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- JoCoProductions, on 03/12/2009, -3/+17Really? Two dupe submissions on the front page at once?
- wollsmosh, on 03/11/2009, -0/+13This could be big. I've been wondering how long this would take. The RIAA have been nibbling away at peoples right in the name of the artists for a long time. It's about time they spoke up in an organized fashion. In many-a-debates have I wished I had a list of artists who publicly disagree with the RIAA's methods, it can really punch wholes in a lot of arguements.
- Morghin, on 03/12/2009, -0/+10"RIAA - For Artists, Against Artists"
You know you've ***** up bigtime if you need an organization to counter the organization that was supposed to work for you.
Thing is, we'll always get new artists with new ideas that can see the writing on the wall. The RIAA and their bunch are probably the same old fogies (or a good friend of them) that fought the casettes, and just can't see the writing on the wall. The problem with innovation is that it takes effort to adapt, and, most importantly, money to invest in new things. They likes holding on to their money, as well as the artists money. - Misinformant, on 03/12/2009, -0/+10***** the *****' *****
- taketaketake, on 03/12/2009, -2/+11Go Radiohead
- dungbeetle, on 03/12/2009, -0/+8I really believe that people who pirate would pay for what they download if they really liked the artist and knew their money was going straight to them.
- Amadeus2490, on 03/12/2009, -0/+7Many aspiring musicians are shattered when they learn the way the music industry currently works. Things need to seriously change; Some of us would like to be able to make a decent living using our natural talents.
- MLisa, on 03/12/2009, -0/+7What happened to the "Check for prior postings?????????" Less than one hour apart.
- RMoore08, on 03/12/2009, -1/+7If by rocks you mean sucks, then yes.
- DrLeePhD, on 03/12/2009, -1/+7DINOSAURS WILL DIE!
- MAGZine, on 03/12/2009, -0/+5Must be a really good article if it's on the fp twice.
- pseudononymist, on 03/12/2009, -0/+4every night
- mykinco, on 03/12/2009, -0/+3Take the power back!
- pseudononymist, on 03/12/2009, -1/+4Robbie Williams and Radiohead working together on something that everyone will like? What a crazy world!
- rendereduseless, on 03/12/2009, -1/+4look 6 stories down, and you will see something amazing... the exact same title!
- wollsmosh, on 03/12/2009, -0/+2It's not just about contracts, they want to change the laws. The same argument was used back in the day before their were labour unions, and employers could ***** their employees however they pleased.
- bomb288, on 03/12/2009, -0/+2and i do believe no one will cry
- mikeserv, on 03/12/2009, -1/+3I like how the article title says "Top Artists" and the phrase "top artists" is used several times in the article, and yet only two names are dropped throughout: Radiohead and (some band I haven't heard of, sorry).
I mean, I hate the RIAA, and I LOVE pirating, but I never say, "Oh yeah, I just downloaded this song from mininova because the record labels really get my goat." Instead a conversation like this might transpire: "Man, that's some really good music! What is it?" "Oh," I'll reply, "some band I heard on the raido once. I just stole the whole album yesterday."
Pirating is pirating is pirating. If the "Top Artists" wanna submit their music to file-sharing groups then more power to them, but I do think that there's a very distinct line between straight-up stealing (which I do often and without compunction, because I really don't care how much a band makes) and how a band might choose to distribute their music online legitimately.
The truth is a band needs to make their name at SHOWS, and, once they've done so, they should decide how they want to distribute their music. If they do so with a LABEL, then they should abide by their contract, or be branded PIRATES. A contract is a contract is a contract.
I'm far from being against bands forming their own lobby group. But, please, new lobby group, don't go crying to legislative entities because the labels are defending the rights that YOU GAVE THEM in YOUR CONTRACT when you signed it. INSTEAD DON'T SIGN with mainstream labels and distribute your music as you see fit, THEN form a lobby to represent other artists like you. Your argument will hold a lot more water. - Kannebas, on 03/12/2009, -0/+2I think the question you must ask yourself is "Where does it stop"? When home videos get ripped from YouTube because the director's stereo was too loud and when record labels are getting their artists official YouTube and MySpace pages deleted you must ask yourself, "Where does it stop"? When a particular artists condemns file sharing as stealing while they themselves are on trial for literally stealing songs and saying they wrote them, you must ask youself, "Where does it stop"? When the RIAA consistently says that their aim is to "protect the integrity of the artist" while trying to lower their artists' royalty percentages, ask yourself, "Where does it stop"? When the RIAA (im)famously attempted to sue a dead person in 2005, ask youself, "Where does it stop"? (after you ask, "Wait, are you SURE that wasn't from The Onion"?) When the RIAA (im)famoulsy failed to sue a web site for over a trillion dollars, ask yourself, "Where does it stop"? And when you read up on the DCPA '06, ask youself, "Wait, are they ***** serious"?!
/stump_speech - inactive, on 03/12/2009, -1/+3I bet they are happy to join the cue with 24 thousand others @ $120 each to see them...
- dungbeetle, on 03/12/2009, -0/+2That's the thing. The money is going to Apple and Microsoft and then to the artists. They don't get the whole cut. And as for the Radiohead thing, maybe all those "pirates" downloaded it first and found out they didn't like it so they didn't bother paying for it. The people who like Radiohead paid for it. The people who don't didn't.
- sodade, on 03/12/2009, -0/+2I have a simple solution to the economic cancer that is the RIAA: revoke their corporate charters.
- brickbat, on 03/12/2009, -1/+2Better late than never.
- mikeserv, on 03/12/2009, -0/+1You mean like porn stars?
-Mike - NorrisOBE, on 03/12/2009, -0/+1I've signed up. What about you?
- wollsmosh, on 03/12/2009, -1/+2well benologist, with the internet, it is no longer a fact of life. get used to it.
- KRY4no1, on 03/12/2009, -0/+1Other than Radiohead, which other musicians are "top artists"? And top of what, exactly? The RIAA hit-list?
- wollsmosh, on 03/12/2009, -2/+3I can only speak for myself, but I certainly care. ***** you for trying to tell me what I do and do not care about.
- wollsmosh, on 03/12/2009, -0/+1http://www.featuredartistscoalition.com/who_we_are ...
- inactive, on 03/13/2009, -0/+1I'm posting this comment on both of the duplicate submissions of this article - because both submitters are powerusers (obviously, look at their profiles for goodness sakes) and I cannot tell which is the original submission at all, due to all of this they are both duplicates in my mind.
Niether submission is getting my digg because niether deserve it. - Kannebas, on 03/12/2009, -0/+1TOP... Artists!
- Kannebas, on 03/12/2009, -0/+1Iron Maiden?!?!?!? I'm in...
- xprojects, on 03/12/2009, -1/+2@DocGlass: there's a lot of humans out there too, so that basically invalidates you, and even more-so your opinion, under your own logic. Congratulations.
- ssj2119, on 03/12/2009, -0/+1They should have named the organisation Featured Legal Artists' Coalition
Then they could have claimed that .flacs are the best :p - iridesce, on 03/13/2009, -0/+1“It’s like taking out a mortgage on a house, paying off the mortgage and you still don’t end up owning the house,” - sounds like my county's tax system - sshhhh, don't talk about the gun in the room.
- Jacare, on 03/12/2009, -0/+1benologist: you can usually send a meal back at restaurant if you don't like it, this usually hinges on how much of it you have eaten. and if your really didn't like the meal and ate it anyway, you can always force yourself to puke on their table, this usually results in a free meal and/or free coupons/vouchers.
- spo0oky, on 03/12/2009, -0/+1Just like I believe in a separation of church and state, industry and music should also be pulled apart. Name some of the most popular bands and you'll find a machine behind it. This doesn't mean they are particularly GOOD bands, but they sound perfect. Take away the producers, songwriters, vocal teachers, dance instructors, and all you are left with to go on is an artists' talent. I support talent, and ***** the machine.
- Amadeus2490, on 03/12/2009, -0/+1Porn stars make very good money for what they do. You can get paid a couple thousand per scene, and many of 'em do escorting on the side, which means they wind up making about $10,000 per month or more. If you have porn on your record, you'll never be able to get a normal job again. If this doesn't bother you, and you're willing to keep doing porn, you'll make a comfortable living.
A musician is lucky to make about $20,000 a year, and this is including giving lessons from their home, struggling for session work, playing weddings etc. The only real money in music is in having an image popular enough to sell. You have to make companies want you to endorse their product(s), and you have to eventually use your image to start your own label, manage/produce other artists etc.
-Amadeus - ktetch, on 03/12/2009, -0/+1Lets see, Robbie Williams - BIG selling european artist, also used to be in the 90's Boy band 'Take That'
Travis - another big UK band, and check out this story about them - http://torrentfreak.com/travis-defends-fan-from-if ...
Wet Wet Wet - 80s band also popular in the 90s. The main song from 4 weddings and a funeral was by them.
The Verve - bittersweet smyphony was very popoular in the US as well as europe, and they've had other hits as well
Paul Okenfold - very popular Dance DJ, I'm told (not my scene)
Bryan Ferry - I believe he was part of Roxy Music, another 70/s 9or 80s0 group
Chrissy Hynes was in the pretenders, (tattooed love boys for you GH2 fans)
jools Holland OBE is a TV presenter and also the keyboard player (most of the time) for Squeeze
Dave Gilmour is the guitarist, lead singer and songwriter for Pink floyd
Hue and Cry is another 80s band.
Thats just offhand, from memory, if you go look them up you'll probably find more you know, but didn't realise. - wollsmosh, on 03/12/2009, -0/+1Kaiser Chiefs, Kate Nash, Richard Ashcroft (of The Verve), Chrissie Hynde (of The Pretenders) and the Klaxons are pretty big selling names too. Personally, I'm also a fan of gang of four, but not may have heard of them.
Besides it doesn't matter i you know them or not, the point is that they make a living from music, and the record industry is trying take away our rights and a free internet in their name when they clearly don't want it. - diggitalism, on 03/12/2009, -0/+1..am I really the first?
***** THE RIAA - ktetch, on 03/12/2009, -0/+1Psst, in case no-one told you, downloading/uploading, and stealing are two different things. Stealing is a criminal offense, upload/downloading is a civil offence that goes by the name 'copyright infringement'.
Don't take my word for it though, look at every court case. Of course, thats better for them in some ways, because the standard of evidence is lower, they actually don't want it to be a criminal offense, because its much harder for them to prove their case, and worse, the targets will get legal counsel even if htey can't afford it (so the usual strategy of trying to bankrupt one way or another doesn't work) - benologist, on 03/12/2009, -1/+1lol. Apple, Amazon and Microsoft practically give music away, not to mention plenty of online radio services let you consume as much as you want for nothing or very little.
People who pirate do it because they want the latest everything without the hassle of having to spend anything or do much to get it. Even when Radiohead released In Rainbows it was being heavily pirated, despite being able to pay any amount you wanted directly to the artist.
http://www.forbes.com/2007/10/16/radiohead-downloa ... - benologist, on 03/12/2009, -1/+1Buying something you later regret buying is a fact of life. You can't eat a meal at a restaurant and then decide you didn't like it and won't pay for it. You can't buy a car, decide you don't like it and forget about the loan you took out.
That's why you read reviews, go for test drives etc. There's plenty of options to preview music before you pay for it, both iTunes and Amazon let you do it with a single click. Many band's websites let you listen to complete tracks and albums on their websites, their myspace profiles etc.
As for who gets what %, this is what the artists are fighting for now. But even if they get a significant % of online revenue they still get exactly 0% when people pirate it. - DocGlass, on 03/12/2009, -3/+3Fact is, there is so much music out there that it isn't worth anything. If you wont give it to me I'm not going to buy it.
- lefty1962, on 04/11/2009, -0/+0Who the heck would know about these artists if it werent for their LABELS spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on marketing?
Artists need to wise up.. the music industry is NOT about their music, its about making MONEY. They should know what they are getting themselves into.
When you partner with the devil, you go to hell. - PacRIP9796, on 03/12/2009, -0/+0That website reminds me of Suicide Girls, awesome
- wollsmosh, on 03/12/2009, -1/+1there*
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