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- azurechaos, on 10/12/2007, -9/+44This is *%$#ing ridiculous. This is the most selfish approach to a problem like rabies that I've ever heard. Dugg because these insane methods should not be tolerated from any government. Have some compassion for those completely at mankind's mercy.
- NoNom, on 10/12/2007, -3/+35"Dogs being walked were taken from their owners and beaten on the spot, the newspaper said."
"Owners were offered 63 cents per animal to kill their dogs before the teams were sent in, the report said."
They weren't just targeting strays. - CaseyUCF, on 10/12/2007, -6/+37wow, ***** you
- canonman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+25Ironic as it is the year of the dog. That can't be good karma...
- Defiance, on 10/12/2007, -5/+28I know this might be mindblowing... but the Chinese don't really have any strict rules regarding animal cruelty...
Dugg because the Chinese are nuts! - b0wl0fud0n, on 10/12/2007, -4/+25My father was traumatised as a kid in Taiwan after his dog apparently got eaten. =
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -11/+30Dogs are treated differently in rural China than they are in the U.S. In the U.S. dogs are pets and are treated like pets. In rural China, dogs are used for security, they arent walked or petted or anything like that. Rural China is filled with mutt dogs and locals just pick up stray dogs off the street to guard their homes with. So the killing of these strays and mutts is an understandable measure because they really arent cherished like the way Americans cherish their dogs by purchasing them little clothes and gourmet food and carry them around like babies.
- Noein, on 10/23/2007, -1/+17haha, your move, middle east.
- missflibbles, on 10/12/2007, -2/+18How is it understandable to beat any living thing to death? I wouldn't care for being beaten to death. I doubt you would, either.
If you have to put it down, you put it down in a way that doesn't hurt and terrify the poor thing. I understand that the culture is different, but that doesn't mean it can't still be ***** up. - stonebear, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14You might be surprised to learn that PETA believes you are abusing your dogs by keeping them as pets, and would like to prevent you from doing it. Perhaps you should be glad about the SPCA, the humane society, and the various other animal rescue charities instead.
- heavensblade23, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16No one in the world practices barbarism on the same scale as the Chinese these days.
- Brak710101, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12Honestly, seeing your dog taken from you and beaten with a stick? Sorry, I'll hold to fort with as much ammunition as I have.
- Phyltre, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11Yes, this is animal cruelty. But what worries me is that we actually NEED such laws in the first place.
- ShrimpCrackers, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12I am Asian, and let me tell you right now, Asian people, generally speaking are horrible with pets. I have horror stories about the mistreatment of animals from relatives, friends, etc in Asia.
Ever visit most (not all) Asian zoos? Half these cheap zoos think a fenced concrete pen with a few potted plants = a comfortable living environment. - mongrel, on 10/12/2007, -7/+17Stop making sense a-hole, we're trying to be emotional here
- Fifty, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13So that justifies it then, does it? Because they're killing people in Iraq, no one should give a ***** about the 50,000 dead dogs?
Also, who ever said azurechaos was American? - vernsan, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13If anyone ever touched my dog with an ill intent, somebody gonna get a hurt real bad.
- mongrel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9I don't think it's wrong to think that at all, what a fu**ing horrible thing to do to any living creature, whether you respect their place in society or not. I mean Jesus, that's 50,000 best friends right there. Just our Most Favorite Nation showing their true grit once again. Can't believe I buy ***** made there daily...
- willexi, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12Because a thing is business as usual for "rural Chinese" (read uneducated savages) does not make it the least little bit "acceptable by virture of culture". I'm so sick and tired of being told I just don't understand the culture of insertNameOfThisWeeksGroupOfInsaneThirdWorlders. One would, however, expect not much less from a culture where _human_ life is without worth.
- zweben, on 10/12/2007, -13/+21The worst part is that some people are probably finding the 63 cents to be worth it.
China saddens me. - Kardde, on 10/12/2007, -13/+21Well, at least we know what the menu in China will be for the next few weeks.
- ryogahibiki, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Yes you're right, domesticated or not, no living creature deserves to be beaten to death like this.
But I emphasized "domesticated" because these pets are mostly docile and trust humans which make it seem worse in a traitorous sort of way.
Also, these domesticated pets have human owners who must of been terribly traumatized by these events. - BloodJunkie, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Sadly, bullets cost money. Beating to death is the most cost-effective way. I hate that I am thinking these thoughts.
- Trat, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10Most Asian people still live in the stone age when it comes to treating animals: I bet they still assume that the animals don't suffer from pain. Have you ever seen the videos where they skin animals alive and trow them (still alive) on a pile of those who gone him before. I wish I could do that to those people, for the rest of my life. They eat testicles from animals in order to get an erection. What does that say of the ignorance of these species of humans?
- ryogahibiki, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Putting aside for a moment whether they SHOULD kill the dogs or not...
There has just GOT to be a more humane way to kill the dogs than by beating them to death.
Any government that decrees 50000 domesticated pets to be killed by brutal beatings is evil. - Egoist, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Ignorant? Visit some of the food stands in Shanghai sometime and if you can't find a few roasted puppies hanging by their hindlegs, you aren't looking hard enough. Less common than in Korea, but they can be found.
- DrunkenPirate34, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10Pigs arn't beaten with a stick to death for no reason.
Pigs are put down quickly (Humanely, I don't know, but it is quick.) and they are killed for a purpose.
Now, I'm not saying that killing for a purpose is right, but it makes it not as bad. (Killing people for a purpose is NOT ok, though.) - arnar, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11@noisyb: wtf? are you going for "the most modded down comment ever"?
- zaul32, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6"they certainly can't afford to use injections or bullets to kill 50000 rabid dogs"
they didn't kill 50,000 "rabid" dogs. They killed 50,000 random dogs because they thought they might get rabies. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6yup, I've been to china multiple times. Beijing, Xian, Shangai, Schenzhen and (now) Hong Kong. I can tell you they definitely eat dogs. Cats too.
The chinese consider things food first pet later.
Everything in china that moves is considered food. - ShrimpCrackers, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Okay... and how does that excuse beating-to-death dogs that are being walked by their owners? Theres a difference you know...
- jerbaker, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Funny how people differ. I couldn't shoot a dog unless it was attacking me or someone else, but I could shoot a person in the back easily. People are ***** and have the ability to make decisions about what they do. Animals for the most part cannot.
- molsen311, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5In Germany, they blamed and massacred Jews and other minorities because of a poor economy, even though it was really the government's fault.
In China, they blamed and massacred dogs because of rabies deaths, even though it was really the government's fault.
They're just looking for a scapegoat to take the blame off of them for something that should have been preventable if they had been doing their job. I can see right through it, and I hope the Chinese people can too. - Fidodo, on 10/12/2007, -12/+17I am really bothered about how much concern people have for dogs simply because they are cute. I wonder how many pigs are "massacred" every day in this country. It's not that I think we should be going around kiling animals. I just think it's very hipocritical to say that the chinese are "barbaric". It's a different culture, they don't see dogs the same way we do. If 50,000 chickens were killed in this country to prevent bird flu nobody would skip a beat.
- Starskey, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6When did China downgrade to just a county?
- AZTriGuy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I don't think the real terrible part of this story is that they had to put down all those dogs. I'm sure everyone remembers how they had to kill thousands of cows in the UK with Mad Cow disease and closer to millions of chickens in southeast Asia with the bird flu. You don't just walk up to someone walking their dog and beat it to death in front of them, though, that's pretty f-ed up. If you have to put them down, do it humanely, the cost should be irrelevant.
- zaul32, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I don't care if they are domesticated or not, they killed 50,000 animals by beating them to death with sticks. I would be pissed if they were rats. That is way f*cked up.
- robotcommander, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6DrunkenPirate34: "Pigs arn't beaten with a stick to death for no reason. Pigs are put down quickly (Humanely, I don't know, but it is quick.) and they are killed for a purpose."
1. The dogs are not being killed for "no reason". They are being culled to prevent a rabies outbreak. I'm not saying it is going to be effective nor am I saying that the methodology is humane but there is a reason it is being done.
2. If you think that farm animals slaughtered for food occurs necessarily any more quickly and/or less violently than what's being done to the dogs in China, you are being incredibly naive. - Phyltre, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9Somehow I find myself agreeing with Fidodo. We're only empathizing with dogs because we have them as emotional pets. The Chinese don't. There's absolutely nothing wrong with eating a dog, it just sounds repulsive to us because of our (probably misplaced) emotional attachments to them. Now--beating dogs to death in the streets is wrong, don't misread me.
But we're just being bigots when we point across the Pacific and say "look, people over there eat DOGS!" I mean, come on, we eat cows, which some cultures hold to be holy(ish). Does that make us immoral demons? - missflibbles, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4It's not necessarily bad to kill the animal, whether it's a dog or a pig. There's a purpose in killing the pig (food), and there's a purpose in killing the dog (disease control, food).
I don't really agree with forcibly taking dogs from owners, but I can see where they're coming from, at least. I understand that dogs aren't cherished pets over there, but to me, it's not about cute or not. I hate flies with a passion, and I will swat them with extreme prejudice, but that's a quick, hopefully painless death. Am I going to catch a fly and rip it's limbs off until it dies? No. That would make me a total bastard.
Being beaten to death I'm sure is a painful, terrifying thing. I'm not going to say animals have complex feelings and souls, as most of that is *****, but they can damned sure feel pain and fear. If you're going to be killing animals, you'd better be doing it quickly and painlessly. I don't care if it's lobster, snakes, horseshoe crabs, or cute little ***** bunny rabbits. A thinking, feeling being is a thinking, feeling being. - metus, on 10/12/2007, -9/+13If I ever saw any one harm a dog I would have no hesitation in beating them to death!!
Oh and noisyb I am English and you Sir are a prick! - dhakbar, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8China sucks ass.
I've met plenty of nice Chinese folks, and after spending a couple of years in the States and then deciding not to move back to China, they have apparently learned the fact for themselves. China can suck it. Suck it long, and suck it hard.
Anyone who sympathizes with their government sympathizes with blatant social control and oppression. - azurechaos, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Can't people stand up for both? Jesus christ. It's not like people trade in their compassion for people when they start caring about dogs as well.
- Fotograffiti, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4In America we see this as "beating dogs to death with sticks". In China they refer to it as "tenderizing". Frankly, it doesn't matter if they are seen as pets or food, I eat hamburger but if I were to go out into a farmers field and beat his cows to death, I would be in jail for cruelty to animals, among other things.
- ShrimpCrackers, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Guns and bullets? That is asking a lot for a country that bills the family for the cost of the bullet used to execute the convicted.
- uxnhoj123, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4dhakbar, I think the reason you've only met people who want to stay in America is because the one's who wanted to go back to China . . . are in China.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3China have done this in the past. One year some nerd calculated how much rice is eaten by birds, so killing them seemed like a great way to increase crops. So, they went and killed all the birds in a few day strike. The same year bugs eat all the crops.
- chainsawd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Looks like a whole bunch of Chinese people just secured their place in Hell.
- ShrimpCrackers, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@Cookie = Actually considering how much money organizations like Tzu Chi and so forth donate into China meant for medical care (the biggest charity beneficiary in Asia)... and considering how often we see medical aid and so forth end up being sold for extraneous amounts....or end up in China's ongoing Kleptocracy... its not surprising to see officials demand that 50,000 dogs be killed, bask in the illusion that something is being done, while enjoying all the money they take that was meant to prevent problems like these in the first place.
- rdotson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"If anyone came to my house asking for my dog, you think I'm going down without a fight?"
Yes. You as an individual stand no chance whatsoever against a determined government with unlimited resources, whether in China or the USA. Suppose (as here in America) it were a team of trained paramilitary soldiers (SWAT team) with machine guns, that broke down your door in the middle of the night and took your dog. Would you still put up a fight? -
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