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AllOfMP3 Shut Down by Russian Government For Good
torrentfreak.com — AllOfMp3, the popular online music store, has been shut down by the Russian government. Pressure from the United States, and a refusal to enter the World Trade Organisation (WTO) convinced the Kremlin to take the website down for good.
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- AcePup, on 10/11/2007, -13/+36Rest of the article:
Before the shutdown AllOfMP3 had approximately 5 million users who were able to download songs and albums for a fraction of the price from authorized alternatives such as the iTunes Store. MP3s were sold for $0.20 per song, or less. AllOfMP3 has been a thorn in the side of the RIAA and the US government for years. But, it seems like president Putin has some good news to tell Bush today, a mere coincidence of course. It is not clear how effective the shutdown of AllOfMP3 will be. Most users will probably move to MP3sparks, a similar service with a similar setup, launched by the same company. The site is not illegal under Russian law. Last December the Danish ISP “Perspectiv” decided to block access to AllOfMP3 for all their users. In a response, The Pirate Bay, working together with the pro-piracy lobby Piratbyrån, decided to block all Perspektiv’s customers from accessing its site. Not long after that “Perspectiv” reconsidered their position, and their customers were allowed to access the online music store again. My gut feeling says that these “grey market” MP3 sites are just another Hydra.- MrDo, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5I believe it was a Swedish ISP. Most / all Danish ISPs has infact blocked allofmp3.com in their DNS servers(which should give the average Digger a clue how to get around that).
- brundlefly76, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9Actually, your AllOfMP3.com account is *ON* mp3sparks.com - your login name, password, balance - all work there!
(at least mine did) - EztliNahua, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Oh no, AllOfMP3.COM has been shut down! Good thing there is AllOfMP3.RU... they complied with the US' wish to the letter...
- pennyfan87, on 10/11/2007, -19/+235It's a sad day when the American government can shutdown legal companies in other countries.
RIP ALLofMP3.- jstohler, on 10/11/2007, -44/+13I loved AllofMP3, but they were never legal, even under Russian laws.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AllOfMP3.com- RoroCo, on 10/11/2007, -6/+33Sorry dude, but I have to bury any one that uses Wikipedia as a credible source for international law.
- sexybobo, on 10/11/2007, -0/+19for once i agree with some one not trusting wikipedia. allofmp3 was in a gray area about it being legal or not. it will be up for the courts to decided not wikipedia.
- jstohler, on 10/11/2007, -9/+3So you'll never trust Wikipedia again? Or only when you don't like its results?
- Sprules04, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5You should never trust Wikipedia on anything really. It's a great place to go and quickly inform yourself about whatever you want but trusting it as a reliable source is a no no.
- heliox, on 10/11/2007, -14/+28RTFA - It broke Russian law too.
- raitchison, on 10/11/2007, -1/+44It didn't until the US pressured the Russian government to change the law.
- Cwo655321, on 10/11/2007, -17/+1thats what your mom said.
- RussellDovey, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4At least those are only the days that end in a Y.
- celkin, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0In Soviet Russia, law breaks you!
- raitchison, on 10/11/2007, -1/+44It didn't until the US pressured the Russian government to change the law.
- damentz, on 10/11/2007, -22/+2THAT IS VERY SAD PENNYFAN87.
I'M GOING TO PLAY VIDEO GAMES TO DROWN MY SADNESS FOR YOU. - ddxChrist, on 10/11/2007, -4/+5Indeed. I reside in the US and I certainly wouldn't want a foreign country forcing a domestic company/website to shutdown. Granted, I bet there are certainly similar influences regarding energy companies but those generally wouldn't be in the public eye due to the nature of the goods.
- actorboy, on 10/11/2007, -6/+3They didn't force ***** on Russia. Russia did it because they want to be a part of the WTO. Here are a few more random letters to go with that: RTFA.
- jstohler, on 10/11/2007, -44/+13I loved AllofMP3, but they were never legal, even under Russian laws.
- shyguy, on 10/11/2007, -2/+20Just use their alltunes program, gives you access to the music collection and your balance if you had any remaining. Refilling balance is still an issue though.
- fuzzmello, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4just keep trying. it lets you through every now and then.
- themoose, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Refill alltunes balance:
http://alltunes.com/login.shtml?tourl=%2fpayment%2frefill.shtml%3f
(FTA): Alternative AllOfMP3 owned by the same company:
http://www.mp3sparks.com/
- joe361, on 10/11/2007, -2/+58AllofMP3.com usernames and passwords work with their new site, and balances are transfered as well.
- TopDog, on 10/11/2007, -1/+11I tried my login/password but it doesn't work. If I use the "forgot password" link it does send my login name and password to my email account but when I use those details it doesn't work!
- Mehster, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5IIRC, you need to log in to allofmp3.com and hit the transfer account button on your account detail page. That's how I got mine transferred over. I certainly hope the late comers aren't just out of luck!
- senatorpjt, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3I just tried the new site, it worked automatically.
- dextermanas, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0Not working for me :(
Does anyone know of any service similar to AllOfMP3? I don't mind paying higher or as much as iTunes, but what I want is the ability to download in any format I choose, including lossless.
- Mehster, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5IIRC, you need to log in to allofmp3.com and hit the transfer account button on your account detail page. That's how I got mine transferred over. I certainly hope the late comers aren't just out of luck!
- HunterTV, on 10/11/2007, -9/+1Yeah, piss off ya bloody wankers!
Wait... - crunchyeyeball, on 10/11/2007, -7/+10OK, here's what I just heard in my head:
1. Create clone of allofmp3.com
2. Tell Digg users their allofmp3.com usernames & passwords are valid
3. Wait for hundreds of naive Digg users to sign into your site with their usernames & passwords
4. Use harvested usernames & passwords to empty user accounts
5. Profit!!!
OK, maybe I'm paranoid, but sometimes it pays to be paranoid. I'd appreciate an official announcement of some sort before I hand over my credit card details.- avihappy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9If you are paranoid, just use the Forgot Password form, and it will email your login to you. They are legit!
- scratched, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3My login info from AllOfMp3 worked on their new site with no problem and it transferred my balance and account info over too.
And to make it more secure, I had to go to Visa's authentication website when refilling my balance to approve the transaction.
You're just being overly paranoid. If you're waiting for a official announcement from AllOfMp3 you're wasting your time since it already officially works.- terrya64, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1mp3 sparks isn't new! I learned about it on allofmp3.com a few months ago. They were advertising their new beta site.There was no transferring of information needed, everything allofmp3 had mp3sparks already had. User names passwords, balances, downloads, ect....
- TopDog, on 10/11/2007, -1/+11I tried my login/password but it doesn't work. If I use the "forgot password" link it does send my login name and password to my email account but when I use those details it doesn't work!
- eksai, on 10/11/2007, -11/+5they shouldl join the pirate bay guys
- Azimuth1, on 10/11/2007, -42/+16***** you, America.
- heliox, on 10/11/2007, -6/+25***** you UK!!
Happy fourth of July too! - 2000, on 10/11/2007, -4/+5Hey, ***** you buddy!
- actorboy, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7Azimuth1, you were already ***** us by purchasing our creative content on the black market, so ***** you too.
- Azimuth1, on 10/11/2007, -6/+4I don't purchase it, I download it.
- Elranzer, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2"Azimuth1, you were already ***** us by purchasing our creative content on the black market, so ***** you too."
Wait... how is that any different than using AllOfMP3??
- heliox, on 10/11/2007, -6/+25***** you UK!!
- heliox, on 10/11/2007, -14/+5.
- InSectWar, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8thats not such a good point is it
- RobSaint, on 10/11/2007, -0/+38Well like it says, there's always http://www.mp3sparks.com/ instead. Looks pretty good. ;o)
- MScrip, on 10/11/2007, -7/+2Wow... it looks just like the old AllofMP3
Copycats FTW. This will never end!- SPECOPS, on 10/11/2007, -0/+15They aren't "copycats" they ARE the same as ALLOFMP3, they have the user base and passwords and balances of all the prior accounts.
- Mehster, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2I'm too scared to fill up my balance on mp3sparks because there is a SSL cert warning when you hit their credit card page. At least the old site was properly signed :(
- frimple, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2I dugg you down because you made me double check that they are still not letting you refill your balance using a credit card.
- terrya64, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Yes they do, I refilled mine just a few weeks ago.
- scratched, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1I'm using Firefox and I had no SSL cert warning. I call FUD!!
- frimple, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2I dugg you down because you made me double check that they are still not letting you refill your balance using a credit card.
- AeroSquid, on 10/11/2007, -4/+2you would have to be pretty stupid to give a russian site your credit card info.
- terrya64, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3no, you would have to be pretty stupid to think just because it's Russian that they are theives.
- gamerzworld, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1You guys are idiots. MP3Sparks is made and ran by the same people that made Allofmp3! -_-
- MScrip, on 10/11/2007, -7/+2Wow... it looks just like the old AllofMP3
- EllisAshbrook, on 10/11/2007, -22/+12***** that website. steal from big companies if you must, but find a way to support the artists. And, why encourage a 3rd party to profit for doing absolutely nothing but theft?
- rigg419, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4artists (especially new artists make very little from record sales. they only make any real $ by touring.
- fkr3, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4They make more from record sales with a major label behind them then they would by themselves. And that's why they want major labels behind them - *****% of heaps is a lot more than 100% of not much.
- rigg419, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4artists (especially new artists make very little from record sales. they only make any real $ by touring.
- FibrillarorD, on 10/11/2007, -7/+11Just the latest example of how perennially-unfair and intrusive the US-pushed WTO intellectual property laws are.
- heliox, on 10/11/2007, -5/+10RTFA - It broke Russian law too.
- neiltc13, on 10/11/2007, -4/+3That's for the Russian Government to decide and no one else.
- fkr3, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9The Russian Government did decide, and the site no longer exists.
- neiltc13, on 10/11/2007, -4/+3That's for the Russian Government to decide and no one else.
- EllisAshbrook, on 10/11/2007, -3/+11Please, enlighten us. How is it unfair? SHARING is one thing (i'm all for it) but PROFITEERING is wrong.
- RussellDovey, on 10/11/2007, -4/+2Yes, and companies like Disney are profiteering when they extend copyright periods to over a century.
- sephiroth965, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2AllofMP3 gave NO money back to the artists. NONE.
- heliox, on 10/11/2007, -5/+10RTFA - It broke Russian law too.
- rabidjade, on 10/11/2007, -11/+1Piracy doesn't pay afterall.
- 0owh0r5xzs, on 10/11/2007, -0/+13Tell that to the millions of people who have never paid for a piece of software in their life.
- over9, on 10/11/2007, -21/+29It's not terrorism when Americans do it.
- actorboy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+17It's not terrorism, period, brainiac. It's international trade relations.
- geniusj, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Wow. That reflects nicely on the majority of the digg community. How does a comment that's so obviously over the top and false end up +9? Terrorism? Have you guys lost your minds?
- beatphats, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1...because the majority of the digg community can detect cynicism in a comment.
- le0pard, on 10/11/2007, -1/+59Aww, then this infamous video will forever go down in history:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8446227607668289685
(fyi: its the danish guy downloading from allofmp3.com with a little something "extra" in his firefox download manager)- 35chililights, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1apparently the editing of news is slightly more relaxed abroad. (awesome, i hadn't seen that.)
- Neem, on 10/11/2007, -4/+1RIP allofmp3, Long Live firefox
- osidenate, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1atleast he's using vlc
- pivovy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1yea, to play music...
- spiri, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Afterwards it has been said, in the geek community, that he did it on purpose (put the teen-thing in his dl manager). To have a little fun :)
- iburyfamilyguy, on 10/11/2007, -4/+1Another one bites the dust.
- EllisAshbrook, on 10/11/2007, -10/+9Profiteers get shut down, big surprise. Please, anyone, make a case for supporting those pirates. Why do it when you could just as easily get the content for free? Or better yet, go buy it from your local mom and pop brick-and-mortar store and support people who give a ***** about the product they sell.
- actorboy, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6Because, in their head, they thought it was somehow legal.
- BlackCat, on 10/11/2007, -6/+2Must be what Bush and Putin were talking about in Maine this weekend.
- Bossman1086, on 10/11/2007, -1/+11I love it. Mp3Sparks.com is by the same company, but isn't illegal in Russia because of the different licensing model they use.
- gwinerreniwg, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2From MP3Sparks's site:
"The availability over the Internet of the Mp3Sparks.com materials is authorized by the license # LS-3М-05-03 of the Russian Multimedia and Internet Society (ROMS) and license # 006/3M-05 of the Rightholders Federation for Collective Copyright Management of Works Used Interactively (FAIR). Under the licenses' terms, Regiontorg pays license fees for all materials downloaded from the site subject to the Law of the Russian Federation "On Copyright and Related Rights". All these materials are solely for personal use. Any further distribution, resale or broadcasting are prohibited."
This reads the same to me as AOM's license, so what's different? They also claimed to be paying royalties through ROMS.
- gwinerreniwg, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2From MP3Sparks's site:
- portableteejay, on 10/11/2007, -0/+10Alltunes is still working though. My account info is still there and my balance is still there. Whats the problem?
- ShinRaTDR, on 10/11/2007, -9/+60Oh dear, now where will i get my music?
Oh wait...
www.alloffmp3.com (yes i did mean to type "all off")
www.gomusic.ru
Don't feel like paying? I can do that too.
www.rslinks.com
www.google.com (search whatever your looking for in quotes and add rapidshare to the end. You'll find it)
Like torrents?
www.isohunt.com
www.torrentspy.com
www.thepiratebay.org
Prefer P2P?
Limewire
Kazza
This is MY free market.- steven401, on 10/11/2007, -0/+14I think you meant www.rslinks.org .
- InSectWar, on 10/11/2007, -3/+3Cheers buddy this is exactly what i think whenever i see stuff like this. Or ones like "DRM free music now on Itunes!!!"
Just don't matter to me :) - cassmith, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Sheesh, cough up ten bucks for Rhapsody/Yahoo/Napster or whatever and scrub the gobs and gobs of music you download. If you download enough its even cheaper than allofmp3
- RussellDovey, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9Yarr! It be the principle of the thing, me matey! A true pirate knows that paying any amount for yer booty makes you a weak, lily-livered sea-fairy!
- senatorpjt, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Then I'd only be able to listen to music while I'm sitting in front of my computer.
- dontlookdown, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Don't those sites have DRM though?
- jeriqo, on 10/11/2007, -6/+5You only are a stealer.
- AnnaBay21, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0torrents present the most possible free sh*t ever! I love torrents!
- Light11, on 10/11/2007, -4/+3time to move to amsterdam
- zadadka, on 10/11/2007, -6/+3A bit like English Cricket, its always a shame to see an underdog and stalwart go down.
- fishcough, on 10/11/2007, -1/+15Naw, it's not dead. Just go to mp3sparks.com, and if you had an AllOfMP3 account, log in there under the same ID/password and your balance and download history are right there. Same company, same database - same site, basically, just with a different skin and URL.
- clickwir, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Not quite. My logins don't work.
- PolkinhajIsGod, on 10/11/2007, -7/+11Whether Allofmp3 was legal or not, artists with music on there definitely did not receive compensation for their work, so users were in essence, downloading illegally and, and paying someone to let them do it. While the U.S. ability to shut it down is another story, I am glad that it's gone.
- clickwir, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2really? Cause you know exactly how all the backend transactions work and you have records proving that they are not getting paid? No? Didn't think so.
- Jugalator, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1They were at least supposed to receive compensation if they registered with ROMS, but RIAA didn't want to, so no money for the artists either.
Are you sure that is correct info? - thewump, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I think you are incorrect. They DID get paid - just based on Russian copyrighting requirements.. which allow much lower payouts.
The issues with these sites is less about whether they are legal in Russia, it's whether or not they should permit the illegal export of mp3s to outside of Russia
- sadilak, on 10/11/2007, -7/+2Someone mentioned that using allofmp3 denies artists of their money!!. what crap is that. Most of the artists are created by corporates!. They are already paid. I dont see any reason why a song should cost more than 4 cents. I truly dont care as to whether these fake artists make money or burn in hell. Ultimately, the system will fail and music companies are gonna shut down shop.
- actorboy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4You are clearly living a in a fantasy land.
On a side note, if these artists are such crap, what does it say about you that absolutely have to fill your computer with such pablum?
- actorboy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4You are clearly living a in a fantasy land.
- TommyBoy919, on 10/11/2007, -4/+3Eh, iTunes made it easy to actually buy music cheaply, so whatever. The randomness of the audio quality on the P2P services makes it too much of a hassle. I guess I'm just lazy. I still do use BitTorrent and LimeWire, but only if a song I want isn't on iTunes or if its a song from some crappy soundtrack where they won't sell individual tunes (because they want you to buy the album's 12 terrible tracks to get the 1 or 2 you actually like.)
- M2Ys4U, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2There's no DRM on the P2P tracks...
- radio1mike, on 10/11/2007, -3/+13Allofmp3.com, in my opinion, had the only viable payment/licensing option in 'retail'. The RIAA and companies (especially Sony) are always looking to (obviously) increase their revenue streams. But how do you do this when no one values the products as highly as you do? Why, license it so you need multiple copies of the tracks to play on your different machines. Have a stereo, portable mp3 player, CD Car player and a computer? Why, that'll be 4X the fees, please?
This adversely and inversely affects their product.
Allofmp3.com worked out well, because you actually paid for the data you downloaded. An average album at 128-bit encode would cost around $1.50 and a 256-bit encode would cost around $3.00. The most reasonable fees... I mean, really, don't most survey we ever see about how much the general public thinks or would pay for digital music is about 15 or 25 cents per track, anyways.- fkr3, on 10/11/2007, -4/+6I'm sure Sony realises they would sell more of everything if they dropped the price by 80%. But the cost of production kind of stops them. Music and films have costs too you know, distribution is far from the only cost of an album.
- manicallday, on 10/11/2007, -1/+11I wish I had a sudo government agency that would provide price protection for my business. That would be great. That way I could just produce a sub par product, backed by an out-of-date business model and still collect billions of dollars. I would just sit back, smoke a cigar, and count all of my profits, while at the same time complain about how I'm not making money anymore because my customers are thieves.
I still feel that the end of the RIAA would be the best thing to happen to music. Then people like myself, who feel that file sharing is actually good have an opportunity to introduce better business models. I really think I could provide a more profitable product at a cheaper production cost without charging for the music.- YourTechSupport, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3I wish I had a SUDO government agency.
I'd roll on over to Iran in my SUV, talk to those OPEC assholes.
"Give us your oil!"
"Nevar!"
"SUDO Give us your oil!"
"Regular or Unleaded, oh benevolent oppressor or truth and democracy!" - rocket777, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Remember when they used the public airwaves to promote their products, and even got paid for it? And what happened to the constitution's "limited time" clause on copyright protection. Disney made his name on using public domain stories. Nothing in the last 80 years has made it into the public domain from Disney.
Music is the same. They are granted monopoly by government guns. No different than asking their godfather to protect them with an offer that can't be refused.
- YourTechSupport, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3I wish I had a SUDO government agency.
- BannaEast, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2boo & hiss
- reed311, on 10/11/2007, -5/+4Well, I know this is an unpopular opinion but I'm glad it shut down. Why? Well, this site really hurt the songwriters (not the millionaire artists) by not paying them proper royalties. Songwriters don't make as much money as you would like to think and every loss counts. I understand many people are frustrated about the price of music, but everything has a price and if you want to legally and ethically listen to the music you can either pay the price the companies are asking or you can listen to something else.
- clickwir, on 10/11/2007, -5/+3really? Cause you know exactly how all the backend transactions work and you have records proving that they are not getting paid? No? Didn't think so. Or are you just assuming that because the RIAA said so. Is it really that hard to think that the RIAA might be lying, oh like the million other times they did...
- actorboy, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4clickwir: Please show your evidence to the contrary.
...Though so.
- actorboy, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4clickwir: Please show your evidence to the contrary.
- clickwir, on 10/11/2007, -5/+3really? Cause you know exactly how all the backend transactions work and you have records proving that they are not getting paid? No? Didn't think so. Or are you just assuming that because the RIAA said so. Is it really that hard to think that the RIAA might be lying, oh like the million other times they did...
- benjio, on 10/11/2007, -5/+3*****!
- gamemaster357, on 10/11/2007, -9/+1NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
- Dougman82, on 10/11/2007, -3/+7I just wish the RIAA would learn something from the success of these websites - that a GREAT DEAL of people are more likely to pay for reasonably-priced music rather than download it for free with Limewire or through a torrent.
- actorboy, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4Since when is 99¢ for a song you can listen to the rest of your life without it degrading over time considered excessive?
- Dougman82, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2I don't purchase music by the song - I purchase by the album. If they're going to charge me $12-$15 for an album, they damn well better make sure it is in CD form without their ***** DRM.
- gwinerreniwg, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1If you're referring to iTunes, I'd make a long-tail bet with you, that you could not play a song purchased in iTunes today 8 years from now. And yes, ripping to a more "long term" format violates your license agreement with Apple, and this frankly proves the OP's point.
- rocket777, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2yup, penny wise, pound foolish. The could sell at this price, with huge volume and make more than they do now. But they're scared because they've had a lock on things by limiting access through ownership of politicians willing to let them keep a monopoly for basically forever, when the original bargain for creating the concept of informational property was to promote variety that would get into the public domain once they'd made their profits. But they wanted more, and so bought more politicians.
There's nothing in natural law that creates IP, it's a man made gun enforced system. It's not peaceful commerce. They need to go the way of buggy whips.
- actorboy, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4Since when is 99¢ for a song you can listen to the rest of your life without it degrading over time considered excessive?
- mzkhadir, on 10/11/2007, -4/+0now there is mp3sparks.com
- GetTheGirl, on 10/11/2007, -5/+0time for a replacement to allofmp3, music in the 'clouds'
http://seeqpod.com - ibeetle, on 10/11/2007, -3/+6In other news. Mp3sparks.com and Mp3sugar.com are completely untouched, and are welcoming AllofMp3.com customers.
I think it is incredible that a music download site has done something that no terrorist organization has ever done. Bring two countries (the U.S. and Russia) and the WTO to its knees. Hey! al-Qaeda you see this? Want'a shut down the government? Stop bombing buildings, and open a cheap Mp3 music site. - JAK2112, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2good thing mp3stor.com is still working. Theres no going back to itunes after buying full albums for under $1.50, though with this news, i dont see it lasting for much longer :(
- dczanik, on 10/11/2007, -1/+0"The more you tighten your grip the more star systems will slip through your fingers"
http://skreemr.com/
(yet another mp3 search tool) - ThatEvilGuy, on 10/11/2007, -2/+0So is mp3sparks the best of these "new" allofmp3 replacements?
- terrya64, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1mp3sparks is the same company as allofmp3, it was just under a different name.
- terrya64, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1mp3sparks is the same company as allofmp3, it was just under a different name.
- excalpius, on 10/11/2007, -3/+4Note that the cost of manufacturing and distributing a CD (including producing the content found on it) is FAR less than the cost of manufacturing and distributing a DVD (including producing the content found on it), so why again are CDs $20 or more and DVDs $10 or less? Think about it.
- scratched, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Because you'll get more use out of a CD than a DVD.
Think about it.
You can listen to an album more times that you'll watch a movie. - gwinerreniwg, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4"Please don't think about it.
Signed, RIAA and MPAA" - ultimate_ed, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Maybe because a CD is a stand alone product, while a DVD is just an additional revenue stream for a product that has already recovered it's basic expenses by a theatrical run?
- scratched, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Because you'll get more use out of a CD than a DVD.
- skull24, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
- cfarmer8, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1carecopter down
- IslandDog, on 10/11/2007, -5/+3Good. Piracy is illegal and the site should be shut down.
- coldfusion1970, on 10/11/2007, -5/+4I cant believe the number of people in this thread making excuses for illegally downloading music.
Of course it was illegal and i have no sympathy if you're going to try and 'justify' it with some crap excuse.
I would have more respect for you guys if you just came out and said 'i wanted a cheap illegal way to download loads of music', rather than try to wriggle out of it.
Pathetic.- ZPWeeks, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1They already have a FREE illegal way, if they want it. Much cheaper and easier than ALLOFMP3, as well. And they admit it.
AllOfMP3 was a legal grey market - both sides are partially right, and the person who lost because of it was the music label. Some people have little sympathy for the label whining and bitching about their lost profits.
That said, I pay good money for my music. Most of the time, I get it through legal avenues. The only time that I do otherwise is if the "free market" is ripping the customer off and doesn't provide product at a fair value. Then it's stealing on both ends, the customer and the person trying to sell it for outrageous prices. If you actually understand how free markets are supposed to work, crap like DRM and corrupt government intervention in royalties and bad laws create artificial price floors to extort unreasonable profits from their own customers.
Once the labels are willing to suck it up and work on actually innovating and supporting good music like they're supposed to, we will once again see a fruitful, legal economic exchange between music lovers and those who make and produce that music. Until then, the labels are just bringing it down on themselves.
I will not say "i wanted a cheap illegal way to download loads of music." Because I didn't. I wanted to pay a reasonable price to receive a reasonable product in return, but there was none. So I went for the next best thing for my own benefit, since that's what the music labels on the other side are already doing.- coldfusion1970, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Then the standard reply is "if something is not value for money, then dont buy it".
I want a PS3, but at the moment i cant justify it, but i'm not going to steal it and then try to justify with poor arguments.
- coldfusion1970, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Then the standard reply is "if something is not value for money, then dont buy it".
- rocket777, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2You speak of law breaking as though it's some sort of horrible thing. You need to get some perspective. Killing thousands by lawbreaking politicians gets a pass, and they who never go to jail, yet are the ones making up all these laws. Read the constitution, it's a law too, and it only provides copyrights for limited times. 80 years or so ain't my idea of limited.
Anything that depends on the government for its survival deserves what it gets.
There is no difference between the government and the mafia. The governments simply is bigger crooks. So, don't get so high and mighty about the virtue of these questionable laws. They weren't given to man by the gods, some stupid politician who took a bribe voted for these laws and never even read them.
You can't have property that is not tangible. Hell, if hum their song I'm probably making an illegal (low fidelity) copy. Take me away in chains.- coldfusion1970, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1So because stealing isnt as bad a crime as killing someone, you're saying that its not breaking the law? Or that we should ignore it?
I wouldnt want to live in any country that you're in charge of.
- coldfusion1970, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1So because stealing isnt as bad a crime as killing someone, you're saying that its not breaking the law? Or that we should ignore it?
- ZPWeeks, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1They already have a FREE illegal way, if they want it. Much cheaper and easier than ALLOFMP3, as well. And they admit it.
- RuckusNutz, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3BOOOOOOO!
- ProtossX, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2in soviet russia mp3's download you
- yoshitomi, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1I knew it! This sadistic joke had to be said by some lame ass nerd thinking he's funny.
*snort* *grunt* *pushes glasses up* *cackle*
Guess what, nerdo? Soviet Russia or not, hot girl will never like you.
- yoshitomi, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1I knew it! This sadistic joke had to be said by some lame ass nerd thinking he's funny.
- PrettyBoyFloyd, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Probably not a coincidence that George W. Bush met with Vladmir Putin yesterday and today. The major media indicated that most of what they discussed was the proposed missile defense system Bush wants to base in eastern Europe, but I'd wager they spent a little bit of time discussing AllofMP3.com.
- limeyfather, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0mp3real.ru is doing some weird thing too.... instead of downloading the music, an imbedded player (quicktime for me) just loads the song, and you can only listen. wtf, russia? Being russian myself, I find this very ***** strange.
- jasonprussell, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Silly kids. AllOfMP3.com has not been shut down, in fact, I'm using them at this very moment. We've heard this a hundred times before, it still hasn't happened. Just because you can't get to the web site, doesn't mean the site was shut down. Servers go down all the time.
- Kyderdog, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1So now we know what bush is really doing in Russia.
- brianbennett, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1The allTunes client still works. I emptied my balance and will wait and see how this shakes out. - http://alltunes.com/
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