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- GawtMilk, on 10/12/2007, -39/+96Jesus, this is just some proof that diggers are complete and total morons. Instead of alerting people who could actually MAKE USE of the keys, the thirteen year old dateless lowlifes went around saying "09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0" in every ***** thread. Look at the outcomes.
1) HD-DVD encryption keys were changed
2) No HD-DVDs were actually played thanks to this valuable information
3) Digg was ruined for a day, who really wants to see eighty different 'articles' talking about 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0?
4) Regular threads were spammed with the string of numbers.
5) There are only a few HD-DVDs using these keys
6) Who the ***** even has an HD-DVD drive in there computer
Why not wait until more HD-DVDs were produced with the key / more people had the drives?
Why would Digg want the big companies to realize we new the key? What did you expect them to do, think "*****, they've got us now"? ***** stupid. HD-DVD decryption was in our hands, and you ***** morons blew it. The story should never have been posted in the first place. The average Digger had no use for that information. It's not like VLC Media player has an "input HD-DVD encryption key" dialoge box we could've used.
Thanks a lot, *****. Rather than showing the encryption keys to people who could've actually used it for good, we showed it to the general public who turned it into some ***** meme. That's all it is anymore, a ***** meme. We no longer have anything. You morons ***** ruined it.
WE CAN NO LONGER USE THE KEY "09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0". THEY CHANGED THE KEY. - Keyblade, on 10/12/2007, -18/+46Never forget...
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- ConfusedONE, on 10/12/2007, -7/+21Great point. The tin foil hats are on.
It's not a matter of censorship anymore - now its about kids and other fanboys doing stupid *****. Thanks for ruining my night. DON'T EVEN SHIFT THE BLAME BECAUSE OF JAY AND KEVIN. This is all of your ***** spammer's stories. Your little revolution did nothing but to show how immature you are and those who said they would leave - go already. - kerbechard, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13The sad reality is, people who think that because you are sponsored by a company, you are therefore owned by that company. If that were the case, then any site with any ad anywhere is now not trust worthy.
In truth, being sponsored by a company doesn't change the vast majority of what news reporters and sites say.
Case in point: This Week in Tech, Leo Leporte's netcast, is sponsored in a BIG way by AOL. But I've heard them be very even handed with AOL news.
Bottom line: it's not about who sponsors a show or site, it's about whether or now you trust the people bringing you the content to be fair with the information.
I trust Digg and Rev3 - punkrockxtian, on 10/12/2007, -12/+24could've just capped it without your silly image manipulation.
- asforme, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13@Gawtmilk
You miss the point entirely. By giving the code as much publicity as possible we are making a laughing stock of DRM. If it is only something hackers can use, then the RIAA & MPAA can continue on believing that DRM only hurts hackers, but by showing them that it doesn't work anyway, it shows them even more clearly that they need to change tactics. Let's make them change the code every two weeks, and see how long AACS lasts.
By the way, a Windows XP product keys have reached the front page of digg:
http://www.digg.com/software/Idiot_tries_to_Sell_XP_License_on_eBay_but_Shows_it_in_the_Picture
http://www.digg.com/microsoft/Need_a_Windows_XP_key_Google_can_help - YourFreedom, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11Many People are taking a strong position on Freedom of Speech.
I wish people would put the same energy in to addressing an issue that will eliminate your freedom of speech altogether.
Posting a DRM code on Digg will be a thing of the past as soon as National ID is implemented. It is the same thing Nazi Germany did many years ago. The parallels are pretty scary.
Please put the same energy into posting about the DRM code and expressing Freedom of Speech issues related to it, defending your constitution and fighting those who will truly take your freedom away.
I see Kevin had the Kahonies not to censor an extremely important Digg post from a couple of days ago. See below.
http://digg.com/security/One_week_to_stop_REAL_ID_and_save_America_from_the_surveillance_state
http://www.privacycoalition.org/stoprealid/ - meamog, on 10/12/2007, -14/+22OK, i'm going to get dugg down to death for this, whatever, but why would Digg kill these stories and nothing that bashes the Zune? Any negative Zune press falls under the same category, right? It doesn't make any sense.
Seriously folks, mob mentality is not going to get us anywhere. - kosmoX, on 10/12/2007, -5/+13OMG Diggnation has sponsors?! Kevin and Alex talk ***** about their sponsors all the time; HD-DVD doesn't get immunity from those insults.
- chaosium, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Good, please leave.
- Sixcolors, on 10/12/2007, -5/+12Ok, let's go over this once more:
Digg = privately owned site. Which means they can do whatever the hell they want. Go scream the code in the streets if you don't want to be censored. Please? I'm sick of seeing this ***** code that serves me no purpose whatsoever. - ehmjay, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8exactly - and bear in mind - diggnation is NOT digg. revision3 IS NOT digg. digg has a lot of sponsors - why bury stories about just one? don't you think that'd be a LITTLE obvious?
- allarise, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9So the original post had 15,000+ diggs? does anyone have a screenshot? I missed that part.
- thatbox, on 10/12/2007, -1/+716,000+, really. Maybe even more.
- Yage2006, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7I'm sure if anyone of you ran a site and got a legal notice to take something down you would. I doubt many of you would make a stand and keep it online to face legal court battles.
Its not doing it for money its doing it not to get sued.
I'm surprised at most of you who are overreacting over this. - wildlight, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7these posts aren't going to stop because people feel strongly about the censorship digg is showing. It's not about the code anymore, it's about censorship, and nobody on digg is patient enough to hear the response of the digg moderators. Their response does seem like it is taking longer than it should, however.
- CrispyMo, on 10/12/2007, -12/+17thank you
- KMye, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5@Gawtmilk
I agree with some of the sentiment of your post, but I gotta say, at the point digg was being served with a cease and desist, I think the DVD publishers were already tipped off... - mal1964, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6somebody wake up Kevin
- Snakedal337, on 10/12/2007, -6/+10Probably not, but it sure is fun!
- gotamd, on 10/12/2007, -6/+10Or perhaps Digg just doesn't want to get sued into the ground. Why can't people respect that?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4WTF, like 10 comments just dissappeared when I refreshed the page! WTF!?
- JimmyTheHutt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4This is not the home of free speech. This is a private enterprise. No one has any rights here except those extended as a courtesy.
- loker269, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Gawtmilk you are an idiot they can not just change the HD-DVD encryption key on the 360 HD-DVD drives unless they kill all 200,000+ drives on the market. Which you know I am sure would piss off a lot of people who spent $200 on the drive...so much so in fact that I don't see how they could do it without crippling or even killing HD-DVD...
Why do you think when it was first revealed arnezami said "They cannot revoke this crack" its because if they did they would simultaneously kill 200,000+ peoples HD-DVD drive... - digitalarcanum, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4what a bad analogy. that hd-dvd encryption key is like the spare key you thought you had lost forever but managed to find again-- say what you will about pirates abusing the key and whatnot, but if I ever got an HD-DVD I would like to have the convenience to back my property up to hard disk and play it via my computer whenever I damn well ***** felt like it without some sue-happy company waving the DMCA in my face.
As has been commonly said before: ***** THE **AA. and what's more you can stop alienating your customers any time now. - sepelester, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5@Gawtmilk
The point of making it widely known through as many sources as possible is to protect the ones who released it first. If only a few knew about it the sources could be traced easily and they could continue sending cease and desists to whoever publishes or provides a link to the key. Now EVERYONE knows it and there is no use threatening people anymore. - habfan29, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5http://digg.com/bugreport
- kerbechard, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6diggers != journalists
bye bye - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Revision 3 doesn't own digg.
- dracostimpy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3It just occurred to me that digg's getting assloads of traffic over this whole debacle. Maybe that extra ad revenue can help them hire a lawyer that doesn't have his head up his ass.
- cemeteralgarden, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Wouldn't it be funny if this never ended.
- mal1964, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3the server farm is getting a bit warm
- asforme, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Pasting the keys would only ever have the potential to remove DRM, only bringing it back down to the level of security it would've had without any DRM. So your logic is flawed. Instead, realize what this did -- hackers new the keys, and were releasing HD-DVD rips that the public could download. Every time the key changes, the hackers have to take the time to find the key before they can rip more HD-DVDs. So, we lose...
Who are We? I am not a hacker, I want to be able to play the media on my Linux computer without having to decrypt useless DRM and without having to buy a new monitor. I am not fighting for the cause of trying to be able to hack the DVD's, I am fighting for the cause of not being forced to hack the DVD's. After this event you don't think some of the big wigs are questioning the effectiveness of AACS? The point is to let them know that whatever DRM they come up with it will be cracked, and the only people that it hurts is the folks that have to buy a new HD DVD player every two weeks because the codes are constantly being changed. - MrJohnson, on 10/12/2007, -12/+15I thought this website was about freedom of speech and freedom of the press. If it's not, I don't want to be a part of it.
- wcolbert, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2its old, and digg has responded. Bury this bad boy.
- metronil, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2WHAAAAAAAA!!! DIGG WONT HELP ME BREAK THE LAW AND STEAL BECAUSE IM TOO POOR AND STUPID TO MAKE MONEY TO BUY NICE THINGS MYSELF!!
WHAAAAAAA!!!!
F'ing nazis...americans are pathetic whiners. - Narwaffle, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Asscancer. Worst kind. *Shudders*
- STONECRUSHER420, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1May, 1st, 2007 there was a riot on the blogs tell me where were you,
you were sitting at home watching your TV
While I was participating in some ANARCHY!!!
Digg had a riot last night over some HD-DVD hack code. C-mon, the hackers got blu-ray, you thought they couldn't hack HD-DVD as well. It's not really news, but it turned into a story after DIGG censored the story. Now that the last thing you want to do is piss off the hacers!!
That's what happened last night, a bunch of people re-posting the story in different names. Threre is obvious Censorship here!!!! - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Oh ***** you guys and your ***** HD DVD code. Digg is more important to me than the code. If you guys really want to destroy digg with your *****, then go ahead, but it will be you who destroyed it, nobody else will be to blame.
Digg is a private company, you dont have the right to post whatever you ***** want. You are given the PRIVILAGE to post whatever you ***** want and you guys better be really ***** grateful that Kevin Rose decided to put the future of Digg at risk for you guys. This conspiracy ***** is such *****, ***** you guys to turning on Digg like that. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1if hd-dvd gave money to digg, or advertised on their site then digg has the right to bury the story. it wouldnt be right to disrespect or hurt people who advertise or invest in ur company. you kids think its stupid and that digg is all about the money are idiots. of course they are interested in their own financial situation. who wouldnt be? i kno i am
- kidtsunami, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'm missing the connection between posting an encryption key on a private website and Real ID.
- MrColdheart, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1you do realize HD-DVD was sponsoring Diggnation for awhile .. but there PRIMARY sponsor is (and always has been) GoDaddy and Cache Fly.. mostly because they actually handle and distribute the poddcast...
and you really need to hear Kevin and Alex talk about buying cheap HD-DVD drives..
I mean if I was getting a kick back from HD-DVD I would opt for a good player instead of a skeleton drive hooked up to my xbox360.
can someone please digg up a free college level journalist class because 80% of digg is hack writing with no research. - kidcodea, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3"If we lose, then what the hell, at least we died trying."
now that's what i wanted to hear. i'm also glad digg is run by people that HEAR what users have to say , even if only after a mutiny, but tbh that only makes it even more noble.
as for my part this kevin statement is more than enough to stop the code madness.
thank you, and keep up the good work, standing by your peers. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Wow they erased the comments on this as well!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1buried as innacurate
- PissedGodzilla, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Every single one of you people that dugg this ***** deserve to die. you are all pathetic bastards who will just end up ruining the good name of digg. Good job *****.,.
- swhite76, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4blah blah blah. There is no grand conspiracy. Digg doesn't want to get its butt sued. That's the financial incentive. It has nothing to do with the ad revenue and any implied cover-up because of it.
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