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- inactive, on 08/09/2008, -50/+203Georgia may pull its 35-strong Olympic team out of the Beijing Games because it bombed the ***** out of innocent Ossetians and Russia moved in to stop them
Fixed that for you - Spudster, on 08/10/2008, -23/+130...and Russia moved in to stop them by bombing the ***** out of innocent Georgians far away from South Ossetia.**
Fixed that for you - MrIvan, on 08/10/2008, -25/+109Georgians should be kicked out! Playing some crazy drama, started shooting people and then asking Russia to stop shooting. WTF?
Just some info:
Georgians have been killing Ossetians for 20 years now. Russia is not backing anyone there, they are doing a PEACEKEEPER mission for almost 15 years there and according to the UN agreement they MUST assist the side if it got attacked. Georgia attacked Ossetia on 08/08/08 killing 1500 civilians by DIRECT fire, killed 20 Russian peacekeeper soldiers. According to international law Georgia has broke the UN agreement anf Russia has an absolute legal right to assist the attacked Ossetia.
What is really sad is the disproportionate media coverage from US and Europe. The only thing they show is Georgian president speaking English how they did not do anything and got attacked by Russia, WHAT A NON-SENSE! Georgia is crying crocodile tears and constantly lying about most of the stuff. - iamtehwinnerz, on 08/10/2008, -4/+62Though this war is bad situation, at least the Georgia vs Russia boxing match will be ***** awesome.
- Rizoh, on 08/09/2008, -4/+49What difference will it make?
- Spudster, on 08/10/2008, -5/+45While you're right that Georgia is not innocent by any means, don't think that the Russians are being any more noble. They smell a chance for a land grab and that's exactly what they're doing.
Sadly the wars of today are not the conveniant Star War's esque battles of good and evil that we like to think of them as. Neither side is inherently justified in this conflict. - DiggMasterJ, on 08/09/2008, -3/+3035 more soldiers to clog Russian guns.
- eyepatch100, on 08/10/2008, -0/+23Poorly written, turned into an article about how many medals China has won.
- lekahe, on 08/09/2008, -3/+24According to the Finnish Helsingin Sanomat the spokesman Giorgi Tšanišvilin has said that the government has decided to keep the team in Beijing. Also president Mihail Saakašvili had hoped the same in the message he sent to the team.
- urfe, on 08/10/2008, -2/+23c0mputar, some sources: Russian air rades on cities and ports in Georgia
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7550965.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7550804.stm - inactive, on 08/10/2008, -3/+18two wrongs don't make a right. they should stop it now that the score is settled.
- Spudster, on 08/10/2008, -1/+15Luckless, I'm not saying the Georgians are justified. All I was pointing out was that this war is NOT one-sided. The fact that Russia bombed Georgian civilians far from South Ossetia is a very significant point about Russia's intentions.
- blackmesa, on 08/10/2008, -0/+12Indeed. I'm sure some people will be aware of the "blood in the water" water polo match between Hungary and the USSR in 1956. The match took place after an anti-communist uprising in Hungary was violently suppressed by Soviet tanks and air-strikes. Similar stuff has happened before, so it would be interesting.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_In_The_Water_ma ... - inactive, on 08/10/2008, -3/+13pull out lol
- ssulistyo, on 08/10/2008, -2/+11Remember that the US was and is heavily backing Georgia: http://digg.com/world_news/Did_the_U_S_Prep_Georgi ...
So, take this into account when consuming western and especially US news media. - caveman84, on 08/10/2008, -5/+13This headline is ridiculous , Russia DID NOT attack Georgia, get your facts righ u MORON
- PrvtPenguin, on 08/10/2008, -0/+8I've been impressed actually with the balance of comments here, considering most of the western press is trying to paint Russia as the attacker. Diggers seem to have a better idea of the facts than the newspapers.
On the Olympics question. Georgia has some nerve. They attacked South Ossetia on the opening night of the games so they shouldn't expect much help or sympathy from the Olympic committee. As the article says, there is an unwritten rule about hostilities during the Games, Georgia broke that. - Paulish, on 08/10/2008, -2/+9But I was taught pulling out is not a good method to use. Those swimmers are just too determined.
- luckless, on 08/10/2008, -3/+9Technically Russia has officially said that it has no plans at all to take over any land due to this conflict, so the whole theory of a land grab goes out the window.
Granted there is a chance that South Ossetia will join Russia if given the chance, but it has wanted to do that ever since the beginning of the 1990's when 95-58% of Ossetians voted for independence from Georgia.
In any case I do agree that there is no clear cut good or evil in any war but I gotta say Georgia is a few shades darker compared to Russia in this conflict. - akashiii, on 08/10/2008, -22/+28Georgian propaganda machine at work again - first they attack Ossetia and then they claim to be victims
- eigenweasel, on 08/10/2008, -0/+6Perhaps the Georgian athletes will leave on the midnight train.
- loganisamonkey, on 08/10/2008, -0/+6Why is everyone worried about Georgia pulling out? We still have 49 other states. Georgia shouldn't have that big of an effect on our team.
/sarcasm - idastheman, on 08/10/2008, -0/+5@johanm... The same thing that gives the US the right to pick and choose which parts of the world they can manipulate into their own interests.
- DaDrake, on 08/10/2008, -1/+6If you read about their history in the last 5-7 years, Russia has done EVERYTHING possible to harm their economy. Essentially, they want to prove to the world that the state is unable to survive on itself (something they been saying for years). Therefore, they will need their "assistance".
Russia military presence basically placed Georgia in a very tough spot. Russia wanted this conflict to start because it benefits them. The reason why this esculated so quickly was because Georgia, that pesky-little state who think they aren't part of the USSR (silly them), wants to join NATO. Russia hates this..... they want the USSR empire back, and they are now re-expanding. - rento, on 08/10/2008, -7/+11Russia to own our sorry ass.
Energy independence, for all countries, should be a priority to avoid large scale conflicts. Russia will win this round, no one will try to stop her as this will mean a huge diplomatic disaster. Putin has always had a not-so-secret totalitarian agenda and I believe the worse is yet to come ( aggressive increase in petrol prices and whatever that will mean in terms of power ).It is enough having America playing the petrol whore now with Russia the game is even but creepy. - Colesif, on 08/10/2008, -0/+4Can they pull out of South Ossetia instead?
- hugolp, on 08/10/2008, -0/+3They have allredy anounce that finally they are staying.
- Hartley1942, on 08/10/2008, -1/+4Dont punish the athletes. The Olympics is a once in a lifetime chance.
- luckless, on 08/10/2008, -1/+4South Ossetians votes 95-98% in favor of separating from Georgia back in the early 1990's. You mean to tell me that Russia has been exporting Russians into South Ossetia for that long, and also managed to get them all Georgian citizenships so that they would be allowed to vote.
Wow, such strategy I thought I would never see from Russia, you're giving the Russian government way too much credit with your little conspiracy theory. - hugolp, on 08/10/2008, -0/+3Dont give ideas... But Bush is too busy destroying Iraq and Afganistan so I dont think he is going to do anything about it. At least in the short term. Putin is free to conquer Osetia and Abajsia, and take it from Georgia.
- tehxen3, on 08/10/2008, -7/+10Russia? Yeah.
- johanm, on 08/10/2008, -7/+10Russia has continually given military and political aid to guerrilla groups in Georga whos committed many acts of violence.
What gives Russia the right to pick and choose which parts of the world they can manipulate in to their own interests?
get your f*cking story straight and go fix something understand. - vawksel, on 08/10/2008, -0/+3If Georgia pulls out, what about Florida? New York? California? THE REST OF THE GOD DAMN STATES?
- PrvtPenguin, on 08/10/2008, -0/+3To be fair, when the Georgian President announced a ceasefire on Thursday, his army launched their main attack. That's probably why the Russians are ignoring him.
"Georgia launched its offensive on the insurgents late on Thursday, just hours after Mr Saakashvili had announced a unilateral ceasefire to end a week of skirmishes"
http://www.independent.ie/world-news/europe/georgi ... - gasoline, on 08/10/2008, -1/+4South-Ossetia is not "other state" and there is absolutely no confirmation of figure 1400 from reliable sources.
As little as Russian media shows alledged civil victims, they are almost always males aged between 20 and 40. Makes me suspicious. - alexlavr, on 08/10/2008, -0/+3I am quoting someone else here but you need to know this--
Let's see some facts and how it present on US media.
Facts:
1. Georgian army invaded South Ossetia and kill 1500 civilians (2% of all South Ossetia population) and kill more then 10 peacekeepers in first day of war. Before Russian army come.
2. 30000 refugees goes to Russia and ask protection, no one goes to Georgia.
3. South Ossetian capital completely destroyed (with civilians inside) by Georgian heavy weapon.
4. Georgians used "Grad" (reactive artillery systems) to destroy Tshinvali. This is not "precision weapons". "Grad" destroy all and kill everybody on square kilometers.
5. Only after all this happened Russian army come South Ossetia and start destroying Georgian military objects.
6. World media begins company about Russian Aggression. May be there some civilians killed by Russian weapon when they fight military objects on Georgia. It's bad. Very bad. But it's far far from 1500 civilians killed by Georgians in first day and 500 civilians in 2nd day.
7. There is no any oil pipeline on South Ossetia. But Georgia have oil pipeline on their territory.
8. Georgia ally of US. South Ossetia ally of Russia.
It's facts.
What say American politics:
1. Russian response 'disproportionate'
2. Russia must go out
(if 1500 civilians killed by Georgia at first day, how much they kill if Russia go out? politics do not care about that. They care about "who is our ally" but not "who kill 2000 civilians by 2 days")
What say media:
1. Russia invades Georgia
2. Georgia forces seek cease-fire
(seek cease-fire, after killing 2000 civilians!!!)
3. Russian warplanes target Georgia
4. There many pics in world media from Georgia and nothing from South Ossetia
(nothing about real facts, looks like it Russian invades - technically it's not lie, but they hide true)
And some questions:
1. What a hell with this world happen? Why real genocide with 2000 dead people is not interesting to world media.
2. People, please, why you so love story about Russian aggressors? Why you dont see who is real aggressor?!
3. I understand that Georgia is your ally. But when your ally make genocide why your media support it? - PrvtPenguin, on 08/10/2008, -0/+3Well it wasn't trucks but planes and 2x the number as have just been killed in South Ossetia, and yes, the US *did* take it as an excuse to invade a few places - remember?
- gasoline, on 08/10/2008, -1/+4Yea, Russia was, like, watching olympics, man!
- BabyWookie, on 08/10/2008, -0/+2Which large country hasn't? Seriously?
- Ravatar, on 08/10/2008, -1/+3Exactly, the entire world is asking both sides to lay arms an discuss the matter.
US is telling Russia to GTFO now or bad stuff will happen. Stupid ***** US government. - insurgente, on 08/10/2008, -3/+5Ah, sod off you Russia-bashing liberal meatheads. Georgia is a police state, and a liberal one at that. It's even more repressive and authoritarian than Russia.
Whenever Washington and it's liberal Golden Boys repress their citizen, it's not even mentioned. When Russia, the PRC, Cuba or whatever other "rogue state", "state sponsor of terrorism", "pinko commie scum" do the very same, it's a catastrophy.
The golden proof of liberalism "working", South Korea, is another example, their brutal repression of human rights and trade unions are never talked about.
Georgian government repression:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHxQZmMRysU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aj1hGarg8lk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkEOHVuOJIk - hotpuck6, on 08/10/2008, -0/+2it was called WW2/Holocaust, it didn't turn out so hot for anyone involved.
- Spudster, on 08/10/2008, -2/+4If you were to follow this logic the United States should be kicked out too for invading the sovereign nation of Iraq. Sadly, the world of international relations is not at all linked to logic but instead power.
- MikhaelB, on 08/10/2008, -2/+4Georgia's team should be ejected from Olympic games because Georgia's government started WAR in 1-st day of Olympiad!
- arjie, on 08/10/2008, -1/+3It's a sports competition. Those athletes have done nothing to be blamed for anything else. That's ridiculous.
- inactive, on 08/10/2008, -0/+2I like how they tied Chinese gold medal hopefuls into an article about Georgia being invaded by Russia. Awesome journalism!
- PrvtPenguin, on 08/10/2008, -0/+2This is just another publicity stunt. The Georgian President will say anything to get on the news at the moment. Follow the claims about them pulling out of Iraq (withdrawing within 3 days apparently). Who wants to bet the troops are still there this time next week. It's all PR moves to grab attention, expect more over the next few weeks until the world's press gets bored with it.
- homersaysdoh, on 08/10/2008, -1/+3Native Georgian here. You hit the nail on the head with your stereotype. As I was sitting here reading this comment on my 40" LCD HDTV, that I have connected to my computer, I couldn't help but think "How did he know my name was Billy Joe Bob?" We are all a bunch of back-woods hillbilly rednecks in Georgia. We have no paved roads, electricity or indoor plumbing. I rekon i ort to not be talkin down to fancy city folk like urself cus you might give me a gud whoopin'!
- Cameljock, on 08/10/2008, -3/+5Cool. On a totally different tangent, the "Russia Today" news network is, after watching many videos of them on YouTube, to me seems now as simple Russian propaganda. They talk about Georgian genocide, but the ***** president of Georgia is shouting at them on live tv for cease fire and peace, but Russian aircraft continue to bomb villages nowhere near the conflict zone. My source is this: http://rbnexploit.blogspot.com/2008/08/rbn-georgia ...
- getbusylivin, on 08/10/2008, -0/+2He's not a moron...he's attempting to manipulate people into believing what he wants them to believe, regardless of what the knowable truth is.
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