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- D3koy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+24Know what dropping album sales might be directly correlated to? Crappy as hell songs...
You're complaining about a poor selling period when the number one song is "Sexy Back", you have got to be kidding me..
(for the record I just assumed Sexy Back was the number one song, I don't listen to the radio) - AlanKc, on 10/12/2007, -3/+21I haven't paid for a mainstream CD in about 3 years. Come to think of it, I haven't listened to a mainstream in at least a year. Id like to see an article about how Indie-artists are doing. Thats where my money's going..
- Chordonblue, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17Licensing for films and retail alone will keep this 'industry' afloat forever. If we never bought another CD, it really wouldn't matter. They still hold the rights to all the music and will just raise their prices to compensate. After all - who can really compete with the massive catalog they have now?
And as for 'album' sales dropping... Well... They have only themselves to blame for that. Start signing quality acts that can produce an overall good 'album' and it'll sell. Look at Weird Al's success with his latest! - psyops2000, on 10/12/2007, -3/+19The bands and the artists can all thank the RIAA for this. GG.
- bubba9999, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16Hmmm - people aren't buying albums this year. It must be because of piracy, not because we're putting out tons of garbage.
Maybe it's just me getting older, but it seems like there's less and less coming out each year that appeals to me. - eonblue, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11It's not just you. I havn't heard anything really good lately. Honestly I think we need to legalize some drugs. Maybe then well get some decent new music ;P
- halvertos, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11no surprises
- skywake, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10I would not only consider the fact that digital services are taking over the traditional album sales but also the amount of good albums that came out. I still buy CD's and even I got less albums last year then I have previously....
I got.... 4 CD's... that's it.... - catt231, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9I'll download an album to see if I like it before I buy it... everyone is correct - the standard of musical talent in the charts these days is poor, I find many more independent artists on their own labels which is a good thing, costs me less and they get more money in return!
- mikesly, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Who knows anymore it all blends into one large annoying noise that you can no longer distinguish. What happened to music in all its glory? North American music has tanked and only a few good bands that are afloat reside in the UK... (speaking about Rock -- really do not consider Rap (current rap to be music) Old 80's rap is rap.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9If all CD's were 5 bucks, I bet sales would be off the hook!
- silenceHR, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7You are both right... albums cost way too much for crap that is on them. Either drop the price or make better albums, people don't want overpriced crap..
- imjustabill, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Maybe if they would put out something worth buying....
I'd much rather spend my money for local/indie artists, they're usualy half as cheap as RIAA cds too. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6you're close enough
- Sarkos, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I would agree with the posters above, there are 2 main problems with music nowadays, the price and the quality. The entertainment industry loves to blame low sales on the internet (and to an extent they are right), but the fact is that most mainstream music is derivative crap which I wouldn't want to buy. As sales drop, they put their prices up, which makes me even less likely to buy anything.
This applies to movies as well, I hardly ever go to the cinema any more. Too expensive and too crap.
For the record, I have a collection of over 200 CD's and I'm quite happy to spend money on artists that I like. Lately this has mostly been indie artists, as they are the only ones willing to experiment and do something different. - Cerebral, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Would everyone stop complaining about the musical talent out there!
There is plenty of "talent" out there, the problem is that MTV and/or "the radio" doesn't play it. I can list some non-radio bands here that have tons of talent: Atreyu, Underoath, As I Lay Dying, Summerbirds in the Cellar, Anberlin, Between the Buried and Me, Mindless Self Indulgence, Norma Jean, Maylene and the Sons of Disaster, The Darkness, Dragonforce, Priestess, Buckethead and the biggest non-mainstream mainstream band Deftones. All these guys have amazing talent, especially Dragonforce which has some of the most amazing guitar I've ever heard in my life along with Buckethead.
If you listen to rock radio you get the same crap all the time. Some of this stuff may be out there but it is worth listening to. - chrislerch, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I have over 1,000 CDs and used to buy 3-4 a month in the 80's and 90s. I usually owned 5-6 of the albums in the top 10. I think I bought two last year. Music just sucks today if you don't like hip-hop or country. Where's the rock albums? The power-pop albums? The alternative albums that aren't so off the wall as to be unlistenable? Can't anybody write a decent song anymore? Yes, some can, but they lose their record deals, get discouraged and break up because they can't get any airplay thanks to all the crap out there dominating the airwaves.
- Charlotte_Web, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5It's been so long I don't even remember the last time I paid full retail for a CD. I don't download illegaly; I pay for all of my music. I either buy individual songs off of iTunes or I buy used CD's off of Half.com and rip them to AAC.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5The only rock out there now is "Whiny Wuss Rock" I turned on the radio today and I think I just had my first period.
AFI: Waaaaaaaaaaaaah
Killers: Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
Panic! at the Playground: Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5"Here we see Lars Ulrich. He's crying by his swimming pool. Why is he crying? He wanted to fill his swimming pool with Perrier, and now he has to settle for Poland Springs. Do you still think downloading music doesn't hurt anybody?"
*paraphased* - mikesly, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6No its the music and quality or lack there of...
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5This just in... 8-track sales PLUMMET with the onset of the cassette tape.
This just in... LP sales PLUMMET with the onset of the cassette tape.
This just in... Cassette tape sales PLUMMET with the onset of the CD.
This just in... CD sales PLUMMET with the onset of horrible music, and digital sales SKYROCKET - Ronnie, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5"However, while hits were created -- Daniel Powter's "Bad Day," Gnarls Barkley's "Crazy," Shakira's "Hips Don't Lie"
They're Kidding right? Hits... you call these "Hits"... No wonder mainstream is tanking...
I get ALL my music from the artists themselves.. from CD baby links on their websites or digital downloads from MySpace.ETC. Why should I buy anything from this homogenized industry where .1% of the artists get 99% of the radio airtime, When there is better music being produced and sold by artists themselves... When was the last time you bought a Shakira CD and had her email you to make sure you got it and to find out what you thought of the 3rd track. or just to say thank you for your patronage. Connect with the music.. I challenge everyone to buy a CD from an indie artist from their website. Send them an email and say thank you! FK the RIAA - Meep3D, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Maybe if they didn't cost so much it would be different. The music industry forgets people have a finite amount of money, and there are much, much more things to spend it on these days - games, movies, hardware, going out not to mention it's a struggle just to break even financially these days.
When a DVD or a movie costs £9 (which cost ~£25 million to make) and a CD costs £15 (which costs ~£20,000 tops to make) you know something is wrong. Music used to cost a lot because it was expensive to make, record and distribute. Now anyone with a home PC can make an album of decent quality - where is the cost savings being passed on to the consumer now?
I do not believe that CD's are value for money and I think consumers are realising this too, especially compared to what you can also get with a similar investment. Drop the price to £5 and I'd probably buy loads, but shelling out £15 for an album that probably has only 3 good tracks on it is ridiculous, especially when I can put down another £5 and get a whole series of 24/South Park/Etc instead.
And I am definatley not buying them when I know the artist is getting less that £1 for each CD sold, and there is a high chance that some pathetic attempt at DRM will stop it even working in the first place. - Ghstfce, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I think you are totally accurate. The RIAA goes off the cuff suing grandma, an 8 year old child, that blind kid up the street, basically everyone. And they are surprised that record sales continue to drop? "Let's blame it on piracy gentlemen!" WRONG. Let's blame it on America finally seeing what's going on and putting an end to it in the best way possible: through the record companies pockets. Enticing people to actually pirate by putting out these CDs that serious sound like garbage and still epecting people to buy them at $15 bucks a pop? You've got to be kidding me. Every rap song sounds the same, there's maybe 2 out there that DIDN'T steal the background music from a 70s-80s song. Alternative rock is basically turning into a travesty also. When did alternative rock = emo crybaby? Support local music, go to a bar and enjoy people that love the music. ***** the RIAA with the AIDS stick.
- MatthewDuke, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Not forever, just until the copyright runs out on the songs. Rejoice!
- Ronnie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"After all - who can really compete with the massive catalog they have now?"
Indie artists that's who. Let them have their catalog. there's nothing new worth listening to any way.
Support your local bands.. Support viral marketing through MySpace and CD baby.
If you think Indie can't compete....Last year a Grammy was given for the first time to an unsigned artist, to a Jazz artist that recorded, produced, and marketed her work on the internet without being gobbled up by the big 3. Stuff that in you pipe and smoke it RIAA - mt066, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"Hmmmm...dramatic increase in the sale of digital tracks, eh? We better try to jack up the price and copy restrictions on those things, obviously."
- brianbowden, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3See. That's what I've been saying for a while now. The music industry has attributed its losses to piracy when in fact, most major label acts are horrible. That is why Indie labels are thriving. This is the biggest the underground has been in years and it continues to be growing. But this is all for the better. The 7 (I guess 6 now) major labels have had one foot in the grave for a while. Hopefully this continues. No major labels, no RIAA, no Britney Spears/Nelly/My Chemical Romance, etc. Sounds pretty good to me.
- sjbdallas, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Agreed. It's the content more than anything else. Music piracy started to gain steam when people realized that a $15 CD only had 2 decent songs on it, so why buy the whole thing when you can get a copy of what you wanted. Now with digital music, all they've done is ensured that they at least get paid for those 2 songs most of the time. We're tired of bands from teh 60s and 70s reforming and putting out crap, we're tired of the manufactured bubblegum pop crap, and we're tired of the good bands spending 5 years working on new stuff.
Local and independent music is on the rise now because a garage band can distribute their music just as easily as the big labels and it's often better. - krasht, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2My only CD Album purchase all year: Iron Maiden - A Matter of Life and Death. My best album purchase in years to be honest.
- Gunsmith, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5its not the music thats the problem, its th price.
- albinoMithos, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@D3koy
"Sexy Back"? Do I even wanna know what that is? - adml_shake, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Thats because if the companies of the RIAA see that the public likes something they spend billions copying it with their other groups and grind it into the ground until people are sick of hearing it. Then when it gets unpopular they just blame music piracy and try to find the next thing. You'll never see originality in the RIAA groups. You'll see something they want you to think is original, but if you look around a little bit you'll find that some indie group was doing it first.
- EComni, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"Music just sucks today if you don't like hip-hop or country."
Not true. It sucks all over. I like hip hop and my friend likes country, and we both agree that this period is the absolute WORST time ever for both of those genres quality-wise.
Mainstream radio music has never been as good as the indie stuff in any period, but the mainstream music today is just unacceptably bad, and it's not just me getting old. It's bad when I have to go underground just to find something *decent* to listen to. - barney74, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2In the past year, the most CDs that I have bought were to either replace ones that won't play anymore (Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, CCR, AC/DC) or to get some more of the classic artist (Johny Cash, Merle Haggard, Beastie Boys [older stuff], NWA, Run DMC, Floyd, Zep, CCR, AC/DC). There were a few exceptions (KoRn, Disturbed) but not many.
- HAKdragon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I'd have to agree. I recently purchased a number off of Amazon. All of them were used and cheap with the price coming out to be roughly $5/CD after shipping. If I could walk into a big box store and pick up a CD for $5, I'd be more inclined to purchase more music. (Assuming they'd have what I was looking for, of course.)
- unfinity, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Yeah, everyone knows that the more talented you are, the less money you have.
You should really check out the new album by "Hobo Pete and the Broken Bottle Orchestra" - Ratteler, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1A "good" artist can't be scared off. They create because they have to.
If you're doing any kind of art to "make it", quit and go be a garbage man.
I would rather listen to a garbage man who plays for fun, than a man who plays garbage for money. - skellener, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I agree meepzork! Keep making those CD's! I ain't buyin' those low quality DRM'd tunes when I can get full quality non-DRM'd ones! Even better when you find it at the local used CD store for like $3 - $4 !!!
- DooM, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1THANK YOU for making the obvious point. This article is almost surely based on a BS RIAA press release:
"Please, no one notice that we actually made MORE money this year because people bought MORE digital tracks -- no, no, in order for us to keep whining you have to lament the fact that no one wants our obsolete plastic discs with root kits on them!"
CD sales dropped by 4% but digital track increased by *65%* -- their profits went from $969.72 Million to $1.2 *BILLION*. Excuse me for not crying for you. - bobbyi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"Where's the rock albums? The power-pop albums? The alternative albums that aren't so off the wall as to be unlistenable? Can't anybody write a decent song anymore?"
The Hold Steady doesn't count for anything? Boys and Girls in America is a ***** amazing album. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1As if it's entirely difficult to keep the music industry afloat.
- bash, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@Ronnie: Don't be dissing Gnarls Barkley. They were one of the few breaths of fresh air in an otherwise stale hip hop year.
The two guys from G.B. were working their asses off (before they met) to get buzz underground; they deserve the popularity they got. - shiftless, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It's been fun boycotting the RIAA. I spent thousands of dollars on CD's when Napster was alive and running. Then they decided to make it a crime to download an MP3 file and sue kids for hundreds of thousands of dollars which was the stupidest thing I'd ever heard. Now I just stick to free online netlabels and music blogs. It isn't hard to shut the RIAA out of your life.
- HAKdragon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I miss the old AFI. Beginning with Sing the Sorrow they really started to becoming whiny and emo-ish.
Cerebal, if you want a band that tells stories in with their songs, I heavily recommend The Decemberists. - steelrat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I've matured enough that I am no longer listening to most of the music that is being shat out at us. On-line opens up a whole new world of musical options. We are no longer confined to only what the record store carries or the endless spew of noise on the radio. MTV ruined the music business for people who actually enjoy music. VIVA REVOLUTION!
- deadbaby, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1There's a lot of great music out there today. I'm sorry you guys aren't able to find any of it. Maybe your standards are too high?
- t0ny, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1They better hurry and start suing people.
- meepzork, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11st - ***** itunes and every other download service. I have no problem whatsoever buying a cd if the music is good. I also have no problem NOT paying for it if it is *****. If im paying for it, I want the highest possible quality, a hard copy with artwork, and no DRM. i honestly dont understand how people use those services. i received an itunes card for xmas which was quickly re-gifted.
2nd - i think last year i bought more cd's than ive ever bought in my life. if you guys didnt jump on the tower records liquidation....sucks 4 you.
3rd - old music > new music. theres alot of music out there that is simultaneously new and good.... but good luck finding it. sirius has introduced me to alot of cool bands since i signed up. -
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