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- AwesomeMonster, on 02/01/2008, -8/+116Anyone with a snes can tell you that the SoQ helped out alot. Anyone with a Wii can tell you that right now, It's more than necessary.
- doshindude, on 02/01/2008, -16/+81in the '80s, the SoQ made games great. It filtered out the pure crap and made the NES [arguably] the best selling console ever.
Bring it back. - soupdawg30, on 02/01/2008, -0/+45Has anyone seen the games on sale at Target for the Wii. $20 for crap that I have never even heard of.
- 10001110101, on 02/01/2008, -11/+53Original article: http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/3524/analyze ...
- booboolean, on 02/01/2008, -2/+43*****. Games like Back to the Future and Wayne's World got the Seal of Approval. It wasn't a guarantee of quality by any means, it just meant that they paid up to use Nintendo's proprietary format.
- inactive, on 02/01/2008, -1/+39Seal of Quality? Does that mean I'll have to blow on my games again to make them work?
- mywhitenoise, on 02/01/2008, -20/+53Does it really matter? I didn't even know it was gone.
- inactive, on 02/01/2008, -0/+33Different time period in gaming, there were many more gamers out there when the PS2 came around. Partly due to the success of the NES in earlier years.
- meatee, on 02/01/2008, -0/+31From my understanding, all the "Seal of Quality" meant was that the publisher paid the licensing fees to Nintendo for its use. The licensing fee also gave them permission to use other logos and (in the case of cartridge-based systems) the use of the "official" cartridges. That's why Tengen games on the NES came is differently-shaped cartridges. There's not some guy at Nintendo that plays games, saying "that game was pretty good. Approved!"
- skywake, on 02/01/2008, -0/+29The seal is there and has been since it was added. I don't think it was ever necessarily about "quality" in terms of the game content but compatibility. To quote my NewSMB game manual "Always look for this seal when buying games and accessories to ensure complete compatibility with your Nintendo product". There were ***** games on the NES, SNES, 64, Gamecube and Gameboy and all the seal ever did was ensure that you were buying something that would work.
- RajaDeVo, on 02/01/2008, -4/+31You need to give credit where it is due. This is why I hate kotaku, all they do is link to other pages. That is called DIGG. And then kotaku has the balls to claim they are a serious game website? What bull. BURIED!
- skywake, on 02/01/2008, -0/+25Some companies have a lot to answer for. I don't like to point fingers often but -> http://217.199.176.105/popcorn/
- attractivetb, on 02/01/2008, -7/+28Not really an arguable point. The NES sold 60 million while the PS2 shipped 120 million (checked on wikipedia). You can argue that the NES was the best console of all time...but not the best selling console of all time.
I loved the NES...but just sayin'. - JigoroKano, on 02/01/2008, -0/+19That neglects the fact that the video game market crashed prior to the NES due primarily to a flood of bad games.
- nocaffeine, on 02/01/2008, -2/+21hahaha i didn't either, but now that i do i sure miss it
- smiley2billion, on 02/01/2008, -2/+21I hate to break this to you, but the Seal of Quality never left. Its on every Nintendo first party title and on every licensed third party title. Games you didn't see the seal of quality on? Tengen Tetris for the NES.
http://www.blockstats.org/libraries/tetris_files/N ... - roxya, on 02/01/2008, -2/+19That's the Nintendo official seal, not the seal of quality.
(You're doing it wrong!!!!) - socalrob, on 02/01/2008, -3/+18What made it the arguable best seller was not the Seal of Quality but rather the fact that Nintendo had exclusivity contracts with most developers to only develop on the NES. Once that went away and they started developing on the Genesis, Sega gave them a run for their money.
And as for the best selling point, they are 2 different eras. The 2600 was the best for its era, the NES for the NES/Master System era, the Genesis and SNES were almost tied, the PS1 and PS2 for their eras. - BingoPower, on 02/01/2008, -0/+13Your comment has been denied the seal of quality.
- hipnotyq, on 02/01/2008, -1/+13the seal didn't stop instant classics like Superman 64, Dr. Jekyll and Mr Hyde, or Karate Kid... I would say its overrated.
- badwithcomputer, on 02/01/2008, -3/+14...you blow seals?
- morningmatters, on 02/01/2008, -1/+12Seal Of Quality is a marketing vehicle. If I remember correctly it basically cover all first party games, and third party development houses which are willing to pay Nintendo marketing fees. So no, there is no point to have it returned. If users want a quality game they can read the reviews on the internets, just don't buy a game only because of reviews from the paid reviewers like gamespot.
- jostheller, on 02/01/2008, -0/+11Tommy: Here's how I see it. A guy puts a "Seal Of Quality" on the box 'cause he wants you to fell all warm and toasty inside.
Ted: Yeah, makes a man feel good.
Tommy: 'Course it does. Ya think if you leave that box under your pillow at night, the "Seal Of Quality" Fairy might come by and leave a quarter.
Ted: What's your point?
Tommy: The point is, how do you know the "Seal Of Quality" Fairy isn't a crazy glue sniffer? "Building model airplanes" says the little fairy, but we're not buying it. Next thing you know, there's money missing off the dresser and your daughter's knocked up, I seen it a hundred times.
Ted: But why do they put a "Seal Of Quality" on the box then?
Tommy: Because they know all they solda ya was a "Seal Of Quality" piece of *****. That's all it is. Hey, if you want me to take a dump in a box and mark it "Seal Of Quality", I will. I got spare time. But for right now, for your sake, for your daughter's sake, ya might wanna think about buying a quality item from me.
Ted: Hmm. Okay, I'll buy from you.
Tommy: Well I... What? - cigawoot, on 02/01/2008, -0/+10All the "Seal of Quality" means is its a legit product and not some pirated or unlicensed 3rd party title. Now since unlicensed or pirated software can't run without physically modifying the console, I don't see the need. A "Seal of Quality" would give a false sense the game was good, which isn't always true.
- jtbndy, on 02/01/2008, -2/+12The only games that would gain the Seal of Quality are the first party Nintendo made games... at least thats the case currently.
If they brought it back, and it spurred 3rd party developers to make better games, then I'm all for it. But currently, just look for the Developer on Wii games. If it says Nintendo, there is your Seal of Quality. If not, avoid it like the plague. - DephexTwin, on 02/01/2008, -0/+9Holy crap, excellent examples. Back to the Future is basically unplayable. I mean, you seriously almost can't play that piece of crap. I loved BTTF so much that I forced myself to try to get through that game and it was awful torture.
- missingnoh4x, on 02/01/2008, -0/+8I just had an even better idea - Instead of bringing back the SoQ, just have Nintendo refuse to let developers publish ***** games at all.
- Philbert, on 02/01/2008, -1/+9Exactly what I was thinking. The NES came about in a time where kids only played with G.I. Joe and Pogo Balls and the like. The PS2 came out in a time when gaming was a big part of kids lives.
- mywhitenoise, on 02/01/2008, -2/+10You're dumb. Nintendo already makes sturdy hardware that is built to last (possibly better than Sonys, definitely better than Microsofts), you think a seal tacked on to the box will make their hardware even better?
- inactive, on 02/01/2008, -0/+7Or, they could just stop 3rd parties from making crap for the Wii. Then everybody wins.
- jtbndy, on 02/01/2008, -1/+7I think they should. No games out right now deserve it aside from the first party games.
I'm also pretty sure the devs know they just put out a piss poor game for the quick buck on most of the games. - TheWorm, on 02/01/2008, -2/+8The Wii needs some sort of crap filterer.
- MacSpoofing, on 02/01/2008, -1/+7Not 2x.
- xinxu36, on 02/01/2008, -0/+6The amount of crap that is currently available for the Wii and DS is amazing. Nintendo needs a filtration system. It would be pointless to bring back the seal and just put it on everything.
- noumuon, on 02/01/2008, -0/+5have you actually looked at your box? if not, do so. if you did, learn to read.
- DiggzDE, on 02/01/2008, -1/+6Rolleyes.gif
- gkzhang, on 02/01/2008, -0/+5They should make a Seal of Sexuality to put on games!
- Myonosken, on 02/01/2008, -0/+4You only remember the good games, not the hundreds of bad ones.
- CrossCrucial, on 02/01/2008, -2/+6No, but probably 2x more families with a tv in most or all rooms of the house
- inactive, on 02/01/2008, -0/+4Bring it back? LOL! When you see games like Gilligans Island that golden seal of quality means nothing.
- 1town, on 02/01/2008, -0/+4Touché
- h4mx0r, on 02/01/2008, -0/+4I don't know, it always felt like the SoQ was just something they slapped onto every game that got registered into their game database. I mean, there were always good and bad games, and the SoQ would be put onto all of them.
- aywwts4, on 02/01/2008, -0/+4Minigames would be Good compared to some of the putrid ***** they sell in stores. You can have fun with minigames, but the stuff parents will unknowingly buy is just disastrous.
- Xelseragoth, on 02/01/2008, -0/+4Back then, they only allowed companies to make 3 games a year for the NES, to ensure they made only good games. This (and all other forms of denying crap on the system) alienated 3rd parties. The problem is, the Wii doesn't need help pissing off 3rd parties (only Nintendo games can sell! *whine*), so idk that this would help anything... yeah, we'd get less crap, but would we get more of the good games? I doubt it, we would just get less games overall, and piss off 3rd parties more... But, who knows.
- soupdawg30, on 02/01/2008, -0/+4Those are the games. Looks like bootleg crap.
- noumuon, on 02/01/2008, -1/+5most people who talk about hardcore gaming wouldn't know hardcore if it bit them on the ass. take an old game like bubble bobble. i played that as hardcore as you can get. i put equally as many hours into playing that game as i put into playing almost every turn based rpg and most other open ended rpgs. it's not about the game itself, it's about how you play the game.
- darny, on 02/01/2008, -1/+5...which is the best tetris yet.
- deltaandroid, on 02/01/2008, -0/+4I have twilight princess, super mario galaxy and super paper mario in front of me right now, they all say "Official Nintendo Seal", and while I was looking at them, I found that they where on all my games even third party. I guess its just those that Nintendo authorized to make the games. Its a lower merit than "Seal of Quality"
- bloaded, on 02/01/2008, -2/+6By your very same logic, if I was to link this story to another news site for instance reddit, instead of linking to gamasutra or even kotaku I would like to the digg submission page.
- o0joshua0o, on 02/01/2008, -1/+5There SHOULD be a guy at Nintendo doing this. Better yet, there should be a whole team of people doing this.
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