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- ersatzphi, on 10/12/2007, -4/+68very interesting video and very depressing for those left out of the spotlight.
- NoNom, on 10/12/2007, -2/+60Ashlee got a record deal because of her sister's *****.
- Charlotte_Web, on 10/12/2007, -1/+46Ah, this explains why Ashley Simpson had to lip sync her performance on SNL.
It also explains why the Paris Hilton album got such good reviews.
Coming soon: the artist won't even be needed in the studio. The computer will analyze a sample of the person's voice, and then create songs perfectly sung in that voice. - sockpuppets, on 10/12/2007, -8/+53Settle down Beavis.
- sockpuppets, on 10/12/2007, -5/+47And you couldn't pay me to put "Mean Weiner" on my ipod.
- oOLiquidNightOo, on 10/12/2007, -4/+43look, i know you were broke up when justin & britney broke it off but life does goes on.
- alephsmith, on 10/12/2007, -4/+35@theblooms "REAL" and "myspace" in the same sentence.
Good one. - Felion, on 10/12/2007, -1/+29Want to support good, real music? Go to live gigs! The bands get far more of the takings compared to record sales and you get to see what they actually sound like! Live music is the way forward. Plus most rock is awesome live!
- Urusai, on 10/12/2007, -1/+28There's good music out there. It's hard to find, though. Don't confuse hard to find with good. Too many poseurs think rarity/obscurity = greatness. Oh no, most acts are rare/obscure because they suck.
- riddlebox, on 10/12/2007, -5/+31I already have Meanweiner on my iPod. But its under Weezer...
- Covv, on 10/12/2007, -2/+25People like you are the reason that we have no control over this situation. Way to be placated and compliant; someone should call the RIAA and tell them that a sheep is missing from their flock!
- bioxeed, on 10/12/2007, -2/+22how is it something they don't have control over? or does the term "vote with your wallet" mean nothing?
- anymir, on 10/12/2007, -3/+21Saying pop music is soul-less is incredibly stupid. Do you realize how many artists are classified under "pop"?
- lordhidetora, on 10/12/2007, -1/+20this is kinda sad...
- Llanowar, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19True...
There is good taste and bad taste. - raymondmarble, on 10/12/2007, -6/+22I certainly don't want to defend soul-less-ness and wrong-ness, but hasn't it always been this way?
Even 50 years ago. The Beatles video that is on the front page of digg's video page talks about about how the Beatles were the first non-fake stardom in rock and roll. All previous stardom was created by the producers who wrote the songs, dictated what the musicians said, dictated what the musicians wore, dictated what the musicians thought...
I mean, yeah, it sucks, but it's nothing new.
If you don't want to be a part of it, don't buy the music, don't sell out to the record companies, stop listening to commercial radio, stop watching MTV, stop buying big label CDs, support your local indie band who isn't singed at all... - Llanowar, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15Ehmm... I assume everyone thinks their own taste is better than that of others. Kind of logical isn't it?
- krinthekuz, on 09/16/2008, -3/+16@MusicalGenius
chopin is the man.
for anyone who doesn't know, music as we know it (this simple format with a melody that's repeated 3 times) started in the late 1600s and is formally known as the genre called renaissance. most of the time when people hear it, they call it "classical". the idea was that the layperson could catch onto the melody quick and be able to hum or sing along. so this 300 year old formula concept is hardly new. the only additions have really been corporate anti-competitive tactics, astro-turfing of skill and talent promotion, media monopolies, hair bleach, and boob jobs. welcome to the 21st century. - HP844182, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14If it's that easy..can someone make me a sexy pop star? I want chicks.
Unless I end up someone like Britney Spears.... - MusicalGenius, on 10/12/2007, -11/+24Real music was written by Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, Mahler, Strauss, Rossini, Vivaldi, Liszt, Chopin, Tchaikovsky, Rachmaninoff, Schubert, Wagner, Elgar, Handel, Debussy, Vaughan Williams, and so forth.
- farfignugin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14@otto
I work in the music industry and I get what you are saying. I also understand why so many people get upset over this. The reason is that if people without talent are scoring all these record deals because they look good, then there are less record deals for the people who are talented. As this happens more and more, less and less talented and creative people in the industry. I understand all you want is to be entertained, but if nothing new is ever created how entertained will you be? - eplawless, on 10/12/2007, -5/+18"better taste in music than 99% of all diggers, but I still enjoy a fine pop-hook."
contradiction - strat0tele, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11I don't need a video to tell me that. Not ALL pop artists are no talent ass clowns, but some are. Can only blame the people who like it for creating a market.
- vagarach, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12For sure, at age 13 in 1999, I was loving the MTV European Top 20. The whole manufactured-ness of pop music makes for perfect, likeable songs. As one's tastes evolve it plays a lesser role, but it has its place, that is definite.
Some people always prefer stepping out of the mainstream..... - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12Whoa! That was close! I almost dugg you up until I saw "Journey"!
- MusicalGenius, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13@republicoftexas
The problem with that is this.. I love to write music. It is my life. I use Sibelius 4 to write my scores or plain manuscript. If I were to write a melody and let a computer write the rest of the parts based on the melody, I wouldn't have really written the song. In the video she really isn't singing anything. The computer is for her. She sings a little but horrible. Now She could have spoke it and they could have used it. (I'm familiar with the software) The problem is, SHE isn't making music, the computer is. If Bach said he wrote a melody and hired another composer to write the rest of the score and the media displayed the composer as Bach only, he'd be a fraud. What your saying is who cares of DaVinci used a camera and adobe photo shop to make a painting. I don't care if he does it, as long as he doesn't claim to be a painter. DaVinci didn't need to cheat, neither did Bach. Why do they, because they AREN'T Real musicians. It mocks the whole meaning of art and expression. The worst part is how many people will support them anyway.
P.S. I'm listening to Chopin as we type. Etude in a minor - tysonkad, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13Just listen to Tool.
- KillerBears, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Thank god for Pro Tools
- seanleeforever, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12I don't understand why he gets flamed so much. he was just talking about the truth.
much like illegal drugs, it sells, it sells. no matter how much you bitching about it. you don't have to buy drugs, you don't have to pay for that souless pop songs, but as long as there is a sufficient number of people buy it, your protest is completely useless. - vashmyvindows, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8"Okay, that's...painful..."
classic - petroK, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8excellent point sooperdooper,
twee pop, dream pop, and my latest listen on a sunday morning genre, Baroque Pop....all pop, but there are a number of artists in those genres that are really good musicians and lyricists and do excellent in live performance
I mean Sufjan Stevens and the Decemberists are pop...as is Bright Eyes... these are some of the finest recording artists in the business today (IMHO). I think "pop" isn't inherently bad. But Fergie, Brittney, Jessica et al are not doing much for music (Same could be said for a number of older artists, it just seems like such bubble-gum crap is a lot more visible lately...don't ask me why) - Doofy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Video pop stars are so 90's!
You have to go to Laguna Beach High to be a star today. - ekso, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10And how do you change America then? (or any other place in the world?)
My bet: better education. - tweak13, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Your post is off by a pretty large margin. The Renaissance era lasted around 200 years, Baroque about 160, Classical around 90, Romantic about 95.
We're also still in the contemporary era. - petroK, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7not so loud... the RIAA may be listening. Don't you know that live performance could mean the end of the importance of record sales and may be a viable alternative for artists to share their music freely and still earn a good living... If we watch them live, but only "steal" their music recordings, you-know-who gets less of a cut.
- deepdiggdude, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8The reason today's pop music is "soulless' is simple.
The pop era - that which began in the late fifties - is virtually dead. Look at history.
The baroque era lasted approximately 65 years. They thought it would last forever. It didn't.
The classical era lasted for around 65 years. They thought it would go on forever. it didn't.
The romantic era lasted for about 65 years. It seemed it could never end. It did.
The contemporary/jazz era lasted for ...you guessed it ...about 65 years. It was replaced by the pop era.
What will be next? I don't know, but it's very near. - spaeschke, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10Big whoop.
Music is all about peaks and valleys, and while I'll grant you that we're in a pretty big damned valley right now, I can guarantee you that eventually another new wave/grunge movement will hit, be fresh for a while, and then be coopted. It's the circle of life, people.
Pop is meant to be disposable *****, and I can't really find it all that offensive because it doesn't purport to be anything beyond that. Hell, I find emo a lot more annoying precisely because it's derivative *****, and yet pretends that it's somehow a profound statement of ennui. It's not, it's just as derivative as any overly filtered bubblegum pop, but at least the pop doesn't carry around jackass pretensions. - armbar, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Have you tried rapping about your hard childhood in the 'burbs?
- negativenancy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6You're talking about mainstream, commercial rap... which is fine I guess- most forms of music have a "mainstream" component that is basically a watered-down substitute of the "true" music (whatever than means). You make brash generalizations on rap based on what you hear on the radio and television- dig a little deeper and you will find the Hip Hop music and culture is probably just as deep and intricate as your favorite genre's.
- sinatosk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6no no... it IS sad
- Adamande, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6If you want real music nowadays you have to look to the independent labels. The big corporations are pushing 90% plastic, overcharging everything, and criminalizing their customers. Pop is a dirty business.
- BunnyWunny, on 10/12/2007, -7/+13Double this for Rap (music?). No talent? No problem, you don't even have to sing. Get lots of tattoos, shave your head, do the hand-thing and your all set.
- clokwise, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I admire your reasoning, and the time periods are arguable but still reasonable. However, these musical periods were not all consecutive, so just because the pop era is coming to a close does not mean another musical period will arrive shortly.
Just my own opinion, if I had to guess what the next musical era will be, we will see a demise of copyright and big and small artists alike will release music for free. The music companies, publishers, and rights agencies will be redundant. Music will be eclectic and creative once again. In other words, music will be judged on it's own merits. Artists will survive by direct sales and performances. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9...i do the hand-thing all the time, but I'm still no rap star :(
- Voltagensis, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Underground bands are the lifeblood of the art. Artists who see beauty and expression in music will always have the best creations. Furthermore, for anyone to excel at anything, they must have enthusiasm, interest, and belief in what they're doing.
Music must have substance, inspiration, a distinct essence to be classed as "beautiful." When I listen to the radio these days, I hardly find that sublayer of artistic motive. Where did it go? It went out the window once they discovered that the average person doesn't know art from his own *****, and that all the complex things like "emotion" and "talent" are entirely unnecessary in addressing that demographic.
The music industry has always been dirty, but it is far dirtier today than ever before. - Murdats, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4why do you say those names? because they were good and memorable, will you remember the big thing on the radio this week 20 years from now, or even 2 days after they stop playing it?
the greats are remembered for years to come, the mediocre are fast forgotten (but make fast cash) - thefinger, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4that video is sad
"being a girl is so demanding.... it's a wonder I'm still standing"........ funny..... almost no demands were made of that particular "singer" at all. The techs and the musicians fixed it up for her. Low. Lower than even American Idol. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Howzabout I dig you down for being a troll, and pontificating without even bothering to watch the featured video first?
That pitch changing software is incredible! It makes *me* want to try and record a song, and I sound terrible. Seriously- the tiles crack off the walls when I try to sing in the shower.
Also, in regards to the few who wrote "if it sounds good, good enough", I respect your opinion, and lets be real- when it comes to music, its all opinion. However, the way I see it, "professional" music is only going to invest so much money in a given period to developing new acts. When all the focus is sunk into smoke and mirrors, rather than finding the best raw talent, we end up missing some of the best music in the world.
To put it another way: if this technology can be used to make a lousy singer sound good, couldn't it make a good singer great? And consider this: what could it do for a great singer?
Of course, some music is fantastic *because* of the lack of technology used, not despite it. This is, IMO, why music rules: it can go anywhere and do anything, limited only be the creativity of the artist.
Do you want "good enough"? Why not seek something better than the status quo? After all, that's what all great artists do.
Boy, this turned into quite a rant. Enjoy the rest of your weekend. - CanceledCzech, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5More like nauseating.
- kenmantx, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5That video is what I've been preaching for 10 years. Take any pretty, talentless ***** with a few million dollars and you have an instant pop star. Hype it to all hell through your heavy-handed and monopolistic media outlets and you have a mega-star. ***** it.
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