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New AACS Key - More Censorship from Digg

flickr.com — A story JUST hit the front page about the AACS key, It was dugg up fast, Very fast... And guess what happened? It is shutdown fast... You say "Oh it was buried"... Wrong, Search for it... The story is not even showing up in the "Buried Stories" results. Thanks, Digg... You know how to censor people. New key: 455FE10422CA29C4933F95052B792AB2

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  • z00k, on 10/11/2007, -3/+23Link to Digg Article: http://digg.com/security/455FE10422CA29C4933F95052B792AB2_AACS_Processing_Key
    Link to Original Facebook Group (Over 11.6k Members): http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2338184677
    • TomPlansMedia, on 10/11/2007, -12/+32yeah, i buried it as lame. i wouldn't be surprised if enough other people did the same thing and that took it off the front page.
    • andrewcod, on 10/11/2007, -10/+9Oh great. Here we go again...
    • GraceMolloy, on 10/11/2007, -5/+9Guys, the first time the code was in a COURT DOCUMENT. Doom9.org does not extend the same kinds of public information rights that legal documents have. You can't honestly expect them not to remove these stories.
    • Abenzio, on 10/11/2007, -6/+10Buried as lame.
    • TheCaptainJS, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4There are multiple stories that arent searchable, like the woot one which disappeared quickly and was not searchable, but you could still link to it.


      Edit: *****, I guess this one falls under that category too.
    • retral, on 11/08/2007, -7/+13You people posting this are idiots. It's like you EXPECT digg to participate in something illegal completely knowingly, when they were pursued for the same thing before.

      Are you TRYING to shut down digg?
    • ryanissuper, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2uhh, its the second most popular story right now, right under this one.
    • Yoshi39, on 10/11/2007, -4/+1Did this one just get removed from the front page?
    • deltronik, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2@yoshi39
      to quote tomplansmedia
      "yeah, i buried it as lame."
    • Calcheesmo, on 11/08/2007, -0/+634 -32 - 12 That's my old football locker combo. For all of you interested. Christ...lame
    • totallyAMAZING, on 10/11/2007, -6/+6OMG Censorship!!!! On a privately owned website..... If you want to not be "censored" get a web host and make another crappy blog. Then you can post the AACS key all you want and see how fun it is to have lawyers calling you. Idiot.
    • DigDugDigger, on 11/08/2007, -4/+5Glad to see I'm not the only one on Digg's side here. We shouldn't let one code shut down the site we love, if you really want the code there are plenty of ways to get it without spoiling Digg for everyone.
    • smeagel, on 10/11/2007, -4/+4@retral

      I'm still confused about how posting a hex key is illegal. You can't own a hex key. That's like if the password was the number 138, would it be illegal to have 138 posted? That pisses me off more than anything.
    • sjbdallas, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Regarding the legality, i'm wondering if someone could patent a few hundred keys then sue the when those keys are used?
    • Knucklecallus, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1look, who cares if this is taken off the front page. all it does is get digg in trouble. find this on another site, search for it on google.
    • fl272, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0@Smeagel

      Unfortunately, it illegal. It's what is known as an illegal number. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_number)

      Title I of the DMCA could be interpreted as making possession of that hex key illegal, because the law has such a broad definition of what constitutes circumventing DRM. If you had a good enough team of lawyers, you could make an argument that CyberLink's DVD Software (Japanese Version) and Microsoft's XBox 360 HD-DVD Drive violates part "C" of this (below), because the programmers "that person" were probably at least somewhat aware of the gaping holes in their firmware and software (which allows AACS to be circumvented) that the marketing department "a person acting in concert with that person" marketed. I am not saying that they do violate this law, just that the definition is much too broad and could be expanded to almost anything.

      Note: Those two products by Microsoft and Cyberlink were reportedly used by the people who circumvented AACS specifically because they had vulnerabilities.

      (a) Violations Regarding Circumvention of Technological Measures.—
      (2) No person shall manufacture, import, offer to the public, provide, or otherwise traffic in any technology, product, service, device, component, or part thereof, that—
      (A) is primarily designed or produced for the purpose of circumventing a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title;
      (B) has only limited commercially significant purpose or use other than to circumvent a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title; or
      (C) is marketed by that person or another acting in concert with that person with that person’s knowledge for use in circumventing a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title.
    • fl272, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0Forgot to say that I didn't think it was physically possible, but DRM both sucks and blows. (Paraphrased from Bart Simpson)
  • dpb33300, on 10/11/2007, -17/+22What a shame you would think Digg learned their lesson the first time.
    • canewediggit, on 10/11/2007, -21/+19what a shame, you would think you brats learned your lesson the first time. digg has the right to pull whatever they like (read the TOS you agreed to), you are enabling illegal activity and putting digg at legal risk. if someone submits instructions on how to build a bomb, effectively grow marijuana indoors, steal other people's credit card info, should digg promote it (well, maybe the herb growing tips :-P)? no, they should pull it. grow up. digg is a business, not your personal clubhouse.
    • dbblondon, on 10/11/2007, -9/+6@canwediggit - if you don't get it by now you probably won't ever, suffice to say not many people around here appreciate being told when and where they can view the movie that they have bought.
    • canewediggit, on 10/11/2007, -12/+11i get that, and i hate drm as much as the next guy. what you guys don't seem to get is that you entered in to a contract when you agreed to the TOS, and you have to hold your end of the bargain. digg told you not to post things that violate copyright law, digg told you it reserved the right to pull whatever it wanted for any reason, but you guys whine like spoiled little brats because they actually enforce the TOS that you violate.
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    • NicksVideo, on 10/11/2007, -6/+6tl;dr
    • bluephoenix, on 10/11/2007, -0/+13Most likely these stories are being buried by users who don't want to deal with the homepage spam again.
    • OMGWTFROFLMAOx2, on 10/11/2007, -4/+5which is why you, or anyone else who didn't read the terms before signing up, have no right to complain
    • NicksVideo, on 10/11/2007, -3/+3@omgwtfroflmaox2

      You obviously didn't get the joke.
    • clearzen, on 10/11/2007, -5/+5@canewediggit (#6939724)
      Perhaps you don't understand this site is driven by the users. If you start pissing off the user base that submits most of your stories you are screwed.
      At that point the "contract" entered into for the site is a moot point really.
    • canewediggit, on 10/11/2007, -4/+6the contract is not a moot point. it's still valid. you agreed to it, you have to honor it. just because you don't get your way all the time is no reason for acting like a baby and ruining the site for those of us that understand what 'i agree to the terms and conditions for using digg' mean.

      you don't like the tos? don't sign it, don't use the site. go start your own, www.pligg.com. nobody is forcing you to be here, you are choosing to. and since you made that choice, you have to play by the rules.
    • whahaa, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6i love that the digg terms of service gets dugg down.
    • rzurad, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3edit: post removed by me.

      I was gonna post some smart ass comment about copyright and censorship, but then I decided to grow up.
    • dbblondon, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1@canwedigit

      Last I looked a series of numbers isn't copywrited material so how the hell can it be against the TOS to post it?

      *****
  • cmost, on 10/11/2007, -15/+5Why do you people keep publishing these keys to Digg? Why are you trying to make Digg a party to YOUR illegal breaches of copyright? If people want to seek out this information on their own, let them use Google or find other means (i.e., underground forums, etc.) I don't blame Digg for being diligent in burrying these key postings. It's not news and therefore SHOULD be dugg down, burried or simply removed altogether. Find something better to do with your time pirate!
    • Shizlak, on 10/11/2007, -3/+3Its the fact that they aren't up front about it that really sucks.
  • StillGaming, on 10/11/2007, -1/+14Nice knowing you, z00k.
    • ShadowKlown, on 10/11/2007, -2/+7Lol that would be even worse if they started deleting accounts again too....
    • StillGaming, on 10/11/2007, -5/+4"if"? LOL it's a guarantee.
    • ShadowKlown, on 10/11/2007, -4/+2Heh, not seeing this story anymore either...
    • StillGaming, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2-diggs from the ignorant.
  • Yarnage, on 10/11/2007, -9/+8http://digg.com/tech_news/Digg_Has_Begun_Removing_the_new_AACS_Key_Didn_t_they_learn_their_lesson
  • JD52, on 10/11/2007, -10/+4I say if they are pulling these off the site.... start digging down everything that isn't about this.

  • Shizlak, on 10/11/2007, -4/+2They're deleting comments now too..
  • underdog5004, on 10/11/2007, -7/+1Now this story has been "removed"

    EDIT::Whoops...my bad...hasn't been removed yet, but don't worry, it will be!
  • checksumz, on 10/11/2007, -7/+21Buried. I don't want to see this ***** again.

    Please, stop ***** up Digg, post this crap somewhere else.
  • reticulate, on 10/11/2007, -4/+10Not this ***** again.
  • danakin, on 10/11/2007, -2/+10So censored that this made it to the front page.

    Whine harder.
  • FunkyWitDaSysTm, on 10/11/2007, -8/+345 5F E1 04 22 CA 29 C4 93 3F 95 05 2B 79 2A B2
  • snobrder218, on 10/11/2007, -6/+0You=tool
  • TocsinFilms, on 10/11/2007, -2/+10It got buried because it's ***** lame.

    Edit: It's still on the front page dumbasses.
  • TheNameless88, on 10/11/2007, -5/+0inbeforepulled. kthxbi.
  • Lacero, on 10/11/2007, -3/+13buried, like I did the last lame story.

    there was no censorship, moron.
  • samafito98, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2HERE WE GO AGAIN............
  • LilRabbitFooFoo, on 08/11/2008, -3/+2DRM is dead. The AACS would be wise to find a new business model...and fast. Maybe they could put their energies into something that helps the human condition and empowers artists and other content creators, instead of trying to retard the inevitable free flow of information to the limited and evaporating benefit of a handful of dinosaur distributors as they march themselves to extinction? Just a thought.
  • weside, on 10/11/2007, -2/+9Marked as Spam.
  • DanY, on 10/11/2007, -2/+9Marked as lame
  • pigg123, on 10/11/2007, -2/+8buried as ubbbbbbberr lame!
  • Shaggy6ster, on 10/11/2007, -5/+1This story just got removed from the front page as well.
  • scabbers, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6I have a DVD player, so I don't give a *****.
  • gooddoggytreat, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1Marked as delicious.
  • WickedDrag0oN, on 10/11/2007, -3/+9Ohh for ***** sake. This is annoying, enough with this AACS *****. DO NOT ruin digg for me today. If digg becomes useless today I am gonna be bored as ***** at work.

    - Pissed off digg user who doesn't give a ***** about AACS
  • awtripp, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1@canewediggit

    Well, I strongly disagree with that reasoning. Passing on knowledge is never the problem. It's how the knowledge is used. I thought that was obvious.
  • kablammo, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6Marked as a cry for attention.
  • ahbanks, on 10/11/2007, -2/+0IANAL, but how exactly does posting this key break copyright law? I don't think the key is copyrighted, and use of the key to pull data off of a DVD has fair use.

    It's only breaking copyright when someone distributes this data to others who have not purchased the content.

    I'm guessing what people are referencing is #3 in the TOS, "for illegal or unauthorized purpose". Isn't fair use legal? Does not that concept authorize someone to make a backup copy of a DVD?
  • 1359399, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Errr. No. It's still here: http://digg.com/security/455FE10422CA29C4933F95052B792AB2_AACS_Processing_Key
  • djbon2112, on 10/11/2007, -3/+4Burried as spam. Seriously, STFU. Do you WANT Digg shut down?

    Idiots.
  • tehpcgmer, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1Yes actually shut this piece of ***** down for being the bunch of pussys that they are
  • BishopAzrael, on 10/11/2007, -2/+7I buried that story and this one both as LAME. You loosers dont get it. WHAT THE ***** CAN YOU DO WITH IT? Nothing. There are no people using it. Jesus, just do me a favor, shut up, send the number to DVD Jon and let him get to work and shut up already.
  • griz, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1How many of you who keep posting this number in various places and are rallying to this "cause" know how to use this number?
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