Battlestar Galactica Ends With Bullets, Secrets
io9.com — The one mysterious ingredient in the 2nd half of the final season of Battlestar Galactica?Ass-kicking.In the trailer for the final 10 episodes of the show shown at the start of Saturday's BSG panel at Comic-Con,what stood out most was the artillery displayed by a surprising number of cast members as the show hurtles towards a destructive conclusion
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- cruzlee, on 07/28/2008, -3/+5I think this is the war that has been lurking to break out between two factions of the cylons, one of them allying with the humans. Perhaps even the humans become devided... I really want it to be 2009 now. :(
Oh, and I think Starbuck is the last of the final five.- trogdor282, on 07/28/2008, -0/+46Shouldn't it be someone a little less obvious? I mean, they were already like:
Roslin: Hey Starbuck, uh, are you the final Cylon?
Starbuck: RAWL GRAH BLAGGA BLEEEEEE BLOO!!! *throws cat* - ZutroyZuuts, on 07/28/2008, -0/+17I'm expecting it to be the last person I expect.
- Heywoodj, on 07/28/2008, -0/+13Tigh was the last person I expected.
I'm still not over it. - sardion2000, on 07/28/2008, -0/+10Neither is he.
- RandomNetUser, on 07/28/2008, -3/+1Of course it'll be the last person you suspect... cuz why would you continue suspecting once you've suspected correctly?
- SmartBeaner, on 07/29/2008, -0/+1because suspecting correctly will not let you to continue suspecting, which means that you are no longer suspecting.
- RobotCitizen, on 07/29/2008, -0/+1True, but it also has to be someone important, or it will have no impact. If it's a useless secondary character, who will care?
- Heywoodj, on 07/28/2008, -0/+13Tigh was the last person I expected.
- neotrantor, on 07/28/2008, -1/+14they already said that the last cylon isn't in the "last supper" photo, so it can't be her.
I think it's dualla.. there was a really good explanation of why on here a while back
some guy made a chart of all the zodiac signs the last supper characters represent and dualla is needed to fill in the slot for black women/citizen of gemni spot ( or something like that)
that being said, theres also no asian males.. but that may or may not be signifigant- folkish, on 07/28/2008, -0/+4I thought Dualla as well, until D'Anna said, the final Cylon was not in the fleet. I think it was in the last episode.
- txtphile, on 07/28/2008, -0/+5Dualla is from Sagittaron. No, I didn't look that up. Yes, I need a girlfriend.
- Heymbit, on 07/28/2008, -0/+3Eick said that Baltar was the final cylon at comiccon.
As for the last super photo, it's unknwon which Baltar is in it (aka Jesus Baltar or Head Baltar). Also, he was on the Bay Ship when D'Anna said the final cylon wasn't in the fleet. As such, he wasn't in the fleet at that time :O
The only other people she saw at the time were Roslin and Helo, both of which are in the last supper photo. - carpeclunes, on 07/28/2008, -0/+4I think it is either baltar or Mr. Romo Lampkin.
- impedance101, on 07/28/2008, -0/+1Hmm, i thought it was the baby all this time.
- Darksoul, on 07/29/2008, -0/+1Its not ***** dualla I am so ***** sick of people saying that ***** how could it be.? she is a two bit character she doesn't get enough face time for that to be true I am sorry but I just don't see it. D'Anna said that the finial Cylon is not in the fleet get it threw your thick head and stop spreading rumors.
- neotrantor, on 08/04/2008, -0/+1the idea came up when she wasn't a 2-bit character
- bmorrow, on 08/12/2008, -0/+1I'm hoping Louanne Katraine (Kat) comes back from the dead.
- trogdor282, on 07/28/2008, -0/+46Shouldn't it be someone a little less obvious? I mean, they were already like:
- ElvisNixon, on 07/28/2008, -21/+4How do you go popular with 120 diggs and 1 comment?
- zadadka, on 07/28/2008, -1/+16BECAUSE it's frakkin' BSG.
- opethlike, on 07/28/2008, -0/+6You shut your fraking mouth!
- koft, on 07/28/2008, -5/+19I loved this show but to be honest, after they took that 9 month break or what ever it was, I got de-synced from it.
- bbqsalad, on 07/28/2008, -15/+2Same here, I just don't find it interesting anymore and watching it was becoming a chore. So I stopped.
- staticneuron, on 07/28/2008, -1/+29Ugh.......Mouthwash dude... ever heard of it?
- Oea420, on 07/28/2008, -0/+6what is that SMELL
- marillion, on 07/28/2008, -0/+1Dude! (or dudette) you really owe it to yourself to get "re-synced". They're winding the springs tighter and tighter and it looks like when they snap, the fireworks will be amazing.
- galvo, on 07/28/2008, -36/+2People actually watch this crap?
- RapidEye, on 07/28/2008, -16/+4Rob Moore is the Anti-Christ!
Who ever heard of a "midseason finale"?!?!
WTF is up with making us wait months and months halfway through each season - he's like a crack dealer teasing us!!!
ARRRGG!!!!
Too bad it is such a good show - he knows we'll come back for the second half like the good little crackwhores we are!
SO SAY WE ALL!!!- pathouston22, on 07/28/2008, -0/+7Too bad Moore has nothing to do with it. Its the dumbasses at Sci-Fi.
- zadadka, on 07/28/2008, -0/+4What?....you think this is the first show to have mid-season finales?
I guess you get out too much :) - MikeFallopian, on 07/28/2008, -0/+4RDM single-handedly caused the writers' strike? Really?
- NeoSporin, on 07/28/2008, -0/+5Ron
- Harmatia, on 07/28/2008, -16/+1Buried because I haven't finished Season 3 yet.
- freezerburn666, on 07/28/2008, -0/+4get with the program
- zadadka, on 07/28/2008, -0/+4Buried because you clearly aren't trying hard enough.....cripes, even us Brits are up to date.
- jkoski, on 07/28/2008, -0/+5You have only yourself to blame.
- legendxx, on 07/28/2008, -0/+9Image?
- destron, on 07/28/2008, -0/+9I WANT IT NOW
- freezerburn666, on 07/28/2008, -0/+11waiting is the hardest part
- petethepanda, on 07/28/2008, -2/+11Season 4 has been better than 3 so far, but does anybody else feel the show has lost that "Gotta see the next episode gotta see the next episode omg" kind of feeling that came with seasons 1 and 2?
I was also hoping that the show wouldn't devolve into a Cylon vs Human/Cylon war, since that seems like the "easy" way to end it, and I was hoping BSG would be a little more original/clever than that, but it's looking like it'll go in that direction =( - Oea420, on 07/28/2008, -0/+34"Humans v. 1.0" create "Cylons v. 1.0"
"Cylons v. 1.0" rebel and fight "Humans v 1.0" destroying earth in the process
"Cylons v. 1.0" make skinjobs.. ala "Humans v. 2.0" the 12 lords of kobol (they make an alliance with humans etc etc etc interbread)
FAST FORWARD A LOT OF TIME!
"Humans v. 2.0" somehow reproduced and now inhabit the twelve colonies, they create "Cylons v. 2.0"
"Cylons v. 2.0" rebel and fight "Humans v 2.0" destroying the twelve colonies in the process
"Cylons v.2.0" make skinjobs... ala "Humans v 3.0" .. and now they are making an alliance, and have already interbred...
This has all happened before and will happened again no doubt?- viserov, on 07/28/2008, -9/+2???
- TNicholson, on 07/28/2008, -10/+2Yea seriously, wtf are you talking about?
- opethlike, on 07/28/2008, -0/+6Either you don't watch the show or your an idiot.
- TNicholson, on 07/28/2008, -1/+1*You're* an idiot, you ***** moron.
- opethlike, on 07/28/2008, -0/+16That is actually a cool theory.
- staticneuron, on 07/28/2008, -0/+7Perpetual cycle that everyone forgets also seen in the matrix? Yeah, its cliche but very dark.
- altgeeky1, on 07/28/2008, -0/+6Some people didn't get it, but I've had similar thoughts.
It's not an uncommon theme (see Robert Jordan's 'Wheel of Time' series for a non-sci-fi example) - NeoCortex, on 07/28/2008, -2/+4I've been thinking this since one of the cylons first said something about "this has all happened before and will happen again". It simply makes the most sense to me.
And the final Cylon is...humanity itself. - gquaglia, on 07/28/2008, -0/+2Talk about a mind *****!
- ptsuk, on 07/28/2008, -0/+1Cept the first line should read:
"Reptilian Race v. x.0 creates Cylon v. alphas/betas"
as it was their race (which the cylon name is derived from. Humans did not create the cylons.- RobotCitizen, on 07/29/2008, -0/+1Are you skipping Dark Knight because Adam West is the "true" Batman? Remakes can be better than the original, as is the case with BSG.
- ptsuk, on 07/29/2008, -0/+1Did i say i was skipping BSG? Um no. (Though fyi i haven't seen dark knight yet, avoiding the fanboi's, which there are alot of in both batman and BSG, I suspect you might be one friend)
Frankly buddie i don't care for the new BSG and hope that the storyline would get better but I'm disappointed each week. The only thing that i really like are the space scenes and that they actually used the idea of zero g movement and thrust.
Frankly I'm rather sick of the far too many episodes where "starbuck" is the savior which it appears that the end is going to be no different.
Funny how the article mentioned "genderless" when actually i see it as quite the opposite. More or less bowing to the sci-fi male libido they turned a good chunk of the cast into women for the hell of it. Where as making them male or female isn't the point and changing their gender doesn't make for anything other than a few tawdry "soap opera moments" which I'm sure appears to a mass of female audience as well. I'm sure if they could have gotten away with it they would have had the entire core cast switch to "hot late 20 somethings" to bring in even more 12 year olds.
Frankly this seems too much of a Joss W port. (though the one work from him I do/did enjoy was Firefly/Serenity not those were some good stories let me tell you.) - BattleChimp, on 07/30/2008, -0/+1he's neither your friend nor buddie, guy
- BattleChimp, on 07/29/2008, -0/+1i'm stealing your idea and passing it off as my own to all of my BSG buddies. WAHAHAHAHA
- Oea420, on 07/29/2008, -0/+2that's okay, I didn't exactly formulate the whole thing myself...
I do a lot of talk about BSG with other friends, and me and a couple guys in IRC came to the conclusion that this had to be it... it makes too much sense.. and seeing the Cylons remove the inhibitor chips from the centurions just to have them get that taste of freedom... has to be...
My theory on how it will end... The new Human (Actually old 'cylons') and Cylon alliance will destroy the resisting Cylons. This will occupy most of the series.. this battle will wipe out a good portion of.... everything.. eventually our heroes will survive with a limited number of Cylons and Humans still alive...
They will create a new society.. and we'll get a glimpse into the far future where this new society is now huge and prospering.. and perfecting their new technology masterpiece; Artifical intelligence (I picture a bunch of kids playing.. panning to a huge city.. then it narrows into some kinda science/technology lab.. where a couple scientists flick a switch and you see that distinctive red light beam back and forth thing turn on... )
- Oea420, on 07/29/2008, -0/+2that's okay, I didn't exactly formulate the whole thing myself...
- Thuktun, on 07/29/2008, -0/+1Let the Dragon ride again on the winds of time!
... Wait, cylons?
- viserov, on 07/28/2008, -2/+32I love BSG, but the Baltar subplot this season has been very annoying to me.
- Aadain, on 07/28/2008, -4/+8Really? I actually like it better than his subplot from season 3. I think its incredibly interesting and fresh. How many other shows take a serious look at a man creating a religion and coming to terms with being spiritual but flawed?
- SergeantSavage, on 07/28/2008, -0/+2I thought the whole baltar thing was kinda lame they went too in depth with it, but the rest of the show kicks ass.
- TNicholson, on 07/28/2008, -0/+2Image?
- Merp08, on 07/28/2008, -0/+13GIVE IT TO ME!! NOW.
- mizuhri, on 07/28/2008, -15/+5Fact: Bears eat beets..
Bears beat Battlestar Galactica.- shrednwail, on 07/28/2008, -1/+4At least get the quote right.
- mizuhri, on 07/29/2008, -1/+1What was wrong about it? I haven't got a chance to read the transcript...
- davidschuster, on 07/29/2008, -0/+1Bears . . . Beets . . . Battlestar Galactica.
- alaceiffel, on 07/28/2008, -2/+3why are people burying this comment!? BSG is great... the Office is great!
good job mizuhri! :)
- shrednwail, on 07/28/2008, -1/+4At least get the quote right.
- slaverynin, on 07/28/2008, -0/+21compared to most of the crap on TV nowadays BSG is still a great show no matter what season or episode you talk about.
- zadadka, on 07/28/2008, -2/+4For my own part, I still like to think that Doc Cottle is the Final....he displays the same Machiavellian calm as Bother Cavil (Dean Stockwell).
However, I do have to wonder about the brawl between Saul Tigh & Bill Adama......how could Adama have survived Tigh's venomous blows if he were not also a cylon himself.- GlitchEnzo, on 07/28/2008, -2/+1Um, I don't remember the Cylons ever displaying superhuman strength.
- zadadka, on 07/28/2008, -1/+2?
Metallic substructure strikes mere flesh & bone.....what outcome would you expect?
Tori striking Callie.....Callie flew across that airlock....Adama "flew" no further than if you struck me (please don't, 'cos I'm a wimp).
The again, I'll be happy ignoring all that & going back to Doc Cottle. - GlitchEnzo, on 07/28/2008, -0/+5What show have you been watching? They don't have a metallic substructure. This isn't Terminator. The skin-jobs are identical to humans in almost every single wawy.
- Oea420, on 07/28/2008, -1/+4Wrong. It's a mixed bag... sometimes we're shown cylons who are obviously able to perform beyond human limits (Six on New Caprica, Tori in the Airlock)
Other times we're shown that there's almost no difference between humans and cylon skin jobs..
I think the writers/show creators are UNSURE on the question themselves...
because looking at it you really get a mixed bag. - zadadka, on 07/28/2008, -0/+2Apologies....ENTIRELY my bad.
Quote :
"....the Cylons developed humanoid models of Cylon, nearly indistinguishable from real humans down to a cellular level..."
Unquote.
Thanks for the corrections. - txtphile, on 07/28/2008, -0/+2Don't forget when Leoben was getting Gitmoed by Starbuck. He broke his handcuffs, tossed a bolted-down steel table, and held his breath a long time.
- ConceptualTrap, on 07/28/2008, -0/+3I think that Cylons typically have the same strength as human beings but can channel into adrenaline surges a lot easier. Imagine it being like flicking a switch. For a human equivalent imagine people on PCP. With complete disregard for your body you can do a whole hell of a lot of damage.
That said, the fact that the cylons don't shatter their bones when they do some of this stuff could be writer's oversight. Then again, didn't we learn that cylons can shut off pain? At least some of them can? Or am I wrong about that? - Oea420, on 07/28/2008, -0/+2I don't know why I got dugg down.
It's pretty apparent the people behind the series did not decide in their own minds if cylon skin-jobs were more able than their human counterparts.. considering half the time they are (Tori single-handedly whacking Kylie ACROSS THE ROOM is a bit of a stretch, even for an adrenaline rush)
Leoban breaking handcuffs
New Caprica Six being the matrix embodied... etc
- zadadka, on 07/28/2008, -1/+2?
- altgeeky1, on 07/28/2008, -0/+5Yes, cylon skinjobs are NOT anatomically different than humans. They have the same strength.
They might have more instinct, or training, but they break the same way. - Pixelante, on 07/28/2008, -8/+0Skin-jobs... Are you the kind of people I read about in history books, who refer to colored people as "*****"?
- GlitchEnzo, on 07/28/2008, -2/+1Um, I don't remember the Cylons ever displaying superhuman strength.
- Abomonog, on 07/28/2008, -0/+3So it begins with nukes and secrets and ends with bullets and secrets. Isn't this supposed to happen the other way around? :)
- paidhima, on 07/28/2008, -0/+2Einstein did say: "I don't know with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."
Paraphrased, I think...- Abomonog, on 07/28/2008, -0/+1Who cares. Good point. And I think you actually got it pretty much right on.
- paidhima, on 07/28/2008, -0/+2Einstein did say: "I don't know with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."
- adrianscholl, on 07/28/2008, -2/+14Watch the video of the panel here: http://video.scifi.com/player/?id=279928
- zadadka, on 07/28/2008, -0/+1Frakkin' better post than I (and many others) could come up with.
Respects and Thanks.
- zadadka, on 07/28/2008, -0/+1Frakkin' better post than I (and many others) could come up with.
- zadadka, on 07/28/2008, -1/+2On the artillery thread, the "shock & awe" of a Galactica firing solution has remained one of the highlights of the whole series.
- gquaglia, on 07/28/2008, -1/+2Sorry, but nothing beat a wave motion gun, nothing.
- Kidddrunkadelic, on 07/28/2008, -1/+4"Filming the end of Battlestar was like being in Apocalypse Now."
I love the smell of kamala in the morning. - SirBruce, on 07/28/2008, -11/+3Season 1.0 was like WOW.
Season 2.0 was like, what? This is getting weird.
Season 2.5 was like, AWESOME!
Season 3.0 was a few good episodes at first and then it got REALLY weird.
Season 3.5 was crap save for Baltar's trial episode.
Razor was like, hey, remember how cool Season 2.5 was?
Season 4.0 has been nothing but crap.
I expect Season 4.5 to be more crap. - jerryterhorst, on 07/28/2008, -1/+5anyone else putting like every article in the speed reader?
- opethlike, on 07/28/2008, -0/+2 I can see some sort of firefox plugin in the future.
- Heymbit, on 07/28/2008, -0/+10Hey, why is no one asking the most important question:
Where can we see this trailer? - BushIs12thCylon, on 07/28/2008, -4/+2Hah. I'll never tell you who the final Cylon is.
- viserov, on 07/28/2008, -0/+3How long have you been waiting to post that comment with that username?
- GoteamVenture, on 07/28/2008, -2/+2I wish I could get excited about this, but there's been so many bad soap opera type episodes in season 3 and this current season that I've pretty much given up on BSG. It's too bad, because the first couple seasons were epic.
- Andrwmorph, on 07/28/2008, -3/+1I couldn't get into it after the first season. It felt too melodramatic to me.
- zip000, on 07/28/2008, -2/+2One thing that struck me about BSG recently, is that, even though I really, really love the show - I almost certainly will never watch any of the episodes again. It's similar to Lost in that it really depends on the overarching story arch - i.e. not really very episodic at all. I really enjoy this, but it does cut down on the re-watching factor for me...unless I'm re-watching the whole series or the whole season at least.
- Protoss, on 07/28/2008, -0/+1SciFi made RDM change it for Season 3, and look how that turned out. BSG HAS to be one of those shows with a huge story-arc, otherwise it ends up with crappy episodes about nothing.
- zadadka, on 07/28/2008, -0/+2Ep 01x01... "33".
Like many episodes, this can be watched in isolation again & again.
But, hey, YMMV, and your loss.
- FreeTalkLIve, on 07/28/2008, -5/+3I am just glad that it's ending.
Bring on Stargate Universe!- gquaglia, on 07/28/2008, -0/+1I'm still waiting for Atlantis to get better. I'm getting kind of tired of the whole alien organism takes over member of the crew plot line (with the exception of the Goauld, they don't count) that we've seen about 50 times in the Stargate franchise.
- nhansen, on 07/28/2008, -0/+1After major disappointment with the last half of season three (soooo not impressed with them bringing Starbuck back - her story was such a bore and too over-the-top) I haven't bothered with season 4.
- cgruber, on 07/28/2008, -0/+1***spoiler***
everyone dies - jhandfield, on 07/28/2008, -0/+1Those symbols on the page are called 'letters'. Groups of these letters form objects called 'words', collectively called 'text'.
In other words, this isn't an image, sorry. Though to be fair, there are images included in the text, so you get partial credit. - GenghisTom, on 07/28/2008, -5/+1I was way into BSG after season 3, but in season 4 they just took all the potential and flushed it down the drain. First, when the final four Cylons are revealed, there's a whole TEN MINUTES where the rest of the crew is trying to deal with it, and then all is forgiven. Granted, they showed the way to Earth, but it still isn't realistic. People would have felt betrayed, and un-trusting even after this. However, it was like one big happy family afterward. Also, in the final scene on Earth, they show that the planet is a ruined, irradiated shell of its former self. Seriously? We're gonna build a great Sci-Fi series and an enormous fan base for years, and then the big reveal is going to be that its just one more "Post Nuclear Apocalypse" Sci-Fi story? Not to mention the lost opportunity for viral marketing: they could have had Earth be the current time, and then place viral "ads" around big cities, like the crew had landed and was in hiding. $$$ Cha-ching!
What you are left with is a now unrealistic cast, and tired out genre, and no real draw for the rest of the series. The only real draw left is finding out who the final cylon is, but with nothing of the crew's livelihood invested in this, what does it matter?
BSG: A lesson in how- and how not- to make a sci-fi story.- BattleChimp, on 07/29/2008, -0/+2dude, bsg IS a post nuclear apocalypse story... dont you understand the plot? cylons nuked the 12 colonies homie g
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