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- Archaic1, on 10/11/2007, -1/+49The science behind it is great and all, but can anyone really say they're surprised?
- Boshow, on 10/11/2007, -3/+49Another study that belongs under the "no *****" catagory.
- HCJfilms, on 10/11/2007, -1/+30Pardon the pun, but isn't this a no-brainer?
- echolalia, on 10/11/2007, -1/+27Just look at Mike Tyson.
- smithro1984, on 10/11/2007, -3/+22does a bear ***** in the woods?
- lhospital, on 10/11/2007, -1/+18"something no boxer cannot avoid over the years"
submitter box much? - floridiot2, on 10/11/2007, -2/+17Nonono, it's does the Pope ***** in the woods?
- rstarr, on 10/11/2007, -2/+15New study shows drunk women more fun to study-
Details at 11. - griz, on 10/11/2007, -10/+18They have it all wrong. Boxing REQUIRES brain damage.
- geronimo, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8Boxing - causes brain damage
Soccer - causes brain damage (heading ball)
Swimming - causes asthma (chlorine)
Guess it's just cycling at the gym, except the seats could cause impotence. Being a hypochondriac is tough these days. - mwosh, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7Allow me to rephrase,
"Does allowing another individual to repeatedly hit you in the face for long periods of time cause damage to the organ housed directly behind said face?" - codegator, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6How do I get a job conducting one of these silly studies? Oh yea, get a PHD and a government grant!
Yea, another brilliant use of taxpayer funded research. Hey, it's not like we're still trying to solve Cancer or anything - right? - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -2/+8One of the pillars of boxing is not getting hit..making your opponent miss, if you will. If you're good enough at that and know that this is a young man's sport (retire early while you're at your peak) then you might come out ok. See Mayweather Jr.
It's kind of like Tiki Barber deciding that he wants to retire early because he sees the effect that a long pro football career has on a man's body. Fans might be pissed, but you can't fault the guy for not wanting to need a walker to move around at 40 years old due to the completely disentigrated ligaments in his knees, ridiculous arthritis, etc. compounded over a 10-15 year career.
Make as much money as you can and get the ***** out while the getting's good..like corporate america. - Wenz, on 10/11/2007, -5/+10Is the Pope Catholic?
- Octanum, on 10/11/2007, -3/+8http://img42.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=77427_Eearios_122_889lo.jpg
- MadMaxx426, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5I usually don't resort to using the word "duh" ...but...ummm...
- geronimo, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5Given the use of soccer this is probably a US scientists observing recreational soccer, in professional-level 'football' as they say, the ball that is headed at a much higher velocity. Studies repeatedly show that at this level, brain damage occurs.
- gazwilwah, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4I think you're quite safe boxing unless you happen to bump into someone like Mike tyson.
- Seifey, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5Next you're going to tell me that smoking causes cancer!
- heedmyword, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4"The same study that looked at amateur boxing also investigated soccer players and found no association between repeated ball-heading and brain damage."
Tell that to Zinedine Zidane. - 83457, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4I believe he was actually a crack baby.
- knulpm, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3My neuroscience professor told me an interesting story.
Someone was doing Parkinson's research and he was trying to grow up some of the neuronal cells found in the Substantia Nigra (that part of the brain that deteroriates in Parkinson). However, he kept having a problem with his culture's dying. He tried to isolate whether it was the medium or the temperature or whatever, couldn't figure it out.
Then he discovered a lab technician was a little rough with the cultures. Put them down a bit forcibly, etc, just wasn't very gentle with them. Turned out when they were more gentle, they'd grow. The physical trauma was causing them to deteriorate. Thus, explaining the "Pugilist's Parkinsons" as shown by Ali.
Not sure if it's true or urban legend, but kinda neat. - 0ceanic, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3DUH.
but seriously...
chances are this wasnt what the study was meant to find. in all likelyhood, this was just a mini study to verify the basis of something more important. such repeated brain trauma affacts alzheimer's. or something along those lines.
for example: theres was once a multimillion dollar study as to why a full moon increases the trauma traffic to emergency rooms. no one found out why. anyway it turned out it was just perception, ER trauma traffic didn't increase on full moons. and several million dollars was wasted.
so they probably just want to study people with repeated brain injuries. boxers seem to be good candidates who are otherwise in very good health. they would be ideal guinea pigs for a controlled experiment. - briLo, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4In a new study, boxing causes no Drain Bamage whatsoever!
- Wereling, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3Very true, but this is still worth pointing out. The ongoing issue of brain injury is one of the reasons (and maybe one of the biggest reason) that Boxing has lost a lot of its popularity in the United States. Think about it: most of us respect Muhammad Ali, yes? Would you want to be him now? Me neither.
I've seen it suggested that the use of gloves is one of the leading causes of brain injury in boxing, since it changes the mechanics of the boxer's punch without much reducing the overall force the brain itself is subjected to, but I have no idea if it's true or not. If I were a boxing organization, it's maybe the biggest issue I'd be looking to fix to help bring boxing back into the mainstream, along with unification of organizations and preventing the financial pillaging of boxers. - synthsrkl, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Apparently a new study also shows that sniffing solvents damages your brain too! who would've thought!
- rossendryv, on 10/11/2007, -3/+5One of the biggest problems is boxers trying to make weight and dehydrating. The first place they loose the water is in the brain and its the only thing protecting the brain from smashing against the skull. If the commission would monitor the weights a week before weight-in and only allow a certain percentage of weight to be dropped, this would help the health of the boxers
- GenVoss, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2http://youtube.com/watch?v=F53yYnjVA-Y
- ksponge, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3@griz (#6797260)
I'd like to see you say that to any boxer. Look at the keyboard jockey talking crap about fighters!!! Go eat some donuts buddy. I ***** guarantee there are many fighters more intelligent than a lot of people on digg. In bjj, you need to chain techniques together depending on the situation. Like chess. You make a bad move, you're done. Being shifty and pulling off unexpected techniques takes intelligence. But I bet you're smart enough to get your black belt on day 1 eh? ***** slow, out of shape, probably ugly ***** too. I'd own you any day. - walkingdogs, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Thank you Dr. Obvious.
- FearlessFreep, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3The only purpose for the gloves is to cut down on the number of cuts so you don't have as much blood spilling so you can get the fights sanctioned.
With gloves you can punch harder because it doesn't hurt as much and you don't risk screwing up your own hands as much - SixAteSix1824, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Well even if it does cause brain damage ( which is an obvious ), its still a damn fun sport.
- flyhunnie7, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2yeah, I hear he was a Rhodes Scholar before he started boxing...
- Wootery, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1"Well, brain DO regenerate."
Empirical evidence (ie all the screwed up boxers) indicates that this doesn't really matter. - elhaf, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2The only people who don't know that boxing causes brain damage have been brain-damaged by boxing.
- nevaseez, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1ban boxing? thats what they are calling for, hey if that means more MMA fights (which are much safer in regards to long term brain damage) let's do it!
BAN BOXING!!!!? i want a f'cuking ban on BANS! - Suplyndmnd, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I boxed for years and never had any problems.
I boxed for years and never had any problems.
I boxed for years and never had any problems.
I boxed for years and never had any problems.........
I boxed for years and........... OOH! An article! - FearlessFreep, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3or speak english?
- JigoroKano, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I'd be very interested in a comparison to K1 or Thai boxing where you can win from leg kicks and MMA where you can win from submissions and there are no stand up rules after getting knocked down.
I'd also be very interested in a comparison to the various positions in American football. NFL linemen must be accumulating lots of brain injury as well.
I'm also surprised nobody has mentioned Riddick Bowe. Ali may have gotten Parkinson's like symptoms, but Bowe became mentally retarded. I'm not sure which is worse. - HydraulicToast, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1does getting hit repeatedly in the head cause damage to the brain?
come on people, lets cure cancer first. - Craig42, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1A lot of people talk about UFC fighting being so dangerous, when really it's not compared to boxing. UFC is so much safer. They don't stand there for 12 rounds taking an over sized boxing glove to the head every few seconds. When they get hit, it's by a human hand
- M4tt3r, on 10/11/2007, -4/+5He could have had been brain damage before hand as well? I mean, he did get [into] boxing in the first place.
- phyle, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2I accept your challenge to a fight, meet me behind the shed after school. It is on.
- MacintoshSauce, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1One word...
DUH! - ksponge, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1@craig42 (#6800031)
They wear 4 ounce gloves man. - maeon3, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2I always laugh when people use the word "Risk" to denote anything ranging from mildly annoying to absolutely life threatening.
- ksponge, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1@xiojqwnko (#6801433)
Crocop just got KO'd by a UFC fighter that I train with so, I'd revise your statement man. - funkytommyman, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Rocky, you've got the eye of a tiger and the IQ of a lima bean!
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3In related news, a group of researchers with too much grant money and a strong contrarian streak have concluded that getting bashed in the head a few thousand times is, in fact, good for you.
- JigoroKano, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1That's not all of what makes MMA safer than boxing (for the brain, it is not safer for the rest of the body).
1) There are many more ways to win than by punching someone in the head: submissions, lay and pray, leg kicks, and way more body shot KO's.
2) You don't get stood back up with an 8 count after getting knocked down
3) As you say, you don't fight for 8-10 rounds with big gloves, but for 3-5 rounds with small gloves. This makes for less accumulated brain injury. -
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