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- Nogger, on 10/12/2007, -1/+99You have a fake penis? Poor you.
- faulkner, on 10/12/2007, -5/+78Next time you say something like that, spell 'grammar' correctly.
- jmontes, on 10/12/2007, -0/+67Reminds me of people getting accused of being a drug user because they ate something with poppy seeds in it before a drug test. If the test here really was at fault then it is not a valid test to use. Or at least it can't be used in isolation - positive test results must immediately be further verified with a more thorough test.
- VAXcat, on 10/12/2007, -2/+56 One of the biggest problems in dealing with law enforcement is that the cops almost never suffer any negative consequences for mistakes that cause innocent people to be arrested, so they have no motivation whatsoever to avoid them.
- baxtermaddux, on 10/12/2007, -2/+53maybe she likes her bread shaped like a penis?
- TheCaptainJS, on 10/12/2007, -15/+64How in the hell does Flour test positive for drugs? I Smell *****.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+47A rare case where a "gag gift" could have multiple meanings.
- olego, on 10/12/2007, -4/+47The Description Is Really Difficult To Read.
- baxtermaddux, on 10/12/2007, -3/+38i was not aware women liked to pass the time during exams week by clutching fake penises. maybe i should offer to be a stand-in sometime
- TheCaptainJS, on 10/12/2007, -2/+30@honds
Sure it may very well have been contamination... but sorry... their profession is not one where mistakes can be made. Carelessness is unacceptable IMO. - clyde2801, on 10/12/2007, -1/+29Well, she just broke up with her boyfriend, who was a baker...
- honds, on 10/12/2007, -5/+29@dagonweb
I usually don't respond to stuff like that but your comment was just way way over the top. I'm not saying these cops are innocent, but I'm not saying they are corrupt either. We live in a country where you are innocent until proven guilty. The cops are not above the law. But they are not beneath it either. Thye have to follow the same laws we do. What the hell gives you the right to say they are guilty until proven innocent?
@TheCaptainJS
Perhaps some idiot used a contaminated machinery or workspace. I am not an expert but I would think that if the cops were corrupt they would be smart enough to say it is one drug not three implausably mixed together. Careless contamination (not the same as police corruption or racism!) makes much more sense to me. - crweaks23, on 10/12/2007, -1/+23Case is settled:
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/01/04/national/a131621S75.DTL&type=bondage - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+22Or the pillsbury dough boy.
- smcavoy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17well I think low on the list of expectations would be going to jail.
Yes it looks suspicious, but what law was broken that required her to be sent to jail? - Smokezz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17Question it... sure. But to spend 3 weeks in jail for this? No, thats ridiculous. Someone screwed up, badly. A field test should never be the enough to put someone in jail anyways. It should always immediately go to the lab for further testing to ensure the field test was accurate.
- xGBox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17Climax of this story:
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"The officer asked about the white powder in the condoms.
They were filled with flour, she said, and were silly stress-relief contraptions that she had made with classmates as part of a freshman rite of passage in her Main Line dorm.
'It's A Girl Thing'
"I tried to explain that it was a joke, a gag gift for friends. It's a girl thing. I said, 'You squeeze them to reduce stress." - andreo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17@ LogicBomB
To here it "looked like" a condom that was filled with flour, Just like she said. Not everyone is as well versed in the methods of transporting or smuggling drugs as you seem to be. I doubt very much that she wanted to see if she could cause problems for the baggage screeners or to see if she could sneak one by them.
Everyone is not out to get one by on everyone else.
This entire story reminds me of a return trip from Canada. I was asked: "what is this in your bag". To which I replied: clothes. They asked: "what else". Me: "Um, condoms, I have 2 or 3 left from the dozen that I brought up with me :)". Screener: "No, what else?". Me: "..." Screener: "no this bottle". Me: "oh, that's a stir-fry sauce that was given to me". Screener: "oh".
The mini game of 20 questions could have been avoided by just asking what was in the bottle instead of them seeing if I would somehow breakdown or whatever they were trying to accomplish. And there's a similar story involving my electric shaver during a trip back from Cancun.
This could have ruined her life and all the presumed hard work that she done so far. I hope she wins the suit, I hope she wins enough where she doesn't have to work a day in her life. I hope that the person that did the test is held accountable and shown the door. And I think she is very very lucky that she had the support that she did or she probably would be serving her sentence by now. - heythisismyname, on 10/12/2007, -3/+17Actually at first the cop thought he was smelling doughnuts
- davidjunit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13"Why did the police field test initially conclude that the white powder contained drugs?"
Because no one did a field test?
"They told her a field test showed that the powder contained opium and cocaine."
I get the feeling that they didn't even do the "field test" and just ASSUMED it was cocaine. I hope they get hit good for being so stupid. - IHaveIssues, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12"and why isn't this on major news network?"
'cause it from 2005 maybe? - Wonderkind, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13There is "no need" for a lot of things, but she didn't do anything wrong.
- purpleeggguy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12I had a bad experience with drug-snifing dogs. One time i was headed home from a vacation in germany, and some of my friends had stuffed hay in my suitcase as a prank. Well, the dogs found it and i was detained for several hours until the lab tests came back as: "Hay".
- roosterjm2k2, on 10/12/2007, -8/+18Drug tests look for a specific chemical combination or reaction. Lab tests look for multiple unique reactions to be completely positive, field tests generally only react to one specific combination. Its very possible that something in the spermicide/latex powder could have yielded the false positive.
***** luck, maybe, but come on...who carries flour filled condoms on a plane?
I'm not saying that the cops did everything perfectly, but they didn't do much wrong either, they did exactly what they were supposed to do by the book. The DA and Prosecutor dropped the ball though. - Asvetic, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11I personally thought, "She did modern-dance moves to keep limber" was an interesting detail.
Anyway - who brings condoms filled with ANYTHING onto a plane? - starguy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9There was never any field test. Police LIE by default. I've seen it happen so many times, in so many different situations, that it has to be a standard operating procedure. The method is, this "field test" that never was done, would be spoken in during any trial, and you get a direct one way ticket into prison, because "police never lie"... on the contrary, they lie more than they tell the truth... they lie by default, to paint someone as a potential criminal. It assists the DA immensely, and its what they are all about... turning people into bad guys and putting bad guys away.
In fact, in many drug cases like this, there was never any drugs in the first place. The cops produce or plant the drugs, or don't even have to do that. In court they produce a baggie of drugs, and say boom, we're putting this into evidence, this is what we found... and you've never seen whatever that is in your life. What are you going to say? You're going to be stunned. You're going to say I have no idea where that came from, but its not mine. The jury is going to look at you like a liar, and rubber stamp you through. Why? Because there's the evidence right there! Those are clearly drugs, all the tests prove it. And they've been fed that pablum of Cops all their life, and the police never mess with anybody but those they are sure are the bad guys. Uh, totally wrong.
This is the same with hair or other type DNA evidence found at crime scenes. Police say they've found hairs or fiber or semen or blood, whatever at a crime scene, and tell the "mark" they can clear his name through a DNA test, if he/she would simply provide a sample of their hair, shirt, blood, etc. Of course they agree, because they are scared ***** because they've never been in trouble in their life and they didn't do it. The cops take whatever sample they provide, divide it into two, and send both off to some "independent" lab to be tested to see if they match. Of course when the results come back, they match, because both were taken from the "mark's" sample. There never was any original sample from the crime scene, and if there was for show, it was simply discarded later. Its so unbelievable criminal and insidious, and yet it happens all the time. All for those big bucks of $340,000 per year in prison money per inmate which all goes to pay salaries. Its ungodly obscene. And Juries rubberstamp it right on through. Because most of them are so unbelievablly clueless that the police are NOT the good guys and could be anything less than that. Juries are full of incrediblly smart but horrendously naive people. Our only sollution is to get these videos out of police misconduct and hope eventually it gets through more than 50% of people's head, that they are NOT living on the set of the Andy Griffin show.
It sickens me when I read a few naive posters who have never had any experience with the police whatsoever, automatically stand up and take the side of the police because they see the slanted propaganda of Hollywood and shows like Cops. - Wonderkind, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9After the settlement...
"Lynne Sitarski, a lawyer for the city, said the city is not admitting wrongdoing or liability."
Wow. They did nothing wrong... They only put an innocent teenage college girl in jail for three weeks over the holidays. - Fitzwarren, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9I suspect they actually did do the test. The fact that they said they detected more than one drug is highly suggestive of bad practices that left the equipment with residues from previous tests. This happens a lot. Thus the need for independent verification which she was very lucky to have got.
- NinjaBoy, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12You know what..If i see some girl with condoms filled with some white powder i know what id be thinking it was. This is also the same reason I don't walk around with a sandwich bag filled with oregano.
- voteforblank, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Crooked Cops Caught Creative Condom Contraption!
- liquidcola, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9This happened in 2003... It's 2007.
- trance, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8@Fitzwarren
"Thus the need for independent verification which she was very lucky to have got."
Lucky? I agree with you she was lucky, but it's frightening that our justice system is now depending upon luck to sort drug dealers and Freshman college students from each other.
I hope that her lawsuit not only succeeds wildly, but sets a precedent that makes this travesty impossible to reproduce. This, if true as reported, is completely unacceptable and unconscionable. The comments attempting to call the student's character and judgment into question are also frightening and suggest to me that the level of fear we are currently living with is acceptable and justifiable by many of you. If you don't understand what I'm talking about, I've just made my point. - o2o2o2o2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Headline: Flour companies caught adding cocaine to flour
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Jugalator, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8I guess the cops don't check the authenticity by tasting a bit on their finger like in the movies, after all. ;)
- rangelite, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8looks like she settled.. link found on google:
http://www.canada.com/topics/news/oddities/story.html?id=f075493a-0acc-4a37-bf4e-1c80646c3b10&k=7451 - jshusta, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Agreed. Please Learn How To Type; All Words Were Not Created Equal.
- snurfle, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8"You're not going out with that cake-eater again, are you?"
Mitch Hedberg
RIP - moleytron, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10because a condom and a bit of flower is much cheaper?
also : fun. - Alphabet, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7spoilers: Life is full of ***** odd things. You can't assume everything is normal all the time. And no one is psychic with the ability to predict/expect how other people will act.
- Teaboy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Is this a joke?
- Wonderkind, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6"What did she expect would happen?"
Read the context of the article. She didn't expect anything to happen.
She had finished her exams and was going home for Christmas.
Might have been dumb just to not leave them in her dorm, but three weeks in jail? C'mon... - brotherfranciz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Well, if you followed the link that rangelite posted:
"Lee, now a 21-year-old senior, told The Philadelphia Inquirer on Wednesday that she did not know that drug dealers often carry drugs in condoms, and that she had just packed them because she thought they were funny and wanted to show friends at home.
"I was naive, really stupid," Lee said." - Fitzwarren, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Out of interest how would you "UNmix" them in order to actually sell them later?
- Daddaluma, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Oh I agree. It's time we got past that raging stereotype of all Asians being drug dealers . . .
- concertina, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4oh noes1!l! teh anthrax!l1!!
God, I swear sometimes people are such ninnies. Five people in the country get mailed anthrax and you think you're all on the next whack job^W^W terrorist's hit list.
News flash: that plane you're boarding just might crash before you land. Which do you think is more likely to cause your death? - breser, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@Jwood
In the first sentence of the link that crweaks23 posted:
"A woman who was arrested and jailed for three weeks on drug charges for what turned out to be flour-filled condoms has settled a lawsuit against the city for $180,000." - IamTheProfessor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Seeing as how you must not have attended college, there are these things called "General Education Requirements." You can't just take classes for your major, you have to take XX credits in General Education so that you are "well rounded."
:Maybe I was a bit presumptuous to say you didn't attend college. My bad.: - IamTheProfessor, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I wonder if the field test consisted of the officers rubbing the powder on their lips...........
'YUP! THIS IS THE SAME COCAINE I GET FROM LEROY DOWN AROUND THE BLOCK!!!' - hrothgarson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4This incident will finally send a strong message to Americans that using irregular containers to transport small amounts of anything that could vaguely resemble a controlled substance could lead to serious jail time.
- 022A, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4"How in the hell does Flour test positive for drugs? I Smell *****."
Field tests typically involve mixing a sample of the suspect substance with a chemical reagent. The person performing the test then observes the mixture for a change in color and the the timing of that change, if it occurs.
It's pretty easy for some cop playing amateur chemist to confuse the reagents and or their reactions. -
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