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- aliengoods, on 10/12/2007, -25/+340The difference between Repulicans and Democrats is this. Democrats have alot of whiny minorities who live in run down apartments and bitch about the man. Republicans have alot of whiny rednecks who live in run down trailers and bitch about gays. And neither group gives a ***** about you.
- davebg8r, on 10/12/2007, -31/+303Of course, because Democrats dont do any of these things, are always honorable and have nothing but the your best intentions at heart. Of course they will tell you what your best intentions are and how you should do it because they know better than you. What a load of crap.
This is political tripe. The truth is dont join a political party. Be indepedent and make up your own mind and stop letting people who rule both parties, which are the same party at this point, make decisions for you. - dishonest, on 10/12/2007, -30/+227"5. As a former Marine, take it from me. Don’t join the military, unless you want to risk getting your balls blown off to secure other people’s economic or political interests."
Dugg. I'll join whenever a president's kids join. - kazimir34, on 10/12/2007, -12/+198Yeah well the bottom line is: be a good man
- FnordBob, on 10/12/2007, -21/+186Anyone who is vocal about belonging to a political party is probably full of *****.
- DragonKore, on 10/12/2007, -29/+187Most of those are pretty good advice, and I'm already following them. There are a few that are a bit...off.
- Romanito, on 10/12/2007, -6/+162"Most of those are pretty good advice [...] There are a few that are a bit...off"
Like he said, take what you can use, and trash the rest. - skellingtonjr, on 10/12/2007, -15/+130
Advice to Young Men from an Old Man
1. Don’t pick on the weak. It’s immoral. Don’t antagonize the strong without cause, its stupid.
2. Don’t hate women. It’s a waste of time
3. Invest in yourself. Material things come to those that have self actualized.
4. Get in a fistfight, even if you are going to lose.
5. As a former Marine, take it from me. Don’t join the military, unless you want to risk getting your balls blown off to secure other people’s economic or political interests.
6. If something has a direct benefit to an individual or a class of people, and a theoretical, abstract, or amorphous benefit to everybody else, realize that the proponent’s intentions are to benefit the former, not the latter, no matter what ***** they try to feed you.
7. Don’t be a Republican. They are self-dealing crooks with no sense of honor or patriotism to their fellow citizens. If you must be a Republican, don’t be a “conservative.” They are whining, bitching, complaining, simple-minded self-righteous idiots who think they’re perpetual victims. Listen to talk radio for a while, you’ll see what I mean.
8. Don’t take proffered advice without a critical analysis. 90% of all advice is intended to benefit the proponent, not the recipient. Actually, the number is probably closer to 97%, but I don’t want to come off as cynical.
9. You’ll spend your entire life listening to people tell you how much you owe them. You don’t owe the vast majority of people *****.
10. Don’t undermine your fellow young men. Mentor the young men that come after you. Society recognizes that you have the potential to be the most power force in society. It scares them. Society does not find young men sympathetic. They are afraid of you, both individually and collectively. Law enforcement’s primary purpose is to suppress you.
11. As a young man, you’re on your own. Society divides and conquers. Unlike women who have advocates looking out for them (NOW, Women’s Study Departments, government, non-profit organizations, political advocacy groups) almost no one is looking out for you.
12. Young men provide the genius and muscle by which our society thrives. Look at the Silicone Valley. By in large, it was not old men or women that created the revolution we live. Realize that society steals your contributions, secures it with our intellectual property laws, and then takes credit and the rewards where none is due.
13. Know that few people have your best interests at heart. Your mother does. Your father probably does (if he stuck around). Your siblings are on your side. Everybody else worries about themselves.
14. Don’t be afraid to tell people to “***** off” when need be. It is an important skill to acquire. As they say, speak your piece, even if your voice shakes.
15. Acquire empathy, good interpersonal skills, and confidence. Learn to read body language and non-verbal communication. Don’t just concentrate on your vocational or technical skills, or you’ll find your wife ***** somebody else.
16. Keep fit.
17. Don’t speak ill of your wife/girlfriend. Back her up against the world, even if she’s wrong. She should know that you have her back. When she needs your help, give it. She should know that you’ll take her part.
18. Don’t cheat on your wife/girlfriend. If you must cheat, don’t humiliate her. Don’t risk having your transgressions come back to her or her friends. Don’t do it where you live. Don’t do it with people in your social circle. Don’t ***** in your own back yard.
19. If your girlfriend doesn’t make you feel good about yourself and bring joy to your life, fire her. That’s what girlfriends are for.
20. Don’t bother with “emotional affairs.” They are just a vehicle for women to flirt and have someone make them feel good about themselves. That’s the part of a relationship they want. For you it is a lot of work and investment in time. If they are having an emotional affair with you, they’re probably ***** someone else.
21. Becoming a woman’s friend and confidant is not going to get you into an intimate relationship. If you haven’t gotten the girl within a reasonably short period of time, chances are you won’t ever get her. She’ll end up confiding to you about the sexual adventures she’s having with someone else.
22. Have and nurture friendships with women.
23. Realize that love is a numbers game. Guys fall in love easily. You’re going to see some girl and feel like you’ll die if you don’t get her. If she rejects you, move on to the next one. It’s her loss.
24. Don’t be an internet troll. Got out and live life. There is not a cadre of beautiful women advertising on Craigslist to have NSA sex with you. Beautiful women don’t need to advertise. The websites that advertise with attractive women’s photos and claims of loneliness are baloney. All they want is your money and your personal information so that they can market to you. The posts on Craigslist by young “women” seeking NSA sex, and asking for a picture are just a bunch of gay troll pic collectors. This is especially true if the post uses common gay lexicon like “hole” as in “***** my hole” or seeks “masculine” men, or uses the word ***** (except in the context of “Don’t send a ***** shot.”) There are women on Craigslist. They are easily recognizable by their 2-5 paragraph postings. Most are in their 30's or older.
25. When you become a man in full, know that people will get in your way. People who are attracted to you will somehow manage to step in your path. Gay guys will give you “the look.” Old people will somehow stumble in front of you at the worst time. Don’t get frustrated. Just step aside and go about your business. Know that these are passive aggressive methods to get you to acknowledge their existence.
26. Don’t gay bash. Don’t mentally or physically abuse people because of who they are, or how they present themselves. It’s none of your business to try to intimidate people into conformity.
27. If your gay, admit it to yourself, your parents, your friends and society at large. Be prepared to get harassed. See rule 14. If someone threatens you or assaults you, call the cops. Have them arrested. You have no obligation to self sacrifice because of who you are. As a gay person, you’ll have more social freedom than straight men. Use it to protect yourself. Be prepared to get out of Dodge if your orientation makes your life unbearable. Move to San Francisco, New York, Atlanta, or New Orleans. You’ll find a welcoming community there.
28. Don’t be a poser. Avoid being one of those dudes who puts a surfboard on top of their car, but never surfs, or a dude with a powder coated fixed gear bike and a messenger bag, but was never a messenger. Live the life. Earn your bona fides.
29. Don’t believe the crap about the patriarchy. More women are accepted and attend college. More degrees are awarded to women than men. Women outlive men. More men commit suicide. Men are twice as likely to be victims of violence, including murder. If you consider sexual assaults in prisons, twice as many men are raped as women (society thinks prison rape is funny). The streets are littered with homeless men, sprinkled with a few homeless women. Statically, women are happier than men. The myth that girls are being cheated by are educational system is belied by the fact that schools are bastions of femininity, mostly run by and taught by women. Girls outperform boys in school. It is the boys in school getting ***** over, and prescribed ritalin for being boys. Real wages for men are falling, while real wages for women are rising. Just because someone says something enough times, doesn’t make it true. You have nothing to feel guilty about.
30. Remember, 97% of all advice is worthless. Take what you can use, and trash the rest. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -38/+152"From #9: "You don’t owe the vast majority of people *****."
See, that's a Republican statement."
Not anymore. It's just a different class of people getting government handouts. Instead of welfare for the poor we have farm subsidies for large landowners. Instead of a social health care system we have tax breaks for people who spend more on dry cleaning than most of you make in a month. Instead of the war on terror we have the No Contractor Left Behind no-bid government contract welfare system for rich people.
You may be poor in life and that may or may not be related to Republican policies, probably not. But what Republicans have definitely done is rape the national treasury and put that money in their own pockets. Our money...your money. And every day they block any attempt to end great contractor give-away that is Iraq.
Oh, yeah. You own that. - cdgod, on 10/12/2007, -10/+106Follow this list like a set of rules to live by... then you will be able to understand what independent happiness is.
Maslow's 15 Traits of The Self-Actualized Person
by Dave Jensen
o Perceives reality accurately and objectively; tolerates and even likes ambiguity; and is not threatened by the unknown
o Accepts himself, others and human nature
o Is spontaneous, natural, genuine
o Is problem-centered (not self-centered), non-egotistical; has a philosophy of life and probably a mission in life
o Needs some privacy and solitude more than others do; is able to concentrate intensely
o Is independent, self-sufficient and autonomous; has less need for praise or popularity
o Has the capacity to appreciate simple and common place experiences; has zest in living, high humor, and the ability to handle stress
o Has (and is aware of) rich, alive, fulfilling "peak experiences," or moments of intense enjoyment
o Has deep feelings of brotherhood with all mankind; is benevolent, altruistic
o Forms strong friendship ties with relatively few people; and is capable of greater love
o Is democratic and unprejudiced in the deepest possible sense
o Is strongly ethical and moral in individual (not necessarily conventional) ways; enjoys work in achieving a goal as much as the goal itself; is patient, for the most part
o Has a thoughtful, philosophical sense of humor that is constructive, not destructive
o Is creative, original, inventive with a fresh, naive, simple and direct way of looking at life; tends to do most things creatively ‹ but does not necessarily possess great talent
o Is capable of detachment from culture; can objectively compare cultures and can take or leave conventions - Scrappy1850, on 10/12/2007, -9/+104it builds character. dont do it every friday night. but, stand up for yourself once in your life
- lonelycanuck, on 10/12/2007, -1/+85psh....
He didn't even mention Sunscreen - NonFluro, on 10/26/2007, -8/+91"4. Get in a fistfight, even if you are going to lose. "
Careful with this one if you want to keep your teeth and lack of a criminal record. - TheCatsPants, on 10/12/2007, -7/+81"13. Know that few people have your best interests at heart. Your mother does. Your father probably does (if he stuck around). Your siblings are on your side. Everybody else worries about themselves."
Very true. Apart from family, everyone is essentially alone. - Coven, on 10/12/2007, -6/+7632. If you shake it more than 3 times, you're playing with it.
- elnerdo, on 10/12/2007, -16/+84Hehehe, Silicone Valley.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7024. Don’t be an internet troll. Got out and live life.
Shoot, how did this get on Digg? - cmiller1, on 10/12/2007, -9/+74I think we should move back to the old days where the leader of the country was also the leader of the military, and went out on the front lines with all of his men. Kinda hard to start a war for profit when your life is on the line.
- SteelChicken, on 10/12/2007, -7/+71"you cannot truly know someone until you fight them"
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seriously though, dont be afraid to scrap if you are in the right. I dont think hes saying go around and punch someone just for giggles.
this is more of a fight club-esque "be alive" type of advice, not that gay ass happy-slap ***** they do in the UK. - EBFoxbat, on 10/12/2007, -10/+72"3. Invest in yourself. Material things come to those that have self actualized. "
I don't know what "self actualized" means. - senseigmg, on 10/12/2007, -12/+73**Wisdom**
- Sambeaux, on 10/12/2007, -19/+74This guy said "I don't want to come off as cynical"..roflmao...he sounds like the most cynical mother I've run across in a long time. I, too, am an older man, and you young men out there better think twice before listening to this idiot. All you need to know to be a man, be successful, and be happy is this: 1) Find something that you're passionate about and build your life around it 2) Treat others with respect and you will be given respect 3) Always try to enlighten, improve, and exercise your mind. All that other crap will take care of itself. As my father always said about "advice"...."Wise men don't need it and fools won't heed it."
One other little truism to remember as you grow older: "The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away." - FickyFicky, on 10/12/2007, -2/+57@ebfoxbat
Self-actualization is the top level of the Maslow hierarchy of human needs (a psychological theory that was written in 1943 and is still widely accepted, but isn't without detractors).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow's_hierarchy_of_needs
(apostrophe may break the link...copy and paste if needed) - airship, on 10/12/2007, -3/+58The problem is, the young men who need this kind of advice are the ones who don't take any advice.
- valiko75, on 10/12/2007, -2/+54# 14. Don’t be afraid to tell people to “***** off” when need be. It is an important skill to acquire. As they say, speak your piece, even if your voice shakes.
Isn't it a masterpiece??? Dugg - Darksaber11, on 10/12/2007, -14/+63Wow, you are one of the reasons I hate people.
- kurtwinter, on 10/12/2007, -2/+47Advice from a young man to an old man: please stop driving.
- Scrappy1850, on 10/12/2007, -19/+63didnt bush sr have a son that served?
- Coven, on 10/12/2007, -4/+47@rooskie
I logged out after my last comment, but logged back in just to give you a red thumb. - ahhell, on 10/12/2007, -23/+64Yeah...how is getting in a fistfight good advice??
- knupso, on 10/12/2007, -26/+67Why are you tools digging cGt2099 up? That's just jackassery.
Both parties are full of career politicians which are mostly just self serving lowlifes.
davebg8r has it right think for yourself before just spouting one sided political rhetoric.
You sound like the republicans the guy is complaining about.
*sigh*
As always though, you jackasses(both parties) will keep voting your 8 term senator back in office and wonder why this country is headed for disaster. - hackwrench, on 10/12/2007, -28/+67In real life, Republicans portray themselves as winners against a neverending stream of people out to victimize them.
There, fixed. - loquax, on 10/12/2007, -4/+41"speak your peace, even if your voice shakes"--Great line. Good post.
- code_of_life, on 10/12/2007, -5/+41* Remember, 97% of all advice is worthless. Take what you can use, and trash the rest.
- rholloway, on 10/12/2007, -1/+35no, 20 means to mind your own business, 21 means don't be a chump, and 22 means don't expect to ***** every woman you talk to.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -15/+48Take it from a kinda old man, this guys on the money.
Somethings good do come free.
Dugg up!
Old men send young men to die in wars to fill the pockets of the old men. - Attrition, on 10/12/2007, -5/+37Thank you!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3433. Playing with it is fun!
- tcquad, on 10/12/2007, -1/+29Some people considered it a revolutionary thought?
- epsilona01, on 10/12/2007, -9/+33Bush Sr has a son that joined the military, not necessarily one that served his country in it.
- tcquad, on 10/12/2007, -5/+29Because he says women are doing well in society? Because he says that you should back up your wife even when she's wrong? That's misogynistic?
- Markademus, on 10/12/2007, -11/+34BAH, 97% of that advice is worthless.
- Jerim, on 10/12/2007, -0/+23@dvfreelancer
I don't think he was talking about money. What I took it to mean is that you don't owe anyone anything. You don't owe your boss an extra hour of work. You don't owe some store in your neighborhood your business because they were nice to you that one time. You don't owe your friend a place to stay for a while. You just simply don't OWE anyone *****. Now, you can do these things because you are nice, but you should never feel obligated. Obligation is doing something that you don't want to because you feel like you have to. You don't have to do anything you don't want to. You have as much a right to be happy as anyone else. Don't sacrifice your happiness to make someone else happy. Chances are, they wouldn't return the favor. - OpticalLiam, on 10/12/2007, -1/+24Well this guy has a blog:
http://vicioustwist.blogspot.com/
Though it does say he is 39... - Darthmalt, on 10/12/2007, -1/+24@cmiller
Yeah because none of the wars in ancient times or the middle ages were ever fought over land. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -33/+56"tax breaks for people who spend"
I know this doesn't fit into the Democrat / Liberal / Robin Hood brainwash mindset but a tax break is NOT the goverment giving money away. It's the goverment taking a little less of someone's money. Then again most of you guys aren't old enough to pay taxes (other than income tax) so I can understand why that point would be confusing. - mbrutsch, on 10/12/2007, -1/+24"Remember this when taking this guy's advice."
Well, duh. That's why he repeated it as number 30. - ncdoyle, on 10/12/2007, -2/+23... to party!
- JavaApe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+21That might have been good advice, once upon a time. When I was younger (I'm 44 now), I got into a number of scraps. Won a couple, got beat up a few more. Learned that getting beaten up for standing up for myself was not a terrible price to pay, and chicks dig scars. But that was in rural Montana twenty-some years ago. Fights ended with a bloody nose or a split lip - both combatants generally got up and went home afterwards. Putting your opponent in the hospital was considered bad form.
Somewhere along the line, the world changed.
I ended up taking a lot of martial arts training. I didn't fight at all after starting karate -- my sensei would have kicked my butt. Years later I was working nights as a bouncer in a cowboy bar during grad-school. I saw a lot of fights -- and suddenly it's not enough to knock your opponent to the ground with a fat lip or a black eye. Now everyone wants to kick/stomp/whatever the loser, even if he's unconscious. If I hadn't intervened, a lot of simple red-neck fisticuffs would have ended in permanent injury. In this crazy, hyper-violent world, only an idiot gets into a fight he can avoid. -
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