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- NeoSporin, on 06/11/2009, -5/+145The flaw isn't within the operating system, it's within the user who opens up "FreeXXXMoneyCasino.exe" and then complains about Windows being virus-ridden.
- mobilebond, on 06/11/2009, -4/+105Everything free is welcomed! hoping it won't be useless.
- krystalo, on 06/11/2009, -12/+75They already do that. They're just offering yet another layer. It's free. Why are you complaining again?
- scooterbaga, on 06/11/2009, -14/+77Whoa, whoa, slow down there champ. Take a deep breath and try to make some sense.
- annjay, on 06/11/2009, -12/+64I would really love to try anti-virus solution from Microsoft as soon as it will be released.
- alexgdorman, on 06/11/2009, -26/+66Actually, the only thing wrong with Windows is the sheer number of viruses out there. OSX and Linux aren't really "more secure", there are just hardly any viruses out there that target them.
- LeftsideChaos, on 06/11/2009, -2/+39Ill try it, but it'd hard to compete with Nod32.
- HardSide, on 06/11/2009, -8/+39A virus does not mean there is a problem with the OS...
- nyteflyte, on 06/11/2009, -1/+29Still. A smart user is better than any AV software out there, just saying. :)
- deviantsteve, on 06/11/2009, -1/+28Most issues start with the user.
- PleaseJustDie, on 06/11/2009, -3/+29@Hermmunster
Actually, anti-virus software quality varies greatly and is usually poorer in my experience among the big companies than it is in the smaller ones.
I've fixed countless computers that have Norton or McAfee updated on it and say no virus found after a scan only to have several found by pc-cillan or AVG.
Virus infection is one of the leading distribution methods for malware/adware/spyware. A virus infects your computer and spreads to infect thousands and then companies spread their software through the infected network.
Keeping virii off your computer is important no matter who you are. Keeping your system up to date to block use of well known exploits helps and using secure browsers helps, but there are people out there stupid enough to download .exe files from random e-mails and run them and those people need virus scanners that sit in resident memory to keep them safe.
Kudos to Microsoft for making this attempt at keeping their user base safe. As long as I can disable it or install different AV software or opt to uninstall/not install this then I'm happy. - jrm125, on 06/11/2009, -5/+29A lot of naysayers here, but I'd be happy to see how this does. If done right (and MS has been showing signs of life lately) this really could be a good job.
I imagine this would have to be downloaded seperately (optionally) so as to avoid monopolistic practices ala IE? - pyrates, on 06/11/2009, -1/+25FTA:
"Microsoft's free product is basically a stripped down version of the OneCare product Microsoft pulled from the shelves," said Symantec Consumer division president Janice Chaffin. "A full Internet security suite is what consumers require today to stay fully protected."
No a full security suite won't protect consumers from being stupid on the internet. It will only slow down their internet and computers. Plus now that you run as a regular user on vista and soon windows 7, that also protects you way more then these security suites ever did. - whiledo, on 06/11/2009, -2/+24I think your keyboard has a virus.
- shadebane, on 06/11/2009, -7/+28Since PC/windows machines basically have infinite amount of software and hardware configurations they are due to have some weaknesses. If you want total security then give up most freedoms and use a Mac.
Personally I havent had a virus since Win98 and enjoy being able to throw just about any kind of hardware in my case. Deal with it sucker! - whiledo, on 06/11/2009, -8/+27Well, not really the only thing. The main problem with windows is the lack of separation of administrative and user roles. This makes it FAR easier for flaws in a program to allow complete pwnage of the entire system. It's a hard problem to fix, though, as there is a vast number of users who will never get the concept and will be stuck with everything having the same rights.
However, they COULD do some things to fix it. Even experienced and knowledgeable windows users wind up running their regular account as admin because the OS is designed to get in your way if you don't. - jp3550, on 06/11/2009, -2/+20He didn't say a free troll.
- HardSide, on 06/11/2009, -1/+19Nod32 = Few resources = Works fine with full screen games = Always up to date
If more programs were as good as Nod32, people wouldnt be "pirating" software. - MichaelCorleone, on 06/11/2009, -53/+70Wait, they're writing a separate program to protect the flaws in their operating systems? Why not just fix the flaws in the operating systems?
- roxgod666, on 06/11/2009, -2/+16Windows XP is less secure than Vista and especially Windows 7.
- inactive, on 06/11/2009, -1/+15I love mac users who don't grasp the irony of recommending everyone get a mac because they're less prone to malware, when if everyone did own a mac, they wouldn't be,
- jorel009, on 06/11/2009, -0/+12regular users can't be trusted to use common sense or free anti viruses. support calls I take go like this: "oh noes, a window telling me I am infected, and it looks just like my pc (looks like xp, yet they are on vista...wtf), so I installed the antivirus 2010! 90% of users need a security suite like trend micro, or Norton.....it's the price to pay for stupidity.
- dougbarrett, on 06/11/2009, -3/+15I'm excited about this because I work for a non-profit so any antivirus we can use for free for "corporate use" is good for me!
- ArthurSucks, on 06/11/2009, -1/+12Congratulations! You've submitted the stupidest comment on Digg to date! Take a bow!
- FredFredrickson, on 06/11/2009, -3/+14I wouldn't recommend Mac as a "total security" solution. I'd recommend it as a "you don't know how the hell to surf the internet safely, so you should spend an extra $2k on a computer instead" solution instead.
- sauron256, on 06/11/2009, -2/+12Are you still here?
- provosteng, on 06/11/2009, -0/+9That's funny because I think at pwn to own OSX got its ass kicked first... both times. The blackhat said OSX does not have the preventative measures that Windows has, making OSX much easier to compromise.
What malware writers love are massive amounts of computer illiterate users and Windows, having 90% of the market, has that in spades. - 11oops, on 06/11/2009, -4/+13Well, since none of the comments being buried brought up any useful discussion or relevant debate I can understand why they're being buried.
/Typing on a mac, and yet apparently part of the 'bury brigade' - LeftsideChaos, on 06/11/2009, -8/+17prediction: you hit -100 diggs easy.
- RumpleForeskin3, on 06/11/2009, -0/+9Who's Will?
- SookIt, on 06/11/2009, -1/+10wow, lots of mac tards out in force today, keep buying those iphones u dumbasses
- shadebane, on 06/11/2009, -9/+17Windows defender was actually useful, i hope this turns out just as good. It seems Microsoft is actually working at fixing their "M$" rep lately. Ive been using win 7 RC since it was released and love it. Hopefully they don't make 10 flavors of win7 when the finale is released.
- inactive, on 06/11/2009, -0/+8I think your brain has a virus.
Where is this "Mac" and how do I buy from them. Do they take credit cards?
Oh and how have you observed this in a lab setting? WTF? - norman619, on 06/11/2009, -5/+13Why trust some cluless Digger?
- DarkStryke, on 06/11/2009, -1/+9If they did that, because they're not Apple they'd be hit with anti-trust allegations instantly.
- deviantsteve, on 06/11/2009, -1/+9Vista finally doesn't set you as admin by default.
- PleaseJustDie, on 06/11/2009, -2/+10@Louis your source is 5 years old man, that was around XP SP1? You need to get with the times.
- sh1tman, on 06/11/2009, -0/+7I can see you haven't read his post history.
- shadebane, on 06/11/2009, -0/+7Since PC/windows machines basically have infinite amount of software and hardware configurations they are due to have some weaknesses. If you want total security then give up most freedoms and use a Mac.
Personally I havent had a virus since Win98 and enjoy being able to throw just about any kind of hardware in my case. Deal with it sucker! - mabsark, on 06/11/2009, -1/+8Lets face it, they can't do any worse than either Symantec or McAfee when it comes to protecting home users.
- Dauntless1, on 06/12/2009, -0/+7@hermmunster
Pointing out the obvious is "Windows has more viruses."
Being ignorant is saying that because the biggest userbase has the most viruses it must be linked to the "quality" of the software somehow. - FredFredrickson, on 06/11/2009, -0/+6As long as it doesn't ship on the Windows disc, they won't have much of an argument.
- belebih, on 06/11/2009, -3/+9I haven't needed a third party firewall since they improved the Windows Firewall in Vista, so if they get the AV right then hopefully that's one less third party program I need to worry about.
- shadebane, on 06/11/2009, -0/+6maybe due to the debug running in the background. Im a pretty hardcore gamer and frames have stayed about the same. Though i have a very high end system so that might have something to do with it.
- Dauntless1, on 06/12/2009, -0/+6@soopafly
They're called "users". - cawpin, on 06/11/2009, -0/+6And Norton Internet Security sure as hell isn't going on any PC I work on.
- cheddaro, on 06/11/2009, -1/+6It's easy to make any operating system virus proof.
Disconnect the keyboard, and unplug it from the network.
HAR HAR HAR! - MrSkills, on 06/11/2009, -1/+6Security via obscurity requires obscurity.
OS X and Linux may not be as popular as Windows but there are still millions upon millions of users. On the other hand, there have been plenty of platforms used by astronomically fewer people that have suffered from viruses.
Being less popular should certainly reduce exposure, but not to *this* extent. - FredFredrickson, on 06/11/2009, -0/+5He didn't say anything about how long the software has been around. He said more people use it, and thus, more people poke holes in it. Not that complicated, guy.
- devophl, on 06/11/2009, -2/+7There are people who can't resist opening these attachments. We had an employee who no matter how many times we told him not to open attachments, he did so anyway. And every week, we'd have to do some sort of corrective action from the damage done.
But there is an issue with the design of Windows. Windows went for user based access to everything and added a layer of neat functionality no other OS has. Sadly, these are the parts of the OS that are the most vulnerable to viruses and to eliminate them would cripple a lot of the additional functionality Windows offers. Personally, I'd say keep the functionality and teach people safe computing!! -
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