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- stevets, on 10/12/2007, -9/+154I come from a rural farming and ranching community, where this sort of thing is almost what you would call "commonplace." Most of the time its' the rancher's who end up shooting the dogs, usually because they are harassing livestock (intentionally or unintentionally). Most people that live in the area know this, and as a result, keep an eye on their animals. The only people who usually throw a fit about it are the (I'm so getting dugg down for this) folks who have moved up from California, or anywhere else along the I-5 corridor. The same ones who want to save the wolves and all of that jazz. I guess a lot of people just don't realize that for ranchers, these animals are their livelihood - if they lose a steer that can cost them anywhere from 900-1700 dollars. As for the cute 'lil Boston Terrier...sucks to be him, but the owner should have been paying more attention to his dog.
- The2ndAct, on 10/12/2007, -11/+96Re: the title
No, it is not "cool" to shoot someone's dog... ever. But in this case the man had legitimate cause to protect his property. - HELLI0N, on 10/12/2007, -13/+87Animal owners need to control the animals they own. That is the responsibility they accept when they decide to have a pet. The dogs size or breed has nothing to do with it, animals carry diseases and a bite from any animal can be very painful and can cause lasting damage or scaring. Its nice to see a problem animal taken care of BEFORE it causes a serious injury or death rather than after. Vicious animals are too often protected and left to later cause harm because of one or another lame law developed by some save the animals tree hugger. If a dog came on my property and harrased my family or pets, I would also shoot it. Twice.
- atdigg, on 10/12/2007, -15/+76I don't think size is relevant, a fox would probably weigh the same... but still be dangerous to livestock.
- ArchieAndrews, on 10/12/2007, -3/+54Remind me never to park my delivery van in your driveway. Where do you keep all your mail carriers?
- SillyRabbits, on 10/12/2007, -12/+61Yep, even a small ankle biting dog can cause enough damage to require hundreds of dollars in vet bills (might even cause enough damage to require the animal needs to be euthanized).
- unicornhunter, on 10/12/2007, -17/+64Nothing wrong with the shot, but really..it would have been more satisfying to just punt the little 11 pounder like a football.
- GlargTheKelfn, on 10/12/2007, -7/+53my mom raised boston terrier, they are insane little high strung dogs, that were bred to fight. it is very easy for them to lose their mind and go agro and not stop. i saw this for 18 years before i moved out, so i do have a bit of xp here. a boston terrier is just a small pit bull, with short man syndrome.
if a dog is threatening your livestock, you shoot it. that's how it works. i have had this same situation occur with my dad's horses. and we shot the dog, and billed the dog's owner for the horse's vet bills. and he paid knowing he was getting off light. if you own a dog, you must control it. if you don't, you don't deserve the animal. - SillyRabbits, on 10/12/2007, -7/+49I love how the owners described the dog as being so sweet. They sound like the parents of 'out-of-control' teenagers saying how their kid could never do anything horrible because they are such a good kid. Come on, the dog was a terrier. I'm sure it was sweet to it's owner, but the breed was developed for its fighting (no fear) spirit. I have no doubt it was very aggressive towards some animal it saw as prey.
- airwalkery2k, on 10/12/2007, -2/+43Ownership is turned over to whoever owns the property the animal is on? News to me.
- SultanTravi, on 10/12/2007, -8/+48You do realize that 50 lb and smaller pit bulls are fully capable of killing humans, right? I imagine this 11-pound dog could do serious harm to a ewe, even if it isn't a pit bull.
It sucks, but they tried to shoo it away with other methods, and that didn't work. - codelogic, on 10/12/2007, -6/+46I agree that it's not "cool" to shoot somebody else's dog, however in this case, it's clearly justified.
Yeah, and to all those that say "you shoot my dog, I shoot you", you're the kind of lunatics that should never be allowed to purchase a handgun. - IADTatami, on 10/12/2007, -0/+35Good fences make good neighbors.
- siszam, on 10/12/2007, -8/+42Hey, I'm a "tree hugger" but if you let your animal run onto my property it's not walking away. I hate dog owners who think everyone is as amused and enamored with their little poop machines with legs. You're pets aren't cute and even the nice pet can bight. When my son was five he was standing in our yard and was attacked by someones stray dog. The owner said there dog had never bitten anyone before. Keep your animals inside or tied up.
- SultanTravi, on 10/12/2007, -4/+33This should make disposing of my pet alligator much easier than I originally thought.
And don't judge me, diggers. How was I to know they went from cute to deadly in only a couple of years? - iceperson, on 10/12/2007, -11/+37"Not to get all animal-rights-activist or anything, but I really don't understand how people justify killing animals and eating/wearing them and then find it absurd that people don't value the life of animals as pets."
That's because you're retarded... - underthewether, on 10/12/2007, -4/+28I grew up on a farm and we had sheep. Every once in a while a dog would show up and sometimes it would bother the sheep. On those occasions, my dad, without regard for whether the dog was licensed or not would take care of business. I don't care how small the dog is, it doesn't take much to kill a baby lamb. If you really care that much about your dog then keep it fenced in or tied up, otherwise don't complain if it gets eliminated. Would that dog owner rather be sued for property loss by the farmer?
- PdxPhoenix, on 10/12/2007, -5/+28Those who own teenagers also need to control the animals they own.
- LogicBomB, on 10/12/2007, -8/+31Leash it or loose it. Period.
- 1337zork, on 10/12/2007, -8/+30Well isnt it legal in the states, to shoot someone or something on your property, if you feel threatened?
- wushu18t, on 10/12/2007, -3/+23as a person who has been attacked by a neighbor's dog when it left their property. i say yes, especially on your own property.
- thcobbs, on 10/12/2007, -2/+21Depends on the state.
For a while, in my state, you had to tell the person to leave.... "retreat" from the situation to another room... and THEN if they came after you, you could shoot them. Needless to say, many people were upset that the criminal had more rights than they did in their own home.
Now it's if someone enters your property(including your car... as it's an extension of your home) at night against your wishes.... you can shoot them.
If it's a non-game animal.... fire away. - lydecker, on 10/12/2007, -6/+25If it was a wild animal, threatening someone's property, on their own property, then he would obviously have a right to protect it.
If it was someone else's animal, nothing should change. Yeah, it sucks that your dog got out, but you're raising a living thing, you're in charge of being responsible for it.
Kinda reminds me of how parents get upset and blame everyone else for things their kids do wrong. - vertinox, on 10/12/2007, -9/+25And also my neighbors, but sometimes it is hard to drag their bodies off the front lawn into my house.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -10/+26The owner was right to shoot the dog. Simple answer. Not too much to debate here. Keep it moving ....
- spurtle, on 10/12/2007, -7/+22The dog spooks the animals, the animals go on a stampede. May trample one another or break through a fence and run into traffic.
- nongmo, on 10/12/2007, -4/+19... except helpless livestock like sheep. Wasn't that the entire point?
- TheBogie, on 10/12/2007, -5/+20Animal owners need to control the animals they own.
Bingo. If they really love their animal, they will keep it locked up so it won't get run over by a car. Or head shotted. - GawtMilk, on 10/12/2007, -32/+46Oh yea, I love shooting my neighbours animals. Totally rad.
- Xabbo, on 10/12/2007, -3/+17Nearly 15 years ago we had a pack of domesticated dogs come onto out property. In short time they killed 9 pygmy goats, a calf, kill one sheep and maim another so badly we had to put her down as well. From what I was told the pack had between 8 and 10 domesticated dogs in it. We stopped pack by shooting about seven of the dogs.
We have coyotes living on the ranch, as well as bobcats and foxes. What people don't realize is that "wild animals" are easier to coexist with than loose dogs. As soon as you get two or more dogs together, running wild and without their owner/"pack leader", they kill more efficiently than you can imagine.
As dog lovers, I would rate that night as the worst in the 138 years we've been here.
Anyone who ever finds a dog of mine running in a pack has my full permission to drop it where he/she stands. - bmartin, on 10/12/2007, -4/+17@nottidredd: What do you think cows eat in the winter? You've apparently never lived on or near a farm.
- LonesomeFighter, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16"The shot could have missed its mark and seriously injured or caused a human fatality," wrote Alifano.
that doesn't sound likely, especially if he is surrounded by a gold course. It's not like he's in a city with tons of people surrounding him. Plus if he aims down, and it a dog so he prob did, a miss would hit dirt. - ript, on 10/12/2007, -4/+16I've had my baby sisters right hand mangled by a terrier at a friends house. If you think that only large dogs can cause harm, you, sir, are mistaken. Now, do you want to count the various diseases that animals may carry? I live in the country, and I have a responsibility to control my pets, as my neighbors have livestock, and the same goes for their pets and my livestock. If my pet was threatening my neighbors animals, I would fully expect to come home to it's corpse. I also know (as this has happened) that my neighbors can expect the same. Keep control of your animals, or keep them locked up, because I keep the shotgun loaded (for skunks and fox and coyotes, not the neighbors dog) and will use it if NEED be. I also accept responsibility for my animals actions, and keep them either trained to stay home, or otherwise contained.
- CaptMonkey, on 10/12/2007, -33/+45Having had livestock harassed by neighbors wandering dogs (that I yelled at and smacked with a broom, didn't shoot) I was totally in agreement with the self-defense thing until I read that it was an 11-pound dog. Seriously, my cat weighs that much.
- oddmanout, on 10/12/2007, -11/+22its not like they can just sit back and let it torment their animals... given enough time, the smallest chihuahua could cause major harm to other animals.
- stripdchev, on 10/12/2007, -8/+18Only 11 pounds? that musta been a hard target to hit. I would of done the same thing had I been in his shoes. Coulda been a child just as easily as livestock.
- Tallon29, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11For those asking about gun laws in their respective states, http://www.packing.org/ is a great site to find this info.
Just choose your state from the left and you will get all necessary info. - TheKricket, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13if even the tiniest of dogs bit the leg (ankle) of a horse or a ewe - it could render it handicapped for life
i have a dog - im a dog lover - but i always make sure he stays where hes supposed to - and if another dog came around and tried attacking my dog - id do whatever it took to protect my little buddy... - jaycliche, on 10/12/2007, -4/+14"You said your from Canada ... that means your comments are worthless."
Wow, an ethnocentric american...surprise. - lasombragh, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10@cockdiesel
You should probably worry about learning the difference between "your" and "you're" before making truly worthless, asinine racist comments. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+14The dog died because it had a stupid owner. She has no one to blame but herself. "It's not my fault, I tell everybody to run, the dog bites" is not an acceptable excuse:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hY9EKHAqUUI - PdxPhoenix, on 10/12/2007, -5/+13Unprovoked, agreed; trespassing on my property, terrizing my livestock, hell yes, kill it.
But, I wonder if you'd feel that way if it were attacking your child...Wait who am I kidding, you'd find someone willing to sleep with you first... - FearlessFreep, on 10/12/2007, -7/+15including people who can't spell, I hope
- connor2k, on 10/12/2007, -5/+13Kill the dog. Tell the neighbors to move if they don't like it and then get a clue.
a .22 calibre rifle was the safest thing to use in a residential setting. Sure there is the possibility of someone being killed by it, but a dog not on a leash can kill a child just as easy and it is probably more likely to happen. - cawpin, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10@loup - In what city and (communist) state do you live? That is clear violation of defense rights.
- nottidredd, on 10/12/2007, -20/+28"I grab a dog. I choke him and I kick the ***** out of him. All day long got my foot up a dog's ass. Just bang, bang, bang up his ass. That's my pleasure." - Mr. Jones:
- TheKricket, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11the constitution should make it illegal for morons to have computers
- Dorian822, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8This title is very "uncool." What the hell does "Is it Cool" have to do with any of this story? We're talking about someone shooting a dog, not the Wii blaster or something. A better title might have been is murder or self defense: man shoots someone elses dog on his property.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -8/+15And you should be throw in jail for blatant mindless stupidity, but we can't all have what we want can we?
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