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- Senn, on 11/16/2007, -4/+41Adblock FTW.
- LordSeth, on 11/16/2007, -8/+38Well will Microsoft decide to focus on making good software rather than trying to dominate the world?
- Digg4all, on 11/16/2007, -1/+18YEAH!!! More ads to test my mad adblocking skills...
- inactive, on 11/16/2007, -4/+18If Microsoft wants in on Web Advertising dollars, here's what it needs to do:
1. Make "Live Spaces" more easily accessible, less ghetto looking, easier to customize. They should be looking at Blogger and Wordpress and learning from the cleaner templates there, and "open source" should not be a dirty word.
2. MSN home page is nice and professionally run. Get more people looking at that page and using it as a start page. It might be the only thing that Microsoft runs well right now.
3. Redo MSN Messenger to make it less bulky and buggy. Even a novice computer user knows the program runs like crap. The simpler the code is, the better. No one on the Internet is taken in by pure looks when load times and PC crashes are far more vital. If you make a good program, people will come.
4. I don't think there is a way to compete with Google in search, but MSN does have a good share of the market in search traffic. There's no reason why they can't partner up with someone doing something novel in search - check out the search engines that search search engines, or ask.com, and work from there. The MSN results are awful, my blog never shows up there, and it's going to be big and Microsoft will never know. - wedgemartin, on 11/16/2007, -0/+12Microsoft Golf was pretty cool.
- drlha, on 11/16/2007, -3/+14Never. Microsoft's aim is to dominate every market where a computer is used. If someone is making money off something computer related, then Microsoft simply must try to muscle into that market, throwing millions at it until they either get a foothold or give up. They've been doing this for years and I don't expect it to change.
- theinept, on 11/16/2007, -2/+10Concur with DavX's assessment minus the trolling. Vista's sales performance has been better than expected, the new Office is selling well and profit margins are up. Add Halo's excellent performance and this past quarter was a win in all departments. Improved top line, improved bottom line, improved margins and improved outlook. Microsoft isn't just making a ton of cash, it's growing at an unexpected rate.
The only places in the world where MS is in trouble are on Digg and in Apple users' deepest desires. - byttle, on 11/16/2007, -2/+9wish they would aim to be the top OS maker in overall quality...digg me down and i win my friends bet...
- meltingrobot, on 11/16/2007, -0/+7I thought Sega had already called it quits when MS came into the foray?
- DavX, on 11/16/2007, -4/+11Digg users just hate Microsoft. Don't worry, its not really all that justified in the end, they just don't have jobs and like to mess around with other OS's.
- lucidguru, on 11/16/2007, -3/+9I think it's wrong to assume that no one can beat google at it's own game. Microsoft did a great job at entering the video game market when nintendo sony and sega were all fiercely competing. It has not done such a bad job at fighting back against the ipod, and as far as OS is concerned... well that's another story. I dislike m$ as much as anyone for there monopolistic practices, however I would not yet count them out of the running.
- CraigJ, on 11/16/2007, -5/+11IMHO Microsoft should concentrate in building a better OS (better features, less bloat, less than 7 versions (way less)) and building better software in general. Steve Ballmer's obsession will killing Google is not going to take Microsoft anywhere.
- WolverineBlue, on 11/16/2007, -1/+7That's an interesting way of saying "Microsoft aims for #2 after it realizes it won't beat Google."
- BrandonMills, on 11/16/2007, -3/+9Fine, just don't wonder why your OS went to Hell when you shift your focus like this.
- inactive, on 11/16/2007, -1/+6that's because they have billions to throw at the 360 dude, how many companies, actually no, is there any other company that can do this?
- Teckla, on 11/16/2007, -0/+5I am actually very thankful that Digg decided to partner with Microsoft for ads.
The fact that the new Microsoft ads take much longer to load, plus the fact that many of them are downright obnoxious, was enough to push me over the edge and finally install Adblock Plus. Now my web browsing experience is much more pleasant.
Thanks, Digg! Thanks, Microsoft! - bralynn, on 11/16/2007, -2/+7I'm saluting Microsoft with *my* top two right now.
- inactive, on 11/16/2007, -0/+5they've done pretty well getting a good foothold in the vg market with the xbox even though they're at a loss with it
- inactive, on 11/16/2007, -6/+11Microsoft should do well in advertising.... if they've been able to peddle their Windows POS for all these years... well.. they could sell freezers to eskimos.
- inactive, on 11/16/2007, -0/+4what is this web advertising thing i keep hearing about?
- niceyuk, on 11/16/2007, -2/+6Throwing money at dominating every single area of computing until you put the competition out of business or decide to quit is not a good business strategy.
Picking your battles and entering the markets that make business sense is better than copying everything the competition are doing, just because they are doing it.
I suppose Microsoft has plenty of cash to burn, but its still not an efficient and good business strategy. - SSCrow, on 11/16/2007, -3/+6Its a good business strategy.
- AlanJV, on 11/16/2007, -1/+4Looks like Dvorak was right. Rather than concentrating on making their OS solid, they're worrying about trying to compete in the advertising sector. No wonder Vista sucks so much.
- Tuto, on 11/16/2007, -3/+6Can somebody explain me one thing ( i am not trying to be smart). Everybody seems to think that MS is in trouble, bad vista sales bad quality etc. How come they are still make so much money? As i understand they had some kind of record profit not long ago.
- geehossiphats, on 11/16/2007, -1/+4How do you try Vista?? Either you pay out the nose for it or dont use it at all.
- Slungsolow, on 11/16/2007, -3/+6I doubt microsoft actually cares as the whole point of wanting to be in the top two is to increase revenue based on their diverse business portfolio. If selling ads makes more money than selling operating systems then so be it. Hell, the XBOX gets enough ink on Digg anyway, but everyone forgets that it's a microsoft product because it isn't cheapened by linux and OS X fanboys.
- elvenseven, on 11/16/2007, -0/+3I still sometimes see Microsoft's version of adwords on the right of Digg. Anyone know how to get rid of it?
- schoate09, on 11/16/2007, -0/+3We won't miss you.
- inactive, on 11/16/2007, -1/+4Everyone has Google-envy... Microsoft, Yahoo!, even (gasp) Ask.com, but the truth of the matter is everyone is copying everyone. Google is trying to be like Microsoft with their online "office" apps and now phone OS, Yahoo! and Microsoft are trying to copy Google in the ad and search department, and Ask looks like a bad installment of Conan O'Brien's celebrity "If They Mated" between Yahoo! and Google.
- tugger, on 11/16/2007, -0/+3Microsoft has always made a ton of cash.. Vista's performance has been totally abysmal, appalling sales with only 60% of new machines going out with vista pre-installed. A confusing range of vista products, sluggish to use and pricey. Home users have shunned it, businesses may go for it, but only to take advantage of 64bit memory advantages, and that won't be anytime soon.
Add to this the worldwide slowdown in PC sales, with users spending cash on wii's and (yes) Xboxes... Japan for example, is showing how the PC has been replaced by other devices such as PS3 and next gen mobiles. Microsoft has seen this and jumped for other revenue streams such as advertising, search and the zune.... hahahahahaha... okay, maybe not the last one.
XP never really came out of beta, XP64 is just a mess, and Vista is an expensive dinosoar. SP2 or 3 may get some corporate sales, but for now, ask any PC fixit business, and they will tell you that a major part of their businesses is 'upgrading' new vista machines to XP, and that speaks volumes... - stutimandal, on 11/16/2007, -0/+3I hope some company (no, not Apple) makes a robust Operating system which works on arbitrary hardware so that Microsoft loses what they have currently.
They can't even do Vista right and are now jumping around to sectors where they don't have any clue. - pcpimpster, on 11/16/2007, -1/+3It has nothing to do with ads for their software, its ads to create additional revenue.
- mrBitch, on 11/17/2007, -0/+2Well said. The fact that Microsoft is concentrating on Advertising Revenue will not make future Windows updates any more likely to get rid of advertising malware and spyware for Microsoft's Windows OS ( and in fact - there COULD be a conflict of interest in ALLOWING Windows to become advert infested rather than preventing this ).
- MeatBiProduct, on 11/16/2007, -1/+3Who needs efficiency when you have unlimited money? their business strategy must be better than all the people that whine about their strategy cause i've yet to see any knob head on this site compete with them.
- genericface, on 11/16/2007, -0/+2I hope he forgot the /sarcasm
- MeatBiProduct, on 11/16/2007, -0/+2Don't let the door hit yah where the good lord split yah
- aksn1p3r, on 11/16/2007, -0/+2Ads have been on msn's service for ages...
- MemoryDump, on 11/16/2007, -2/+4am I the only one who's sick of hearing about MS all the time? this stuff is getting so old/boring...
- polvero, on 11/16/2007, -0/+2Haha. #2. Funny. At least it's an honest goal.
- mrBitch, on 11/17/2007, -0/+2Correct. Also, for all those that say " Vista sales performance has been better than expected ".
Microsoft has fudged Vista sales. This is how :
" ... Also, I've been surprised that the media isn't calling Microsoft on their announcements that "businesses are licensing Vista at a rapid rate" etc. because it's really misleading. I know of several companies I work with who have started new Open Volume Licenses with Microsoft *specifically* and *exclusively* to AVOID rolling out either Vista or Office 2007. These companies are perfectly productive on XP/2003 and want to avoid changing their standard deployment at all costs. Since they can no longer buy Office 2003 at all from anyone, and XP has less availability, they've finally bit the bullet and gone with a Volume License. But the absolutely pathetic part of that is simply that Microsoft writes the license as a Vista license with "downgrade" rights to XP or a 2007 license with downgrade rights to 2003. It's a "buy the new and we'll give you a install key for it and also an install key for the old version as well" thing. But then they go out and talk to reporters and say "lots of companies are buying Vista and 2007!" but they are only doing it because that's the ONLY practical way to AVOID actually deploying it! It's really not very honest. Lots of businesses are sitting out Vista, but Microsoft has made them buy Vista/2007 in order to use XP/2003 so the sales reports don't look as bad. " - Gizza, on 11/17/2007, -0/+2Well there are some good arguments to say that new Zune is perhaps better than the iPod. And 360 is doing well and the dashboard and Xbox Live implementation is great. Office is probably by far the best office suite out there (especially for users who use the advanced stuff in there). If they can release surface that works anything like they've shown that will also be an awesome product.
MS actually have some pretty decent products out there, people just seem too hung up on bashing Windows to notice.
BTW, what is this ***** session expired crap all the time, ugh. - omarciddo, on 11/16/2007, -0/+2Wow. Did you just find this out today? Ads are ads. I don't give a ***** who they're from, I'm not clicking them, end of story. But hey, if you're leaving because of THAT, then that's your deal I suppose.
- MeatBiProduct, on 11/16/2007, -0/+2I use it everyday works fine, better than SuSE and easier to get things done in and faster than XP, whats the problem?
- MeatBiProduct, on 11/16/2007, -0/+2A list over 1000 names long. We call it Fortune 1000
- inactive, on 11/16/2007, -0/+2i hope odb didn't teach you math, how many of those companies can gamble like ms?
- MeatBiProduct, on 11/16/2007, -0/+2dreamcast? -> PS2 -> Gamecube -> Xbox
- daftman, on 11/18/2007, -0/+1Bahahahahha, oh the irony is rich. Do YOU have any other punch line other than to troll Linux stories and post your dumbass "Prove it" comments. What's worse you actually befriend two biggest trolls, fkr3 and estvir.
From your history, It seems that your purpose on digg is to simply be a troll, an attention whore. Not even pro-microsoft, nor anti-linux, but simply that fat kid that sits on the fence picking fights. Pathetic kid. Truly ***** pathetic. - mdollarsign, on 11/17/2007, -0/+1DRAMA!
- grumpyrain, on 11/16/2007, -0/+1To be honest with you, I don't think Sony or Nintendo were doing too bad for themselves at that time either.
- Heavy, on 11/26/2007, -0/+1Why not get back to the basic an create a good/small/fast OS.. Vista is the biggest resource hog i have ever seen!
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