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- benologist, on 11/25/2008, -7/+42The house ain't broken.
- YodaJones, on 11/24/2008, -4/+30You mean like he saved Lotus? Everybody loves Lotus products.
- lochness, on 11/25/2008, -9/+3290% market share = broken :- ???
M$ makes more PROFIT in a week than Apple makes TURNOVER in a month.
Broken.... me thinks NOT... - deaftly, on 11/25/2008, -5/+28Lets see, Windows is still making a ***** load of money, MS still owns the office and now they have Xbox. Yeah... I don't think they need fixing, except for my broken 360.
WAKKA WAKKA - KenLark, on 11/25/2008, -4/+19I make my living on Windows and while I prefer Mac, Microsoft has a role to play and will be around for awhile. I wish Ray the best of luck.
- Jon211, on 11/25/2008, -4/+16Lotus Notes is one of the most God awful pieces of ***** I've ever had the misfortune to work with.
I thought it was bad enough just using it, but then I had to do some development for it, I shudder to even think about it now. - Smurph0404, on 11/25/2008, -5/+14Who says they need fixing?
- inajeep, on 11/25/2008, -1/+10He came up with Lotus Notes which is still being used heavily. It may have been misguided over the years with IBM's marketing WebSphere with it and hasn't evolved as well as it could but then again he's not driving it any more. Technically the software was really ahead of it's time. Design, data replication and a database framework for applications that allowed developing custom applications at a time when there wasn't much available that allowed software such configuration by the actual users or IT group. If you equate Lotus Notes to just an email product then you have a case because it was never designed to be just an email system. It handled workflow apps and web sites and could be built quicker than most development systems. Now it's finally getting a linux client and a nice usage upgrade in r8.
Disclaimer: My livelihood is developing Lotus Notes apps so I may be a tad bit biased.
Thank you Ozzie if you ever read this, your creation got me out of tech support aka phone room and into an IT career. - TheMachine1, on 11/25/2008, -1/+8I can fix it I need a paper clip, roll of duct tape, case of empty beer bottles, 100 yards of kite string, 38 grams osmium and $34.00 in US nickels.
- deaftly, on 11/25/2008, -7/+13Zune > iPod
douche. - strictnein, on 11/25/2008, -0/+6The Xbox division is making money now. The 360 just outsold the original Xbox. Xbox Live/Arcade/etc is a killer, ongoing profit stream that will only expand over the coming years. Sounds like a great thing to dump... or not.
In actuality, the 360 is a great example of where MS is going. Sell an up front product, and then provide products and services around that product that the consumer will be spending money on for years to come. - erfonh, on 11/25/2008, -2/+7Didn't realize they needed a saviour...
- inajeep, on 11/25/2008, -3/+8Is this your impression or do you have some comparison numbers to back up your suggestions?
- Scott2, on 11/25/2008, -10/+14"Still, Ozzie draws the line at the idea that you can do anything and everything in the cloud, that every application can become Web-based, that the desktop is dead. Some things, he says, still require local computation, offline persistence, and the control that only one's own desktop processor offers."
Finally, someone with some common sense, even if he is a bit crazy:
"I love Windows, because without it there would be no PC. There would be no PC developers. There might not even be a Web."
Um, no. - natenovs, on 11/25/2008, -0/+4no - they cant all be done in the cloud - becuase i dont have access to the internet all the time. the cloud should be used for storage, sharing, and collaboration - it should back local software, not be the software.
- Darkyuubi, on 11/26/2008, -0/+3thank god your not running microsoft.
- jer21, on 11/25/2008, -1/+4You're the type of person that puts all their money in their mattress aren't you?
It's called diversifying...try it once in a while. - inactive, on 11/25/2008, -10/+13Aside from Vista (a profitable failure) Microsoft is doing fine. Their cloud strategy and upcoming Windows 7 release looks promising. Even during a down economy Microsoft is moving forward.
- UltraMegaFilms, on 11/25/2008, -4/+7I make my living on Mac and while I prefer Windows, Apple has a role to play and I wish they would stop shaking people down for their hardware, maintaining a dictatorial role over the use of their products, and stop pretending like they are the only ones capable of making a good computer. There are a lot of people who would be open to the idea of taking Apple more seriously if they weren't so smug and vain. I wish that kid from Die Hard the best of luck.
- Technopundit, on 11/26/2008, -0/+2iPods are for girls.
- cthellis, on 11/25/2008, -0/+2Considering Ray Ozzie left the IBM-acquired Lotus in 1997 to form his own company...
Up to the mid-90's, Lotus was pretty much top-notch, ahead of it's time, and had majority marketshare.
The real nosedive for Lotus has been pretty recent, and well after IBM took the reins and Ozzie took his leave. - Barackalypse, on 11/25/2008, -1/+3"REDMOND, Wash. — January 24, 2008 — Microsoft Corp. today announced second quarter records for revenue, operating income and diluted earnings per share of $16.37 billion, $6.48 billion and $0.50, respectively. Compared to the year ago period, these figures represent growth of 30%, 87% and 92% for revenue, operating income and diluted earnings per share, respectively.
Looks like he retroactively succeeded, 30% revenue growth for a company the size of Microsoft is amazing.
http://www.microsoft.com/Presspass/press/2008/jan0 ... - mk3k, on 11/25/2008, -1/+3I'm a Systems Admin and if people wrote good software I wouldn't have a job or it would be part time.
So programmers keep f'ing things up.
Thanks. - Technopundit, on 11/26/2008, -0/+1MMMMmmmmmmm ... Apple TURNOVER!
- Darkyuubi, on 11/26/2008, -0/+1The beauty of it is that if developers play their cards right, people won't even know that their information and processing capacity is being sent to the cloud.
The ultimate vision is to have a desktop front backed by the cloud. No one ever said you will use an operating system in a web browser... - Darkyuubi, on 11/26/2008, -0/+1did you...not read the article?
- jejones, on 11/26/2008, -0/+1I'm sure that's what buggy whip makers told themselves right up to the end.
- Ratteler, on 11/27/2008, -0/+1They'll know the moment the "cloud" is inaccessible. I really don't want to rely on processing power I don't own. Both for security, and stability.
- inactive, on 11/25/2008, -3/+4"There are a lot of people who would be open to the idea of taking Apple more seriously if they weren't so smug and vain."
Straight up. I think it comes from an inferiority complex, though. Apple users kind of remind me of the Goth kids who try to convince themselves that it's actually their little group that are the cool ones and everyone else who are the real losers. - Myztry, on 11/26/2008, -0/+1Lotus Notes was available domestically in Australia priced at AU$5 for years in many computer shops.
I doubt Microsoft would do well in the bargain bin, and I think that about sums it up... - Technopundit, on 11/26/2008, -0/+1You mean Netscape and AOL?
- mk3k, on 11/25/2008, -1/+2.../arcade/etc?
Isn't that a Linux folder? - Olfster, on 11/25/2008, -0/+1How about a shareholder? Not to mention anyone that had Vista,err Mojave, stuffed down their throat.
- Technopundit, on 11/26/2008, -0/+1WAY too old.
- crazysamz, on 11/25/2008, -1/+1I really hope that Ray is who they've been waiting for to put into place after Gates left, but if he's not going to be able to even present himself at a press conference or an event, then I don't see how he can really be the figurehead for Microsoft. You really need to have someone who can present themselves, their company and any of their products. Either he needs to figure out how to present himself in front of people in a conference room, or he won't do a very good job when it comes to Microsoft's PR and their appearance as a company. He needs to get over his tremendous anxiety and represent the company he leads, which is a hard thing to do, but once he can overcome something like that, Microsoft can tackle anything that comes in their path and create something better than what the competition has to offer.
- infimprob, on 11/25/2008, -1/+1@Jon211
It's the concept if you wanted to fix the errors in the program you could and the program didn't seek to take liberties with your files or anything else. - truck87bp, on 11/26/2008, -2/+2MS lost their free support with Vista...when friends ask me for help, I tell them I can't if its Vista.
XP, No Problemo. - thecreative, on 11/25/2008, -2/+2I make my living with a bulldozer and drive a Toyota. And still i get the feeling that all software is as reliable as pinto. Good luck to users who have virus, crasher computers and slowdowns.
- KevinJim, on 11/25/2008, -2/+2The only way to make MS go down is to place Balmer as CEO, wait...
- robdolin, on 12/16/2008, -0/+0I've really enjoyed using http://www.mesh.com/
- seventhc, on 11/25/2008, -1/+1Edit *new ideas
I ran out of time to edit it. sorry. - cthellis, on 11/25/2008, -1/+1The 360 hasn't yet paid off for them, though. In fact, they're many, MANY billions in the whole, so it's unknown how many more "years to come" will have to come before they get the project in the black.
Meanwhile, they're finding out that instead of Nintendo offering dying competition, they're resurging to cause the MOST competition, so MS now has to compete with Sony above them and Nintendo below them, and try to make profit in-between while competing with them both.
So far they price competition has come from taking a huge dive on hardware for two generations, and while they've built up a strong service in Xbox Live, it's still being pressed by free alternatives as well, and hasn't shown itself to be strong enough yet to overcompensate for the hardware loss. (Bear in mind the division only shows a profit because they wrote off the extra cash for warranty replacements in one lump sum in the beginning, which--if it were spread out evenly through the quarters--would have kept things profitless.)
So what is their continued gameplan? Do they keep pushing to make the generations faster, which cuts down on the 360 profit cycle and runs the risk of another red-ring debacle? Do they keep trying to offer top-end hardware and compete with Nintendo's lower-end systems (now with a built-in, enormous audience), which necessitates taking large hardware losses, or do they aim lower to cut down on hardware loss and lose top-end distinguishing features to Sony?
What happens if both Nintendo and Sony get their act together and offer online services that equal or rival Live, but continue to offer it free, while the Xboxes are now simply seen as "having a subscription fee attached?" (It's not like online features have a "sky's the limit" number of offerings or capabilities without losing a whole lot more profit there, too, so it's more catch-up work than "momentum will always keep you ahead.")
The Xbox endeavor still has years to go and about 10 billion in PROFIT to make before it really "proves itself" as an overall model to pursue. - ex67v, on 11/25/2008, -1/+0I concur with Jon211. When our company switched to Lotus Notes for email in 2000 or so we experienced a noticeable productivity decrease. Making everyone change from fast POP3/SMTP email apps to the slow, monolithic, closed architecture Lotus Bloats email was simply horrific. Simple things like routing incoming email based on subject or sender became orders of magnitude more difficult. Even when you did get the routing set up properly, it turned out to be unreliable.
The icing on the cake was that apparently the CEO had made this deal to take us to Lotus Notes while schmoozing with the Lotus rep on the golf course. The funny part: the CEO reportedly never even used email... He would have his secretary print out his email, he'd mark it up and have her enter his edits and send them.
Since I left in 2004 the company has nosedived... stock that had been as high as 130 was trading at 3 last time I checked... and that's after a 10 to 1 reverse split.
Lotus Notes was one of a number of Fine Decisions by inept executive management. God what a piece of crap. - yakimushi, on 11/25/2008, -2/+1Wait, wait, wait... this guy created Lotus Notes? That abortion? The worst office productivity app I've ever had the misfortune of using?
I actually feel kind of bad for Microsoft. - Br3ach, on 11/25/2008, -3/+2I think we've already seen MS begin to refresh its image a bit, with the new ads and some slick up and coming products. MS was never broken, but I think it did get a little lost in itself for a few years while Bill removed himself and things shifted, and dealing with the fallout of Vista
- adamdigg, on 11/25/2008, -2/+1"It is about time that the [...] creator of Lotus Notes, emerges from the shadows."
I had assumed it was spawned directly by the forces of evil. If he emerges in my vicinity, he'll pay for the abomination he has wrought. (My job includes not only using Notes, but writing "HTML" to be rendered in it.) - BabyWookie, on 11/25/2008, -4/+3LOL. That's really funny!
- Jon211, on 11/25/2008, -2/+1Oh, I fully agree that it's very well architected and designed.
It's just the the experience of using it is so damn painful it completely counteracts all of the good bits. - diggafrica, on 11/25/2008, -5/+4Microsoft needs no CPR!
- LoveLikeRockets, on 11/25/2008, -2/+1/sarcasm
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