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- itsallgeektome, on 10/12/2007, -7/+83Unfortunately I think this film will be largely judged along political lines rather than it's own merits. (ie. lots of people who say it's good or bad who haven't seen it)
- geedubber, on 10/12/2007, -7/+51Al Gore on a jet? OH NO! but wait....
From Wired's May Issue, "The Gores and all the employees of Generation lead a "carbon-neutral" lifestyle, reducing their energy consumption when possible and purchasing so-called offsets available on newly emerging carbon markets. Gore says he and Tipper regularly calculate their home and business energy use - including the carbon cost of his prodigious global travel. Then he purchases offsets equal to the amount of carbon emissions they generate. Last year, for example, Gore and Tipper atoned for their estimated 1 million miles in global air travel by giving money to an Indian solar electric company and a Bulgarian hydroelectric project."
These ad hominem attacks are ridiculous. You know Al Gore exhales CO2 daily.... what a hypocrite eh? - uptown, on 10/12/2007, -13/+57I saw that penguin movie ... it looked plenty cold to me.
- strictnein, on 10/12/2007, -18/+54Here's the catch about the movie: Rightly or wrongly, if you go to a theater to see it you are counted among those that agree. They will be trumpeting the number of people who buy tickets to this movie just like they did for F/911.
- RyeBrye, on 10/12/2007, -33/+62FTA: "The 10 warmest years in history were in the last 14 years" This is not true. (Unless you only look at recently recorded "history"). The planet was several degrees warmer when the dinosaurs were around.
- KyleRayner, on 10/12/2007, -5/+34I know this comment isnt really about the movie's merits, but I have to say it anyway.
What we have here are two, possibly seperate, issues. One, the world is getting warmer. Two, humans pollute the earth.
Warming of the world could be due to a natural cycle, could be due to the sun's natural cycle, could be due to human pollution, we dont know. Itll be a while before we have enough data to measure accurately, since we havent been here long comparatively.
That notwithstanding, we pollute the earth, and we know it. Is it so wrong to want to reduce emissions and wean ourselves off of petroleum fuels? We have the technology to reduce the stress we place on the earth, why dont we use it? Why not look forward to the future of the planet? - skytimelapse, on 10/12/2007, -6/+32Irrelevant, what matters is the future climate and it's ability to support billions of humans and our possible impact on that climate.
Nobody but nobody is saying doomsday is around the corner. But many are making scientific correlations between climate change and carbon emissions. To ignore those correlations and dismiss them as partisan arguments could be terrible folly. That is all. - mirek, on 10/12/2007, -10/+34I saw the trailer for this. It actually looks really good. You dont have to be a hippy to enjoy a movie like this...
- aplusplus, on 10/12/2007, -4/+28Does anybody know if there are plans for a wider release of this film?
I wish I could find a .torrent or an online stream. In my opinion, this should be one of those films which support the idea of being pirated or distributed for free. Wish this were the case, already. - mikegre, on 10/12/2007, -21/+44Last month there was a report that the polar ice cap on Mars was in the process of shrinking. Must be those damn Martians in their damn SUVs.
- repins, on 10/12/2007, -7/+29Yea they are called Sprit and Opportunity :)
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -33/+55got to love attack the messanger mentality.
al gore was seen in a jet so global warming is a hoax.. - HMTKSteve, on 10/12/2007, -9/+30I agree.
The messenger overshadows the message.
Same problem with Michael Moore's movies. - RyeBrye, on 10/12/2007, -22/+43Okay, it seems that people don't believe me. This statement is ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE. Let me provide you some sources to examine:
http://www.clearlight.com/~mhieb/WVFossils/Carboniferous_climate.html (scroll down toward the bottom to see this image: http://www.clearlight.com/~mhieb/WVFossils/PageMill_Images/image277.gif )
http://www.scotese.com/climate.htm
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/23/AR2006052301305_pf.html - ScottAG, on 10/12/2007, -6/+26What's wrong with people trying to do something to reverse a trend of excess, oil dependency, and pollution??
- sheldonwilson, on 10/12/2007, -7/+26You could always come watch the film at the Palm Theatre in San Luis Obispo, CA. It is the first solar powered theater in the US.
http://www.thepalmtheatre.com - strictnein, on 10/12/2007, -26/+44"al gore was seen in a jet so global warming is a hoax.."
No, and you're ignorant if you took that from it. Al Gore's message is "If you all don't change your ways, bad things are going to happen!" Just don't look for Gore or any other of the jet setting elitist liberals to change a damn thing about theirs. - mgrasso, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16My "Inconvenient Truth" Haiku:
We will all soon die
Give me your seven dollars
and I'll tell you why - quasipalm, on 10/12/2007, -10/+24"...and begin a slide..."
keyword: BEGIN. He's not saying everyone will be dead in ten years. - Omega697, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15The definition of "History" is the time during which events are recorded.
This is why the time the dinosaurs around is referred to as "pre-historic". - uptown, on 10/12/2007, -7/+20Too bad Ebert didn't have as much conviction about "Supersize Me".
- Sirocco, on 10/12/2007, -19/+31>> In 1997 when Al Gore was Vice President of the United States, the Senate rejected
>> Kyoto 95-0. That's great environmental leadership!
>>
That, good sir, is the real Inconvenient Truth. - alspar, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13The truth/untruth of global warming is a scientific question, not a political one. America really needs to get out of this liberal/conservative mindset. My views upon whether humans are altering Earth's climate are totally separate from my views on abortion/taxes/religion etc. You can't simply draw a line down every issue like this. If you don't "believe" in global warming, that should be a decision you have reached independently and not motivated by your disdain for people in the opposing camp.
- timdorr, on 10/12/2007, -4/+15Enough to power The Matrix?
- joerao, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13Not everyone lives in a city, or near a theater... especially one that is playing this.
...the real truth is that downloading theatrical movies off of bittorrent saves the planet. - evildorko, on 10/12/2007, -4/+14I'm absolutely astounded at how partisan people have become in this country. The science isn't still questionable about Global Warming- whats questionable is how it is presented to the masses. The president says the jury is still out, the rest of his party mostly agree. Because Bush is so newsworthy, that gets published in papers and people start to doubt whether Global Warming is a reality- can someone PLEASE point me to a valid scientific study that has concluded that human civilization is not contributing to an unnatural occurrence of warm weather on our planet that, if left unchecked, will have cataclysmic impacts on the planet and our ability to continue living on it? Seriously, as far as I know science is pretty much unanimously agreed on that.
Now what makes more sense to everyone: that a bunch of capitalism hating hippies have created Global Warming as a scare campaign so they can regulate industry (just for fun?) or that a bunch of corporate owned politicians have attempted to confuse and subvert the science of Global Warming in order to keep profits high and regulation down?
We cannot continue to allow corporations to run our country and, in many cases, destroy our planet. I have absolutely no problem with Capitalism- that isn't what is in question. Whats in question is whether Capitalism and a true representative Democracy can co-exist.
How does it hurt the average American to require GM to produce more gas efficient cars? If GM were required to produce cars that averaged 40mpg, the average American would be required to buy less gas and would be more apt to buy an American car thus keeping American factory workers employed. What it hurts is the oil industry- an industry who just happens to have a stranglehold on our government. These are the kind of regulations we are talking about- do they really seem that unfair or communist? - joerao, on 10/12/2007, -16/+26If you really must see this movie... don't go to the theater, save gas and download it off of bittorrent.
If this was such a devestating issue, why does Al Gore insist we pay to see his film? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+15Regardless of the hypocrisy question on how the Sentate voteed while Gore was still in office, Kyoto was something that the US was EXTREMELY smart o stay away from. It saved the planet in INSIGNIFICANT amount of temperature change, while costing hundreds of billions of dollars. Furthermore, it tried to target the US to cover most of the costs...again, with no hope of changing the temperature enough to cause ANY noticeable amount.
- santaclaws, on 10/12/2007, -11/+20If you're one of the apparently many on this site who consider there still to be a "debate" about global warming, consider that you *might* just have been fed misinformation through the media. After all, as Ebert points out, industry did exactly the same regarding the dangers of cigarettes.
- timdorr, on 10/12/2007, -6/+15"Al Gore on a jet? OH NO! but wait...."
There's a Snakes on a Plane reference in there somewhere... - santaclaws, on 10/12/2007, -17/+26Yeah, those damned climate scientists (who have 100% consensus on this issue). They're all pinko liberals.
- Nichevo, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13Oddly enough this sort of statement more often than not comes from people who believed Shrubs WMD tale...
- Raptor235, on 10/12/2007, -5/+14if you haven't seen the trailer yet..
http://www.aboutmyplanet.com/environment/a-must-see-i-hope-its-not-too-late-for-our-grandchildren - aplusplus, on 10/12/2007, -6/+14Just a little update on this comment.
From their blog ( http://www.climatecrisis.net/blog/ )
Expecting to be showing in the top 100 markets by June 16th and you can view the MTV special on MTV Overdrive: http://www.mtv.com/thinkmtv/features/environment/inconvenient_truth/ - AKfortyseven, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10We have HAD the technology... however, people are making too much money at the moment.
- aplusplus, on 10/12/2007, -7/+14I would sure hope not. I don't think eating McDonalds is as big of an issue as saving the world.
- ingenium21, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Its amazing how many of you piss me off with your ignorant politically leaning comments.
"The enviornmentalist wackos really just hate capitalism and their scare mongering is just one more way to hamper productive society."
we have this retarded statement, where someone who cares about the environment hates capitalism.
"B.S. hippie scare-tactics"
apparently we're all hippies trying to scare people
"And, why is this on Digg? Oh, right, because you're all a bunch of liberals... Digg is for articles about technology... and liberal agenda,"
and we're all liberals, of course we have to be, I mean, once someone goes to college, they all realize "hey, maybe Bush doesn't really talk to God"
-Basically, I'm going to flat out say it because honestly, I hear all this talk against Global warming, and as someone who actually spends his time doing actual research work...you all are ***** dumb. Firstly, Lets see our chairman of the US Senate committee of Environmental Policy, James Inhofe, and why should we not listen to him. Well he's from oklahoma, so that's huuuge points off. Secondly, In the 2002 election cycle oil and gas companies contributed more money to Inhofe's campaign than any other congressman except Texas senator John Cornyn. Yeah, we should totally be listening to that guy when it comes to the Environment.
Secondly, if you really want to see how much Global Warming really exists, Entrez Pubmed, or Sciencedirect. And just read, And you will see examples how not one single climatologist can give an explanation other than global warming for the melting of the polar ice caps. Literally thousands of Researchers, Ph.Ds, masters, in biology, geology, climatology, ecology, etc. Agree. Why? Because of hundreds of actual, peer-reviewed, articles Give real scientific explanations that say "hey, quit your *****". - cius, on 10/12/2007, -21/+27Let me tell you what the problem is here. It's not politics, its disinformation and misrepresentation (oh wait, that what politics is...).
"Global warming is real.
It is caused by human activity."
Half right there movie-guy. Global warming *is* real, but we are not the *cause* of it, we are merely contributors. The question is not "is human activity causing global warming", rather the question is "does human activity contribute to global warming, potentially exacerbating the problem and bringing about the nastier effects sooner than they might otherwise come about?" Looked at this way, controlling all emissions and turning out our lights will not save us from a warmer climate and harsher weather. At best, it might put it off a bit.
"Out of 925 recent articles in peer-review scientific journals about global warming, there was no disagreement. Zero."
Oh, well thats nice, except that its highly unlikely. Without getting into technicalities, lets just suffice it to say that this is tantamount to claim that "all scientists agree global warming is happening" which means that if we can find even one scientist that does not say this, then we have effectively refuted your premise. And as all good logic students know, in order for the conclusion to logically follow, all premises must be true.
"He provides statistics: The 10 warmest years in history were in the last 14 years. Last year South America experienced its first hurricane. Japan and the Pacific are setting records for typhoons. Hurricane Katrina passed over Florida, doubled back over the Gulf, picked up strength from unusually warm Gulf waters, and went from Category 3 to Category 5. There are changes in the Gulf Stream and the jet stream. Cores of polar ice show that carbon dioxide is much, much higher than ever before in a quarter of a million years."
I love this bit the most. First he says the ten hottest years "in history" occurred in the last fourteen years. No qualifier of "reliably recorded" for this historical claim, just straight up "in history". That implies, like, you know...ever. But then we have this tidbit http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/01/science/earth/01climate.html?ex=1306814400&en=d3d5c72243b38521&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss that relates a bit of new evidence that the *frackin ARCTIC* was once *tropical*. ... Am I missing something here? One of the coldest places on earth is found to have once had mosquitos the size of my head, sunshine like Hawaii, and massive fern growths, but the *hottest* years in history have been in the last fourteen years?! I knew former vice presidents enjoyed benefits, but come one, are hallucinogens really necessary?
Anyway, I'll leave it at that. Anyone that may be inclined, feel free to pick up the torch. - mightymouse, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9I attended a lecture by Gore at my university yesterday on this exact topic. He got a standing ovation, and sold a bunch of his books out in the lobby.
However, it was quite startling to see all the statistics... if only I could trust them. - duggout, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7The following monologue, "The Planet Is Fine," is taken from from George Carlin's
Jammin' In New York, Eardrum Records, 1992.
"...The planet is fine. The people are *****. Difference, difference. The planet is fine.
Compared to the people, the planet is doing great- been here 4 1/2 billion years.
Did you ever think about the arithmetic? The planet has been here 4 1/2 billion
years. We've been here what, a hundred thousand, maybe two hundred thousand? And
we've only been engaged in heavy industry for a little over 200 years. 200 years
versus 4 1/2 billion. And we have the conceit to think that somehow we're a
threat? That somehow we're gonna put in jeopardy this beautiful little blue-green
ball that's just a-floatin' around the Sun? The planet has been through a lot
worse than us, been through all kinds of things worse than us, been through
earthquakes, volcanoes, plate tectonics, continental drifts, solar flares, Sun
spots, magnetic storms, the magnetic reversal of the poles, hundreds of thousands
of years of bombardment by comets and asteroids and meteors, worldwide floods,
tidal waves, worldwide fires, erosion, cosmic rays, recurring ice ages.
And we think some plastic bags and some aluminum cans are going to make a
difference? The planet, the planet, the planet isn't going anywhere- we are. We're
going away. Pack your *****, folks. We're going away. And we won't leave much of a
trace either, thank God for that, maybe a little styrofoam, maybe, a little
styrofoam. The planet'll be here, we'll be long gone. Just another failed
mutation, just another closed-end biological mistake, an evolutionary cul-de-sac.
The planet'll shake us off like a bad case of fleas, a surface nuisance. ...
You wanna know how the planet's doing? Ask those people at Pompeii who are frozen
into position, from volcanic ash, how the planet's doing. Wanna know if the
planet's alright? Ask those people in Mexico City or Armenia or a hundred other
places buried under thousands of tons of earthquake rubble, if they feel like a
threat to the planet this week. How 'bout those people in Kilauea, Hawaii who
build their homes right next to an active volcano, and then wonder why they have
lava in the living room.
The planet will be here for a long, long, long time after we're gone, and it will
heal itself, it will cleanse itself 'cause that's what it does. It's a
self-correcting system. The air and the water will recover. The Earth will be
renewed, and if it's true that plastic is not degradable, well, the planet will
simply incorporate plastic into a new paradigm: the Earth plus plastic. The Earth
doesn't share our prejudice towards plastic. Plastic came out of the Earth. The
Earth probably sees plastic as just another one of its children. 'Could be the
only reason the Earth allowed us to be spawned from it in the first place. It
wanted plastic for itself, didn't know how to make it, needed us.
'Could be the answer to our age old, egocentric, philosophical question:" Why are
we here?" "Plastic, *****." So, the plastic is here, our job is done, we can be
phased out now. - repins, on 10/12/2007, -18/+24The world will end at 10..... details at 11.....
- justinvt, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8You're totally right, but most people don't want to think about their actions until there are negative consequences. This is why we can have a $9 trillion national debt.
- KissTheRing, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11Look who wrote the Rolling Stone article, Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
- omnithought, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10Unfortunately, all the facts and info in the world won't likely save us. The majority of our society has been turned into selfish, lazy, superficial cattle who will not lift a finger or sacrifice anything even to save themselves. They will plod forth into the grinder while discussing Tom Cruise and Britney Spears.
There are some good, conscious people, but unfortunately, such people are a vast, vast minority. I wish it was otherwise, but we know it isn't.
Indifference is the greatest pollutant. - Permanent4, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Yeah, and dinosaurs cost almost $3 a gallon these days. That's the REAL inconvenient truth.
- afrazkhan, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7
Science is not done by consensus. The majority of medical practitioners could agree that drinking a lot of milk everyday is good for you, unfortunately that doesn't make it true (and indeed, we know now that such quantities of calcium that we were told were a good thing, are in fact a bad thing).
Science works with testable hypothesis.
I am not against the idea of global warming, but I'm not going to believe it just because there's a consensus. Most likely, global warming exists, but it would be helpful (to me at least) if people would stop scare mongering and just hit me with some facts I can draw my own conclusions from. - omnithought, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Careful, when you make too much sense, you get labeled a terrorist. ;)
Seriously, well said. - versionke, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6There's no doubt humans will eventually make the planet inhabitable. Collectively we're just that bloody stupid and too busy fighting about everything to do change a damn thing.
Earth isn't going anywhere anytime soon. We are. - aburd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5The fact that you go after Ebert personally as a "pornographer" rather than dealing with any of the substance of his "review" really says a lot about the quality of your arguement.
- v4r4n, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Films cost money to make. Unless this whole project was done by a non-profit charity, they need a way to pay the bills.
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