The patriotic flag burning (P&T magic trick) watch!
5min.com — It's amazing how you can get away with some stuff. Flag burning (which is a crime in some places) can be easily done in front of a captive audience if you do it while making a patriotic speech.
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- SKinsync, on 05/20/2008, -167/+2Cool story
There a cool youtube review
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http://digg.com/mods/Youtube_What_makes_you_stay_l ...- elbarto89, on 05/20/2008, -0/+11FAIL
- cannibaljp, on 05/20/2008, -0/+18THAT might be my favorite comment failure of all time. Epic proportions of suck, clueless, and douche mixed with just enough copy pasta...
At FAIL, you truly have won!
- Avrumales, on 05/20/2008, -3/+146Penn & Teller are never less than awesome.
You can agree or disagree with what they say, but they're always make you laugh or go "wow".
However, using other digg articles to promote your own, that is lame.- rspeed, on 05/20/2008, -0/+13And if you ever find yourself in Vegas, try to pry your ass away from the blackjack tables and titty bars and go to the Rio for a few hours to see their show. It's worth every penny. The fact that they show you how most of the tricks are done is the best part. Wait, no. Firing live ammunition directly at each others' face is the best part. I still can't figure that one out.
- ShadowCid, on 05/20/2008, -1/+3If you really wanted to know, there are sites dedicated to revealing tricks. There's also google.
I did the work for you: http://www.foreworks.com/bullet2.html
Read it if you want, but it will take away a lot of the "magic" that makes the trick so much fun to watch.- rspeed, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1Revealing the trick doesn't ruin the trick for me. I already know it's not real, so there's no illusion that's destroyed. Penn and Teller are masters at making the act of revealing the trick even more entertaining than the trick itself. Don't believe me? Watch their version of the cup and balls trick.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wI8PC3hUIEc
- rspeed, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1Revealing the trick doesn't ruin the trick for me. I already know it's not real, so there's no illusion that's destroyed. Penn and Teller are masters at making the act of revealing the trick even more entertaining than the trick itself. Don't believe me? Watch their version of the cup and balls trick.
- TheTaoOfBill, on 05/20/2008, -10/+3If Michelle Obama saw this video it would be the 2nd time shes been proud of her country.
- MacEnvy, on 05/20/2008, -2/+3The funniest part of your comment is how absolutely clear it makes it that the actual point of the video went completely over your head.
I love my country. But it's been a hell of a long time since I've been proud of it. - TheTaoOfBill, on 05/21/2008, -0/+1What are you talking about? Seriously I can't figure out how you got that some how this video went over my head because I made a joke about Michelle Obama. I'm an Obama supporter by the way. And I can't remember being proud of my country in my life time. Though I'm only 22.
- MacEnvy, on 05/20/2008, -2/+3The funniest part of your comment is how absolutely clear it makes it that the actual point of the video went completely over your head.
- trevorh, on 05/20/2008, -2/+8It's not a trick its an illusion. A trick is something a whore does for money... or CANDY!!!
- ShadowCid, on 05/20/2008, -1/+3If you really wanted to know, there are sites dedicated to revealing tricks. There's also google.
- rgodfrey, on 05/20/2008, -9/+3I have been a fan of their magic show for years, but I would argue that their TV show on Showtime is something less than awesome. It's not particularly entertaining to watch them disagree with dumb people and generally knock down straw men.
- joshman5k, on 05/20/2008, -0/+3I loved the first season, but by the time they got to the 4th they were really running out of material.
- scoutxxor, on 05/20/2008, -15/+2I'm not impressed at all. teller obviously took the flag right back out before the fire came.
Look how close they stand, notice he puts the flag in and leaves about an inch poking out for tellers quiet little hands to take.
magicians? what a joke- Biznack, on 05/20/2008, -0/+7They're comedians...
What a joke indeed. - bitcloud, on 05/20/2008, -3/+2Yeah i thought they were revealing the trick the FIRST time... it was one of their ***** tricks
- bryanwebster, on 05/20/2008, -1/+1agreed
- Biznack, on 05/20/2008, -0/+7They're comedians...
- jumico, on 05/20/2008, -0/+0Here's the same thing they did but on the west wing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NymRecFWgAs
White house gets upset.
- rspeed, on 05/20/2008, -0/+13And if you ever find yourself in Vegas, try to pry your ass away from the blackjack tables and titty bars and go to the Rio for a few hours to see their show. It's worth every penny. The fact that they show you how most of the tricks are done is the best part. Wait, no. Firing live ammunition directly at each others' face is the best part. I still can't figure that one out.
- TJATL, on 05/20/2008, -2/+139My favorite Libertarian Magicians.
- blast_flame, on 05/20/2008, -0/+15There are other libertarian magicians?
- apophenic, on 05/20/2008, -1/+3I like to think of Robert Anton Wilson as a libertarian magician.
- cannibaljp, on 05/20/2008, -0/+7Lou Dobbs?
He takes this box in my living room, and he makes the perspective just disappear!
How DOES he do that?- FadieZ, on 05/20/2008, -0/+3***** Lou Dobbs.
- Envark, on 05/20/2008, -0/+0Lou Dobbs is not a libertarian.
- onetimer, on 05/20/2008, -9/+11...Ron Paul trying to make the survivalist newsletters disappear into thin air
Someone had to say it. ☺- ssn697, on 05/20/2008, -2/+7"Remember, keep your group anonymous. Good cover groups are church meeting groups, or a bowling club"
That never gets old... - HumanCattle, on 05/20/2008, -3/+4A "digg bury brigade" also makes a good cover group.
- ssn697, on 05/20/2008, -2/+7"Remember, keep your group anonymous. Good cover groups are church meeting groups, or a bowling club"
- bitcloud, on 05/20/2008, -4/+1they're not libertarian magicians... they're free market magicians... there's a difference (tho the free market brigade would prefer if you didn't realise)
- itsthebrod, on 05/20/2008, -0/+3Both Penn and Teller are confirmed, self-labeled Libertarians.
- blast_flame, on 05/20/2008, -0/+2No they self identify as libertarians. They say it outright on the beginning of the penn and teller ***** episode on reparations.
- senatorpjt, on 05/21/2008, -0/+2So what, Bill Maher calls himself a libertarian. Maybe he stopped, because he's not.
- bitcloud, on 05/25/2008, -0/+1Hey wow... I'm a bionic man made of titanium alloy...
K-Fed is a "musician"
Hitler was a "national socialist"
see how saying something doesn't make it true?
- ZenMojo, on 05/20/2008, -9/+2Houdini was better, and he was a Socialist. So nyah.
- withears, on 05/20/2008, -1/+3Why was Houdini better? Because you read a book about him? Or saw a TV show?
- rolf, on 05/20/2008, -1/+5And while we are digging this up, do our fellow diggers recognize that we may vote someone into the White House who would not allow us this aspect of Freedom of Speech? He wants to not only bypass mending the Constitution for this and admits it, but thinks a law banning flag burning is enough.
"I support legislation introduced by Senator Durbin that makes it illegal to burn the flag without changing the Constitution."
http://obama.senate.gov/press/060627-obama_stateme ...- Perceive, on 05/20/2008, -2/+3Did you actually read your own link or understood what it meant? First of all, no law can bypass the US Constitution, only an amendment can change it. A law is much easier to get rid of than an amendment. In 2006, when Richard Durbin, proposed his law, the US Senate came one vote short of approving an amendment to ban flag burning (which the House already passed). Durbin's proposal was a compromise, a last ditch effort to prevent Congress from amending the Constitution to restrict rights. He, and supporters of the bill, which by the way included both Senator Hillary Clinton and Senator Barack Obama, were hoping that with the bill on the table, the Senate would be less inclined to approve the flag-burning amendment. As it was, the Senate came one vote short of approving the amendment, and rejected Durbin's law too as most didn't think it went far enough. Durbin's bill would only criminalize flag-burning when it's done to threaten or incite violence. And it could be invalidated by the courts or by another session of congress. Obama, Clinton, Durbin, and 31 other senators were a courageous minority that refused to vote for a Constitutional amendment to ban flag-burning (McCain voted for it, FYI). To discount their work in averting the oppressive amendment, to twist it around into the opposite, is ridiculous and ignorant.
- rolf, on 05/20/2008, -1/+1Look, I'm not pro-McCain (I'm not voting for him either), but that press release by Obama or his staff says nothing about protecting Free Speech but the tone seems completely against allowing Flag burning.
I don't believe passing unconstitutional laws is "not playing politics". - senatorpjt, on 05/21/2008, -0/+1Any law can bypass the US Constitution.
"Any person who, in or affecting interstate commerce, burns a flag, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both."
Flags are produced in multiple states, therefore the flag had to be purchased either from another state, or if it was purchased locally, affects the market for flags because it takes the place of a flag which would have otherwise had to be brought in from another state. Therefore, burning a flag is interstate commerce.
Sounds ridiculous, but it's the exact same rationale used to justify the Controlled Substances Act. (see Gonzales v. Raich).
- rolf, on 05/20/2008, -1/+1Look, I'm not pro-McCain (I'm not voting for him either), but that press release by Obama or his staff says nothing about protecting Free Speech but the tone seems completely against allowing Flag burning.
- Perceive, on 05/20/2008, -2/+3Did you actually read your own link or understood what it meant? First of all, no law can bypass the US Constitution, only an amendment can change it. A law is much easier to get rid of than an amendment. In 2006, when Richard Durbin, proposed his law, the US Senate came one vote short of approving an amendment to ban flag burning (which the House already passed). Durbin's proposal was a compromise, a last ditch effort to prevent Congress from amending the Constitution to restrict rights. He, and supporters of the bill, which by the way included both Senator Hillary Clinton and Senator Barack Obama, were hoping that with the bill on the table, the Senate would be less inclined to approve the flag-burning amendment. As it was, the Senate came one vote short of approving the amendment, and rejected Durbin's law too as most didn't think it went far enough. Durbin's bill would only criminalize flag-burning when it's done to threaten or incite violence. And it could be invalidated by the courts or by another session of congress. Obama, Clinton, Durbin, and 31 other senators were a courageous minority that refused to vote for a Constitutional amendment to ban flag-burning (McCain voted for it, FYI). To discount their work in averting the oppressive amendment, to twist it around into the opposite, is ridiculous and ignorant.
- withears, on 05/20/2008, -1/+2But they vote Democrat.
- Dystisis, on 05/20/2008, -4/+2"Libertarianism" (I assume you mean anarcho-capitalistm) is the most dangerous form of capitalism. They promote capitalist loose ideas of "freedom" (the freedom of owning factories and enslaving workers -- of course whose rights aren't considered -- with wages) without any framework regulating who this craze affects. In short, it means even more poverty, more unequal distribution of the goods, than there is now.
Of course, abolishing or restricting the government is a good thing in general. Luckily, the way technology is developing allowing goods to be produced for little or no cost (an obvious example to you guys would be filesharing) should also mean people would be getting things for free, right? Which would mean the entire wage system is doomed to topple over, luckily. However, obviously the people in charge, those who control the means of production, will not let that happen. They are what stands in the way of progress.- itsthebrod, on 05/20/2008, -2/+4If you think personal freedoms are "dangerous" then perhaps a move to China may be toward your (and everyone else's) advantage.
- Envark, on 05/20/2008, -0/+4Wages for voluntary labor is not the equivalent of enslaving workers.
- ciaran036, on 05/20/2008, -1/+1Who's they? I don't!
- HonestAbe, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1You mean anarcho-capitalist magicians.
- blast_flame, on 05/20/2008, -0/+15There are other libertarian magicians?
- kaelyiesta, on 05/20/2008, -3/+114I love these guys. They are patriotic in the true sense of the word: Devoted to the ideals this country was founded on, not it's current leaders nor policies.
- rolf, on 05/20/2008, -1/+15Unfortunately, there are a lot of loudmouthed "lapel pin" patriots these days, not just current leaders.
- HotBaconSauce, on 05/20/2008, -0/+5It's disgusting when nationalists consider themselves patriots.
- rolf, on 05/20/2008, -1/+15Unfortunately, there are a lot of loudmouthed "lapel pin" patriots these days, not just current leaders.
- jacob1270, on 05/20/2008, -2/+51I totally agree, they're awesome, and they entertain with intelligence, this makes such a difference these days. and I guess it always did.
Being 20 I can honestly say I loved them most of my life, from the very first moment I saw them.- MaiSacNjoMouf, on 05/20/2008, -0/+5I also agree. I am 24 and have loved them ever since I can remember.
My g/f and I flew out to Vegas to see them last September, and I can't
even describe how awesome the show was. (Front row center)
To anyone who gets the chance DO IT!
They will even talk to you after the show (Yes, Teller will speak)- AzureRise, on 05/20/2008, -0/+7I'm 19, and I too wish to go to a hotel room in Vegas with my girlfriend.
- MaiSacNjoMouf, on 05/20/2008, -0/+5I also agree. I am 24 and have loved them ever since I can remember.
- citydragon, on 05/20/2008, -2/+47I like this one:
http://icanhaz.com/bees- badjoke, on 05/20/2008, -0/+5OH GOD, NOT THE BEES!
- Yareking, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1i was scare for them
- tobsterius, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1Their "Shadows" trick is damn near perfect -- http://youtube.com/watch?v=AG6Pr7DD2YM
- splatterboy, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1Thank you...
- t3rmv3locity, on 05/20/2008, -0/+2The west wing segment is freaking awesome.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NymRecFWgAs
- navster15, on 05/20/2008, -1/+23This video reminded me of Penn's radio show that he used to do about a year back. Dammit Penn, get back on the airwaves! I need my daily dose of sanity!
- 0260, on 05/20/2008, -0/+11Tuesdays haven't been the same
- Lixie, on 05/20/2008, -0/+7He does a video blog now, Penn Says. You can get it through iTunes.
- kris33, on 05/20/2008, -0/+4A video podcast in other words.
- KingMoses, on 05/20/2008, -0/+3Hey, at least there's a full archive of the radio show on pennfans.net
Listen to that year over and over, it's well worth it.
- Inohavehalos, on 05/20/2008, -17/+0I have adobe video player or WTF it is. I ***** hate when this ***** happens
by the way, my verification code is deUCe
lol - rdubya44, on 05/20/2008, -1/+126In the words of teller:
"............................" - amdforever, on 05/20/2008, -27/+10Too much talking, too little magic.
- Funpolice2050, on 05/20/2008, -28/+2***** MAGIC SUCKS!
- Lewie, on 05/20/2008, -0/+6WE'LL DO IT LIVE!
- cadmiumpaint, on 05/20/2008, -4/+60They're gonna get kicked out of the magicians alliance just like Gob.
- Fordi, on 05/20/2008, -2/+7Funny. They've been doing trick reveals for ages, and still haven't been punted from the guild.
The reason: they don't reveal other magicians' tricks. - MacSuxWindozSux, on 05/20/2008, -4/+2I heard they were kicked out a long time ago.
- Fordi, on 05/20/2008, -2/+7Funny. They've been doing trick reveals for ages, and still haven't been punted from the guild.
- KingWilson, on 05/20/2008, -63/+31:25 Teller covers the flag with the paper and Penn pulls out a lighter to distract the audience. the flag slips out the back.
edit: didn't watch the whole thing and see that they explain it- jmpeagle, on 05/20/2008, -1/+29then delete your comment
- DanSheldon, on 05/20/2008, -1/+143:30 They show how the trick is done.
And btw, you were wrong. - byrdgang, on 05/20/2008, -0/+24Your desire to be the first to point it out was so urgent, you had to comment before watching the whole thing, right?
- itsthebrod, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1Come on, give the man SOMETHING to live for...
- moarebelyell, on 05/20/2008, -10/+0cheese
- kb29, on 05/20/2008, -11/+5Did anyone else just cry a little?
- ZenMojo, on 05/20/2008, -4/+3No, but just now, coincidentally, I just threw up in my mouth a little.
- VinceNoir, on 05/20/2008, -14/+1No. But then again I haven't been infected by the lie that libertarians pass off as respect for the individual. Maybe you have. If so, go seek help. Now.
- DarkReign16, on 05/20/2008, -1/+5What the ***** are you on about VinceNoir?
Blocked for being a douche. - KingMoses, on 05/20/2008, -0/+4Oh yes, of course REALLY respecting the individual requires you to forget about that silly little "right to own property" and forcefully redistribute wealth fairly to everybody, is that right?
You can have freedom or equality; you can't have both.
- DarkReign16, on 05/20/2008, -1/+5What the ***** are you on about VinceNoir?
- Synapse84, on 05/20/2008, -12/+3This is just awesome, and really have to appreciate that it was done right in the White House.
- LoveYouSomeEric, on 05/20/2008, -0/+9Penn says they are "on stage in Vegas". The White House is not in Vegas (yet).
- Pyrorunner, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1It was done in the fake White House though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NymRecFWgAs - Synapse84, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1hmm could've sworn they did this trick in the actual white house... oh well.
- ligyron, on 05/20/2008, -18/+3I GOT CHILLS! Not.
- kirk89, on 05/20/2008, -14/+8God Bless America
- Miamisun, on 05/20/2008, -3/+54Penn is so well spoken that i would believe him if he said i was never born
- Dystisis, on 05/20/2008, -0/+0That's the problem.
- Akraz, on 05/20/2008, -0/+2Probably one of the funniest original things I've ever read in a comment. Kudos.
- DaviDTC, on 05/20/2008, -10/+4Is the 5min video spam coming back?
- elbarto89, on 05/20/2008, -2/+12Now thats showmanship.
They never disappoint - spyd3rweb, on 05/20/2008, -0/+82Burning a flag is the recommended disposal method for a flag in the US Flag Code.
- rolf, on 05/20/2008, -1/+17The code emphasizes in a respectful manner though.
(When you think about it though, someone came up with the code. It's not written by god. We ought to be free, think for ourselves, and not a slave to someone else's arbitrary rules.
Too often we place too much importance on the symbol itself rather that what it represents. Idol worship, in other words.)- boobsbr, on 05/20/2008, -0/+5sensible words
- rolf, on 05/20/2008, -1/+17The code emphasizes in a respectful manner though.
- imacmike, on 05/20/2008, -0/+315min.com is being slow for me. Here's the same video on YouTube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jF2iX2VG6e4- GothAlice, on 05/20/2008, -0/+2With the debug version of the Flash player installed, it's a wonder that anyone uses 5min.com at all… it is BUGGY. Out the wazoo.
- itsbob, on 05/20/2008, -2/+6Those guys are great! I saw the show in Las Vegas recently and they are amazing, they even do a meet and greet after the show for all the guests. Great talent, great opinions and great people.
- AwesomousPrime, on 05/20/2008, -15/+1aciremA sselB doG
- JasonHilton, on 05/20/2008, -7/+205min.com is a good name...It takes 5 minutes to load.
- byrdgang, on 05/20/2008, -5/+4Try using something other than dial-up.
- cnot3, on 05/20/2008, -5/+3Old but true.
- isparadiselost, on 05/20/2008, -12/+3They need to adjust their focus to the torching of the Constitution that has taken place over the past 10 years. We no longer live in a free country. We live in a country where we are as free as we're allowed to be.
There's a revolution calling.......- speel, on 05/20/2008, -1/+2But no one is answering, we're all to busy making money or to worried about being dirt poor.
- heliox, on 05/20/2008, -3/+2Rhetoric ***** much?
- VinceNoir, on 05/20/2008, -6/+1I agree with you 100%. The only way to make sure everyone else agrees is to destroy capitalism since it is responsible for the monstrous madness that has infected America. This country has become blighted with greed, selfishness and corruption. Anyone guilty of those crimes should be rightfully destroyed. That time is approaching.
- khaose, on 05/20/2008, -1/+0Yes, and wile you preach that lack of freedom playing around on line in you home, at school or a business. Look at how many people from the not so free counter are waisting there time on leaving empty comments. O wait they don't even have that liberty my bad.
- becknell, on 05/20/2008, -2/+2Excellent!!
- tama00, on 05/20/2008, -13/+3Whoa i cant believe how American's can be so up themselves..
- last12exile, on 05/20/2008, -24/+2Wow you people are the most unpatriotic dolts I've ever seen. HUR HUR THER BURNING THA FLAG!! What "Rebels". The flag should mean something to you guys, it represents the country that gives you lots of opportunity, sure you may have some qualms but don't you people have any loyalty? I mean its kinda sickening to see so many other young people blatantly disrespect something that is very important.
- hhswatkins, on 05/20/2008, -0/+4Watch the god damn video before commenting on the article about the video
- 47f0, on 05/20/2008, -0/+12No sir. What's disgusting is seeing how many false patriots value the symbol over the ideals it represents. That flag represents the freedom to dissent, to protest, even if it means burning the flag. Phony flag wavers who stand by idly while the constitution is gutted are disgusting. The symbol of the flag can never be more important than the freedom it stands for. You sir, fail at civics.
- amadeusdemarzi, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1Somehow I knew some tool was gonna say that. Looks like I had you already blocked though, sweet! :)
- Sovereign2142, on 05/20/2008, -2/+37This immediately brought back memories of the West Wing episode that they did this in.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NymRecFWgAs- Maver1c, on 05/20/2008, -0/+3cool, always enjoy seeing new (to me anyway) penn and teller stuff.
- _skin_, on 05/20/2008, -0/+3I had never seen that, but it was good. I would have rather seen that first, then the vegas show explaining it.
- Koskun, on 05/20/2008, -2/+5They did this on The West Wing a couple of years ago (Season 5 I believe). Was a neat episode where they used the "did they burn a flag" into the episode.
- jumico, on 05/20/2008, -0/+0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NymRecFWgAs
Heres the video of part of it.
- jumico, on 05/20/2008, -0/+0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NymRecFWgAs
- mrgeekguy, on 05/20/2008, -3/+8American Flag Etiquette:
http://www.usa-flag-site.org/etiquette.shtml- nelsonscheung, on 05/20/2008, -0/+5"The flag should be lighted at all times, either by sunlight or by an appropriate light source."
hmm...... - Fordi, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1Oops. @nelson cheung:
Dugg up for brilliant insight. - boerema, on 05/20/2008, -0/+0I have always enjoyed how at least 60% of all flags in America violate some part of Flag Code. I've actually heard of people getting fines for flying tattered flags.
- nelsonscheung, on 05/20/2008, -0/+5"The flag should be lighted at all times, either by sunlight or by an appropriate light source."
- Davers, on 05/20/2008, -6/+1I think I dugg this about a year ago. Anyone have a date on the recording?
- DJTre, on 05/20/2008, -7/+2Without them burning the flag....this article wouldn't be here.
- ZenMojo, on 05/20/2008, -5/+23Before the douches come in to whine about flag burning, understand that it is your duty as an American to burn your flag whenever it gets dirty, old, faded, or even touches the ground. It is disrespectful to leave an old, tattered, worn flag flying in the wind.
So if your flag is old, go out and burn it or else you are a ***** American.- derekrg, on 05/20/2008, -0/+4I'm fine with what they did I just was going to correct what you said:
First to me personally that flag didn't look to old, torn, dirty etc but whatever (they didn't burn it)...
Next in order to burn a flag it needs to be done in a respectful manner (commonly at a color guard ceremony) compared to lighting it up in the street etc.
And no one should be going nuts over what they did so I agree with you - bobothn, on 05/20/2008, -4/+3It is recommended that it be burnt in a respectful manner. It is unrecommended that you don't let it hit the ground that you have light on it and that you take it in in bad weather. I think the point of this video was a celebration of the fact that those are recommendations not strict laws with heavy punishments like is some countries.
- boobsbr, on 05/20/2008, -2/+10do whatever you want with your flag, it's yours and it's a piece of cloth, not a sacred item delivered to you by god.
- Envark, on 05/20/2008, -1/+1No need to go all pro-life on us.
- derekrg, on 05/20/2008, -0/+4I'm fine with what they did I just was going to correct what you said:
- alenox, on 05/20/2008, -1/+5old but worthy of a digg still
- Dan11023, on 05/20/2008, -7/+1uh, oh..... 5 min is spamming digg again
- VinceNoir, on 05/20/2008, -30/+1God. What a couple of tools. ***** libertarian trash. They stand for everything I despise about the lie of individuality. It's a sham. They're only into "individuality" when it serves their needs. And Penn is reminding me more and more of the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons. Bleh. Buried as more than lame.
- DarkReign16, on 05/20/2008, -1/+3WHAT????? Are you ***** insane....?
At any rate, please stop trolling. - KingMoses, on 05/20/2008, -0/+2You're right, individuality isn't about things like rights or liberty; individuality is what you find in the breadlines or in in the shared bathrooms with your comrades in your state-built apartment. I can't even come online to troll without seething from the evil greed of the capitalist pig dogs all over the place.
- VinceNoir, on 05/20/2008, -2/+1Shut the hell up you stinking commie. We destroyed scum like you back in the cold war. You'll never come back.
- thorstrongstone, on 05/20/2008, -2/+1Yeeeeaaahh, tell that to China, Cuba, and Vietnam.
- gerbco, on 05/20/2008, -0/+4read: Sarcasm.
- VinceNoir, on 05/20/2008, -2/+1The original poster made the idiotic assumption that since I'm opposed to libertarians I must be a [GASP!] Communist. Of course he fails to see that libertarians and communists are simply the opposite side of the same coin: two ideals that are easily thwarted by human selfishness and greed.
- thorstrongstone, on 05/20/2008, -2/+1Yeeeeaaahh, tell that to China, Cuba, and Vietnam.
- VinceNoir, on 05/20/2008, -2/+1Shut the hell up you stinking commie. We destroyed scum like you back in the cold war. You'll never come back.
- DarkReign16, on 05/20/2008, -1/+3WHAT????? Are you ***** insane....?
- Danby123, on 05/20/2008, -11/+1http://youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU
- mfc5200, on 05/20/2008, -0/+42Actually, the Chinese constitution does have a "bill of rights" so to speak, and freedom of speech is on there. The only problem is that there are clauses attached to it, such as "national security, integrity, maintaining social harmony etc". This explains why maintaining freedom of speech without any conditions is so essential, because it is a very slippery slope.
- hospitalcio, on 05/20/2008, -1/+3Best comment I have read in a while.
- userperson, on 05/20/2008, -0/+2True that!
... though constitutions and laws are all just promises made by gov't comprised of politicians, which generally gains more power by forgetting such things, maneuvering around them, or out-right ignoring them. - barnett25, on 05/20/2008, -1/+1That sounds a lot like the sorts of clauses that Bush has been adding to things as "signing statements". A scary thought...
- sleeknerve, on 05/20/2008, -7/+25min is just a scam to get traffic from Digg, people shouldnt Digg these videos
- MacSuxWindozSux, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1This was revealed months ago. They have numerous Digg accounts from which they submit and Digg their own stories.
- ahawks, on 05/20/2008, -6/+20When I watched this a long time ago, I found it really inspiring. I haven't done it, but I think burning a flag could be a very patriotic thing to do. Bear with me...
We Americans are the "free-est" people of the world. At least, we have been. We're in danger of losing those freedoms. For some reason, I feel like folding a flag up, saluting it, and burning it some how honors our freedom. It honors the fact that we CAN burn the flag. That we CAN disagree with our government. That we CAN change things. The day that liberty goes away is a sad day.
A flag is just a piece of cloth. A country is just a mass of land, but it's the political structure and philosophies that define us.- CA55IDY, on 05/20/2008, -0/+5Its not who we are, but what we do that defines us
- Batman- herrshuster, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1actually, rachel, but w/e
- boobsbr, on 05/20/2008, -0/+7"Americans" are not the "free-est" people of the world.
- CA55IDY, on 05/20/2008, -0/+5Its not who we are, but what we do that defines us
- evo8ftw, on 05/20/2008, -14/+1Wow diggers calm down. Penn is a conservative I'm sure it will be only a day until you claim he helped planed 9/11 and is now racking in big money from Iraq. I know how your pea size brains work.
- Maver1c, on 05/20/2008, -1/+2I guess you didnt see the episode of ***** where they covered 9/11 =)
- evo8ftw, on 05/20/2008, -3/+1Apparently you didn't!!! The ep was about how 9/11 truthers are Bull *****.
pwned- Maver1c, on 05/21/2008, -1/+1Um, i know...that's why it would be silly to claim that penn & teller would have anything at all to do with a 9/11 conspiracy theory.
- evo8ftw, on 05/20/2008, -3/+1Apparently you didn't!!! The ep was about how 9/11 truthers are Bull *****.
- Maver1c, on 05/20/2008, -1/+2I guess you didnt see the episode of ***** where they covered 9/11 =)
- MrSkrilla, on 05/20/2008, -3/+9that was so obvious, they really didn't need to explain it.
- gabbagabba, on 05/20/2008, -7/+1Burning a flag is like saying an anti-statist statement rather than an anti-governmental statement. The american Flag represents the United States Of America as a landmass and as the place in which americans live, it can be defined as anti-state activity which is prohibited by the constitution and therefore shouldn't be legal. Its not really a question of rights or anything because by burning an american flag you're saying that the United States shouldn't exist and you are refuting the very idea of belonging to a nation which regardless of how much you hate a government doesn't make much of a difference because you still belong to that nation. Its unconstitutional to burn a flag so therefore there shouldn't be any debate unless they want to make a change to the constitution which would probably put in question many issues of what is a nation and what is sovereignty which Academics view in many differing ways.
- kakwakas, on 05/20/2008, -1/+1So, you're saying that when governments change, flags never do? I mean, if it represents the landmass...
- bagelmaster, on 05/20/2008, -0/+2Morons like you are eroding my rights. Please stop.
- TJATL, on 05/20/2008, -0/+2I'd rather fly the "Don't Tread On Me" flag, rather then the stars and stripes right now.
- awtripp, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1" The only definitive answer is found in the US Flag Code. TITLE 4 > CHAPTER 1 > Sec. 8(k). It states:
"The flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning""
So, no it is not "unconstitutional" to burn the flag (when disposing of it.)
- byrdgang, on 05/20/2008, -0/+7This couldn't have been performed better.
- diggafrica, on 05/20/2008, -1/+6I think we should all start burning Flags, its a great way to demonstrate the freedom that american was founded upon, not the type the current administrations are using
- AlienMushroom, on 05/20/2008, -6/+3They can't win without bashing China which they never knew.
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