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- djSyndrome, on 11/27/2007, -7/+130IT STEALS MONEY!!
- wisedude, on 11/27/2007, -18/+132I have one of these, and it's awesome. It feels so cool having 45 DS games on a single cartridge :)
- Uchikoma, on 11/27/2007, -3/+103I have an R4 myself. These days I usually use it so I can use my DS as an MP3. Saves me from lugging around an iPod. However, I'm not going to claim that I haven't downloaded games - quite the contrary. I'm not going to justify the downloads either because "Nintendo is making $$$" or that it's "too expensive"...and don't give me the "it's a ***** game, so I'm going to pirate it" excuse. Quit playing it, delete it and don't ever buy it.
If you think a downloaded game is good, support the developers who made the game and purchase it. If it's crappy, delete the game from the cart and leave it at that. - psycho79, on 11/27/2007, -2/+64BREAKING: You can pirate games off the internet and play them using 3rd party devices
- otatop, on 11/27/2007, -17/+63Here's a friendly tip: Instead of typing "Due to the fact that" you can just type "Because". It flows more nicely, is far fewer keystrokes, and doesn't look like you're trying too hard.
/pet peeve - Azimuth1, on 11/27/2007, -6/+49Yes, how dare a company want people to not pirate its software.
- IanPatterson, on 11/27/2007, -1/+32It made me lose the feel of having couple of really good games
- ultimazombie, on 11/27/2007, -0/+29All this talk about piracy and yet everyone forgets Gamestop sells used DS games and Nintendo gets 0 profit.
- dejavood0o, on 11/27/2007, -5/+30Gameboys don't fit in SD cards.
- thelastknowngod, on 11/27/2007, -2/+26i love mine as well. i would rather carry my ds only and not a stock pile of games as well as the handheld. its more about convenience for me rather than free games.
- blackmage439, on 11/27/2007, -4/+26No. Wrong. Incorrect. Did you pass the 3rd grade?
Game rental stores still PURCHASE the game, thereby supporting the developers. The more demand there is for a game, the more copies the store initially buys. Now, if you said, "going to a rental store and illegally copying the game is just as bad as piracy," you would be correct. Do you understand how the system works?
Store buys the game. Customer rents the game. If the customer doesn't like the game, the rental store and game developer are still compensated. If the customer likes the game, they buy a copy.
Now, onto your, and the majority of asshats', logic.
Developer makes game. Asshat 1337 h4xx0r pirate rips game. Pirate puts game up on BitTorrent. Another hypocrite asshat downloads game for free (minus cost of bandwidth). Say both asshats enjoy the game. Game developer receives NOTHING. If they didn't like the game, the developer still gets nothing for their efforts.
Your logic has just failed. - Nerys, on 11/27/2007, -1/+22I always buy my DS games. I LIKE having a row to display on my shelf. I enjoy that it gives me pleasure on some pitiful level I guess. Either way I also got one of those wonderful carts that I can stick a 2gig MSD card into. its WONDERFUL. No more carrying around my DS games. No more wearing out the labels (that it so annoying) No more loaning my games out and never seeing them again. I insist they get the chip if they want to play my games.
Sure I download more roms than I physically own but thats a matter of convenience. IE it was one giant "rar" file. Once I have it no reason to delete it. BUT I do not play any games I do not own. I can say that with 100% honesty. If I wanted to play it I would already own it. Its really that simple. I always buy my games used so cost is simply NOT that big an issue to me. I just buy them. Sometimes when new ones are $20 I even buy them new.
Its an impulse thing to me. I do not even thing about it. I want brain age BUY IT. its just that simple. The though that I wonder if I have it in my downloads somewhere burned onto DVD. Never crosses my mind I just stop at whatever game store I am passing and I buy it. Its easier its faster its nicer and I get that neat case to put on my shelf. Same with PSP games (though I ONLY buy those used way to expensive new) Same with my DVD's
In fact the only "content" I do not usually buy is TV shows. I already have them on DVD months if not YEARS before they offer them for sale. I record them off television and burn them to disc. Far more convenient nicer and better formatted than there DVD's Why would I spend WEEKS ripping 30 dvd's when I can just burn them as they air. Perfectly legal and far more convenient.
Though I do buy the sets when they come in neat cases :-) I got this X Files gift set which comes in this MASSIVE book like case. Very cool. Very expensive but worth it :-)
These companies will eventually learn the hard way if need be. I will have my content on MY terms whether they like it or not. Its just that simple. Its MY MONEY. The sooner consumers and citizens REMEMBER THIS the sooner we can put these companies in there place. - Heavy, on 11/27/2007, -0/+19No it's not R4 that costing milljons in lost software sales it's the
77,82 USD per DS game PRICE (Sweden) thats killing it! - popothebright, on 11/27/2007, -14/+32Oh *****. These calculations always make the mistake of equating a download with a lost sale. Please.
If you download an MP3 -- it doesn't mean you would have purchased the CD. The same applies to video games of course.
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------------------------------ - SublimeRuin, on 11/27/2007, -1/+18Are we sure it costs them money? - Maybe it increases the number of DS units sold?
More units means more exposure, more exposure means more people care, and more people buy a DS and those people wont ALL use the R4 chip...some will buy games. Games they wouldn't have bought otherwise. Some people who DO use the R4 chip will be parents who will want their children to enjoy the DS, and then one day after school the children's friends see it and want it. The child's friends parents who are tech dumb buy it and than buy oodles of games and show them to cousins and friends and drinking buddies and thus the DS spreads across the world (like it has) selling like crack-cakes till one day Nintendo goes "Gosh, we are the coolest!, We haz lots of money from teh DS!"
Than one day some idiot will write about how modding, or pirating, or illegal downloading is hurting their bottom line and that we should do something to change it! But that writer is just looking for a way to make some controversy and stir the pot as it were. But people will believe him and then things like the MPAA and the RIAA will show up knock on people's doors and steal their grocery money (to the tune of 100's of thousands of dollars)
When in actuality - without the pirates and modders and leets of the world - maybe....just maybe they wouldn't be where they are today, wouldn't have sold as much or been as popular.
I know at least 3 people who have purchased a DS not so much for the games but for the hardware they get to homebrew with.....
But I could be wrong. - kurtwinter, on 11/27/2007, -2/+19*****! I only bought a DS because of its ability to play homebrew - and for the record, ownership of one of these chips might be to use the DS as a media player or run emulators, not just hacked games.
- mywhitenoise, on 11/27/2007, -2/+19I think they make so much money that they don't have to 'make up for their loss".
- inactive, on 11/27/2007, -2/+18Buried. Anti-piracy propaganda.
- EtherGnat, on 11/27/2007, -0/+15...and the Dreamcast was the easiest system of all to pirate games on.
- Mohdoo, on 11/27/2007, -0/+15Since every game downloaded would have been purchased, right?
- shutz, on 11/27/2007, -1/+16Actually, the 40$ I paid for FFIII DS was well worth it to me. The complete 3D remake looked really good (the quality of the 3D is only surpassed by, perhaps, Zelda Phantom Hourglass.) Some of the other games should sell for less, though. And many do: many of the Touch Generations games sell for less, like the Brain Age games.
At the same time, I have to say that software piracy != stealing. There are similarities, but you can't equate that directly to a lost sale.
Although I mostly only use my SuperCard/SuperPass combo for homebrew (and retro emulation -- there's a really cool SNES emulator out for the DS) I have tried a few commercial games. When I liked the games, I bought them, because that way, I'm "voting with my money", meaning that I'm increasing a particular game's visible success, increasing the chances that more games like it are made. - tewcewl, on 11/27/2007, -6/+21"Piracy has very little effect on the gaming industry, i'm just trying to help level things out."
How can you say that with a straight face and mean it? You, sir, are an idiot for saying that. But, let's go ahead and apply that sort of thinking into everything else in the world. I personally think that HDTVs are too expensive right now so I'm gonna go to my local electronics store and take one, just to, y'know, level things out.
Games have always been around the $40 price point for many years and Nintendo's the only company that's keeping everything cheap with high quality stuff. - djSyndrome, on 11/27/2007, -1/+16I'm going to have to disagree with you on Final Fantasy III. That's Square's decision - not Nintendo's - to price it that high.
Besides, I paid *far* more than that for the original Japanese cartridge and an AV Famicom to play it on years ago, and I had to learn a bit of the Moon Language just to get anywhere. 40 bucks for an upgraded version, even with a few flaws, was a steal. - Xanadude, on 11/27/2007, -4/+17I'm sure the families of people who work hard on those games are just fine with you not paying for them.
- inactive, on 11/27/2007, -0/+13The planet isn't the same as the United States. For example, in Poland, I can't buy a DS game within 100km of where I live. There is no amazon or buy.com alternative to get it delivered either. Many places in the world are forced to dl games due to lack of availability.
- spyrochaete, on 11/27/2007, -1/+14It would appear that the correctness of the entirety of of your comment is indeed most certainly acceptably agreeable.
- HolemCross, on 11/27/2007, -0/+12I honestly could not stand listening to my comp's reading voice garbling over LOLs and RPs all the time on digg. I'm impressed how you folks get around so well.
- spyrochaete, on 11/27/2007, -1/+13Me too. The Homebrew scene on the DS is totally awesome. There's apps for wardriving (with packet capture), remote desktop management, ereaders, media players, pocket organizers, web browsers, DOS game emulators (SCUMMVM, Doom, Wolf3D, Flashback, and many more), and of course homebrew games.
http://www.dev-scene.com/NDS/Homebrew_Catalog is just one of many sites full of great apps. - inactive, on 11/27/2007, -1/+12Doesn't look like Nintendo is suffering very much from this. Hell, just by showing people how easy it is to pirate the games, I've gotten at least 6 or 7 people to purchase DS's and R4's themselves.
- honeymustardn, on 11/27/2007, -0/+11Well in his defence... slightly... the original pirate buys the game, then dumps it for everyone.
Eh, nevermind. - insomniac8400, on 11/27/2007, -3/+13How does a blind person play a video game?
- Luthor, on 11/27/2007, -4/+14I think part of the reason the DS sells so well is due to the ease of piracy. The easiest systems to mod always seem to sell well. The Playstation, PS2 and Xbox were all very easy to pirate games for and all sold incredibly well.
- stotch, on 11/27/2007, -1/+10big deal, if the r4 didnt exist i would not own a ds so if you calculate everyone like me then its a different number, i also own a few real ds games so even more money in there pockets
- Thujone, on 11/27/2007, -1/+10Nor does it mean that the downloader isn't already an owner of the downloaded game...
- inactive, on 11/27/2007, -0/+9make sure you get japan made kingston sd flash if youre buying memory. china made kingston and sandisk memory suck
- mastertop, on 11/27/2007, -1/+9"These days I usually use it so I can use my DS as an MP3"
Mp3 player damnit! - Smwbigboss, on 11/27/2007, -3/+11Nintendo should just come out with their own flashcart that does all the things the R4 does except play pirated games. The main reason I bought mine was so I could have a cheap MP3/video player with expandable memory. there are many users who buy flashcards just for the DS's homebrew capability, and absolutely hate software pirates.
Make a Play-Yan DS, R4 sales will drop. - kettlehead, on 11/27/2007, -0/+8I hate how people automatically look at piracy as lost sales on a 1:1 ratio, when that's definitely not the case. Nintendo's not hurting, the DS is still impossibly far from being a loss-maker.
And now, by them making a big fuss over it, more people know about the damn thing. Way to go. - SkippyDoorknob, on 11/27/2007, -0/+7CONFIRMED!
- krabat, on 11/27/2007, -1/+8I have one. I also just bought Phantom Hourglass and Contra 4. I also would never have even thought of buying Picross if I hadn't downloaded and tried it out first.
- CornmealMush, on 11/27/2007, -1/+8Hmm, I didn't even know about this. Thank you Digg! I'm out to get me some free games =P
- inactive, on 11/27/2007, -0/+7I bought 5 games this month thanks to my R4, games I would have never tried.
- BlueSkyfish, on 11/27/2007, -1/+8You might want to know what you're talking about before you open your mouth. Sony has been doing that for years with the PSP. (And I don't see Nintendo making any rootkits)
- dgendreau, on 11/27/2007, -1/+8@tewcewl: Way to spread corporate propaganda there. You cannot equate Copyright Infringement (violating a contract to make copies) with Theft (the removal of someones physical property). Both are wrong, but they are not even remotely similar acts. The former is a civil offense (like suing your neighbor over the height of his fence), while the latter is a criminal matter.
- EtherGnat, on 11/27/2007, -1/+7The blind can use the Internet just fine. It's actually been a tremendous boon to the visually impaired. Ignorance FTW!
- Ignitedude, on 11/27/2007, -4/+10Please stop submitting your personal site to Digg. Thanks :)
- lydecker, on 11/27/2007, -2/+8You can't be spending money on EVERYTHING that catches your eye. You also can't just take EVERYTHING that catches your eye. Make some decisions. If it's a game not worth $40, don't get it! Don't play it! You don't deserve it!
- vypergts, on 11/27/2007, -0/+6I believe that 4gb is the maximum that the R4 will work with. However, this article is pretty myopic since it's not like the R4 is the only device that lets you play backed up games and homebrew apps on the DS. And lots of those other slot 1 cards DO support SDHC up to 16gb-32gb. It's also not fair to single out the R4 because people have been doing the same thing with the PSP and the BUILT IN memory stick support since it came out too. This article is completely bogus just like pretty much every other article about piracy. There's no data to support that all of these supposed "losses" would translate into ACTUAL sales. Hacks, Mods, and game enhancers are all about extending the functionality of devices, and not having to carry around +40 proprietary game cartridges or discs everywhere you go.
- spyrochaete, on 11/27/2007, -1/+7ROMs are between 8MB and 128MB.
- emjaymj, on 11/27/2007, -1/+7This is usually a week as hell argument, but I have to agree from experience. Even all the games I've legally purchased I now play on my R4 instead just so I don't have to haul a dozen games around.
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