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- otakushark, on 10/11/2007, -73/+411For a state that goes out of their way to defend Christian values, they sure have a funny way of showing it.
- geekchic, on 10/11/2007, -4/+267Reminds me of the time a few years ago where I was attacked outside a shop.
Afterwards I went inside to ask them to call the police - and the shopkeeper told me not to bleed on the floor as it made a mess. - 10goto10, on 10/11/2007, -11/+229If they took the picture with an iPhone this would've made it to the front page.
- newsltd, on 10/11/2007, -8/+152Inhuman attitude towards someone in need of urgent help. More interested in taking photographs! Sick people.
- JoeBaynham, on 10/11/2007, -9/+151*Whips out iPhone* Dont worry I'll call an Ambulance "Ohhhh is that Apple new phone" Yeah it is and look what It can do....
- Stonedonkey, on 10/11/2007, -54/+180From the sound of it, she was lying on her stomach and there was no blood visible. So she just looked like some random person lying on the floor. Despite what you may have read about America, we don't actually step over people who are bleeding to death, so much as we tend to not want to disturb a random person who's lying on the floor.
If you fell down on a downtown London sidewalk and just lay there with your face down and everything, see how long it would take before someone came to your aid. No, really, ***** try it before you spout off in this discussion about how America is full of violent *****. You may be surprised at the results. - d3lta, on 10/11/2007, -21/+94Wow it must have been a real coincidence that she was lying on the floor minutes after a robbery! Lets review this... some random person lay on the floor minutes after a robbery, and nobody asked her what happened and if she was hurt, they stepped over her and took pictures for no apparent reason other than she was lying on the floor. Do random people just like lying on the floor in American shops? You're a ***** idiot...
- Error601, on 10/11/2007, -25/+94Because one bad neighborhood represents a whole state? Do you realize how amazingly stupid that makes you look?
- g30ff, on 10/11/2007, -22/+85@ phenry50BMG & Stonedonkey
Have you considered that he might be an American taking a cheapshot at Kansas, rather than some foreigner taking the piss out of America? - MrJohnDoe, on 10/11/2007, -3/+64Where I come from, Norway, I believe one can be charged, if watching someone being hurt, and not doing anything to help.
- tallulahvulture, on 10/11/2007, -6/+56A classic case of the genovese syndrome
unfortunately it happens all the time
this world is sick.
No one takes responsibility and waits for someone else to. - Jazzillion, on 10/11/2007, -11/+61People have such a sense of selfish superiority. Can't we realize we are all here for the same thing?
- bpick, on 10/11/2007, -0/+44No, it did not mention her race. Mentioned her name though. I guarantee you there are more white women named Steve than there are named LaShanda.
- MikeonTV, on 10/11/2007, -8/+51let me guess, she wasn't white.
- ElCazador, on 10/11/2007, -1/+35If it was me, I would've made a point of bleeding MORE just for that, then bled on some expensive merchandise, and of course never shopped there again.
- evensong, on 10/11/2007, -4/+37If you still think racism no longer flows in American society, you are deeply naive.
LaShanda Calloway was her name. She may not have been black, but she was certainly not white. In a city where 75% of the population is white (you can Wikipedia this fact), its not hard to infer this.
Stop being a self-righteous prick. Grow the ***** up. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -15/+47In this country, you can be sued for trying to help someone and things don't go well. Personally, I would have helped her and taken my chances. The scourge of this country is a combination of lawyers and the ease with which pro-bono cases are filed against people. You're damned if you do and damned if you don't.
- idevlabsdotcom, on 10/11/2007, -14/+45I would've just assumed she was passed out drunk and stepped over her unless I saw a giant pool of blood. Even then, what are you going to do if you're not a doctor other than call the police? I would have assumed the police would have already been called if someone was stabbed in a busy convenient store.
(digg me down) - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -2/+33"The Chicagoist", March 27, 2007
Thanks For Nothing?
The Chicago Yacht Club has found itself in hot water. For trying to save a woman's life.
The club has been slapped with a lawsuit stemming from an incident last March wherein an employee performed the Heimlich maneuver (unsuccessfully) on Claire Burnett Rice, after she choked on a piece of meat. The manuever did not dislodge the food and 911 was called.
Rice died about a week later due to complications resulting from anoxic encephalopathy, a lack of oxygen to the brain.
Rice's husband, Nick, is alleging that her death lies in the hands of the club because, according to the lawsuit, they, "assumed the duty to perform the Heimlich maneuver with due care." He feels that the employees didn't call 911 soon enough. - vhold, on 10/11/2007, -2/+31Before you assume that if you were there things would have been different, you should try to at least understand why this sort of thing is actually common. If you've never been in a situation where your self preservation instinct has kicked in after somebody else has been seriously hurt, you really have -no- idea what it's like.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bystander_effect
Here is the practical upshot:
"To counter the bystander effect when you are the victim, a studied recommendation is to pick a specific person in the crowd to appeal to for help rather than appealing to the larger group generally. If you are the only person reacting to an emergency, point directly to a specific bystander and give them a specific task such as, "You. Call 911." - JimmyTheClam, on 10/11/2007, -2/+30Let me take another guess... neither were the customers.
http://www.kansascity.com/115/story/176623.html
Hey! WE BOTH WIN! - KuJo6784, on 10/11/2007, -0/+28Not everyone needs to lie on the internet to impress a bunch of nerds. She didn't say she was robbed by the Green Lantern and Alec Baldwin on the moon. Nothing in her statement is unbelievable.
- quietbob, on 10/11/2007, -1/+28Spill on aisle 9!
- BHSPitMonkey, on 10/11/2007, -0/+25"This.... oughtta.... *wheeze*... show'em............ bleargh."
- PamalaLauren, on 10/11/2007, -3/+272 minutes to call the police? WTF was everyone doing when the stabbing occured? She was innocently caught in a robbery and no one noticed? And then she's bleeding on the floor and no one still calls? ***** if nothing I would have called the police. Hell I would have held my hand over the wound. HIV/AIDS be damned (the possibilities of getting it aren't that great). But even if i was afraid to help her physically I would have called the police. Even if they got 30 calls on one incident at least I know I called instead of letting someone bleed to death because I assumed someone had called. I mean come on that 2 minutes may have saved her life. What's even more sick is taking a picture? What the hell is that all about? How can you walk by someone injured like that and dying and take a picture? Pretty ***** up.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+24"USAToday", March 23, 2007:
Good Samaritan law may not apply
LOS ANGELES (AP) — A woman accused of rendering a friend a paraplegic by pulling her out of a wrecked car "like a rag doll" may not be protected by California's good Samaritan law, an appellate court ruled.
The 2nd District Court of Appeal wrote in a decision Wednesday that the Good Samaritan law only protects people from liability if they are administering emergency medical care. The perceived danger of remaining in the wrecked car was not "medical," the court ruled.
Attorney Robert Hutchinson who represents plaintiff Alexandra Van Horn, said the state's Samaritan law doesn't require people to render aid. But if they do, he said, they must act reasonably.
Van Horn was in the front passenger seat of a car that slammed into a light pole at 45 mph on Nov. 1, 2004, according to the negligence lawsuit filed against Lisa Torti.
Torti was a passenger in a car that was following behind the vehicle and stopped after the crash. Torti testified she placed one arm under Van Horn's legs and the other behind her neck to lift her out of the car.
Van Horn, who testified Torti grabbed her by the arm and pulled her from the car "like a rag doll," suffered injury to a vertebrae and a lacerated liver. Court documents said that the question of whether she was paralyzed during the crash or when she was pulled out of the car has been disputed.
Torti lawyer Jody Steinberg said he will appeal, saying the Samaritan law should protect everybody.
"There was no evidence that our client was doing anything but trying to rescue a person in need," Steinberg said. "This is a public policy issue that needs to be re-examined by the Legislature." - d3lta, on 10/11/2007, -3/+26Look, even the district attorney's office is considering filing charges (albeit they don't know what charges) against the shoppers, so I really don't understand why you're trying to justify this case? If she collapsed on entering the shop, you'd expect people to help rather than take pictures with their cell phones. Also going by jtmOBX's post, it makes sense to ignore people who are lying face down on the floor if you've just entered a shop, or you would be a ***** idiot.
- ShnowDoggie, on 10/11/2007, -3/+24So glad that you would help a person bleeding to death. So why ignore the person who just had a heart attack or any other issue that may cause them to collapse? Even if the story is full of bias, you are an idiot...
- jaxcs, on 10/11/2007, -7/+28Kansas has been at the center of a number of oddities the past few years ranging from the bombing of abortion clinics to the rejection of evolution to support creation science. This is all done in the name of Christianity. It's a cheap shot at Kansas but the guy has a point. In a state so concerned with morality and god fearing, it fails at basic human compassion. It's ironic and that is the point.
- tehzombie, on 10/11/2007, -6/+27*Beep* Cleanup in aisle five.
- Kindjal, on 10/11/2007, -0/+21Same here in Germany, it is called "unterlassene Hilfeleistung" (failure to render assistance) and will be brought to court.
- Zackypooh, on 10/11/2007, -5/+25I'm athiest, and soz, but you're right, people shouldn't be digging you down.
- xnviews, on 10/11/2007, -5/+25The problem here is the consequences of helping people in the US. I don't think it has to do with US greed. Often helping someone will get you tangled in their problems and could have you being held for questioning, have you charged, or something else you don't want. Today in the US there is no reason to help anyone because only bad things will happen to you. Seriously, no good deed goes unpunished here. So when the safest and best thing to do is to ignore it, why help someone?
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -44/+63It's because she is black
- frogpelt, on 10/11/2007, -0/+18Two reasons for this kind of behavior:
1. People are extremely selfish these days.
2. We live in such a litigious society people are scared to get involved lest they end up with a lawsuit. - newyawker, on 10/11/2007, -0/+17WTF?
- Amablue, on 10/11/2007, -1/+18On the other hand, I _was_ actually mugged by the Green Lantern and Alec Baldwin one day while on vacation on the moon. I swear. Srsly.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+17I guess gromnie got to it more quickly than I, the idiot, could. Not only did I not make anything up, you can see my statement has been supported - unlike yours. Now that you've called me a name and have shown your lack of spelling abilities, please refute what I have stated with FACTUAL evidence of my idiocy.
Otherwise, shut the ***** up. - Conwaysb0718, on 10/11/2007, -0/+16She is a he. Its chic (sheek), not chick.
- pathy, on 10/11/2007, -1/+17Five minutes, tops, and someone would have nabbed your wallet and phone.
- FiP0, on 10/11/2007, -0/+16In france, too.
"Non assistance à personne en danger" is a felony. - Error601, on 10/11/2007, -4/+20Remind me not to stop for coffee in that neighborhood.
- Kindjal, on 10/11/2007, -1/+16Everyone over here in Germany has a basic first aid education. It is part of our education we receive in school. You have to help or you will be charged with failure to render assistance.
- scabbers, on 10/11/2007, -4/+19Those people need to be named and shamed by the media.
- varchar255, on 10/11/2007, -0/+14http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitty_Genovese for reference.
- DarkTranquility, on 10/11/2007, -2/+16Completely agree. Her name was ***** LaShanda... I'm NOT being racist when I say she was non-white, I'm being OBSERVANT. The fact is, she was not white and I'm not surprised if she was discriminated against. This story is absolutely revolting and disgusting to read especially on July 4th. Although I completely sympathize, I do NOT want someone like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson to know about it, because they will only make it worse...
- carbonfree314, on 10/11/2007, -1/+14What's more concerning is that I live in a city right beside this one, and I hadn't heard anything about it. Truth be told, there are some sane people in Kansas, but when the only people everyone else sees are those such as Phelps, it is hard to imagine.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+13The could at least call an ambulance
- lNSTlGAT0R, on 10/11/2007, -0/+13You must be 5 years old if that is the darkest humor you have ever seen.
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