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- ollywompus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+54You know what I would love? If the RIAA's site was defaced, and every link pointed towards the Pirate Bay's Legal Threats page.
That would rule.
-olly - crom99, on 10/12/2007, -2/+31I'm curious how much of this $100m made it into the hands of the artists they supposedly represent.
- Kazanoe, on 10/12/2007, -4/+29What happened to the MAFIAA?
- mjaleo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+20The record companies are suing the people who are potential customers and rob artists of 95 cents of every dollar.
So why are these big ***** still around? - MalDON, on 10/12/2007, -2/+18They are like a ***** mafia.
- mrcriminy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15Why settle for a link? Why not just paste the whole Pirate Bay's Legal Threats page onto the front page. Looking at the website, I think, "Who would go further than the front page?"
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15*cry*
I am SO distraught over this!
How is Paul Wall going to afford that new set of diamond encrusted grillz?!
OH MY GOD THE HORROR! This is SO unfair! Poor Paul Wall and Nelly! The HUMANITY! - DrakeGTA, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16You know, maybe this is their new business model, suing people, it works for SCO.
- FatD, on 10/12/2007, -6/+19When I was 4 my dad told me to roll some old rims in the trash, and then I was outside. Then when I he was not around, A Mexican stop by and I asked if he would be able to have the rims, my dad he said sure. Subsequent my father spared me of the house and WHERES asked THE DAMNED RIMS that SAID YOU TO PUT THE LIMITS, The had me seeking hours while I cried hysterically
- the_snitch, on 10/12/2007, -4/+17Im glad im not in the US as the RIAA can't touch me. Not that im doing anything illegal, it just creeps me out how insensitive and illogical their attacks are
- fortezza, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11Don't feel too safe, they have instigated International raids on people serving mp3's. Hungary is one of the countries they hit.
- PacketScan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11Riaa = 100m
Artist = 0
Hmmm......... - tonicboy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10@koshak
Adapting my ass. Give me one good example of how they are adapting. They were dragged onto iTunes by Steve Jobs, kicking and screaming. And even then, they are trying to sabotage the success of iTunes by jacking up the prices more. All the other music services, where they have more influence, they have managed to restict the DRM to the point of absurdity. Oh yeah, Sony's rootkit fiasco is a PERFECT example of how they are adapting - by attacking their paying customers! - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12thats disgusting.
i feel bad for all the 18,337 people - pyrix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9That sounds like it might be a fascinating story if you could string two coherent sentences together and somehow relate it to the RIAA suing people.
- peanutbutter13, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9I'm guessing the artists have gotten 0 dollars from the riaa! I'm sure they're going to use the $100m to pay for more lawyers to sue more deceased grandmas or people without a computer- http://www.digg.com/technology/RIAA_Sues_Woman_Who_Has_No_Computer_For_Sharing_Music
- knightblade2oo4, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12it makes me feel like a man ;_;
- Graphixaddict, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10heh....its ok. were american, we just expect other people to fight our battles now, we will continue to let corporations run over us until we actually lose the ability and power to fight back....
- gregpalmer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8I'm curious how much they actually collected. That's ~$5500 per user, which is a tough settlement amount to pay for most regular folks. Many have surely defaulted on the judgment.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8koshak name an artist that makes less than $50,000 and I will show you an empty torrent search page.
If that artist starts to make better music *and gets heard* then people might decide they like him and will buy his music. Do you think an artist will become famous without being heard? Do you buy random CDs of artists you've never heard of just to see if they have one good track... No
Whether it is piracy or simply putting your own music in the public spotlight through P2P or otherwise you will be heard! If you make a CD with some label that rips you off it's your own fault if you starve. Don't sign with the devil. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Dude, WTF... seriously I feel dumber now after trying to comprehend your damned string of words (which I refuse to call a sentence)
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11An eight turned sideways is the symbol for infinity. Could 18,337 mean infinite leetness? Also note that it was on this day in 1932 Professor C.G. King isolated vitamin C. Elektra recording artist Vitamin C's track "I Know What Boys Like" was among the songs alleged to have been pirated by RIAA lawsuit victims.
Coincidence? I think not...
RIAA Subpoenas - Complete List (2003):
http://www.slyck.com/news.php?story=215 - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Well their existing business model is fuX0red, so maybe they're trying something new.
One day there won't be any new records, just new record lawsuits. - mmastrac, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7best... comment... ever
- Saiyaman156, on 10/12/2007, -7/+14If you remove the 8, it become 1337. Coincidence, I think not...
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+14Hey, *****. Kevin has already said that the WORST thing that could happen to digg is if 10 year old ***** like you try to use digg to further a mob mentality.
GRow the ***** up. - Madnesswithin, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10I am shocked that the RIAA still doesn't understand that it seriously needs to adapt to the new methods that users want to use to acquire files.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Profits? Do they mean revenues? I would think that lawyers are pocketing a good share of it.
How times have changed. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6"koshak name an artist that makes less than $50,000 and I will show you an empty torrent search page. "
Exactly. Most of the music I like is from artists who are self labeled (like Anders Manga) or part of small labels (Storm Large and the Balls) and are not represented by the RIAA. In fact, you probably couldn't even find their music online being pirated. I'm sure a lot of that comes from loyalty. I rip all the music I get, but I wouldn't share their music online. I'll let people listen to it and then tell them where to go to buy the CD directly.
So when the RIAA fights "piracy", they're usually doing so for their big names. They can't afford to go to bat for some guy who put out 10,000 albums in the last year and barely breaks even -- even if he's an artist from an RIAA-member label.
Further, KOSHAK *completely* missed my point. I wasn't taking sides as to whether or not artists deserve compensation or not. I was simply responding to the "oh my god, these poor artists!" aspect of it. The artists that you've heard the RIAA getting frothy over have been people like Brittney Spears and Metallica. Those 18,000 people aren't taking food out of the mouths of James Hetfield and Lars Ulrich. They might be taking a few payments out of their next mansion or hummer with 22" rims -- but it is certainly not like taking food out of the mouths of their family, like stealing oranges from a street vendor may be. - mistshadow2k4, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7"You DO realize that for every Nelly making millions, there are HUNDREDS of artists who are making less than $50,000 a year, don't you? Literally hundreds."
So what? Millions of people work a lot harder than of them and yet manage to survive on less than $50,000 a year. Exactly why should "artists" be entitled to make so much money? We are supporting them, not the other way around. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5"You DO realize that for every Nelly making millions, there are HUNDREDS of artists who are making less than $50,000 a year, don't you? Literally hundreds."
Do you honestly think those are the artists the RIAA are fighting on behalf of? When was the last time you heard of someone being drawn and quartered by the RIAA over a small label artist or someone underground? Do you think they're going after people downloading KMFDM on behalf of WAXTRAX? Or do you think that they're going after people pirating Nelly and Brittney Spears?
Not every artist is part of a big label. Not every label is part of the RIAA. Hell, do you even think that royalties collected by the RIAA for, say, playing music in an elevator at Macy's is really trickling down to each and every artist who's music is actually being used there? Hardly.
And it's not so much that I'm short sighted as you're just kind of pissy when people don't sugar coat things and they give it the way they see it. Deal. - fortezza, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Because the big d*cks in the industry want them to stay.
- DiabloRojo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Every 'net user in the US should e-mail an MP3 ripped from a legitimately purchased CD or legally downloaded from iTunes to anyone, then write the RIAA explaining that they distributed music.
The RIAA will undoubtably try to sue every single person, thereby clogging up the Civil legal system for centuries to come. - MalDON, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Isn't the RIAA supposed to help the artists and the studios regain money lost by piracy? I think the studios should say screw the RIAA. or at least revise the contracts.
- nrbelex, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4This doesn't take into account their own legal fees though either which I'm sure are quite substantial given how much needless krap they put people through.
- knightblade2oo4, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5they only make an average of about $5,800 per lawsuit... I thought it seemed like more.
- burritoKing, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4~jrbrewin
>Simply because you don't see ripping cd's or downloading full albums as being theft
I wish people would stop calling it theft. This is a common piece of mis-information. Copyright infringement is NOT THEFT.
If I have a bit of paper and you have a bit of paper and I take yours from you. Then I have deprived you of it, and that is theft. If however, I get a copy of it, I have not deprived you of it, and it is therefore not theft. Now wether I was right to take a copy of it is another matter.
George - xbmcrules, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5i like the riaa
its bad to steal music that is what I am told...
TPB RULES - abbott75, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Sounds sorta like a RIAA label song... Well... it has random, meaningless words... so its sorta the same...
- drawkbox, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7100 million from strong arming with lawyer blitzkreig, they are never gonna stop now. Now that America's have been pussified by terrorism noone will stand up to anything.
- DoubtfulSalmon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4> RIAA Subpoenas - Complete List (2003):
What good is that list if there's no links to download the songs from? - medulla, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4"Dont copy that floppy"... and we never did again...
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Daddy, what's a "floppy disk"?
- ArchAngel21x, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4100 million just by suing? Damn. I am in the wrong line of work. Nice way of making up for lost record sales.
- CrackHappy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4@koshak and @tonicboy
I agree that they are making feeble attempts to adapt.
I also disagree that they should bow their heads in shame and take the consumer beating they are taking. They are certainly entitled to any profit they choose to set as their price. However, that does NOT mean that we need to pay their price nor does the fact that we don't want to pay their price make it OK to steal what they rightfully own.
Instead we need to acquire the content that we want at the price we want to set the market price for the content we want. That's the only "legal" way to succeed in this fight. I have stopped pirating music and instead have started searching for artists whose music I believe in enough to pay for at prices I believe are both market supportable and fair. - sirplus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3this comment is absolutely ***** surreal. it is far more entertaining than this thread.
- OperatorNo9, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@jrbrewin
You make it sound like the RIAA is an artist's union like SAG or something. The truth is that the RIAA is not an organization of artists but rather one of record companies. OK, I'm being pedantic you say; it's the record companies themselves who are looking out for the artists who "pay" them. Wrong again. The record companies aren't like marketing firms you hire to get the word out about your music. Nor are they like managers that you hire to keep the books and protect your interests. The reality is that they buy artists and trap them in a life of indentured servitude.
One reason music costs so much money is that the members of the RIAA aren't good at picking artists with talent. So they end up buying a lot of crap to shove down our throats on the latest fresh episode of the OC. Another reason, secretaries with secretaries.
They were once a necessary evil for artists as there was no alternate method of recording and distributing music. But now that there is, the RIAA is terrified. They can't control it and extort both artists and consumers in the same old ways. They were perfectly happy before all of this power to the people digital life stuff came around. They don't want change. And God forbid their secretaries' secretaries might have to find other jobs. - jonnyeh, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Their days are numbered, when a band like Arctic Monkeys can sell 300,000+ copies of their debut album in England, in only its first week, with an indie label.
- Drahknon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I hate the RIAA, and it's been said above, but really... how can these be fairly called "profits?" Retained lawyers are really fricking expensive.
- StoneWolf, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4koshak - I hardly call monthly subscription music sites and malware DRM to be "adapting" to what people want.
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