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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+82The "music industry" doesn't need to make money. The "music industry" can go ***** itself. I want my money to go to the artists.
- davdav, on 10/12/2007, -5/+57The price is right, and so is the quality.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+29They are going to have a hard time getting to them in Russia, they can't even do anything about the piracy in Canada.
- zweben, on 10/12/2007, -3/+28"The "music industry" doesn't need to make money. The "music industry" can go ***** itself. I want my money to go to the artists."
The funny thing is that I completely agree with you, and the only reason I feel that way is because of the music industry's own actions.
They would be more popular if they literally sat at their desks and did absolutely nothing all day. - JoshuaWood, on 10/12/2007, -0/+24Russia's not communist. And if you buy from most stores you're supporting communist China.
- tizz66, on 10/12/2007, -1/+23You needed an article to tell you that US law doesn't apply in Russia? o_O
- shiftt, on 10/12/2007, -1/+22Russian president Putin gave a speech a few days ago, amongst the different topics he mentioned that copyright infringement is a problem the government will deal on its own. He then stated the US shouldn't use the WTO admission to push its personal agenda.
In other words, it doesn't sound like RIAA's lobbying efforts are having much of an effect on the Russian government. If anything it sounds more like they're pissing them off. - noof, on 10/12/2007, -8/+21What's the point of "buying" a song if the artists don't get any money? It's like buying screeners from ppl on the street in thailand. I don't wanna give my money to some russian guys that abuse the law. I'd rather download it off some p2p-network instead. The only reason I buy songs is that the artists get money, which isn't the case for allofmp3.
- coding, on 10/12/2007, -10/+23Hey *****, if you can hook me up with a way to get my money directly to the artists, I am all for it, but we don't have such a perfect world yet.
- JackDoyle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12It's a Russian site... I don't know that the Recording Industry Association of AMERICA has a choice...
- o0joshua0o, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12
@smackfumaster
You must be either an idiot, or you just crawled out of a hole you've been living in since the late 80's/early 90's. The Russian Federation is not a Communist country. US - Russian relations are pretty good right now. Please do some research (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia) before you post something idiotic. - nickj6282, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13I buy stuff from AllOfMp3.com. Why? DRM. It's not the price, it's the DRM. I refuse to pay for music that includes DRM with it. I'd happily pay $0.99 to iTunes for each song if it meant I could do what I want with it, and get it in the format I want. I buy music from AllOfMp3 because they offer me the choice I desire. To me $0.99 per song in a proprietary format, at an unreasonably low bitrate, that only works in iTunes/iPod is not a choice. It's extortion plain and simple. Someone show me another site where I can buy the music I want, in any format I choose, at any bitrate I choose, song-by-song, without DRM and I'll happily switch. Price isn't the issue here, choice is.
- chozsun, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10The pricing is the least important thing on my list. I want the service that allofmp3.com gives. Until another company can do it right, God Bless Russia!
- Enchirito, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8if there's a BestBuy near you, you can pick up Stadium Arcadium for 12.00. That's 42cents/song and you can encode them however you'd like. Plus you get the cool packaging. :)
- subscriber, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Buy yourself a Visa "gift" card.
- seattle98104, on 10/12/2007, -6/+14and how is buying music off of allofmp3.com giving money to the artists?
- nayten, on 10/12/2007, -8/+16No, equusdc is right. The MUSIC INDUSTRY does need the money! There is a lot more involved in the business than being an egotistical prick singing about some girl. You've got other employees working all over the place: the album's music engineers, the media consultants, video techs, and such.
Don't flame the employees of the music industry. It's the bastards in suits up at the top who started all of this RIAA ***** who make the industry corrupt. - ph0tik, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Exactly, why bother "buying" the song at all when none of the money is going to whom it should. Might as well use P2P.
- ElectroOverlord, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10As someone that works selling music for a label....
The % of money the industry takes over the artist is not needed. Marketing is cheap anymore with Myspace, Craigslist, Godaddy.com, Orkut, Google Local ads, Yahoo Local Ads, etc etc....
Remember that when you pay for the big industry marketing budget, that money is really going to Top 40 artist (AKA Artist that suck). - lnxaddct, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7AllOfMP3 pays everything they are legally required to pay to ROMS (the Russian equivalent to the RIAA). AllOfMP3 is not responsible for distributing those funds, neither is Apple. ROMS, or in America the RIAA, are responsible for getting the money out to people. AllOfMP3 is doing nothing unethical, and yes if ROMS is doing their job right, American artists are getting paid.
- eviltandem, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6well let's review:
1. easy to find the song you want
2. works with any device you want
3. available in just about any quality you want
4. fast downloads
5. good price
what's confusing? - Enchirito, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6if only there was a legit, no DRM, 192kbps mp3 service that was up front with you about how much of your $ was going to who. Till then, i'm afraid i'll keep buying albums and riping my own mp3s.
- tizz66, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9I don't understand why anyone would use allofMP3, despite the fact it's a good price and good quality. The people that use it are probably the first to say 'screw the RIAA, they don't give enough to artists', and yet they're buying from a site where not even 1% goes to the artist. If you don't want to support the RIAA's pockets that's fair enough, but what's the point in paying for it on a site that benefits no-one? If you're going that route, might as well hop on P2P, surely?
- tempusrob, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6"if you can hook me up with a way to get my money directly to the artists, I am all for it"
There are tons of indie musicians out there worth supporting, and 99% of the time money from shows/purchases goes right to them. - hundrednorth, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7There is a difference between unlawful and illegal. The big issue here is that what is illegal in the US is not necessarily technically illegal in Russia. "Unlawful" (vs. illegal) is not codified and is based on current perceptions of lawful behaviour, and there've been cases where courts ruled that merely providing services leading to infringement by third parties is not, in and of itself, unlawful (see: Dutch Supreme Court case "Zoekmp3").
- breakneckridge, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5What if every artist started a paypal account so people could send them a $10 "donation" to support their band.
- signal15, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5AllofMP3.com is a great site. It would be interesting to see exactly how much moola they pull in every day compared to iTunes. The people I know that use it spend 10 times more at Allofmp3.com than they do with iTunes.
Interestingly enough, the price is so low, that DRM really isn't necessary. Why should I wait for my friend to upload an album for me, when I can just buy the thing for a little over $1? All of the people I know that use AllofMP3 don't swap music, they just download and pay for whatever they want.
I buy maybe 2 or 3 songs a month from iTunes music store, but probably $25 to $50 a month goes to AllofMP3. You tell me which one is more profitable. The record industry needs to take a good hard look at their pricing model and do some experimenting with extremely low pricing (like 10 cents a song, etc). If they ran an experiment on iTunes for like a week, it would give them a good idea of whether or not it would be a good long term plan. They could just pass it off to the public as the 10 cent/song promotion week, and analyze all of the stats gained from it. - Rickler, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Because it's more convenient then downloading via P2P. I don't want to have to shift through all the trash on those networks. I want the song now in good quality without DRM.
$0.16 cents for ONE song times several million purchases is GOOD profit. - pabster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I see bottles of Tums and Rolaids flying off desks at the RIAA offices...
- ErrandboyOfDoom, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6There are 250,000 bands on mySpace. You have countless dozens of local bands in your hometown.
People don't need incentives to make music, the primary reward is built in.
People who do need monetary incentives to make music probably shouldn't be making music anyway. - LowenSoDium, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6"How much of the 11 cents makes it back to the artist, however, is open to question, not matter how legal the site's sales may be."
The exact same thing can be said about ALL purchased music. - Chris12, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Smackfumaster: I think if they were a dodgy company, they wouldn't take 14% of the UK market. Besides what is it with you Yanks still being scared by the Russians? They are a dying out nation.
On topic - this is wonderful site where I can choose what I want to do with it - not giving it too greedy studio bosses. - breakneckridge, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Here's an idea I've been thinking about lately. After downloading an album and deciding that I like it and want to keep it, I'll send the artists a $10 bill in the mail.
There are a couple of problems with that though, the money is likely to be pocketed by whoever opens their fan mail and they still might be pissed because if everyone does that it wont show up in their sales numbers. But until the RIAA and music companies stop their b.s. I do not want to buy anything in a manner that puts money in their pockets.
Anyone have any better ideas of how to pay the artists without supporting the corruption in the industry? - dognose, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5It's my understanding that allofmp3.com does pay royalties based on Russian law. They consider the playing of the song over the internet a "performance" and they pay the song writers some set fee.
- Strahd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4As has been pointed out by other posters in previous discussions, a legit Dutch company (Chronopay) processes credit card data for AllofMP3. Your Allofmp3 comrades never see your credit card number.
- ElectroOverlord, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Might want to think of that download as exposure. I know TONS of artist that would kill to get their music out there on that service. I only know 40+/- artist that are begging for less attention.
Why do we embrace democracy in government but a dictatorship in music? - nickj6282, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I do buy plenty of CDs. Three in the past week in fact. But when it's just one or two songs, paying $10-15 for the CD just isn't cost effective. I didn't say I buy a lot from Allofmp3, but I do buy from them. Of the thousands of MP3s on my PC at home, over 99% of them are ripped from CDs that I own. The Allofmp3 ones account for probably less than 50-60 total tracks.
But your point is taken. I'm actually working on ripping everything to Flac now too, just for archive purposes. KDE sure makes it easy too with drag-and-drop CD ripping and encoding! - lnxaddct, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3AllOfMP3 lets you choose the format and bitrate. You can get lossless if you want. They charge on file size, but even most lossless files go for around 17 cents (compressed files go for around 7 to 10 cents per song)
- lnxaddct, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Coding,
Yea, I'm sure all of the great artists in the history of humanity all did it just to get paid. Creating music, art, plays, etc... for centuries had been something that people created because they loved it. Beethoveen lived off of his music, but he wasn't rich. No one got rich off of their creativity, they did it because they loved it. It wasn't until around the 20th century that people started pretending to be creative so that they can get rich quick. It is non-sense. I say do away with it all, and now. Go back to when people created for the sake of creating. When people looked up to these artists because of what they've done, not because of the size of their purses. If you take the money out of the equation again, all of the truly creative people would come back in the spot light, and these dumb ass singers/bands put together by corporations to make a hit or two and get the executives rich quick would be done with. You say that if the money goes away, that creativity will cease, but its the money that is causing creativity to cease. As others have said, there are plenty of great indie groups out there, but the marketing blitz that record companies do to us all stops us from ever experiencing much of it. - Kindred420, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I use AllOfMp3 atleast twice a week,probably spend atleast 10$ a week there.
I love the interface and the ability to preview the entire albums before i buy. And choosing the bitrate or file type is also cool. Itunes is just too clunky for me. - Poco, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Now, that is the right price. This is what iTunes "should" be charging.
Maybe once the RIAA gets their heads out of their asses they will realize that people will download more than ten times as much stuff if they charged one tenth the price.
I wonder if they expose enough information for someone to see how that business model could work. That is, IF they did pay a small license fee to make everyone happy, would the RIAA make more money or less money? For example, how many songs does each user of that service download compared to the number that iTunes users download?
One day we might be able to fill our iPods legally without a second mortgage. - Daniel591992, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3pleople dont mean poop when they say it :P
- animalMother, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I've been using this site for awhile and it really is sweet. Tons of songs at a very low price. The quality is outstanding.
- M2Ys4U, on 10/12/2007, -6/+9They pay the russian equivilant of the RIAA (who represent the industry & artists, and aren't lawsuit-happy)
- Terc, on 10/12/2007, -6/+9...And their encoding servers went offline today
- potentato, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3On P2P I can't pick the encoding I want, and I'm not guaranteed that someone didn't just rip 10 minutes of skipping.
- xelpmoc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3192 kbps is not CD quality. In fact, MP3 is never CD quality.
- Poco, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Then why download music at all, just rip the CD. You get better quality for the same price, sometimes less, and you can rip as many copies as you want.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3"...192 kbps is cd quality"
AAARRGGHHH!!!! You gotta be kidding me! - AstroPHX, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3You, my goose-stepping friend, are a fool if you supply any online company with your true credit card number. See 'Virtual Cards': http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/30/AR2005093001679.html.
On a side note, I didn't realize the colors in non-US flags were water-soluble. Interesting. -
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