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- evanmyers, on 10/11/2007, -10/+114I'm in ur gamez, makin you read!
- pdevries, on 10/11/2007, -12/+110Digg me down but how is this any different from FF7. 5 minutes of play 15 minutes of movies, repeat.
- djruden, on 10/11/2007, -16/+101Yeah, the reading sucked, so I just started skipping thru it. It's not hard to hit the button a few times. No one is forcing you to read it. It it was anything important, it's all summed up in the last line of dialogue that you can read again by talking to whatever character. After you get thru the opening, its pretty obvious what you have to do. The story is superfilious.
If you don't like it, don't read it. I thought it was worse in the The Thousand Year Door. To each their own. Still a good game in my book. - se7en11, on 10/11/2007, -6/+72@MillenniumX
Can you sum that up into 2 or 3 words? I really don't feel like reading your post. - Hoov, on 10/11/2007, -3/+66Not sure if it's going as slow for you guys as it is for me, but duggmirror caught it:
http://duggmirror.com/nintendo_wii/Super_Paper_Mario_It_s_Not_Me_It_s_You_PIC/ - MillenniumX, on 10/11/2007, -13/+74I'm coming rapidly to the conclusion that this game was written for people who enjoy reading and thinking about what they've read. Fortunately, I enjoy both, and thus the game was awesome. I have very little in the way of respect for people who find reading to be too burdensome to include in a game.
- millerbrad, on 10/11/2007, -10/+62@mykos
Dugg up for the "not equals" sign. How'd you do that? - lieutenantmudd, on 10/11/2007, -3/+50Even with hitting the close dialogue button over and over, sometimes it still takes severeal minutes to get through the dialogue. I loved the game, but the amount of text was ridiculous
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -23/+68Throwing in a novel between each level for a kid-like game is not a plot line.
- mykos, on 10/11/2007, -10/+51Copying + pasting text ≠ good gameplay. There are many more enjoyable games on the Wii that don't break up the fun with nonstop text.
- Daedalus81, on 10/11/2007, -8/+46You people bitch too much.
- BrandonMills, on 10/11/2007, -6/+42I didn't find the reading to be an issue. Of course, I love games like Phoenix Wright and Hotel Dusk.
- negativefx, on 10/11/2007, -7/+36The dialog was actually pretty funny for a video game. Not as good as the Mario & Luigi games from GBA and DS, but still pretty good.
The nerdy guy in world 3 (?) was a highlight...particularly his NERRRRRRRRRRR comments. lol. - Cerialthriller, on 10/11/2007, -2/+30reading is FUNdamental!
- vclortho, on 10/11/2007, -7/+34I like the game enough...
- Lumiras, on 10/11/2007, -3/+24If the dialog was actually well written and interesting, it may have been tolerable, but it was just waaaay too much reading with no payoff, really. Too bad, the gameplay is actually quite interesting
- ExSlashdotter, on 10/11/2007, -5/+26on digg: ≠
on slashdot: != - negativefx, on 10/11/2007, -3/+21Hotel Dusk started out good but I quickly became irritated with it. Phoenix Wright on the other hand is the *****. And I'm with you on SPM...I don't find the reading a problem. Kids these days....
- Fragmatic, on 10/11/2007, -4/+20What about MGS2? Cutscenes galore!
- TheTaoOfBill, on 10/11/2007, -1/+17I don't think anyone is telling you to not buy the game. It's still a good game. It's just a lot of reading. But it's not like it's a boring read. It's actually well writen.
- emjaymj, on 10/11/2007, -3/+16Am I the only one who thought the dialogue was well done?
- dclowd9901, on 10/11/2007, -6/+19If my girlfriend likes it, I have nothing to complain about.
- PhantomBantam, on 10/11/2007, -5/+17@millerbrand
if you're on a Mac, option+equals= ≠ - Peterh, on 10/11/2007, -3/+14The Nerdy chameleon was so funny. The only character I've enjoyed more has been Dimentio who's constant use of metaphor reminds me a lot of Fawful from Mario & Luigi Superstar Saga [comparing a battle to a sandwich].. "And I will be the mustard on that sandwich... The mustard of your doom!" In fact, I think the bad guys got all the best writing in this game... BLECK!
- dagamer34, on 10/11/2007, -3/+14Kids these days, mad that they have to READ to play a game. *sigh*
- KingGoonie, on 10/11/2007, -18/+29FF7 sucked compared to the others in the series... what are you talking about? I was a HUGE FF fan until that one. Only reason that game was so popular was because of Sony hype machine combined with RPG newbies. I give that game 7 out of 10 the most, and thats being generous. It turned me off of the Final Fantasy series until FFX.
FF6, or 3 in US... THAT was the best Final Fantasy. THAT was the best RPG ever. THAT was one of the best games ever. FF7 isnt even in top 100.
And... I'm sorry... but the reading really wasnt' that bad. Maybe I read fast, I dunno, but I didn't notice the game having any more to read then many other games. - michael1406, on 10/11/2007, -1/+11Not equal to, plus every other needed symbol, can be found in the character map.
- Purin, on 10/11/2007, -1/+11@KingGoonie: My thoughts exactly. FFVI is by far the best of the Final Fantasies. No villain in ANY game I've ever played tops Kefka.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9@falstaff
You should take some pictures and post them to digibutter.nerr - fakesinatra, on 10/11/2007, -1/+10The dialog was pretty funny at times but at the beginning of the game after a few minutes of "backstory" I was furiously whining "I WANT TO JUMP ON A GODDAMNED GOOMBA. STOP TALKING."
- danc4498, on 10/11/2007, -3/+12This game wouldn't be so bad if the reading was worthwhile, but it wasn't. It's plot was dumb and pointless which made reading more of a chore, and a chore you have to do a lot of in the game.
They should have scrapped the RPG portion of this game and turned it into a pure platformer, it could have been a really great game! - johnhummel, on 10/11/2007, -2/+11I enjoyed it, though my favorite part was running into the "Mysterious Mr. L", and my 5 year old son telling me with big tears in his eyes that we had to "Help save Luigi - I *know* that he's still good, Dad! We can save him!"
We finished Super Paper Mario, and now we're on Sonic and the 7 Rings. Now he wears his blue tennis shoes and zooms through the house. - herogear, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8Because heaven forbid people, you know...READ in this day and age. FF10 was supposedly spectacular for using voiced dialogue. Crappy, cheesy, ear-grating voice acting is somehow better than reading?
- Ahnteis, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8If you're on Windows, you can use the "character map" tool. I think it's filed under "accessories", "system tools".
EDIT: There's probably some alt+number combination too, but I never bother memorizing those. - alexp2ad, on 10/11/2007, -6/+14@millerbrad:
You could just find a site with these kind of symbols on it and copy paste them, but given some of his mac related digging history, he probably just hit Opt with the equals key on his Mac... ≠ - moofree, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9Feedback from the "GC version"? Thousand Year Door is an excellent game!
- PueSi, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9The best RPG ever is Earthbound!
- KingGoonie, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7K1, alot of the dialogue was pretty damn funny for a videogame, poking fun and mocking stuff... and I also read books CONSTANTLY. Its not Cather in the Rye, but for a videogame... and for that type of videogame (no, I dont mean kiddy, I mean platform type) the dialogue is pretty good.
- scottique, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7I loved the gameplay, and could have taken-or-left the story. (The story, not the dialogue. The story was boring, but some of the dialogue was actually really funny/inspired.)
The thing that made me mad, though, was that it was so stupidly short: I wanted more than 25 hours of gameplay before beating it. Yes, there were gotta-catch-em-all side quests (including a literal one, wherein you had to capture every single enemy in the game on a Capture Card) and recipes and such, but nothing that didn't reek of repetitiveness. I did the interesting ones along the way.
I'm not naturally great at video games, and I beat it, first time, no walk-through, in less than 25 hours. That's $2/hour to play, and that includes all that damned dialogue. - Cyber_Akuma, on 10/11/2007, -2/+8Is all of that original game data? If I recall GameCube games used a lot of redudant files and junk data to decrease loadtimes. Many GC disks took up their full space but the majority barely hit the 1 gig point.
- strixus, on 10/11/2007, -4/+10Digg me down if you want....
I play games like this to read the story and plot. If you are too lazy to bother to read, then go watch some FOX sitcom or other mind numbing and IQ reducing crap. Leave games like this for those of us who want to play them.
Getting someone to read anything in this anti intellectual culture is a victory for education in the nation, video game or otherwise. Maybe a game like this will turn some kid on to reading actual books, rather than watching cartoons all day.
Who knows... Final Fantasy and Zelda did it for me.... - IdanE, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6The cool thing about SPM is the fact that yes, there is a lot of dialog, and yes, the story is EXTREMELY cheesy, but it is really a fan service game. Anyone notice that the 1st dragon actually says "I am ERROR" ? This, to old school nintendo fans (read: anyone who played Zelda II) should hit a sweet spot. This game makes fun of itself so much that it's a true gem. And for those that think that there's too much dialog: that ghost at the end of world one is just for you :)
- mlvassallo, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6To be very honest- while tedious- the game is hilarious!
Seriously. - missingnoh4x, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Can somebody summarize this story in 5 words or less? I don't feel like reading.
- EagleRock, on 10/11/2007, -2/+8I can see the joke here. I haven't actually played the game, but I did watch my friend play it for about an hour. It's an interesting game nonetheless, and I don't think it really detracts from the game play. The comic did make me laugh my ass off, though!
- Sirocco, on 10/11/2007, -2/+799% of all voice acting is *****, so no thanks. When studios start hiring competent voice actors and allow them to work with finished material I'll start being interested. And don't bother mentioning "your favorite game" that has great voice overs because anyone here can counter with ninety-nine others that sucked ass.
- Cyber_Akuma, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5There ARE games where there is just too much damn reading. The problem is when the text is pointless is when you get annoyed.
Take me for example, I am the kind of guy that in an RPG has to see everyting. I have to talk to every NPC, multiple times to see every line of dialogue, read every book in the library, examine every item. I even read that entire wall in The Neverhood.
But then there was Xenogears (Hey hey, don't attack me yet, just listen). At one point me and the rest of my resistance group got called to a meeting to discuss our battle plan. They spent about half an hour just babbling about mlitary strategy, showing diagrams and blueprints of my attack plan, and basically boring me out of my skull with military talk that I did not understand.
Now, had this actually had a POINT I wouldent be angry, but then the attack came and I get into my giant robot and........ just keep going straight up, thats it, just keep going straight up, fighting anyone that attacks me on the way, until I reach the boss.
WHAT THE HELL?
Coudlent they have cut those 100 pages of confusing military babble and attack strategies down a little if it could have basically been summed up as "Go straight until you reach the boss"?
If I actually did need to use the battle plan then find, but when they use that much text for something that is completely irrelevant it gets annoying.
....... and I just realized after posting this and seeing it's preview the irony about making a large post with pointless text speaking against large amounts of pointless text >. - falstaff, on 10/11/2007, -4/+9No kidding. Damn people with short atten--
Hey, a butterfly! - SolipsismX, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6The dialog was funny at first, but then they didn't put in as many jokes,
I think this game would have been better with voice acting (aside from Mario),
That said, the part where they tell Mario he has a level 5 mustache had me laughing pretty hard. - Elranzer, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5I hope these criticisms are coming from the action gamers and the RPG gamers. Seriously, it's got way less dialog than a standard RPG, like Final Fantasy or so. And if it's the action gamers complaining, I mean, honestly: are you not familiar that the Paper Mario series is an RPG series??
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