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- Beautyon, on 10/12/2007, -10/+65There is tool to help you do this: http://www.magnetbox.com/riaa/ you can search for labels, artists and realeases, and then make your informed decision instantly.
- ostermei, on 10/12/2007, -8/+37You can use your internet-capable cell phone to go to www.magnetbox.com/riaa/mobile and enter the UPC number from the CD and it'll tell you if it's safe or not. Even if you don't have a data package on your phone (I don't), you can still most likely use pay-per-kb service. I use this all the time (the small amount I pay for the quick log-on and check is worth it, in my opinion, to avoid the RIAA taint).
- RobbieCrash, on 10/12/2007, -5/+29If you support the RIAA, you're supporting an industry that believes DRM is the only way to go, and that believes that suing their customers is a good idea.
- mrASSMAN, on 10/12/2007, -8/+32ok i have something else to say. half the comments on this page were buried due to someone disagreeing with the person who made the comment. i had to go through and unbury the tons of completely reasonable comments. this is ridiculous, dont bury a comment before thinking: is this actually a ***** comment, or do i just disagree with its contents? grow up people.
- fargo, on 10/12/2007, -7/+20If you aren't happy with industry practices, it would be more effective to write your local congressperson.
.F - NicP, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13I'd prefer to steal music than purchase RIAA music, most of the money doesn't end up in the artists hands anyway. (Lucky for me i listen to electronic music on non RIAA labels) Support your favorite bands by going to concerts and buying merchandise not buy buying RIAA Cd's.
- chmod, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12Remember people, there are completely legal ways of buying music that will guarantee the RIAA stays out of your business. I buy 100% of my Cd's used. The vast majority come from pawn shops (on occasion I will also find something on ebay). Look for 'em in your area, they are providing a great service to people like us. Not only does the RIAA not receive any money for the transaction, I almost never pay above $1.00 per CD, and will sometimes find 20 or 25 Cd's I want in a single trip--all with the benefit of knowing exactly where my money is going.
- tmcleroy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14my favorite record company is called Bittorrent
- Beautyon, on 10/12/2007, -8/+19You check out what you want to buy before you go to the store. When you are engaging in a serious boycott, you are CAREFULL about what you buy, and understand that you cannot make spur of the moment decisions.
- jschrab, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10A non-Internet store where you buy music... I'm not sure what you mean.
- Arramol, on 10/12/2007, -6/+15I actually tried contacting my Senators. One ignored me, the other sent me a generic response about the importance of protecting the media industry. At least I know who not to vote for now.
- CptnObvious, on 10/12/2007, -7/+16http://mycroft.mozdev.org/download.html?name=RIAA&submitform=Search
^ RIAA Radar quick search for firefox - Pogue_Mahone, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Ah, consumer laziness. The aspect of the market that brings complete and utter joy to abusive near-monopolies.
- tominator1983, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Ok I'm answering my own question:
http://www.boycott-riaa.com/
Apparently you can make donations to people who are fighting the RIAA right now. Cool. - AussieVamp2, on 10/12/2007, -12/+19Not in my Australia, it isn't.
- clickmyface, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10Dear RIAA,
I know you're out there. I can feel you now. I know that you're afraid... afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell how it's going to begin. I'm going to hang up this phone, and then show these people what you don't want them to see. I'm going to show them a world without you. A world without rules or controls, borders or boundaries. A world where anything is possible. Where we go from there is a choice I leave to you. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7nicp, You hit it right on the money. I completely agree with this thread as well, Id rather steal music than buy RIAA supported music, go to the concerts and pay the artists directly, not some faceless corporation bending over their entire roster and shafting them out of a fair cut of what alot of these talented artists truly deserve
- macgabriel87, on 10/12/2007, -6/+13boy a lot of people buried this comment along with the replies. that sucks. this digg commenting system kinda sucks. i want to filter out crap, but i do want to see what they say. its just hard to. i bet you all will bury this comment... kevin, you should've given this more thought and time
- Gepetto, on 10/12/2007, -14/+20Dugg, but after seeing this list, it's almost impossible, and improbable, to avoid the RIAA completly. Apparently, though not suprisingly, most independant labels are distributed through them. A total boycott then would probably hurt them a lot more than it would hurt the larger labels and artists. I think I'll just stick with listening to what I like.
- cduquette, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7That doesn't seem 100% accurate. For example I always thought Fat Wreck Chords was an independent label, but the RIAA lists them on their site, and RIAA radar say their albums are safe.
EDIT: I know this may come as a shock to you, but the RIAA is often wrong. Please check the "Disputed Claims Department" sidebar on our help page. It mentions several labels that alot of people ask about (and have conflicting information on), and also notes several labels that are incorrectly listed in the official RIAA membership list. (http://www.magnetbox.com/riaa/submit.asp) - carpespasm, on 10/12/2007, -6/+12yeah, i remember reading about how they were adding members to this list without consent, to make their membership seem larger. some indie bands which didn't want to be associated with them actually filed complaints telling them to take their names off.
so there's no way to tell who actually is a supporting member of the RIAA and who's not. at least for the smaller names on there. Disney records, sony, tower, and the other larger labels are still major contributors - penguinix, on 10/12/2007, -7/+12Yeah there are tons of indie labels who release good bands. For instance there is subpop who has the early modest mouse records as well as wolf parade, postal service and the shins as well as many many others. Really only the big bands that you see on places like MTV are in the RIAA.
- toveling, on 10/12/2007, -8/+13The list the RIAA gives out is awful. A small number of the entities on there are simply bands, some are completely non-RIAA labels, and other anomalies. If you're interested in being active in the fight against the riaa (other than the radar mentioned above), you can try http://downhillbattle.org/ (though it seems to be down atm...).
- 5blocksfree, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5You're not doing you OR you favorite artist any favors here. They're allowed to continue their crack-habit-of-a-relationship the RIAA, and the RIAA is allowed to continue screwing consumers. Money is the universal language that will allow consumers to make their point loud and clear. How you choose to spend it says a mouthful.
- afrazkhan, on 10/12/2007, -8/+13That's a fair point, but it seems to go against what you were saying earlier about "real music". If the behavior of the RIAA is a symptom of a diseased system as you say, then boycotting that system would seem like a reasonable thing to do.
I've never "stolen" any music from an independent artists (self distributing), or an artists signed to an independent label - not that copyright violation equals theft anyway - and there's a reason for that. I'm trying to promote a new system which doesn't need corporations like the RIAA, and therefore boycott RIAA music.
Really, there's a _great deal_ of good music out there. Go to your local clubs and see unsigned bands. The music you'll find is indeed _very_ "real", I would say more so that the majority of signed bands.
P.S. 7of7, marking my post down because it goes against what your post says is a little childish. Apologies if it wasn't you though. - sophiaperennis, on 10/12/2007, -6/+11The RIAA's website, in the Issues section, states that: "Technology initiatives of record companies and policy initiatives coordinated by the RIAA are working toward a seamless, interconnected world for music fans."
Technology initiatives? Since when is shutting down online technology initiatives an initiative in itself ? - t0ny, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9But they want to. And they will try. HIDE GRANDMA!
- RobbieCrash, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8That's wrong. In the last year I've bought probably 100 cds and records, and not one penny of my money has gone to the RIAA.
Additionally, at the concerts of bands that are on RIAA labels that I've attended, I've purchased merch, that isn't giving the RIAA money so I'm still supporting the bands that I like that are unfortunately part of that sect of music.
Not supporting them is rather easy. - worthlessliar, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Interesting.
Perhaps a suit (class action) ala "loss of revenue due to wrongful RIAA association" could cause RIAA to not include all labels by default?
*****.
there time is gonna come - sardiax, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8as I recall there was a debate about this awhile back because the RIAA lists just about every record label they can find as a supporter on their website, regardless of whether they are actually a part of the RIAA.
- t0ny, on 10/12/2007, -8/+12About "www.magnetbox.com/riaa/mobile" I just had a very cool idea. Hook up my barcode scanner to a cell phone. Or write a java app to decode a barcode then look it up.
Too bad I'm lazy. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8Wouldnt it be easier to give a list of labels that are NOT associated with the RIAA?
- laughterkillsme, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7most the stuff on that list falls underneath maybe 5 or 6 labels ... thing is many corporations own many smaller labels to make their 'fake indie bands" seem legit etc. (And by fake I man stuff like sum 41)
- afrazkhan, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8Fair enough. I understand what you mean about those elitists, but I wouldn't describe many of my friends as falling into that category, and we all at least have _some_ independent bands that we like.
Though I'm surprised you couldn't find what you were looking for, even on the Internet? Have you tried www.magnatune.com? They have a reasonably good selection. - chrism1128, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I just choose to illegally download all of the music to screw the RIAA.
- MonkeyOverlord, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3All metalheads should check out Century Media. They're not on the list and they have some damn good bands like Lacuna Coil and Nightwish.
- geminitojanus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4"Perhaps a suit (class action) ala "loss of revenue due to wrongful RIAA association" could cause RIAA to not include all labels by default?"
That's an invalid class. Classification for Class Action Lawsuits is a art more than it is a science; Microsoft and (insert name of car manufacturer here; pretty much _all_ of them have done it) have slipped through the cracks on a bunch of class action lawsuits simply by getting the class of people thrown out. It'd be much better to ask your criminal prosecutor of choice to indict the RIAA with fraud for misrepresenting the companies that are actually members of their oligopoly. If he actually would have the balls to do it, the RIAA would quickly inventory its members and that list would be up to date tomorrow, and they'd settle out of court by throwing a few dollars around (I think the maximum penalty for this kind of fraud anyways is only in the thousands of dollars). - addisonj, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7If you want a good place to find and listen to RIAA free music, head to indietorrents.com good luck getting an invite though....
- unitedkronos, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Looking at the list, if I was to stick to it I wouldn't be able to buy anything from Slipknot (Roadrunner), CKY (Island Records), Gorillaz (EMI) or anything else by 99% of my fave artists/bands.
- Pogue_Mahone, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I don't find it hard at all to avoid funding the RIAA. And not by stealing - but just by buying music they don't have their fingers in.
The thing I keep in mind is that there is NO music out there that is so good that I HAVE to have it. - knightblade2oo4, on 10/12/2007, -7/+10just download your music.
they can't sue us all! - bluefire0728, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8Glad to see that Saddle Creek, Sub Pop, and Barsuk, among other labels, aren't on that list.
- briguy, on 10/12/2007, -12/+15Careful with shotgun boycotts like this - Nettwerk is on there and they're footing the legal bills for some of those sued by the RIAA.
- Genthree, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8This is a chance to both boycott RIAA and branch out in your musical tastes. Two birds with one stone, huzzah.
- osbjmg, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Yea, I guess if all you listen to is Britney Spears and Puff Daddy (insert any MTV "artist" here) ;)
- jeebwise, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I have been boycotting for 5 year now. And I am not being choosy. ***** them all.
- tokyopimp, on 10/12/2007, -18/+21Dumb... I'm not going to not buy an album of an artist I love, because there label is with the RIAA.
It's just not going to happen. - Namco, on 10/12/2007, -6/+9Dammit, Nothing Records is on there.... Sorry Trent, gotta bail on ya.
- ed.2112, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Ipecac records for life!
- afrazkhan, on 10/12/2007, -9/+12So the band I saw tonight (The Pimpets) don't play real music? Interesting.
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