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- mikephimikephi, on 05/28/2008, -14/+1332009 comment on digg...
"Windows 7 is terrible! I'm sticking with the stability of Vista. At least it doesn't hog all my RAM and I know that it will run any game flawlessly and all devices work thanks to the complete driver set" - MasterRex, on 05/28/2008, -35/+146Kind of ***** stupid in my opinion. This video reminds me of a car salesman trying to sell a car by it's vanity - look at the pretty *****, but not under the hood. Windows 7 better be re-built from the ground up or it's going to be another Vista.
- KMartSheriff, on 05/28/2008, -33/+138Am I the only one totally underwhelmed by the multi-touch stuff? I mean it's awesome and all, and I would love using it, but for now how about just working on under the hood improvements?
- RandoTheKing, on 05/28/2008, -25/+127Why the hell would I want touch features? I couldn't standing having to clean my monitor every 1 hour.
USELESS - xcalybur, on 05/28/2008, -7/+84Sounds like Microsoft has some great features planned for their next version of Windows, but wait... Longhorn had some great features as well. Most of those features were pulled and we were told that they would be coming later. Have we seen them?
Then I think these Windows 7 features are going bye bye as well. Either that or they'll just screw it up again and make a cool feature useless. - latova, on 05/28/2008, -14/+83WE'LL DO IT LIVE, CANCEL OR ALLOW?
- perhapsimcrazy, on 05/28/2008, -47/+95You know what pisses me off about Digg sometimes... at least 75% of you use windows in one form or another and there is SO much hate for it, for no significant reason. Sure, Vista has some flaws, but with Service Pack 1 it is perfectly usable, as I am doing right now. I'm running an Inspiron Notebook from Dell, equivocal to cutting my legs off with a chainsaw according to some people on this website, runing Vista Business, and unsurprisingly it runs Vista just fine. I am a power user, im not Grandpa playing Solitaire, and I expect this new operating system to even further improve on the baseline (and fix the flaws) of Vista.
People just jump on the complaining bandwagon instead of looking at innovation and how Microsoft is trying to implement features in their operating system to compete with Apple and stay ahead in the market. Of course they look like Microsoft Surface, but that sucker is more innovative than anything I have seen coming out of Apple in the past few years. Sure they make things smaller and sleaker, but what since the Ipod has been truely groundbreaking or interesting. Apparently the only thing the Air is good for is cutting bread.
I've used all three of the big hitters (Windows(Vista/XP/Previous Ediitons), OSX, and a Gentoo Linux install) and honestly if I had to choose I would take the Windows road. If I had to make pretty pictures or wanted to prove some point by buying superexpensive white hardware, OSX would be the road I would go. Other than that, and with 85% of the known world, I have known and used Windows for a long time, and it has been a hell of a lot worse than it is right now (windows ME). It all goes back to the functionality and the past. Since OSX conception, I wont argue that Apple has a decent operating system, but where were all you fanboys before? Last time i checked, playing DOOM on your PC (ignoring the classic mac users, who are just weird.) PC's aren't going away anytime soon, Vista is just a corporate speed bump that I think Microsoft is getting over as we speak.
Grow a pair and quit complaining so your friends think you are cool by "fighting the norm." - fluidfoundation, on 05/28/2008, -6/+52Operating Systems. You're doing it wrong.
- MuffinFlavored, on 05/28/2008, -11/+55Force the 64-bit change.
Pull a Mac OS X.
No backwards support.
Completely re-do. - teh_techie, on 05/28/2008, -3/+44No, I'm very underwhelmed! Why the hell would I want to smudge up my ***** laptop screen with my greasy sausage fingers? I prefer to grease up the mouse and keyboard.
THAT SCREEN BETTER BE SELF-CLEANING! - inactive, on 05/28/2008, -1/+39I wish all these multi-touch videos would show something different than maps, painting 5-10 stripes in paint, and making twirls on a screensaver - can't we use the multi-touch for something better?
- oldhick, on 05/28/2008, -4/+41I think its important to remember that "multi-touch" is just one feature in Windows 7. It will be deployed in mobile solutions and kiosks first. Ultimately the strategic vision may be for multi-touch to take off on all systems, the tactical move is reach the "low hanging fruit" ASAP. So you won't be pulling into your cube in the morning and tapping your monitor just yet.
On another note, this article blows or the submitter blows. The title should have read "One feature of Windows 7 Revealed". - saleem, on 05/28/2008, -4/+36I dont know why, I am completely underwhelmed. Multitouch is 50% just a gimmick. Why would I want to do that with pictures all day. You know, I do things on computers other than multi-touch manipulate pictures.
- marnaq, on 05/28/2008, -4/+36I have yet to see a decent application of multitouch that does not involve resizing and rotating pictures.
- talonstriker, on 05/28/2008, -4/+35Multitouch features don't mean much for PCs. I think that feature is aimed at businesses for providing an interface for their sw to customers.
- junaru, on 05/28/2008, -8/+32DO NOT WANT!
- shadow54682, on 05/28/2008, -7/+30Forget that, I'll stick with XP
- plainandsimple, on 05/28/2008, -6/+28Direct link to video of Microsoft's multi-touch implementation in action : http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=en-US&playlist ...
- Jalh, on 05/28/2008, -13/+34looks more like Microsoft surface
- wannapiece, on 05/28/2008, -1/+22ya think?
"...which takes many of its roots from Microsoft's Surface Table." - fuckingusername, on 05/28/2008, -14/+34code name Vista ME
- jazzmann04, on 05/28/2008, -6/+25Touch is a cool concept, no doubt, but I really don't think that we need it on our computers yet. I mean, come on, how do you expect me to play WoW?
- vinnyvenus, on 05/28/2008, -7/+25Why would I use my whole hand on multi-touch laptop when I can use my finger or mouse in ordinary laptop. I mean I will loose more energy using my whole hand instead of a finger. I guess I am too lazy.
- dig1x, on 05/28/2008, -5/+23You're utterly clueless. Vista's problem was that all the work **IS** under the hood.
Vista is an exceptionally secure and stable OS. Major portions of the "Under the hood" elements are totally new.
They didnt make many radical changes to the UI, and that is why people dont "get" Vista. But, here you are, just literally inventing FUD as you go.
And, your score is +62 - I am just astounded that Digg can be so clueless. - Stavrosian, on 05/28/2008, -14/+32Interesting use of the term "upgraded" there.
- dsmx, on 05/28/2008, -11/+28But this being microsoft about half the features in windows 7 will be cut, a quarter won't work and the remaining ones will be useless.
- angrykeyboarder, on 05/28/2008, -25/+42That looks pretty damn cool. But if that's all were gonna see in Windows 7, I'll stick with Vista.
I'd rather keep my hands on the keyboard and mouse (most of the time).
But then, they didn't show us any typical stuff anyway (web browsing, email, word processing).
I suspect that is unchanged and if so, I'll definitely stick with Vista (when I use it that is - I spend most of my time in Linux).
I hope (for MS' sake) that we see more of the features that were initially promised for Vista (like WinFS and TRULY worthwhile search). It is quite early at this stage, so I'm sure more is coming.
Meanwhile, I'll spend most of my time in Linux. - theaceoffire, on 05/28/2008, -4/+20It needs to be rebuilt to make it easier to maintain, faster to patch, and easier to improve on in the future.
Windows OS's right now are FILLED with all kinds of old/redundant code that shoots the OS up to dual layer DVD territory. - NeoCortex, on 05/28/2008, -7/+23Clean it every hour? What are you touching exactly? No, wait. I don't want to know.
- ttam, on 05/28/2008, -7/+22Was I supposed to be impressed?
- theaceoffire, on 05/28/2008, -4/+19I am just reminded of all the little things that got dropped from Vista that we were so eager for. Are they fixing/improving/replacing ntfs?
- inactive, on 05/28/2008, -6/+20Kinda of reminds me of the OS that Macs use. Actually that's the first thing that popped into my mind when I say the video. Then when they showed touch and multi-touch i was like ,, huhh... Iphone.
PS: I have WINXP installed on my laptop and dont' own a mac. - borez, on 05/28/2008, -6/+20Pair this with a 3D holographic interface and I'm sold.
- Sk8SkaNJ, on 05/28/2008, -4/+17Yeah and the iPhone/touch was the first thing to ever have a touch screen
/sarcasm - estvir, on 05/28/2008, -10/+23Apple didn't invent it.
Person pretends Apple invented something again. News at 11. - khail250, on 05/28/2008, -4/+16That one "S" in the subject line, sure makes a difference!
- IphtashuFitz, on 05/28/2008, -3/+14Windows is STILL a monolithic product with obsolete code, redundant code, etc. I'm sure if you looked through the source code you'd still find references to Windows 95 and possibly even Windows 3.x and/or DOS. But more importantly the overall architecture is fundamentally flawed. It has its roots as a single-user OS that was twisted & pulled in various directions and features slapped onto it in order to make it support multiple users as well as maintaining backward compatibility with every previous version of Windows. I have software I wrote back in the early 90's on Windows 3.x using Visual C++ 1.5 that still runs on XP, 2000, and Vista despite the fact that the code can't compile with their current compilers. It's for these reasons that Windows suffers from an estimated 70,000+ viruses while viruses in Apple's OS-X, linux, solaris, etc. are virtually zero. Don't give me the BS that there are more Windows viruses simply because Windows is more popular. True, that's part of it, but it's mainly because Windows is fundamentally insecure due to its architecture. They need to do what Apple did years ago and scrap the entire OS and rebuild it from the ground up to be a secure multi-user networked environment. Apple may have adopted BSD unix as their platform of choice but that doesn't mean MS needs to. They could certainly write a totally new from-the-ground-up version of Windows that's highly secure and easy to use if they really wanted to. The problem is they're afraid of alienating their user base since it would break a lot of existing applications and most certainly do away with any backward compatibility whatsoever.
- TheTSArt, on 05/28/2008, -4/+15Didn't Microsoft show off Surface right before the iPhone's debut? So choosing to show Win 7 touch now, so close to WWDC, I wonder if they're expecting something more from Apple?
- jcannonb, on 05/28/2008, -9/+20The problem for Microsoft is, OS/X already has multi-touch built into it now. All Apple has to do is add a touch screen to every LCD they make, and its all, already complete. There is no more R&D to be done. Apple has them by the balls with Multi-touch type interfaces if they don't drop the ball.
- apothekari, on 05/28/2008, -2/+13I use touchscreen monitors at my job, unless they redesign a special monitor surface that's more immune to fingertip oils + the various other things people get on their hands while computing {eating lunch, looking up a how-to on the net and fixing a greasy car/motorcycle part} both of which I have done when my printer was out of ink-You're gonna be buying a new monitor more often than you realize.
Glass crt's would be better for this type of thing oddly enough but we've all switched over to lcd!
Cool idea on the "surface" but in practice like the ones at my work they are a pain in the ass!
I'll stay with the good ol' mouse for now thank you. - bleutuna, on 05/28/2008, -1/+12What's wrong with you people? How can you not see the potential for a true multi-touch operating system?
I've read numerous comments that complain multi-touch is useless without applications designed for it - well guess what, there WILL be applications designed for it. Is that even a question? seriously?
That's like saying, "A mouse is useless without applications designed for it!" This is obvious and not even a matter for discussion. MS and other partners *will* make amazing applications that utilize touch technology.
Some of us want a better way to interact without machines. Something that works faster, quicker, and is far more accurate than just a mouse and keyboard. I can only imagine the amazingness of using Photoshop with Surface technology. About having *actual* paintbrushes for painting, versus having to use a mediocre Wacom tablet and dealing with the disconnect and spacial differences that accompany it.
I'll gladly upgrade my monitor, without a doubt. A release like this would make me buy a Windows computer again, rather than just running it through VMWare on my Mac. I can only imagine how badass it will be to get to files, how i can easily page through things like a book...the possibilities are endless and exciting.
MS just showed us the very beginning of the future of computer. Star Trek, Minority Report and Iron Man - remember when you saw these computer interactions and said, "Holy crap...that's awesome!" Well, welcome to the first step. When MS gets this polished, and trust me, they will, then well all be working faster, more effeciently, and the use of a mouse and keyboard will be akin to using a rock and chisel for writing.
+1 to Microsoft for understanding this important next step in computer and interface interaction. - Phyltre, on 05/28/2008, -2/+13EXTERMINATE, EXTERMINAAAATE!!!
- lacronicus, on 05/28/2008, -2/+12WinFS was not a file system, but an indexing system for NTFS that basically turned into windows search.
- inactive, on 05/28/2008, -11/+21FEATURES FEATURES FEATURES
- bbear, on 05/28/2008, -6/+16If usable is your only requirement for an OS then why did you ever upgrade from Windows XP? Was XP unusable for you?
I used Vista and found it to be usable too. Usable like XP but slightly slower. Usable like XP after everyone turned off UAC of course. Usable if I never wanted my PC to sleep which Microsoft finally fixed a year later with SP1. Usable like XP unless you had a Soundblaster card or some other hardware with crap drivers.
So for $220 you bought a less usable Windows XP with a better looking interface. Was it worth it? Since every major feature of Vista was removed before release day is the ability to hit Start button and then type the name of the app you want to open worth $220 to you? Then you should know that Apple has had this feature for 3 years now and they charge $120. - theaceoffire, on 05/28/2008, -2/+12This is the feature cut that I was most interested in: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WinFS
Here is some stuff cut from Vista that used to be in XP: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Features_removed_from ... - IllBeBack, on 05/28/2008, -2/+12Oh, please let it be CANCEL.
- Daniel0, on 05/28/2008, -2/+11If you haven't used Windows for several years then how are you able to comment on whether Vista sucks or not?
Perhaps you should actually use time with the OS before trying to review it? - Tyr7BE, on 05/28/2008, -2/+11I'm willing to bet if they put a pretentious glowing Apple on the back of that laptop, and did everything else exactly the same, all these kids who are sneering at this would lose their *****, simultaneously. Just wait until Apple unveils multitouch in their laptops. Guaranteed, it will be the most dugg story in all of Digg history, and anyone who goes half as far as some of these comments have gone to put this technology down will be mercilessly mocked and buried. Same features, same capabilities (possibly fewer), different logo.
Personally I think there's nothing wrong with this multitouch stuff. A well-designed laptop would give you a keyboard and a mini microsoft Surface. I think it's a great idea. - alen3K, on 05/28/2008, -7/+16you mean 2014 comment
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