovery for cash. Work on something else. Go to top.
Repeat until the lab goes out of business, or you die. - inactive, on 08/19/2008, -2/+20Yes, Arcane intellect.
- JanW71, on 08/19/2008, -0/+17Only a few people really discuss anything on WoW forums. Most are braggers and trolls. But few are number crunchers that calculate the best gear build with the best character build so they can calculate the most effective and highest damage output.
But indeed, WoW has a social aspect that strips away any physical repellant so fat smelly housewifes can still be valued and respected members of a group purely on their social typing skills.
I wasted a career when Playing EQ 8 years ago. Won't make that mistake again. Although I do play WoW from time to time, I refuse to invest the time required to "belong to the top" But I know that some of the top players from my EQ years became high valued top executives purely based on their skills to coordinate 80+ people towards a common goal over long periods of time.
Where else, except in an online multiplayer game, does a young person get the chance to lead a group of 50+ people with different interests, skills, backgrounds etc to achieve a common goal that improves the quality of all within the group. In real life, noone will let such an upstart run a project that has so much time and people invested in it. - 7mph, on 08/19/2008, -2/+1460% of the time it works, every time.
- airtonix, on 08/19/2008, -0/+11Where is mankriks wife? lol
- CrazyEddie041, on 08/19/2008, -4/+15"Researchers at the University of Wisconsin at Madison looked at a random sample of 2,000 chat room posts about "World of Warcraft" to see what the players were discussing. The research found the game encouraged scientific thinking."
Chuck Norris jokes are considered scientific now? - TVarmy, on 08/19/2008, -0/+10I learned from TF2 that fat people are harder to kill than skinny people, even if skinny people are faster and can double jump. Then, doctors come up with the obesity paradox. Where's my research grant? :(
- NightRiderkami, on 08/19/2008, -1/+11Surgery is the newest profession coming to WoTLK.
- notwizt, on 08/19/2008, -1/+11Sounds like "going to work", something a lot of people do daily IRL.
- Nuuqis, on 08/19/2008, -1/+10If you loose your self control while playing a game, you never had any to begin with.
Comparing WoW with cigarettes is ***** idiotic, I'm a smoker and I've played WoW for six months on and off, not once have I ever felt any kind of physical or mental withdraws because I've quit playing unlike with smoking. You sound alot like Fox News, idiots such as yourself blaming games, in this case WoW, because you know someone who is ill and instead of doing anything to help this person, you decide to moan and bitch about it. - playuhh, on 08/19/2008, -0/+9This just in... thinking a lot improves overall thinking.
- Gnar04, on 08/19/2008, -3/+11WoW = relationship ruiner..
and since being single is pretty smart, well, problem solved. - Enron, on 08/19/2008, -1/+9paladindrome
- tracespeck, on 08/19/2008, -0/+8WoW is full of problem solving and areas where critical thinking is necessary, however, only a few people use those skills and just pass the resulting knowledge on to the rest of the player base. It's a lot like real life.
- airmaillol, on 08/19/2008, -4/+12I can see it now, "World of Warcraft 101, coming soon to a University near you."
- xGeneric, on 08/19/2008, -1/+9If intelligence is measured by a raging Bear's ability to continuously piss of a hulking dragon, then yes, I am very smart.
- yow1, on 08/19/2008, -0/+7"Yes," says WoW player.
- Piontek, on 08/19/2008, -0/+7the following statement is true
following is spelled following
following is spelled fallowing
the previous statement is false - Koskun, on 08/19/2008, -3/+10I will probably get buried by the recent fad of bashing WoW, but if you even glanced at the math behind the classes, hit rating (melee and spell), defense, armor, SP coefficients, you'd see it isn't as simple as you make it out to be.
Also, while at it's core the boss strategy's are simplistic, getting even 10 people, much less 25, to know them and be able to do them, can be quite interesting. - Logicexe, on 08/19/2008, -0/+7Non players always exaggerate WoW's addictiveness while players always underestimate its addictiveness. Any enjoyable activity can be addictive. In that way wow is not unique.
What sets WoW (and other games like it) apart from regular hobbies is that it's structured in a way that promotes addiction. When you start, levels and gear come quickly. The payoff from playing is immediate and significant, but as you progress the levels get less significant (+2 agility makes a huge difference at level 10, but almost nothing at level 60) and the gear becomes harder to get and more expensive. The game doesn't actually get any more difficult, it just slowly gets you to work harder for smaller rewards. That can trigger addiction as you strive the new "high" of finally getting that new piece of gear or new level.
I wouldn't go as far as comparing the addiction you get playing WoW with something like a drug addiction, but they do share some qualities in common. That said, it's a heck of a lot easier to quit WoW than heroin. :P - inactive, on 08/19/2008, -0/+6I don't worry about dieing. I'm soulstoned + my best mate is a disc/holy preist.
- jacenat, on 08/19/2008, -1/+7best comment yet
dugg - Ryan166, on 08/19/2008, -1/+7MORE HOT POCKETS!!!!!!!!!!
- fedja, on 08/19/2008, -0/+6Speaking as a GM, the average is around 10%. Not including hunters. ***** hunters.
- darkphenox, on 08/19/2008, -0/+6some of the players need it, in the 10 million players only 2 million probably understand the class they are playing
- WhiskeyLemur, on 06/30/2009, -0/+6"Because none of these things are available at all outside WoW?" - No; because video games make them fun and unobtrusive. Sure you can learn the same stuff (and in more detail) with a math textbook, but the point is that kids won't do it on their spare time. There is absolutely nothing wrong with incorporating elements of fun into an educational process (and vice versa).
- icndvl, on 08/19/2008, -6/+11Guitar Hero will make you smarter.
Starcraft/Supreme Commander/C&C will make you smarter.
World of Warcraft takes your soul and keeps it. - solld3th, on 08/19/2008, -1/+6FLAME WREATH!! do not move
.. or the raid blow up - Samohtneas, on 08/19/2008, -1/+6WoW is a dangerous game if you're a dumb ***** who can't decide which is more important, your trip to the grocery or getting that quest line done. Hell, you don't even know what you're talking about, you've never played the game. You're just blathering about something you heard from the media or your friends.
People who become addicted to WoW have no one to blame but themselves. Not Blizzard, not video games, not MMORPG's, not anything. Lost your job? You should have gotten off your fat ass. Running out of money? You (not sure if you get the emphasis yet, YOU) should have canceled the payment.
Why are people these days so stupid? - kingfoot, on 08/19/2008, -1/+6the fallowing statement is true.
the previous statement is false. - rabidbob, on 08/19/2008, -4/+9If WoW makes peeple smartr I'm a freakin geneus.
- cowguin, on 08/19/2008, -0/+5People joke and all about it, but there are many things in WoW that enhance everyday skills. (math, reading, grammar police) Ie, theory crafting damage/healing etc spreadsheets. Everyday things you don't even think about you enhance in. People hate reading, yet when you read every quest, or most of them, you gain quicker reading skills, typing skills, etc that can help you further in a business field.
- sockpuppets, on 08/19/2008, -1/+6I'd dig you down if I wasn't shoveling ice cream in my mouth when I read this.
- douglasr007, on 08/19/2008, -0/+4except you don't get paid
- Portagine, on 08/19/2008, -0/+4I fear your case needs a bit more research before resting.
- diceau, on 08/19/2008, -0/+4To which he added, "I am now head of my guild. Now I give orders to people, not take them."
It is not known if said player is currently employed, does any sort of exercise, or have what Gen-X might call 'a life'. - Navicerts, on 08/19/2008, -0/+4I don't see how the research theorizes that people that play games have "improved hand-eye coordination and cognitive skills" as opposed to "people with better hand-eye coordination and cognitive skills" tend to play more games.
Like anything else in life it also has a lot to do with MODERATION. Most of the people that blast gamers for being fat and useless only look at the extreme. A lot of people actually can find moderation in MMORPG's; but there are just as many that swear it is impossible because of personnel experience (failures to find their own moderation) and second hand experiences. - snyper256, on 08/20/2008, -0/+4You seem like a reasonable, intelligent person.
- Rippleeffect, on 08/19/2008, -0/+4I had a brain fart last night and blew up the raid. Was distracted by the female gymnists last night. =(
- erhanaltay, on 08/19/2008, -0/+4WoW and other similar video games are just another example of how the world is improving. Remember folks, WoW is for entertainment if the kids didn't have WoW, they would be sitting in front of the TV watching Gilligan's Island. At least WoW requires some input by the player.
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