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breitbart.tv — Not all homeless panhandlers are homeless. Who knew enterprising people would play on others emotions for tax free income?

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  • Barbrady, on 04/26/2008, -2/+73We see it quite often here in Portland, Oregon too.
    • skippyoh, on 04/26/2008, -4/+16True story I've seen people in Portland asking for money for a bus ticket then get into their car and drive away. I don't really blame them most people in Portland are more than willing to give out spare change so why get a real job when you can make more holding a sign.
      • jaznova, on 04/26/2008, -8/+7"Who knew enterprising people would play on others emotions for tax free income?"
        Um, I think most of us know that.
        Skippy, while many of us have had similar experiences, my problem with this piece is that it lumps all panhandlers together based on this one lying lazy bitch. The flip side of the coin is that if you're ***** in the head and you;re wearing your underwear on the outside of your pants, there may be a problem in the interview process [insert credit]. Its ok to ***** up once in a while when exercising compassion, especially when we're talking about a $0.68 to a few bucks. (Yeah, ok if they ask for 68 cents and you believe them you're a fool)

        Not turning into a cold hearted grinch: priceless
        • B3000, on 04/26/2008, -0/+2Does that [insert credit] go to Greg Giraldo? Cause that is a line from his stand up act.
      • nick111, on 04/26/2008, -8/+3Yay, another victim-blaming thread on Digg.

        Hey - guess what? In proper egalatarian societies, people don't beg. I've been in New Zealand for the last year - I haven't seen one single person begging since I've been here.
    • jasonmantey, on 04/26/2008, -1/+14Ditto in Austin, TX

      Coming from [the city of] Detroit, it's somewhat easy to spot them [the fake ones]. Plus, compared to up north, it's hard to feel bad for some of them here -- I've seen way too many homeless people in sub-freezing weather - compared to that, the Austin homeless have it good.
      • clarient, on 04/26/2008, -1/+6Austin is known far and wide as a great city to be homeless in. What with the Austin Resource Center for the Homeless built in 2004, the multitude of homeless resource groups/centers, and the plethora of bleeding hearts, you are practically better off being homeless than trying to hold a job and keep up with the outrageous cost of living we have.

        I see them everywhere. I'll help them out with a bottle of water or fruit, but no way am I giving any of them my hard-earned money.
        • JoeDiggsIt, on 04/26/2008, -0/+5Is the guy that stands next to the huge Whole Foods downtown still there? Because the week I stayed there, I almost always saw him getting some kind of food.
      • Silentnite85, on 04/26/2008, -6/+4I was going to a concert in Detroit with a group of my friends. On the way through the parking lot we were approached by this raggedy looking fellow by the name of Crazy-Tim. He started giving us some story about being out of town, and then running out of gas, and we stopped him. We asked, "look, are you just trying to get beer?". He shyly admitted "yes, it's only $1.48 for the forty ounce I was going to get." We said, "well thanks for being honest". And sent him away with 10 bucks or so between us.

        Thanks Mr. Bumman, for being honest.
        • mynameishere, on 04/26/2008, -0/+16*for being honest.*

          Honest, after an interrogation, isn't honest. The crook just changed his strategy for a different set of suckers and it worked.
          • chaosium, on 04/26/2008, -0/+3I have no idea why people think the idea is novel either. "I'm just getting booze/WEEEEED" is as old as "i'm just trying to get money for the bus man".
        • PopcornDave, on 04/26/2008, -1/+4I've got one that actually beats that. Yesterday i saw the best panhandling sign ever. I'm sure everybody's seen the sign "Why lie, I need a beer" before. This guy was better: "I'm too ugly to get laid. Need money for a hooker."
          • Ataxia2008, on 04/26/2008, -2/+3Masturbation is free. If it wasn't, I'd be seriously in debt...
      • Coolkid11, on 04/26/2008, -0/+6Austin really has a problem with homeless people. I live in Dallas, but I often go to Austin. I might see one panhandler on a 20 minute drive in Dallas, while in Austin I'll probably see 5 panhandlers on the same drive. I once saw a panhandler wearing an Abercrombie & Fitch shirt, $200 Jordans and he had a really nice watch on. You could also tell that he was well fed, well exercised and took a shower daily. Yet people were giving the guy money.
        • mikesbaker, on 04/26/2008, -0/+2its a rich college kid pretending to poor.
      • mikesbaker, on 04/26/2008, -0/+2you are talking about the college kids pretending to be homeless on the strip across from the school right?
    • jasonmantey, on 04/26/2008, -11/+1Ditto in Austin, TX.
      Coming from Detroit (city, not suburbs), I find it pretty easy to tell the difference. Plus, it's somewhat harder to feel bad for the homeless here, compared to up north where the winters are ~0 degrees F. I keep water in my car to give out if it is really hot outside.
    • InfamousAtheist, on 04/26/2008, -1/+4Plenty of them here in Houston too.
      I once watched a panhandler leave his busy intersection spot and get in a car a few blocks away.
    • achoi, on 04/26/2008, -1/+5And in NYC also, lots in particular nearby the AOL Time-Warner building by Columbus Circle.
      I've been wondering if it was some kind of art performance thing, particularly when one started making calls on his cell phone as he was sitting on the corner with a cardboard sign.
    • Toshibi, on 04/26/2008, -0/+10I live in a small southern town, and I work at the only all night convenience store. All of the beggars use me to decide their turf wars, but I try to run off all of them. Basically, they wait and watch to see if I'll get rid of the first one to arrive. When I do, the next one comes up and takes his place. The process continues.Some won't even bother coming up if I'm working, but on my nights off the place is crawling with them. All of them are trying to get money for beer. Every last one of them.
    • glxyjones, on 04/26/2008, -1/+17This makes me want to go out to where she (or any other panhandlers like this) are panhandling and hold a big cardboard sign up that says "LIAR --->"
    • nocash23, on 04/26/2008, -15/+6i beat the crap out of someone acting homeless once because i gave him money and realized it was a "joke". he offered me money to stop but i preffered to finish the beating. in the end i too thought the "joke" was funny : )
    • DesignEx, on 04/26/2008, -0/+5Just the other day a "homeless guy" walked up to my car with his hat out looking for change. I saw him turn around before he walked up and he had a cell phone holder clipped on to his pants. I asked him about it, he denied it, then I asked him to turn around, and he got a guilty look on his face and walked away. He is on the same road every week day from 3-6pm looking to get money off the working people just leaving their jobs. Interestingly, that was the last time I saw him with the cell phone on display.

      Judging by the number of people who give in to his tactics, I wouldn't doubt that he makes more during these peak hours than many of the people he is taking money from.
    • nycmac247, on 04/26/2008, -1/+3Reed College!!!
      • colincornaby, on 04/26/2008, -0/+2Obscure reference +1!
        • K3ITHK, on 04/26/2008, -0/+1Want to enlighten me?
          • colincornaby, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1Reed College is a school in Portland where the students are known to be very.... liberal... and... free...
      • xoxojustin, on 04/26/2008, -0/+1Reed students are too busy getting ***** up and studying to panhandle. They're much more likely to deal drugs if they need money.
    • havokzero, on 04/26/2008, -1/+2You are one lucky person! Portland is my favorite city in the NW. Why isn't Portland more popular than Seattle?
    • glittler, on 04/26/2008, -0/+1I've actually seen this girl. I almost gave her money.
    • wicketr, on 04/28/2008, -0/+3Next time you see her, dump a slushy on her head
  • MrDuke77, on 04/26/2008, -12/+249Can the IRS nail her shiftless butt for tax evasion? I bet she also collects unemployment checks and food stamps courtesy of your bottomless-pocket taxpayer!
    • chromerium, on 04/26/2008, -1/+36Yep. If she's banking it, they can look at it as an income and charge her for back taxes.
      • EwMo, on 04/26/2008, -3/+15But they have to prove it too. This video evidence might help, but still...
        • SlayerX91, on 04/26/2008, -6/+2No, it's not income, seriously its pretty much as if its birthday money, you can't get taxed for gifts and essentially thats what all that money is. Its like every day is her birthday. I mean i don't get taxed for money i get on my birthday from relatives or on christmas.
          • EwMo, on 04/26/2008, -2/+4Are you kidding? The gift tax is enormous, nearly 50%. Game shows, reality shows, lottery and prize money all fall under this category. Technically, you're supposed to declare the gift and pay the government, but common sense halts them from fully enforcing that.
          • chaosium, on 04/26/2008, -1/+4"No, it's not income, "

            Gosh you're stupid.
          • Jashobeam5, on 04/27/2008, -2/+1Actually gifts from individuals, not companies, are taxed starting at around 24K from EACH person. So if 20 people give you 10,000 as a gift, it's not income. Also, money given in the spirit of charity to those begging is not taxable under current US tax laws. One court case in the 1960s mentioned this. The person in question was not taxed on gifts because the money or property was given as gifts and nothing more.
          • chromerium, on 04/28/2008, -0/+1If she's not declaring it, even if she falls under some threshold, she's prosecutable.

            You have to declare everything, including gifts, otherwise it's tax evasion.
      • TrevorPace, on 04/26/2008, -3/+2Umm I was under the impression that you don't pay taxes on gifts...
        • ViperX116, on 04/27/2008, -0/+3It's not exactly a gift. She's out there earning it so it's income.
    • smotpoker, on 04/26/2008, -1/+8You have to work six months to get unemployment in most states, she could be getting food stamps though (depending on how much her household makes and whether she lies on the application forms)
    • Spoomeister, on 04/26/2008, -18/+2Can I nail her shiftless butt? She's kinda cute.
    • DrWyckoff, on 04/26/2008, -2/+5As long as no one person gives her more than 12,000$, I believe she is safe from the IRS as the donations count as gifts. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gift_tax_in_the_Unite ...
      • twinklyJesus, on 04/26/2008, -0/+13who would give her 12,000 dollar signs?
      • chaosium, on 04/26/2008, -2/+2It's income, not a series of micro-gifts.
      • wicketr, on 04/28/2008, -0/+1It's like taking a penny from the penny jar.
        You mean from the cripple people?
        No! The pennies for everyone!
    • manova, on 04/26/2008, -1/+7If we had the Fair Tax, it wouldn't matter how she got the money.
      • iseecheeses, on 04/27/2008, -1/+1Correct. And if she got it through selling drugs (which wouldn't be subject to the sales tax) it wouldn't matter. And if she got it through selling her body (which wouldn't be subject to the sales tax) that wouldn't matter either. Or if she sold stolen goods (which wouldn't be subject to the sales tax) that wouldn't matter either.

        I don't see how turning her panhandling into a tax-legitimate business solves the real problem.
  • mmmpeaches, on 04/26/2008, -6/+157i'd enjoy seeing her forced to perform community service or volunteer work- just so she can experience honest work without receiving any financial benefit...
    • JonestownTea, on 04/26/2008, -1/+5I think there was an episode of King of the Hill about this and that is what Bobby had to do after faking being a bum.
      • Blandyman, on 04/26/2008, -0/+5They had it on the other day. He had to return all the money one by one. But then he gave it to the "cool" panhandlers (jerks!) and they took it and used it for themselves. Oh, that Bobby!
    • JohnDakota, on 04/26/2008, -2/+5She's a jerk, but she hasn't broken any laws so they can't force her to do community service, and volunteer work is voluntary! You can't force people to do volunteer work.
      • B3000, on 04/26/2008, -0/+3Couldn't her actions be construed as fraud?
        • Jashobeam5, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1Yes. Conning people out of money is a crime such as when people start fake charities. I don't know if there is any law against staying you are broke when you are not.
    • MrSidnet, on 04/26/2008, -0/+5You can force people to do "community service" though.
    • pugs909, on 04/26/2008, -0/+2I live in NYC and there are a lot of homeless people here. I walk by the same homeless woman on my way onto the subway each morning, and each day she lays there festering in bugs and her own feces and urine. She is missing most of her teeth and does not have the capacity to complete a sentence, let alone apply for food stamps. I give her my spare change, and when I don't I wish I had. Even if she spends it on liquor, at least it will get her through the day so she does not have to rot to death in pain.

      Don't let these pompous newscasters, and the slut in utah, allow you to justify a lack of compassion. Ignoring the homeless is not the righteous thing to do.
      • Jashobeam5, on 04/27/2008, -0/+3God bless you for your giving.
        Matthew 25:44-45 "They also will answer, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?' "He will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.'
  • marcintomasz, on 04/26/2008, -5/+27I see them here too, you see them walk to their car!

    This woman on this story, they calculate she makes 50 dollars an hour at times
    • Akaji, on 04/26/2008, -2/+10What's unfortunate about this is that it repulses me from giving anything to the homeless, considering the possibility that they're lying. Granted, there are other ways to help - donating to or volunteering at soup kitchens, for example.
      • WilliamDavis, on 04/26/2008, -2/+10I usually just buy them a bottle of cheap wine. That way, I know where the money's going.
      • whataboutdave, on 04/26/2008, -0/+12The point of the story was not that you can't give, it was that you should give to places like shelters and soup kitchens.
    • cypherus, on 04/26/2008, -2/+4Her approach is all wrong! She needs to start washing windows like this guy http://www.5min.com/Video/How-to-Get-Rich-as-a-Win ...
    • jeffdjohnson, on 04/26/2008, -0/+9I actually saw a "homeless" dude with a cell phone yesterday, here in LA.
      • IllBeBack, on 04/26/2008, -6/+2That's because a cell phone only costs $15 a month, while a house costs more than $1,000 a month. Can you do that simple math?
        • whataboutdave, on 04/26/2008, -0/+5Who is he calling? I would think food or medicine would be more important.
          • Jashobeam5, on 04/27/2008, -1/+1If you do the pay by the minute plans, you can end up spending under $10 a month if you are only using the phone for under a 1/2 hour per month. You can get one of these phones for $10.
    • megamod, on 04/26/2008, -2/+3I don't want to seem ignorant since I do know that the market is pretty bad right now, but I hate even real bums that say they just can't get a job. It just seems like the easy way out and I personally just think most of them are just lazy bastards.
  • Argentian, on 04/26/2008, -3/+69Exposure is the one thing these graft artists cannot handle. Bring your camera out and record them from a distance. Then, go closer and start filming them from a safe distance but so they see you are doing it.
    Hell, in Las Vegas there were fights over the professional panhandlers over who would get the best corner. One expose showed how one guy who looked like a cerebal palsey victim staggering along the roadside collecting an estimated 200-300 dollars a day. Then they recorded a snippet of a fight between him and a 'Homeless Veteran' for that turf. The guy was young, wiry and not in the slightest afflicted with any obvious physical problems...until he was back 'at work' later that day.
    • waylandchin, on 04/26/2008, -38/+4Regardless of whether or not they are homeless or not, you gotta give it to them, it's hard work. Standing there - exposed to the elements. People have their own reasons for choosing what they do to earn money. Who are we to judge?
      • DerekkL, on 04/26/2008, -4/+21Who are we to judge? We are the ones that have legitimate jobs and if we were out there, it would be because I'm really homeless and I actually need money.
      • pasher1221, on 04/26/2008, -1/+15Megan, is that you?
      • smotpoker, on 04/26/2008, -4/+2@wayland - it would be fine if she wasn't being dishonest in how she does it, IMO
        @derekk - Homelessness isn't the only reason people might need money bad enough to panhandle
        • whataboutdave, on 04/26/2008, -2/+4Other than disease its the only legitimate reason in my eyes. I don't want to fund someone's substance abuse habit.
          • smotpoker, on 04/26/2008, -6/+1Despite the fact that we are in a recession? Even before that it has been very hard for certain people in certain places to secure/maintain employment (primarily in smaller towns or specific situations)

            Even with a job, in many places min wage is not enough to pay rent *and* utilities and finding a 2nd job could be problematic and take some time. Sometimes unexpected expenses can be a factor as well... (legal fees, hunger, car repair/gas/impounding, etc). I'm sure there are others that neither of us have considered
          • Silentnite85, on 04/26/2008, -1/+6What does this being a recession have to do with the fact that people don't want to fund someone's addiction?
          • Lavarock, on 04/26/2008, -1/+2It's in a city. She has a house, and nice clothes. Why can't we seem to realize this? She is STEALING.
          • TonyLocNE, on 04/26/2008, -1/+2To begin, we are not in a recession. A recession is 2 consecutive quarters (6 months) of declining GDP, something of which we haven't had. Inflation may be high and people are having a tough time making the cut, but placing the blame on others' is the wrong way to look at that. Minimum wage is not the issue here whatsoever either.. Everyone always claims that by raising minimum wage, it will help people be able to purchase more goods and help with living expenses... This couldn't be farther from the truth. By raising the minimum wage, you effectively increase costs of goods and services by the same proportionate amounts. Raising the minimum wage also increases unemployment because the costs of production increase. In result, companies fire employees and produce less of a given product, or they will outsource if they are able to. All this nevertheless, decreases supply which increases demand which will raise prices on a normal good.. I suggest that you liberal pinkos think of a new excuse to not wanting to work, because simple economics annihilates your argument. Get a job, work hard, move up, get paid. Simple as that.
          • smotpoker, on 04/27/2008, -3/+1@Silentnite: What does not wanting to fund someone's drug [ab]use have to do with imminent legitimate needs?

            @Lavarock: We were not speaking of this instance specifically. whataboutdave suggested homelessness was the only legitimate reasons someone might want/need to panhandle - I simply suggested a few others

            @TonyLocNE: I am not trying to argue semantics or economics, I am simply stating that obtaining [new] jobs is not something everyone has the resources or ability to do [instantly], in many cases simply due to local economy and/or their backgrounds. Even when it can be done fairly quick it still takes weeks to get paid in most cases and many needs cannot wait that long

            "I suggest that you liberal pinkos think of a new excuse to not wanting to work, because simple economics annihilates your argument. Get a job, work hard, move up, get paid. Simple as that."

            Your retarded little rant proves you obviously have no idea what my argument was and that certainly was no counter to it. He said "no other legitimate need" I said: "here are a few", period.
          • TonyLocNE, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1smotpoker- To begin very plainly, no where at all did you say "here are a few" until you posted your last comment.
            Second of all, you came out and blatantly said, "Despite the fact that we are in a recession?" A comment to which I corrected you because you don't seem to understand rudimentary economics.
            Last thing also, and its something I forgot to mention in my first post is this.. Did you ever stop to think that the reason there are not as many jobs in small towns and people have a hard time finding jobs in small towns is because the ***** town IS small as you mentioned.
            You are a retard just as I had said before.
        • TonyLocNE, on 04/26/2008, -1/+2hey buddy, I know you're not high enough to not be able to see the reply buttons........ USE THEM
          • smotpoker, on 04/27/2008, -3/+1Nor am I stupid enough to give two ***** what a close-minded fascist scumbag such as yourself wants me to do.
      • aeck, on 04/26/2008, -2/+2I guess we also should also give to advertisement sign holders, in Glendale I've seen them stand in the sun for hours, probably for pretty lousy pay.
      • xoxojustin, on 04/26/2008, -1/+4People get paid for hard work not because it's hard, but because it's useful to someone.
      • Lavarock, on 04/26/2008, -1/+3They aren't *producing* anything, they're just wasting resources stealing money from working people. In that video, one of the people who gave her money lived in a TRAILER. She took money from the POOR to go shopping at the mall. I am going judge on that one.
  • CaptainAmerica1, on 04/26/2008, -20/+43In any society, there will be those who believe "This is good enough for me" regarding panhandling and welfare. They have no intention of being productive members of society.

    As the "do-gooders" in government hand out more and more of our tax dollars to this chick and millions like her, there will be more and more who want some of that too, because it's "good enough" for them as well.

    In the meantime, taxpayers suffer because the government can't bring itself to stop, or even slow down, spending.
    • begbie2, on 04/26/2008, -20/+6And what are you doing that is so "productive?"
      I bet you're more of burden to this planet than any homeless person.
      How much garbage do you produce a day? (not talking about your posts)
      I bet a lot more than a bum.
      You really think throwing an occasional dollar or two (instead of spending it on, say, one more drink) to a bum is a serious "burden?"
      You sound like a 9 year old boy with a Republican daddy.
      • imacoder, on 04/26/2008, -2/+10Whoosh!!! You have scrapes on your face from that tree. You are too stupid to recognize the difference between giving by personal choice and the slippery slope of government entitlement programs. Charity is best handled by means more more efficient than government.
        • ryanisnotsuper, on 04/26/2008, -2/+4Obviously not. The video shows the market giving a bunch of money to a girl who doesn't need it. That seems less efficient than government.
          • Jashobeam5, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1ROTFL! Nothing in this world is less efficient than government. Take a look at the amount of tax money spent on poverty in this nation. Is poverty dropping or increasing after all these decades? It's still increasing. Why? Because there are people who will accept a check from the government without trying to become financially stable. Now, take a charity that with donations alone helps the homeless. They build a shelter, a soup kitchen and an education center to help people learn new skills to get a job. Most of the workers are volunteers, and budgets are met while people are sheltered, fed and trained to get back on their feet and in turn give back all without a single bureaucrat or miles of red tape clogging up the works. Guess which situation is more likely to lead to changed lives and people moving from poverty to stability.
        • kaluzak, on 04/26/2008, -0/+2@Ryanisnotsuper
          1) Assumes that she's not getting some form of government aid as well. Is she is, then at the very worst, they're both equally inefficient.

          2) The market, while at times being inefficient, is much quicker to rectify and change course. Thanks to this exclusive, and the internet, I wouldn't be surprised if she saw a huge decrease in income from the market, effectively putting her out of business. And, since she's not homeless, I seriously doubt she's going to be moving and actually BECOME homeless just to continue to ruse of actually BEING homeless.
      • ozydingo, on 04/26/2008, -0/+14Dude...I'm a liberal by any measure of the word, but he is right in his point. It's a simple problem of motivation. The easier it is to get handouts, the less motivated people are to work themselves into a position where they don't need it. Cpt American isn't talking about those who are in genuinely severe hard times, just those who voluntarily accept to be supported by programs intended to help on those in genuine need. Charities don't work unless they're run intelligently.

        Imagine, for a second, if all those dollar-or-twos, across the country and the globe, went into something else---anything else--that's be good money spent. If this girl makes roughly $26k per year, how much total do you think is being wasted nationwide or worldwide? You could easily sponsor some kids' education. Invest in medical research. Expand infrastructure. Anything--then perhaps (hopefully) you might change your tune about the significance of that money.
    • nezroy, on 04/26/2008, -8/+14And in a civilized society that takes care of all its members, you accept the fact that there will be a certain level of corruption, graft, and waste in dealing out social services. While you can do what is possible to prevent this, you cannot remove it entirely at the cost of degrading the services. You will never eliminate it, and it must simply be accepted as part of the cost of providing humane social care to the entire population.

      Or you can take the American attitude and believe that a single dime misspent warrants scraping the entire program. Of course, funny how this only seems to work for programs targeted to the poor... once you get rich enough, it doesn't matter how much graft and corruption you build into your system, the population just keeps lapping it up. Haliburton contracts, anyone?
      • MixMastaKooz, on 04/26/2008, -4/+3I couldn't agree more. When you compare how much money we give out in corporate welfare and tax breaks, the rich in this country are the true welfare queens.
      • macdady843, on 04/26/2008, -0/+4the only reason the wealthy have large tax breaks is because they pay a higher percentage of a higher wage when they pay taxes... sooo when they get a break of a couple percent then it's a lot of money.. the rich pay plenty of taxes so don't give me this crap that they get all the breaks and the poor get nothing.. they're living off the rich..

        this explains my point pretty well -- http://gregmankiw.blogspot.com/2007/03/barstool-ta ...
      • nakani, on 04/26/2008, -0/+3A civilized country respects its Constitution, and ours does not include Welfare at the federal level. Humanity will only prosper once we start to take responsibility for ourselves, and offer others opportunity rather than handouts.
        • LogicalWisdom, on 04/26/2008, -0/+1Absolutely, you do no one, and I mean no one a favor when you give them the option of being a worthless bum. For all the people who feel the need, by all means give your money away if it makes you feel good, but stop taking my money and wasting it.
    • allahuakbar, on 04/26/2008, -4/+3That's the problem with all welfare - 90% of the people who receive are perfectly able to earn it themselves.
      • Silentnite85, on 04/26/2008, -2/+4Mandatory Drug test to receive your paycheck. And how about place a population limit on people who can't support their kids? Instead of continuously giving ***** parent's $500+ a month to ignore the kids they keep popping out, place a cap on it.
      • jessehadden, on 04/26/2008, -2/+4Source? I'm tired of all the Rush Limbaugh-inspired lies about welfare that are resulting in a demonstrably successful program being scrapped. People suffer because of these "off-the-cuff" statistics.
      • nofrickenway, on 04/26/2008, -2/+1How about subsidizing the "jobs noone wants" . If someone who is capable of working wants welfare they have to go to an EMPLOYMENT office isntead of an UNemployment office. The difference being that the former looks for a job instead of looking to hand you a check.

        If you get a crap job, then you get a check to even things out from the government instead of a free one. Kick out all the Illegals (don't read Mexicans here). I'm all for helping any outsider but you can't be against NAFTA and be FOR driving down wages through cheap illegal labor. Someone will take those jobs if it means they get to eat. I don't see illegals picking grapes at Home Depot, they are doing construction, are there no contractors left?
        • jessehadden, on 04/26/2008, -1/+1How about subsidizing education, rather than exploiting the desperate for manual labor? No matter how you slice it to make it sound compassionate, it's the same crummy thing that every heartless society has done to its underclass. We live in a world of abundance, yet we are led into artificial scarcity by our misleadership, and then we say that people should be willing to do anything to eat. And then we wonder why people don't want to participate in society.
        • senatorpjt, on 04/26/2008, -0/+1This is just welfare for the corporations that don't want to pay their employees.
    • homercles337, on 04/26/2008, -0/+4How about we start by dismantling corporate welfare? I bet thats where you will howl like a banshee in opposition.
      • Jashobeam5, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1If by corporate welfare you mean money given from the US gov't to corporations, then yes, let's stop that. If they cannot stay in business from their own earnings, then they should go out of business. If you mean tax breaks so corporations can afford to expand production and thus hire more US workers, then no, I want that to continue.
    • hendo1769, on 04/26/2008, -0/+1*****. That girl was probably in highschool. Can you imagine a highschool job that would pay $50 an hour? It says nothing about her intention or lack thereof to be a productive member of society.
    • HonestAbe, on 04/26/2008, -0/+1She lives with her mom.
  • amanilaenvelope, on 04/26/2008, -5/+254what a bitch.
    • glxyjones, on 04/26/2008, -0/+24somebody needs to hold a big cardboard sign out next to here saying "LIAR--->"
    • Phyraxus, on 04/26/2008, -0/+14I wouldn't give money to her because she looks WAY too fat to be homeless.
    • jpy321, on 04/26/2008, -0/+5That's why I NEVER give to panhandlers. If you want to be charitable, give to an organization that can actually make a difference in people's lives, not enable them.
      • EvilFerret, on 04/27/2008, -0/+4You don't have to give them cash. When I see them I'll usually stop by McDonalds and buy them a few burgers. Once I saw one with a dog by his side, so I stopped by the grocery store and got him a bag of dog food as well.
    • Switchnig, on 04/26/2008, -1/+6what a ***** *****.
    • snolan1990, on 04/27/2008, -0/+2You took the words right out of my mouth

      seriously what a huge bitch
  • kalleanka, on 04/26/2008, -11/+25Seriously, now I feel so good for never paying anything to "homeless" people.
    Sure I feel sorry for the ones who really are homeless, but donations should be given to trustworthy organizations.
    • tomtom10, on 04/26/2008, -17/+14and that was the purpose of the story.. making all you guys feel good about driving past homeless people.
      oh thank god, now we can sleep at night.

      you gotta be pretty ***** retarded to attack homeless people like this reporter, no defense to that girl.. but this video hurts ALL homeless, poor people looking for food and shelter. how can you defend that?
      • ShadowMerchant, on 04/26/2008, -10/+4***** the homeless. Work or starve.
      • ozydingo, on 04/26/2008, -2/+10How does this video hurt the homeless? There is honestly more they could be doing for money than standing at streets. The one's I'll give money to (occasionally) are the ones who do something, learn some skill, and busk for money instead of just begging. If you're just standing or sitting there, no dice.
        • cersad, on 04/26/2008, -1/+2This video hurts the homeless because it provides a single anecdote and makes the implication that it can be applied to the homeless population at large. One dishonest girl doesn't equate to anything, and the newscaster doesn't site any statistics, but only implies (with the help of an interviewee) that most homeless people are panhandlers and most panhandlers are liars. Nowhere in the report did he mention how you might be able to give money charitably without wasting it on people who don't need it.
      • STARTSOMETHING, on 04/26/2008, -4/+5Theirs jobs everywhere especially in cities. Apply, most people are homeless because they cant break a habit.
        • V2012, on 04/26/2008, -0/+2What business do you know of that will hire a dirty, scruffy ol' vagrant? It's bad for business, especially if the person has been panhandling for a while. You don't buy your coffee from a big scruffy guy whose rough lifestyle shows on his face, you buy it from a sexy upper-middle class girl who's never known hardship. Seriously, try getting a job if you've panhandled for a while in the business district.
          It's also worthy of note that a lot of people are homeless because of mental problems that either make them unable to work in "civilized" society or make them personally feel unfit for anything other than what they already do.
          • Jashobeam5, on 04/27/2008, -1/+1I've known people who would give such "vagrants" a job in a heartbeat. I've seen a small business owner bail employees out of jail. I saw one 20/20 report (or one like that show) where people with signs were offered work. All they had to do was light yardwork. ONE guy showed up. The rest wanted to continue to beg rather than do light work for cash.
    • fascfoo, on 04/26/2008, -6/+5Yeah, you sure are a saint aren't you. Tomtom is absolutely correct. The vast majority of people on the streets are NOT there by choice. I'm glad seeing this video has granted you a get-out-of-guilt-free card because obviously they don't REALLY need the money.

      Hell why don't these bastards just go GET A JOB or DO SOMETHING WITH THEIR LIVES, right?? Since you're such a self-made man that you never ever required compassion or assistance in your life before, right??
    • B3000, on 04/26/2008, -2/+2And how often do you give money to trustworthy organizations? Or just buy someone a sandwich?
  • jontalisman, on 04/26/2008, -12/+184She's corporate CEO material, if you ask me. lol
    • OfNumbers, on 04/26/2008, -8/+1That's the one time I +1 you ever.
      • OfNumbers, on 04/26/2008, -3/+3So because jontalisman runs around saying Obama is a ***** *****, a terrorist, etc., I'm wrong for being skeptical about + modding him? Rock on. Digg this one down too, idiots.
        • Erik1, on 04/26/2008, -0/+1Huh?

          You are giving him one friggen digg, how is that going to affect anything?
      • jontalisman, on 04/27/2008, -1/+2How dare you! I have never written or said anything like that about Obama. In fact, I've said I will vote for him if he's the Democratic nominee. However, it's my belief he will lose the general election for a number of different reasons. Hillary is my choice and polls show she can win against McCain!. Whatever happens, the Repugnants must be defeated in November no matter what.
    • govsucks, on 04/27/2008, -0/+2No, she has the work ethic of a democrat, she'd never make it in the corporate world
      • Jashobeam5, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1Most middle class, old fashioned Democrats I've known have been just as hardworking as the Republicans I have known. Studies show Dems give to charities less, though.
  • Renork, on 04/26/2008, -30/+43Regardless of how much of a bitch the girl is it is very irresponsible reporting to give her address imo.
    • byrdgang, on 04/26/2008, -4/+4They didn't actually give out the address. They only said what neighborhood she lives in.
      • PhillyMJS, on 04/26/2008, -0/+4Start watching the video again at the 1:50 mark. They give her exact street address.
  • rrouse, on 04/26/2008, -26/+18I've lived in San Francisco and seen people eating out of garbage cans. They eat the fast food that you throw away. You can look at someone and tell if they are ***** up. When eat out of garbage your brain stops working correctly after a few weeks. You can't think well enough to get out of the streets and you start stinking like piss. They to fake that. Some these people need to be in hospitals.
    • CaptainAmerica1, on 04/26/2008, -4/+82Please don't tell me that the homeless in SF have to eat out of garbage cans. SF has got to have one of the most generous food and shelter programs for the homeless in the US. I found over 40 organizations in SF that provide food for the needy. If they are eating out of garbage cans, they're doing it because they want to, not because they need to.

      Here's the bottom line, if you're homeless in SF, you won't go hungry. Here's some of the organizations providing food for the homeless in SF:

      Bay Area Women's and Children's Center (BAWCC)
      Bayview-Hunter's Point Multipurpose Senior Services Center
      Canned Foods (Grocery Outlet)
      Catholic Charities - Broad Street - San Francisco Adult Day Support Program
      Catholic Charities - Ocean Avenue - OMI Senior Services
      City Impact
      Continuum HIV Day Services
      Curry Senior Center
      Daily Meals
      Donaldina Cameron House
      Economic Opportunity Council (EOC)
      Episcopal Community Services - Canon Kip Senior Center
      Food Not Bombs
      Glide Memorial Church
      Golden Gate Senior Services
      Haight Ashbury Food Program - Food Service Center
      Homeless Church
      Jewish Family and Children's Services (JFCS)
      Kimochi Nutrition and Hot Meals Program & Senior Center
      Larkin Street Youth Services (LSYS) - Drop-In - Sutter Street
      Martin de Porres- House of Hospitality
      Meals On Wheels of San Francisco, Inc.
      North Beach Citizens
      Northern California Service League (NCSL)
      Rosa Parks Senior Center
      San Francisco Department of Human Service - Food Stamps Program
      San Francisco Department of Human Services - Food Stamps Program
      San Francisco Department of Public Health - Women, Infant, and Children (WIC)
      San Francisco Food Bank - Emergency Food Box Program
      San Francisco Homeless Resource
      San Francisco Senior Center - Downtown Branch
      Self-Help for the Elderly
      St. Anthony Dining Room - 45 Jones Street
      St. Anthony Foundation - 121 Golden Gate Avenue
      St. John Coltrane African Orthodox Church
      St. Vincent de Paul Society - Ozanam Center
      St. Vincent de Paul Society - Vincentian Desk
      Temenos Catholic Worker
      United Council Of Human Services, The - Bayview Hunters Point Multiservice Center
      Welcome Ministry
      Women Organized to Make Abuse Nonexistent, Inc. (WOMAN, INC.)
      • robocop1, on 04/26/2008, -7/+24Yet no homeless person will read that list on here.
        • bob12321, on 04/26/2008, -2/+22Public Library.
        • pasher1221, on 04/26/2008, -1/+19If I remebr correctly, the homeless shelters have internet access in SF.
      • geartype2, on 04/26/2008, -2/+23this is a prime example of why I don't hand out a ***** dollar to any of them on the streets. I hand out cards with the address of soup kitchens.


        ... unless they do something truely worth while: like the bush man!
        • TrentDeux, on 04/26/2008, -0/+9Hah! That guy is no bum, he is an old school vaudeville entertainer of the highest quality, deserves every penny he gets...
      • geodescent, on 04/26/2008, -0/+4Yeah but do the shelters serve burgers and fries? Just sayin...
      • kickelephant, on 04/26/2008, -0/+2Some homeless people REFUSE help. A large percentage of homeless people suffer from some mental illness. I believe that rrouse saw someone eating out of a garbage can. Just because a city has great programs for the needy, doesn't mean that they ALL are going to utilize it.
        • CaptainAmerica1, on 04/26/2008, -0/+1So, what's next? Giving each bum their personal "minder" to ensure they don't eat out of garbage cans?
          • Jashobeam5, on 04/27/2008, -0/+2It used to be called family and community.
      • doughboy334, on 04/26/2008, -0/+2I agree with Captain America, I volunteer at the SF Food Bank
      • kawaiirobo, on 04/26/2008, -0/+2CaptainAmerica, your my hero.
    • geodescent, on 04/26/2008, -0/+2Bah
    • BetterOffEd, on 04/26/2008, -0/+5Precisely. I bring them food all the time. Not money. The genuine needy people accept it and thank me. Some panhandlers actually REFUSE food. After that, they can't even look me in the eye...
      • katpants, on 04/26/2008, -0/+5A man living on Fisherman's Wharf refused the calamari my friend bought him because he doesn't eat seafood ... why are you living on Fisherman's Wharf??
        • CaptainAmerica1, on 04/26/2008, -0/+3Geez...picky bums...what's next?
    • bobartig, on 04/26/2008, -0/+2I work in San Francisco, so I walk the same 20 city blocks every day from the Montgomery bart through the financial district, and up to the edge of Chinatown where my office is. After about a year, I recognize almost all of the beggars, and I think they recognize me as well (who knows). I don't hand out money to the panhandlers because they reek of alcohol, and I don't see giving them a buck as "helping" them in any substantive way.
    • SenoraObscura, on 04/26/2008, -1/+2Dumpster diving can be a legitimate foodsource; people who utilize dumpsters generally know how to minimize their microbe exposure by targeting sealed, boxed, and fresh items. A lot of punk, anti-corporate kids who aren't even "poor" or "homeless" tend to dumpster dive, by targeting the manufacturing site, you capitalize off of fresh, unspoiled overproduction.
      • CaptainAmerica1, on 04/27/2008, -0/+2Wow...I wonder what these punk, anti-corporate kids will be when they grow up.
  • Scheissen, on 04/26/2008, -23/+10Why is this news? this is what welfare is for millions of Americans.
    • galeninjapan, on 04/26/2008, -2/+17Welfare in america is pretending to be homeless and hope for handouts?
      • smotpoker, on 04/26/2008, -3/+3Unless you have kids or a documented disability...

        Noone gets welfare *just* for being unemployed. $150 in foodstamps max (assuming you can manage to apply for 5 jobs per week and make it to social services appts)
        • cdahlkvist, on 04/26/2008, -2/+4You must not be from Minnesota. Worst welfare system ever.

          You can get welfare without a disability and there are no "social service appointments". You only need to prove that you tried to get a job. Typically show proof of one failed interview and you are in the clear.

          The welfare here is so bad that Illinois sends their refuse here to collect welfare. They call our city "Moneyapolis".
          • Jashobeam5, on 04/27/2008, -1/+2Dugg down for calling people "refuse."

            I agree the welfare system needs to be changed so that only those who need it get it.
          • smotpoker, on 04/27/2008, -0/+2Hm... I didn't realize there was such a drastic difference between any two states in the country... I wonder if comparing the various demographics, economies, time frames, crime etc would indicate much..

            Anyway, the three states I have specific knowledge of are way harder and impossible to get any money from without a kid or disability. Even with a disability you have to reapply 2-3 times and it takes 6 months to process
          • cdahlkvist, on 04/28/2008, -1/+1Jasho,

            Ever hear of Emma Lazarus and The New Collosus? "The wretched refuse of your teeming shore"

            Refuse is not always a terrible term. I made reference to Illinois' "refuse" meaning those that Illinois does not want.

            Buried for being a douchenozzle.
  • uriman, on 04/26/2008, -10/+23There is a guy in Toronto who sit and shake on the corner of the financial district. He was loaded. He would park his luxury car and then change. He would then walk a couple of blocks, sit down and then shake. He also had a big screen TV in a mansionl
    • ThaDRD, on 04/26/2008, -1/+12I don't know why you are being dugg down, they showed a similar guy on Dateline or 20/20 years ago. He would park his brand new SUV a few blocks away and then walk to his corner to rake in hundreds a day.
      • ronnnysizemore, on 04/26/2008, -8/+1Notice how you saw this on television? As opposed to actually witnessing it.
        duh.
    • ronnnysizemore, on 04/26/2008, -9/+7If a man were so deranged that he lived in a mansion, and then went and humiliated himself to the point of begging for spare change, he deserves my dollar. *****, he deserves a friggin TV special.
      But of course, it's *****.
      duh.
    • mille716, on 04/26/2008, -3/+6I'm guessing you heard this story from your friend who heard it from his really close friend so it must be true, right?

      Look, your point is correct. Some panhandlers actually aren't homeless but your story is BS. Really, how could you know the size of his TV in his mansion?
    • Pozitrax, on 04/26/2008, -1/+4It wasn't a guy, it was a woman, they called her the shaking lady, and yes she did live in a nice condo apartment, and had a big screen tv. she's still probably out there suckering people into giving her money
    • BetterOffEd, on 04/26/2008, -0/+2Pics? Links? Anything?


      .
    • Vodka2389, on 04/26/2008, -3/+2Little known fact, that's how Bill Gates started out.
    • SpaceForRent, on 04/26/2008, -0/+1It was his wife... this was covered by the Star a few years back. Her husband would come pick her up everyday. They estimated that she brought in around $300 per day.
    • uriman, on 04/26/2008, -0/+3YES you skeptics. I did actually see this person live. I didn't realize that he/she was a fake until this news report
      http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNew ...
      "...collects about $2,500 a week..."
    • ecidnac, on 04/29/2008, -0/+1That link isn't working for me, but here's another one: http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/678638/posts
      I don't think I ever ran into her. I did, however, pass the sticker lady every day when I was going to school a couple of blocks away. 100% scam. Here's her story: http://forum.rpg.net/archive/index.php/t-167954.ht ...
    • mantony, on 05/01/2008, -0/+1i saw this guy in Houston who said he was homeless but i saw him get into a luxury car then drive to his mansion and watch his big screen TV then he answered his iphone in his kitchen where in his fridge he had bottles of the most expensive wines in the world that came from grapes in Italy and were made by little rats who all wore prada shoes for each one of their tiny feet and this prick would pee out this wine in a gold toilet where he would pee all over the toilet seat and then wipe off the seat with eeepcs then flush them down the toilet this guy was such a freaking douche and when i saw that i was so pissed off cause i gave him some of my change and from that day onwards after witnessing that i have never ever done shrooms again
  • skippyoh, on 04/26/2008, -1/+41There's a homeless guy in Portland who plays the guitar with only one arm, and he's not half bad either. He's the only homeless person I'll ever give money to.
    • chaosium, on 04/26/2008, -0/+18Talented buskers at least have a skill to offer the world, unlike the usual spanger kids.
    • ozydingo, on 04/26/2008, -0/+4There are also the talentless buskers, yet they seem to make just about as much. I've seen someone frequency a subway stop here in Boston and would just strum random chords. I guess at least they're trying?
    • crashbang, on 04/26/2008, -3/+3How magnanimous of you.
      It is unbelievable the vitriol that something like this brings out in us Americans. We hate the homeless because we think they are somehow getting a free ride. So we can then look down upon them and say " I am better than you." Homeless shelters suck. Degrading yourself to get assistance sucks. I know I know none of YOU would ever do that because you all such hardworking types and whatnot, but you don't know any of these peoples problems or issues. Thank you and good night.
      • chaosium, on 04/26/2008, -0/+1There are (completely unscientifically) three separate groups when you're dealing with "the homeless"

        The mentally ill and/or drug addicted and incapable of steady work, the temporarily displaced and capable of work, and the runaways/ "free spirits" that share a bit of the first category.

        I'll tell you what, it's much easier to assist the second category (which is the majority of the temporary homeless) than either of the others. The first requires lifelong care and assistance (and are of the majority of permanent homeless), and the third almost prefers the lifestyle. I knew a few punk/spanger/rail rider kids that still refuse to stick around one area for long, even the areas with the most state assistances for the homeless.

        Pretty much, it's a complicated problem, and giving money or not giving money to people you see on the street isn't making any long-term changes in anyone's life.
    • trogdorBURN, on 04/26/2008, -0/+1Wow, how does he do that?
    • V2012, on 04/26/2008, -0/+0Yeah, does he use a foot or something? Strum with his tongue?
      WE NEED DETAILS!
  • Awspire, on 04/26/2008, -8/+289You would think people would realize she's scamming. Ya know, the 50lbs of fat on her ass is kinda of a giveaway.
    • rebotfc, on 04/26/2008, -1/+20Well if you watched the clip, she pretends to be stranded in a strange town trying to get home.
      • Branyers, on 04/26/2008, -0/+7Right, she couldn't possibly use the "homeless and hungry" bit. She's obviously not missing any meals.
      • culbeda, on 04/26/2008, -1/+2It's easier to slag someone for their weight than it is to pay attention to the pesky little details.
    • MixMastaKooz, on 04/26/2008, -2/+3But what if she was emaciated? Would that give you an excuse to not give her money because she's on heroin?
    • NaitYevrah, on 04/26/2008, -1/+24Yeah.... giveaway to why her boyfriend kicked her out...
  • poopdigger, on 04/26/2008, -13/+5I think Hillary Clinton could learn from someone like this.
    • ozydingo, on 04/26/2008, -2/+4That was just unnecessary. Keep it related.
  • dawna67, on 04/26/2008, -4/+11Happens all the time here. They make at least $100 CDN/day
    • innocentsinner, on 04/26/2008, -6/+34So that's like, what, $500 US?

      ...man, Canadaian currency jokes aren't funny anymore :(
      • nezroy, on 04/26/2008, -7/+2Newsflash... they were never funny.
        • brownsound00, on 04/26/2008, -0/+12Second Newsflash, the Canadian dollar is 98 cents American.
      • whitemage, on 04/26/2008, -4/+1its not funny anymore because the american currency is tanking
      • culbeda, on 04/26/2008, -0/+4"...man, Canadaian currency jokes aren't funny anymore"
        They'll always be funny to somebody. Remember when they used to be funny to Americans? Good times... Good times...
      • V2012, on 04/26/2008, -1/+0More like $98
        Now THAT'S humor, capitalist!
        • Jashobeam5, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1How much is gas in Canada now?
          • brownsound00, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1ummm.. about a 1.18? i dont know i haven't filled up for a while.
  • insomniac8400, on 04/26/2008, -22/+3I can guarantee that not one pan handler I have seen is actually homeless. The people who give them money, disgusts me.
    • SLCondensed, on 04/26/2008, -2/+1you can't guarantee *****
      • insomniac8400, on 04/26/2008, -1/+2Yes I can. Because there are no real pan handlers anymore. and if you give them money, you are scum.
        • Jashobeam5, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1So, you are absolutely certain that there are NO real pan handlers anymore in the entire nation? What a very weird, and very easy to discount statement.
        • insomniac8400, on 04/27/2008, -0/+2The people who really just want a meal and a place to stay go to shelters. The people on the street are asking for free money because they do not want to have to get a real job. These people could have homes or may have lost their homes/apartments because they refused to work. Only give to shelters and charities, period. Because they weed out those just trying to exploit the system. If you see someone starving on the street, that is by choice. They just want booze instead of food.
    • JStraum, on 04/26/2008, -1/+2Man, you're one cold hearted sum bitch now aren't you!?!? Good luck to you - here's hope your shining star keeps shining...
  • JakeBC, on 04/26/2008, -10/+41How come the 'homeless' always seem to have sharpies to make signs with?
    • bob12321, on 04/26/2008, -1/+9Dollar store.
    • pinguwin, on 04/26/2008, -1/+27As a hitchhiker who often has to make a sign, I know you can go to any convenience store and bum some cardboard. They will invariably ask if you need a marker too.
  • mooninite, on 04/26/2008, -6/+31Her mom "doesn't know how to get her out of it?" Lock her in her room. If that fails, call the police, and if they refuse, keep calling and get her friends to call and report her. Parenting as we know it has gone down the tubes. I see little kids running wild in restaurants with the parents chatting away at their friends. It's unreal.
    • cdahlkvist, on 04/26/2008, -1/+38No. Kick her ass out. Make her homeless.
      • NinjaJoshy, on 04/26/2008, -0/+7Completely agree. She seems to enjoy the exploits of that lifestyle, lets see how much she likes having to actually live it.
    • HurricaneN0S, on 04/26/2008, -1/+7"Doesn't know how to get her out of it." She's raking in 26,000, you think her mom's gonna stop her? BS. Betcha the mom doesn't have a job either, just lives on welfare and her daughter's panhandling. Notice how she was flustered when the guy asked her? If she truly "couldn't stop her," she wouldn't be flustered, she'd probably be in tears. Maybe not in tears, but her reaction was more like trying to think of an excuse.
  • chaosium, on 04/26/2008, -4/+7Yeah, I've dealt with spangers all over the US but they've been particularly annoying in the pacific northwest. I think it's the dreads and all the obvious "***** work" motives here, at least the ones back in Florida had actual mental problems and drug addiction that kept them outside of mainstream society.
  • CkMaverick, on 04/26/2008, -19/+3I can haz 5 gold, pwease? Kayz, I be by bankz in case joo change jooz mindz.
  • DigablePlanet, on 04/26/2008, -4/+21What a bitch.
  • siszam, on 04/26/2008, -8/+16Smart girl. She knows how to make tax free money faster than most of us. Besides, I see the homeless people in my town sleeping under trees and in camps. There are many real homeless people so don't stop giving to them.
    • byrdgang, on 04/26/2008, -1/+6No, don't donate to homeless people directly. Give the money to charities instead (after researching the charities and their trustworthiness online, of course).
      • schwab002, on 04/26/2008, -0/+2*****, I buried this with a mis-click when trying to digg this up. This is by far the best advice on trying to help the poor and homeless without having to worry about having your money go to booze and/or drugs.

        The only time I ever give directly to the homeless is after leaving the grocery store...and that one time I gave a guy a tuque.
    • bobartig, on 04/26/2008, -0/+4Giving directly to homeless people as opposed to donating to a soup kitchen or rehabilitation center is inefficient. If you hand a begger $5, that might buy a meal from McDonalds, or half a cheap bottle of hooch. When you give that to a soup kitchen, it goes to buying carefully planned food in bulk, tax-free, and prepared by volunteers. Those dollars stretch and stretch and do a lot more good.
    • plasticAngel, on 04/26/2008, -1/+1Yes, perhaps giving to individuals on the street directly is inefficient, but that presumes a lot about the efficiency of the social services that they are un/able to obtain.

      The father of a high school friend of mine used to have McDonald's gift cards on hand at all times to hand out to those asking for money. That way, he could ensure they would use it to get a cup of coffee or something to eat, not "a cheap bottle of hooch." Then again, if you were dealing with the psychological trauma of living on the street, wouldn't you want to be drunk all the time too?
    • Lavarock, on 04/26/2008, -0/+3Wow plastic angel, great justification of alcoholism. I really gotta hand it to you there.
  • timisondigglol, on 04/26/2008, -5/+116I don't typically write huge digg comments, but this is a story that needs to be told...

    A few years ago I worked at this office that was next to an in 'n out burger. Beggars would stand at the corner and ask for money to buy food. It never phased me up until I saw this guy who was about my age (20-something) and somewhat healthy looking. For about months I kept seeing him thinking it was BS. Then his health visibly deteriorated and he ended up on crutches for whatever reason.

    Eventually, I left that job to go self employed full time. It was fun times, but the thought of that guy kept bugging me. So I finally decided to go back and see what his story was. The plan was to go up, offer to buy him lunch at in 'n out and see what his story was. I thought it might be cool to hear his story and at the same time give a hungry guy something to eat.

    I pulled up and there he was. I parked, walked up to him and he was counting bills. My first thought was "*****. He was scamming just like I thought." Yet I still decided to follow through and at least figure out what his story was.

    So I invited him to lunch. It turns out he had enough to eat. He just wants to get his teeth fixed. His teeth were almost completely rotted away. I asked him what his story was. He said him and his mom moved down to Mexico from San Clemente. He didn't want to be there anymore so he decided to make his way back up on his own. At the time of the "interview", he said that he was on his way out of that situation because he was being put in a housing project that will help him get a job.

    After talking to him, I insisted on buying him lunch and he still thankfully declined. I never saw the guy again. I have no problem helping homeless people if they plan on getting off their feet...otherwise you're just perpetuating a situation that nobody wants to be part of.

    It always takes a few people to ruin it for everyone else. There are real homeless people out there. Sometimes they just need a helping hand. If you don't want to give out money, buy them lunch. If you don't want to do that, donate time or money to a well established organization. Either way, I would rather gamble $1 just to know that it could possibly help someone get a bite to eat...
    • warin3dt, on 04/26/2008, -7/+5very well said :)
    • pasher1221, on 04/26/2008, -4/+107Not to be a jerk but from what you described (20 years old, deteriorating health, rotten teeth) it sounds like his real story is that he is a meth addict.
      • Epik, on 04/26/2008, -2/+13Possible but it doesn't change the fact that there are real homeless people out there. And the next time you see someone with a sign, you shouldn't be so quick to judge.
      • smotpoker, on 04/26/2008, -0/+15Likely but not definitely - and that doesn't make the rest untrue or invalid
      • pasher1221, on 04/26/2008, -0/+6Most shelters will not help people who are not clean. They do not want to enable their life style. Because of that I try to direct my resources to local shelters so I do not make somebodys problem worse.
        • rezist, on 04/26/2008, -0/+1I can't be sure about other states or NYC but when I lived in Rochester NY the Open Door Mission and a few soup kitchens were open to all you had to be in at a certain time though or they close the doors. If you were real F'ed up they probably would boot you or if you reeked of alcohol. At least you can eat and not freeze if you can't or won't stay clean. The shelters can't afford to drug screen everyone all day everyday.
      • timisondigglol, on 04/26/2008, -0/+4That's a very good point. Other signs included weight loss and what not. Its hard to say. However, I never went 6 months without eating well and brushing my teeth. I would also think if he were a meth addict, he would have been a little weirder and a little more opportunistic about my offer. He was just a normal guy like one of my friends. He was just dirty and trying to get back on his feet.

        Either way, you can only make the decision to help someone. It is up to them whether or not they abuse it.
    • kinerry, on 04/26/2008, -16/+5and that story had a point?
    • L.Jenkins, on 04/26/2008, -0/+2Here's my huge story:

      I was hanging out at a coffee shop one rainy afternoon, when a very ragged and distressed looking woman came in and sat herself down in the chair opposite me. She clasped her hands together on the table and launched into a story that began with, "I'm really sorry, I never like to ask people for favors, but..." She told me a long story about needing bus money to get her and her two young children back home. She was soaking wet and sobbing at times, and I really felt sorry for her.

      So I give her $10, which is all I had on me. And I felt really good the rest of the day for having helped someone in need when everyone else in the coffee shop pretended they didn't see her.

      About two weeks later at a different coffee shop way on the other side of town, the same woman came in, sat down, and gave me a near identical story. I let her tell the whole thing again, then told her she had already told me that story months ago. She scowled and said, "****," got up and left in a huff.

      Didn't feel too good the rest of that day.

      Same woman (only with a few less teeth, and a much crazier look) just pulled the same act on me, last week, YEARS after the first time in the first coffee shop. I told her to **** off.

      Another man approached me at two separate gas stations a few days apart with a different story. Needless to say, I will never give a handout to someone on the street ever again. Even for those truly in need, this is just not an acceptable way of asking for help. There are plenty of community shelters and programs to help you in situations like that.
    • PStuart, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1Mmm in n' out
  • smacksaw, on 04/26/2008, -3/+60Long story short, but when I lived in Salt Lake there was a family in our complex that begged for money. They made assloads of it. What they'd do is rope people in with a hard luck story and then ask for a cheque, something to help them get their car fixed or whatever. Something that would help them get a job. People would write cheques out of guilt, money they didn't have and would bounce and these guys would show up at the home asking for them to fund it or to go to the bank with them.

    They were unbelievable. They averaged about $3000 a day between the 2 adults and 2 kids and they basically bought drugs and alcohol for the entire complex of about 40 units. It was a party every day with these people. However, they did work about 4-8 hours per day. One thing is for sure, in a culture where people are trained to give away 10% of their income from birth, you have a good chance of fleecing them since they're used to giving it away. That's why they stayed in SLC. Abusing Mormon generosity.
    • OfNumbers, on 04/26/2008, -7/+1Mormon generosity doesn't seem to like being generous to everyone. And from what you say, it doesn't seem to be a new thing.
      • utahnkid, on 04/26/2008, -1/+1you would be surprised if you actually researched into it.. mormons make a pretty big deal about humanitarian efforts. they have an entire group called the relief society thats only job is to scour whatever town it's in for people/places in need. don't take my word for it, read into yourself.
    • bwa236, on 04/26/2008, -2/+3Edit: Abusing human generosity.
      • justice7, on 04/26/2008, -2/+1Very true, while Mormons are known to be very generous/kind people -- it isn't JUST them.
  • laserblazer, on 04/26/2008, -6/+45Wake me up when she plunders the American economy in eight short years.
    • bwa236, on 04/26/2008, -0/+2with the way the economy is going, she'll feel the effects too...We won't be so willing to hand it out if a recession (or worse, depression) hits.
      When the economic stimulus check gets in, the only place that's going to see that money is my savings acct. Maybe I should buy gold with the way inflation is going....Anyone want to split a gold bar with me?
      • Jashobeam5, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1How about splitting a Mars bar. I think I can afford that.
    • NonLeftistDiggr, on 04/26/2008, -6/+2or in only two years like the dem congress, if you want to be that retarded about politics.
    • govsucks, on 04/27/2008, -4/+1put a leftist in charge and she will
  • whiteguysamurai, on 04/26/2008, -0/+18When she says she's from Seattle, she meant to say she learned that ***** here.
    There is one woman here in Everett that does this all the time, off 128th and 4th ave.
    These people need to be arrested and forced to work with real homeless people.
  • OfNumbers, on 04/26/2008, -3/+12TV says the homeless are always panhandlers. The panhandlers, I mean homeless, I mean terrorists, or homeless panhandling terrorists don't deserve change when you have it.
    • clarient, on 04/26/2008, -0/+5Panhandlers went looking for gold in California. These people are beggars.
  • amusebouche, on 04/26/2008, -1/+11The burden for this falls on the givers. Pay attention to where your money goes, folks. Scam artists can only scam the willing. Give to reputable, registered charities, and check those out, too - a lot of them are pretty effin' shady as well.
    • Vodka2389, on 04/26/2008, -0/+2Or just don't give away your money to people who don't deserve it.
      • Jashobeam5, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1If they deserved it, it wouldn't be chairty. It would be wages. If we don't give to those in need, we shouldn't expect to ever be on the receiving end of such a kind gesture.
  • YodaJones, on 04/26/2008, -4/+16What a bitch.
  • DarkReign16, on 04/26/2008, -14/+5Speaking of crazy hobos, while trying to illegally purchase alcoholic beverage tonight, a crazy lady asked if I would drive her to her house . I said no, I don't know you, and she then followed me to my car, where my friends and I couldn't help but laugh (my friends thought that she was the owner of the store, following me to my car for trying to purchase alcohol, whilst being under 21).

    I asked where her vehicle was, and she said she did not have one, but was walking to a nearby QT to buy alcohol. It was at this time I realized that she was not only a crazy hobo, but a drunken one. She smelled of tunafish, and looked of rosie o'donell. In the end, my friends and I sped off, saying, "leave us alone, crazy lady".

    Oh and she also thought that I was trying to unlock the doors when I clicked the LOCK button, and actually said, "press it again, it didn't open". HA!
    • MasterMO, on 04/26/2008, -5/+4finish this sentence for me:

      'And this relates to the article because ... "
      • pasher1221, on 04/26/2008, -1/+7Didn't you read the first sentence? The relation is "Crazy hobos!".
    • DarkReign16, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1I guess no one found my plight funny. Huh...
  • richardiscool, on 04/26/2008, -8/+3...there was a woman who lives in a trailer?!
  • smotpoker, on 04/26/2008, -5/+13My ex and I would donate to the homeless regularly when we lived in Bay Area - even when we couldn't pay our own rent/bills we'd at least give whatever change we had on us. Considering it would cost us $15-20 per day just for transit to get to work and back, other living costs and our own situation, it was understandable a lot of people could need a fair amount of help to get on their feet.

    The only thing that really irked me into not giving something was seeing the same homeless person two or three days in a row ask me for change without even seeming to recognize me (which seemed to imply they were not really grateful at all)

    Anyway, outside of mcdonalds a guy asked for some some money and we gave him like $3.xx and as we started to walk off, he stopped us and asked our names. With a puzzled glance at each other, my ex and I gave our names and as he wrote them down in a notebook so we asked why he cared.

    I forget his exact reason but he said something about doing a study I think. He was recording names and amounts of those who gave him money... he was a younger guy (20-25) and he did look kinda grungy (but that wasn't too uncommon in the area). I think he may have been a student and/or an artist and was going to use the info for some sort of project. It was busy and we were with people so we didn't delve into it much but it was kinda odd...

    </obligatoryhomelessanectdote>

    • joebagodonuts, on 04/26/2008, -8/+3So you're giving to get their gratitude?
      • smotpoker, on 04/26/2008, -4/+6What a cynical and narrow-minded comment...

        We were trying to do what we could to help the most. When you have only a little to give, and especially at the expense of your own necessities, you tend to want to make sure what you gave counts for something. Lack of gratitude indicates lack of need in most cases I would think.

        Our rule of thumb was to give to one person every day, if we had change and encountered one, but no more than that. As I stated, we could not even afford our own bills but felt it was immoral to neglect everyone we saw in need.
        • Vodka2389, on 04/26/2008, -1/+2So WHY did you give them the money you earned at the expense of your own necessities? What did they do to deserve it?
          • smotpoker, on 04/27/2008, -1/+2"but felt it was immoral to neglect everyone we saw in need"

            They seemed to need it a lot more
    • Agenda, on 04/26/2008, -2/+2We are in dire need of more people like you here :).
      • smotpoker, on 04/27/2008, -1/+2You wouldn't say that if you knew me personally :P
    • utahnkid, on 04/26/2008, -1/+8It was his list of who dies painlessly WHEN HE TAKES OVER THE WORLD!!!
    • V2012, on 04/26/2008, -0/+1Take it from someone who's spent a fair bit of time busking: the more time you spend on the street, the harder it gets to remember faces. It has very little to do with gratitude. You see a LOT of faces come and go in the run of a day, let alone a week or a month, or even a year. You might as well expect the guy passing you your Big Mac to recognize you.
      • smotpoker, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1Yeah... we considered this, but some people were just so mechanical about... maybe they were the worst off and we reacted opposite than we should but there were A LOT of people like that in Bay Area and we figured the ones we didn't see every day or who seemed the most appreciative probably needed it the most...

        I know the few times I've been reduced to that level I would go out of my way to show gratitude, not ask the same person twice, etc but I never did it for a long period of time or in a busy city
    • FriendofUsers, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1He was taking notes on who to rob or not to rob.
  • begbie2, on 04/26/2008, -15/+7You people feel guilty. You feel guilty because inside you are feelings that ignoring homeless and not giving them ***** is wrong. It's not natural for humans to be well off and walk past people with nothing. It's inside all of us to help other humans.

    But what do you do? You ignore them. You block them out of your mind. But underneath it all, the guilt builds up.
    Then some Real Trash makes a horrible, piece of garbage report about one screwed up girl (who obviously has issues) and you're like "HA! I knew it! I was right not to share! I was right to ignore the pain around me! MY GREED HAS BEEN JUSTIFIED!"

    I don't know which was worse, watching that fake "journalism" or reading the pathetic responses from people here.
    Right above me is a douchebag claiming some scammers averaged $3k a day. I wonder how you came up with that figure, douchebag.
    You people are sheltered, ignorant, and just plain stupid. (like the reporter)

    Have you ever tried to fly a a sign? Have you ever begged for change?
    No, you haven't. If you had you'd realize how ***** stupid you sound.
    "spare some change?" is not a scam. It's damn humiliating. It sucks.
    It's the absolute last ***** thing anybody wants to be doing. (obviously there are some RARE exceptions -lets ***** jump up and down when we find one! WOW, I'm a journalist!)

    It's demoralizing. It hurts. It makes you feel like *****.
    Get a ***** clue you assholes.

    You want to work off that guilt? Buy the next homeless guy you see a sandwich or two.
    • kinerry, on 04/26/2008, -0/+6you didn't watch the video
      • ronnnysizemore, on 04/26/2008, -3/+0Yes, I did watch the video. (painful as was to watch "journalists" report "news") (pretty much on a "FOX NEWS" level)
        What in my comment makes you think I didn't watch the video?
    • pinguwin, on 04/26/2008, -1/+4Uh, my dad has offered not only a sammich, but a complete meal to a "homeless" guy. Anything he wanted off the menu, and he told my dad to forget about it after just telling him how hungry he was.
      • ronnnysizemore, on 04/26/2008, -7/+1So... basically what you are saying is that: not you, but someone you know, once met a guy on the streets who was trying to get high.
        Do I have all the facts? That is what you just typed, right?
        Umm, so you, yourself, have not actually talked to a bum, is that what you are saying?
        And this guy who was trying to get high or drunk that someone you know met wasn't hungry.
        That's some story.
        I guess now you know that that guy wasn't hungry. Well, he might have been hungry later that day. And well, most likely he said he was hungry so he could get a couple of bucks for something else.
        Kudos to your dad for saving a dollar!
    • cdahlkvist, on 04/26/2008, -0/+4I've given them food only to watch them throw it away as I am driving away.

      However, I use to see this homeless guy on the exit ramp every day. I gave him money once in a while.

      One day I asked him if I could bring him some clothing and food and he said yes.

      I came back there and brought some clothes I no longer wore, a bunch of canned goods and a can opener. I gave him a $20.

      He was living between some trees off the side of the highway. Very sad.

      The point is, some are legit and others not so much. Just because there are scammers doesn't mean you should forget about the rest.
    • BetterOffEd, on 04/26/2008, -1/+3They often refuse food. Lemme repeat that: REFUSE FOOD. By very definition, money is a means to an end, not an end unto itself. So the way you weed out the ingenuines is to GIVE THEM ENDS. If you see a guy who looks famished, offer him a biscuit. If you see a family with a baby living at an interstate rest stop, offer them Similac and diapers. The result is always either of these: You will have done a great thing for someone in need, or you will have personally uncovered some of the lowest of the low in society.


      .



      .
    • NonLeftistDiggr, on 04/26/2008, -3/+1Hey fukwad, I never had to do those things, because I always did my homework, dragged my ass through a college degree, and followed all those annoying ass job books to a T.

      So FK U, I have no guilt when I pass a homeless person by. I work with the developmentally disabled instead because it's a group that really has no say in the situation they've been handed.
  • spartan777, on 04/26/2008, -1/+34the Panhandling Teamster's Union won't be happy about this.
  • Gregus1032, on 04/26/2008, -7/+61Thats what happens to girls to ugly to sell their body.
    • rezist, on 04/26/2008, -1/+9I've seen some real nasty hookers man.
  • MrKrinkleDude, on 04/26/2008, -2/+14This is has been going on for a long, long time. I knew quite a few people when I used to patrol that would panhandle during the day and average $500 per day and each month they also collect an SSI disability check.

    The best way to help those that truly need the help is to donate or volunteer with local official organizations in your area. Never give money directly to someone on the street.
    • begbie2, on 04/26/2008, -11/+3$500 a day?
      Good lord you are full of *****.
      • whataboutdave, on 04/26/2008, -0/+3She's making 50 dollars an hour tax free. She's raking it in.
        • ronnnysizemore, on 04/26/2008, -3/+0says who? the tv?
          duh.
          Why aren't you out there making all that cash? $50 a hour? that's more than you make.
      • Wartz, on 04/26/2008, -0/+2In my hometown there was an old lady who picked up cans and did some begging for years. I once gave her a $5. When she died there was an inquiry and it was discovered that she had a small but comfortable apartment and over $10,000 saved in a bank account.
    • mille716, on 04/26/2008, -0/+5I've learned not to give to panhandlers years ago after I kept hearing the same story about his car broke down and he just needs a couple dollars to call a tow truck.

      The only time I've given to anyone was last year outside my grocery store, a hotspot for homeless in my city. This guy approached me at night and told me he missed the shelter dinner. He asked if I could buy him some food, any food, he was just hungry. He said this with tears in his eyes too. I offered him I think three dollars and he turned it down, saying he wasn't asking for money, just a food. I actually then had to convince him to take it since I didn't have time to go in to buy him something.
  • itsripitsrip, on 04/26/2008, -1/+39once i was going eat at wendy's.

    as i was walking to the door, i saw a man that had that 'homeless' look. as i walked to the door, he asked me if i would buy him some
    food. i said "sure, what do you want?". he replied, "just a hamburger will be fine."

    so i got him what i got, a baconator combo with a coke, and i made it a large. now he's probably dead from a heart attack, but hey, it's a good burger ;)

    you can usually tell (at least i can) when someone is hungry/homeless/bad off. it takes a lot for a person to actually ask for hand outs...i guess i could have shortened this to: i only give homeless people food.
    • kinerry, on 04/26/2008, -3/+2you would think so, but that's just not the case
    • pu-z, on 04/26/2008, -0/+46Once I was approached by a beggar (we call them beggars here in the Old World), and he was saying "Could you help me with 2 dollars for a cup of coffee?" I was feeling quite generous that day so I said; "You know, I never hand out money but I can buy you a coffee at that 7-11". The bum looked at me as if I was the largest ***** on the planet, said "***** you!" and left.

      Guess his intentions wasn't to buy a cup o' java...
      • megaloid, on 04/26/2008, -0/+3More like a spoonful o' smack.
      • FriendofUsers, on 04/27/2008, -0/+2Maybe he doesn't like 7-Eleven coffee. He was raising $2 at a time to buy a $5 Starbucks latte.
  • ryanhayn, on 04/26/2008, -3/+10Who cares, really? If you want to give them money, fine. If you don't, that's fine too.
    • depro9, on 04/26/2008, -9/+3Thats called freedom & Capitalists do not like real freedom..
      • Toshibi, on 04/26/2008, -3/+6Actually, capitalism is the actual system by which you get to decide how you use your own money. You control, privately, the means of production and the fruits of your labor. Idiot.
        • hamobu, on 04/26/2008, -4/+1Someone has drunk libertarian Kool-aid
          • Jashobeam5, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1Only the libs "drink the kool-aid." Libertarians think for themselves.
        • ronnnysizemore, on 04/26/2008, -1/+3Hey Toshibi, why don't you read up on capitalism. I mean books a teacher hasn't assigned you to read.
          Were you born yesterday or what?
        • Toshibi, on 04/26/2008, -3/+1I have read up on capitalism, considering the fact I'm an Anarcho-Capitalist. The actual deffinition of capitalism is a system of economics by which the means of production are privately owned. That's all it is.

          I'll bet 90% of what you would attribute to capitalism is in fact something along the lines of Corporatism, which is far different.

          Idiots.
          • cdahlkvist, on 04/26/2008, -2/+4"Anarcho-Capitalist"

            Yep. Another 17 year old emo joins Digg.
          • fletcherrr, on 04/26/2008, -1/+2I hate Digg.
    • JaysonthePirate, on 04/26/2008, -0/+4but the people who give them money do so under false pretenses. its called stealing.
    • hamobu, on 04/26/2008, -4/+1You must be a Republican. You exibit no-matter-what-happens-to-you-it-is-your-own-deamn-fault type of reasoning.
      • Jashobeam5, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1That is not true. Republicans outgive Democrats when it comes to donating to charity.
    • MidwestIsBest, on 04/26/2008, -1/+2You know who cares? The people who are really starving & homeless, you naive *****.
  • mal1964, on 04/26/2008, -12/+192Ninjas killed my father
    Need diggs for karate lessons
    • mal1964, on 04/26/2008, -12/+3I have 9 so far this begging is kind of fun.
    • RcHer, on 04/26/2008, -1/+18Can i just buy you a burger? I don't have any spare diggs on me.
    • TheMidnight, on 04/26/2008, -8/+3Pirates killed my ninja father
      need diggs for swashbuckling kung fu lessons
      • B3000, on 04/26/2008, -3/+4Liar. Pirates can't kill ninjas.
        • chiefbandit2200, on 04/26/2008, -1/+2if the ninjas are in a large body of water they can...
      • jxfallout, on 04/26/2008, -1/+1I DON'T HAVE ANY DIGGS! LEAVE ME ALONE!!!!
      • mal1964, on 04/26/2008, -3/+3Inigo Montoya: Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father prepare to die.
        Count Rugen: [Now Rugen attacks five times and Inigo blocks every single one]
        Inigo Montoya: [Louder] Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father prepare to die.
        Count Rugen: Stop saying that!
        Inigo Montoya: [Rugen attacks and Inigo blocks it and then stabs Rugen in the shoulder. Then Rugen swings his sword. Inigo ducks and stabs Rugen in the other shoulder. Then he advances quickly and they fight] Hello! My name is Inigo Montoya! You killed my father prepare to die!
        Count Rugen: [Rugen gets his sword knocked away and Inigo slices his cheek] No!
        Inigo Montoya: Offer me money
        Count Rugen: Yes
        Inigo Montoya: Power too promise that!
        [he slices Rugen's other cheek]
        Count Rugen: All that I have and more. Please.
        Inigo Montoya: Offer me everything I ask for.
        Inigo Montoya: Anything you want.
        Count Rugen: [Rugen attacks but Inigo grabs his arm and stabs Rugen in the stomach]
        Inigo Montoya: I want my father back you son of a bitch.
        [Inigo plunches the sword into Rugen's gut and he falls down dead]
    • res8qr6m, on 04/26/2008, -0/+3It wasn't the Staten Island ninja gang by any chance?
      • mal1964, on 04/26/2008, -0/+1I'm begging for diggs, So I'm pretty much a "yes" man. I cant even pronounce this word ,"Disagre"
    • kawaiirobo, on 04/26/2008, -0/+2on Staten? Those wern't ninjas, they were Sholin Assassins.
    • Otab, on 04/27/2008, -0/+0I guess i know that guy.Now he carries a different sign something about getting drunk so that women can molest me.
  • kinerry, on 04/26/2008, -1/+12holy ***** shes banking
  • depro9, on 04/26/2008, -12/+6Capitalist PR ***** propaganda! In this system you do what is needed to survive & playing by the Capitalists rules will only hurt you. Why is it that the Capitalists will beg the government for our tax dollars when they feel the need but cry on the news when the common person uses their tactics? If you Capitalists want this to TRULY stop you will end your childish game of greed for need.
    • kinerry, on 04/26/2008, -4/+7capitalism is morally neutral you stupid *****. if you don't like it so much then go live in a communist country.
      • ronnnysizemore, on 04/26/2008, -7/+4"capitalism is morally neutral" ? How you figure that?
        capitalism is definitely without morals. (as in amoral) duh.
        and then you finish it with "Yall down likes it, the yalls can just just leave."
        How small does your brain have to be to repeat that ***** over and over again without ever thinking about it?
        • Toshibi, on 04/26/2008, -1/+6Capitalism is a neutral system. It's economics, not ethics. In fact, the girl is bei