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- kwilliam71, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Are we getting refunds now... this'll be a huge lawsuit.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Awesome :)
I wrote sony and told them I would boycott them until they stopped.
Maybe Sony does listen.. ;)
Josh - stealthboy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2""We stand by content protection technology as an important tool to protect our intellectual property rights and those of our artists. Nonetheless, as a precautionary measure, Sony BMG is temporarily suspending the manufacture of CDs containing XCP technology.""
Umm... right. This just means they're going back to the drawing board to find a better way of hiding all this stuff. Don't get all excited about this. They're still pure dagg nasty evil. - spectre, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Hey, There's a good idea! Kudos, Sony! Only a day late and a dollar short. Have fun in court!
- thatotherguy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2While I'm glad to hear it and also glad that Stewart Baker gave them a few words to think about.
... yet, the bad taste is still here and will remain for me; the comments made about consumers being too stupid to care and the "removal tool" installing more crap are just too much to forgive quickly. You don't do that ***** to people ... and certainly not to people whose cash buys your stuff.
The flat panel I'll be getting for the gf won't be a Sony ... nor will any other electronics I buy ... nor any devices containing Sony circuits. - ksgant, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I work for Sony.
Everything everybody is saying is pretty much right on the money. Yes the lawyers all had a meeting with the execs and there was screaming. The class action lawsuits won't make anyone richer though other than the lawyers starting them.
Also, BigDumbGuy does NOT work for Sony for one we give a spelling test to prospective employees and he would have obviously failed...and some Diggers believe anything they hear - gavdana, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Sony,
Suck my balls.
Sincerely,
Gavin - dongiaconia, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1We win? Interesting concept of win. If by "win" you mean they will attempt to justify raising the prices of the CD's they sell even higher to cover the cost of the legal fee's for this--and to come up with a better way to screw us over with wonderful software that we need to install on our boxes in order to 'guarantee the quality of the audio' & prevent illegal copying... then yea, I guess we won alright.
- BigDumbGuy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Can you say, pwned by a Fark cliche? http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=1688267 I love that cliche.
- FoneJunkie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"Go Sony. I love you again."
How freaking fickle can one be... they're still low-life scum sucking ottom feeders... they are only doing this because they got caught with their hands in OUR cookie jars... this is not some benevolent action - their butts are getting sued, class action style... and they're running scared... they still deserve to pay... and I, for one, will continue to boycott them and all of their crap. no forgiveness here... - MacGyver, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I doubt they're stopping the rootkit CD production because it can be exploited by virus writers. Most likely it's because of all the bad press the company has got from the tech world and they're worried its going to hurt ps3 sales.
- fleng, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Too late the damage is already done.
- mortal-god, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Its too little too late. Sony still insists on using rootkits to hide their copy protection software, and there I would venture to guess that most of the people that have said software installed don't know they do, and will never patch it. As spectre said "Have fun in court!"
- mntpng, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Stopping production of rookit CDs isn't good enough. They need to pull them off the shelves immediately and then offer customers replacement CDs. I'm not buying a single thing from Sony until they do just that.
- saskboy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1 Sony's rootkit has been linked to Windows crashes, which isn't surprising to me. Most spyware causes instability in Windows because it is poorly written and designed to break parts of Windows to protect itself from removal. Sony writes, "This component is not malicious and does not compromise security. However to alleviate any concerns that users may have about the program posing potential security vulnerabilities, this update has been released to enable users to remove this component from their computers."
The incongruence of their words, is not startling to me, as they are playing a PR game to hide the fact that they messed up people's computers, and made them vulnerable to an attack that hasn't gained popularity yet, but now surely will. Virus writers will be able to easily hide their virus files using programs like Sony's cloaking DRM. Sony is lying that their cloaking DRM does not compromise security of an infected computer.
Dear Sony,
I'd like you to know how displeased I am that you've put DRM in your Compact Discs, and I'm shocked that "Van Zant's" CD is reported to have a "rootkit" virus that infects Windows so that certain file names remain hidden from even anti-virus scanners. Your product has endangered thousands of music fans, by crippling their Windows system in yet another way that virus writers can exploit.
I think you owe your customers better.
Sincerely,
Saskboy
Yorkton, SK CANADA - peace, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1
Sony *TEMPORARILY* halts *production* of 'rootkit' CDs not selling. It may be just because they have too many in stock right now. - laughterkillsme, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'm never buying sony again.
- Incognito, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1***** SONY
+DIGG
Spread the word about Sony's B.S - imdigginthis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The guys at Sony don't sound that repentant. Sounds like they are stopping just because they got caught. If I were to buy music from them I expect no interference with "fair use". I don't think I can count on that from these carpetbaggers.
- MacGyver, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1What happened to that story on here earlier today about putting $sys$ before the filename of your burning software? Did it get reported?
- Acill, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Hmm, Sony is in a world of hurt, I for one am also done with them. I will keep all my many many Sony Audio and TV items, but when it comes time to upgrade its something new for me.
- uptown, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0...in other news, Sony has BEGUN production of NEW DRM-laden DVDs!!! YAY Sony!
- junkyinny, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Now all they have to do is add this to all virus scanners.. so i can detect and remove the *****..
- rebrad, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0What's amazing is that Sony is going to continue production of CD with the MAC rootkit (the Sunncomm software) since MAC users don't seem to have any problems. Not good enough. Fire the bastards. Buy Sony Stock not their products and put the corporates in the unemployment line.
- saskboy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0http://www.sonymusic.com/about/feedback.cgi
That's where you can contact Sony to yell at them. I tried to include a link in my previous post, but I'm new to Digg, and HTML didn't work. - iced, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Sony should recall all the CDs in shops, and public statement 'sorry we rootkit all your PC, so hack, virus and other nasty can have complete control of your PC we just trying to stop people buy CDs
- CraigNobbs, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0They 'conveniently' wait for a virus to appear before pulling the CD's saying that they are protecting the consumer?!? B.S. It's way to save what little face they have left.
- maloney_633, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0The damage has been done I will continue to boycott there products
- outerspaceapple, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0its about freeking time.
- Chiablo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0bigdumbguy, I think that cliche only works on fark.
There's not enough intelligent people on digg to catch the joke. - aluminumpork, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Wow, this story sure got a lot of Diggs fast. The last time I refreshed the page was only 10 minutes ago, and the story wasn't even on there, geez. Go DIGG! Also, kudos to Sony, although their attitude hasn't changed.
- mentor972, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0PRAISE THE LORD!!! WE GOT EM FELLAS!!!
- copperkidd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0We WIN!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0> The class action lawsuits won't make anyone
> richer though other than the lawyers starting
> them.
You must be new here, huh? Welcome to America.
It's not important that class action suites make anyone other than lawyers rich. The important thing about *THIS* class action suit is that it make Sony poorer... much poorer... The market place needs to send an unequivocally clear adjustment to Sony for their extremely bad judgment.
I sincerely hope that the First 4 Internet folks were being paid per copy. I also sincerely hope that Sony passes on some of the pain and suffering to the First 4 Internet shills.
> The class action suits are only getting larger
> and larger for each disc you ship!
They've been shipping discs for a year and a half; Sony is thoroughly fscked. The only way Sony is going to get right with Jesus is if they send me $10 for each rootkit infected CD that I send back to them... and that's not going to happen... hence the inevitability of global class actions in just about every country planet with a legal system and an electric grid.
> Too late the damage is already done.
I've been waiting for someone to build a bot army with the Sony rootkit. The only way it could possibly be justifiable is if they used that army to spam and DDoS Sony into oblivion. - LaserCobra, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0From now on I will be looking on all CD purchases to see if it's a Sony release. If it is, I'll be downloading that album from 'other' sources.
I'm very bitter about this. The Foo Fighters CD almost got me... - peace, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"Anyone else notice that it's finally a big news story at CNN? (tech section)..."
Yes, and I have been saying this for two weeks: CNN was just waiting for SONY to do something *right* so they could do a more *balanced* report. - Zer01, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Holy crap! They're JUST NOW stopping?
- skizatch, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Anybody see that "World of Sony" ad at the movie theater? It's really bad, long, and annoying. Maybe they should spend money on creating things actually want to buy instead of engineering viruses and painfully horrible commercials.
- spin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0'Stopping production of rookit CDs isn't good enough. They need to pull them off the shelves immediately and then offer customers replacement CDs. I'm not buying a single thing from Sony until they do just that.'
RABLE! RABLE! Amen, and all that jazz. - CKer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Personally I am not buying any more Sony products, if they are capable of this, what are they doing that we don't know about already. The only reason they stopped production on these CD's is that they got caught and the lawsuits, NOT because they think they did wrong.
CK - siouxmoux, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Finally One of stories I have summitted to digg. made it to the front page.
- .Steven, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0lol!
- karras, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Sony's on my ***** list.
They'll never knowingly get a penny out of me, as long as I know there still in business. (that also includes any subsidiaries.)
Once they lost my trust, it's gone, never to be seen again.
I'll put it this way, would you still be friends with someone who broke into your house, any time they wanted to, just to tell you that were not allowed to "fire off some knuckle children". Because blah, blah, blah?
Or a girlfriend who places GPS on your ass, and monitors where you go?
I know these aren't the best possible metaphors, but what I'm trying to get across is a principle. -> Trust.
Now there's NO trust. Who's to say the PS3 won't be littered with this type of crap? Anyone? - drycounty, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Anyone else notice that it's finally a big news story at CNN?
(tech section)... - bfbdiggsTECH, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Sony & BMG is compromising us all. Sony and BMG are now on my list of companies to boycott. The only way to get your point across is to not support their products and services. How arrogant! This is one time I hope the lawyers have their day in courts across the country.
- dieselpuker, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Sony- You broke our trust.
Now all they have to do is add this to all virus scanners.. so i can detect and remove the *****..
Virus scanners don't work on rootkits. - blah509, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"You down with XCP, ya you know me"....give me a break, later Sony
Xbox 360 anyone?
http://www.illmethinks.com/illmethinks_politiq/2005/11/have_you_been_x.html
g - diggnationdevon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Sony needs to get pwned badly.
- Dayyve, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Sony blows regardless, and they are not going to give up on this. It's a temporary victory and they won't use a rootkit again, but they will just keep exploring other options until one sticks.
Gawd I hate everything Sony now, if they existed as a 'person' I'd love to punch them in the face to teach them a lesson. Instead they'll never get one cent from me, NEVER AGAIN. - djrbx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0HAHA, *****.. lol
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