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- TGMD, on 05/18/2008, -5/+120A positive Microsoft story on digg? I must be dreaming...
..... I have really boring dreams. - plainandsimple, on 05/18/2008, -3/+38Looking at IPTV, seeing that there's :
- Interactive applications - multi-camera views, quick stats, live polls, bios, and other data. Anyone can code their own "app" and try to sell it. Should be lightweight and work on normal set-top boxes.
- quick channel changing
- multiple channel recording (w/o hardware tuner limit)
- multi-room viewing (go from one room to another without missing a second)
- multiple picture-in-picture (PIP)
- data transmitted over IP (ability to get info straight from the web, and fast)
...makes Mediaroom IPTV really awesome. Like the other guy said, IPTV really is the future of digital television. Can't wait to see AT&T and other companies roll out better solutions.
*crosses fingers for the Xbox 360 IPTV integration shown in CES* - wontstoptalking, on 05/18/2008, -5/+33I'm getting U-Verse (AT&T's service of Microsoft IPTV) in a few months. The only thing I'm worried about is if someone in my house is watching HD TV (because it runs off the internet) my Xbox Live will be slow. DSL has its limits.
- chriskeyes, on 05/18/2008, -5/+25I've seen AT&T U-Verse up close before, and I was pretty impressed with it. Going through the menus was great, it wasn't too terribly slow, and the transitions were nice. I love the live action PIP when you're looking through the guide, and it's much more fun to flip through content.
I have to say, Mediaroom IPTV is the future of digital TV. - praisethelard, on 06/06/2008, -3/+21I remember when they announced Surface most of the comments were positive.
- quikboy, on 05/18/2008, -1/+18You forgot :
1. Media synchronization with your PC - major reason why it's called Mediaroom
2. Ability to customize what channels you want
3. Parental Controls
4. More intuitive UI
5. Ability to interact with friends
6. Better HD quality
7. Mobility
Just thought I should add that. - mrsteveman1, on 05/18/2008, -0/+15It is in fact DSL for most users, the fiber doesn't come to the house.
- blurrie, on 05/18/2008, -4/+18it doesn't run off of dsl. u-verse includes at&t running fiber to your prim.. be it your house.. or to the beebox that is in your neighbor hood.. from there they run 22megs down (approx) to run your innernets/hdtv/telephone.
- oblique63, on 05/18/2008, -3/+17yet another reason to not get Apple tv...
and they say microsoft doesnt do anything 'innovative'... psh - wontstoptalking, on 05/18/2008, -0/+13oh, sweet!
- oMeSSiaHo, on 05/18/2008, -3/+15IPTV is one of those things I remember Bill Gates talking about for a long time. Its exciting to see a technology that seemed so innovative and cool actually turn into something. It gives me hope for all of the cool stuff we are hearing about now.
- JoeB4ever, on 05/18/2008, -1/+12finally come competition to cable
- chriskeyes, on 05/18/2008, -2/+11So tell me, how successful was the first company to sell IPTV?
Kinda interested, since I never heard of any other company utilizing IPTV at all. Seeing Mediaroom makes me think it's going to be far more successful than the one you're pointing out.
Oh, and if you look up the word "innovate" in a dictionary, it does not necessarily mean being first. - mrsteveman1, on 05/18/2008, -1/+9There is some QoS going on from what I've seen, hitting the line hard with something else in the house doesn't cause video to skip, though I'm pretty sure i saw it degrade a few times, which of course is better than the alternative, dropped frames.
- benitojuarez, on 05/18/2008, -2/+9Dont network speeds have to be vastly improved before they can even think of rolling this out on a large scale?
- protium, on 05/18/2008, -1/+8Hmm who would have thought higher bandwidth = better image quality I have satellite and I've noticed that Satellite HD isn't quiet the HD I was looking for, IPTV is actually doing fairly well overseas where people have real internet connections. (Not is USA).
Come on Verizon....50mbs.........you can do it.. - chriskeyes, on 05/18/2008, -1/+7There's AT&T U-Verse and BT Fusion. Here's a list of cities AT&T is offering U-Verse:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U-verse#Availability - inactive, on 05/18/2008, -0/+5You have to keep in mind though, that the 22meg is shared throughout the ENTIRE pipe. This is allocated to your TV, internet, and phone. Even if you don't use all of the services, U-Verse's advertised bandwidth is still restricted to services you can't access.
This isn't accurate, but it's a good description:
You have a 24mb pipe. For all intents and purposes, let's divide this equally by 3, for all 3 services. 8mb is restricted only to phone, 8 to internet, and 8 for TV. If you only have TV and internet, then you're still only going to get 8mb for each one, while the third 8mb portion of your pipe is just being entirely unused.
It's shady advertising, so unless you actually use all of AT&T's services, you won't get the full bandwidth. - Dobby156, on 05/18/2008, -0/+5like when the iphone and MB air was pasted to the front page for weeks? it new and its tech people want to know
- allengeer, on 05/18/2008, -0/+5I got AT&T UVerse and I am genuinely impressed. It is vast improvement over standard Crapcast internet/cable. Its cheaper. It has 10Mbps down internet. It has over 800+ on demand movies. Interactive applications. It's a joy to use.
- Donwangugi, on 05/18/2008, -1/+6It seems like all of Microsoft's products almost, besides its most important are quite innovative and interesting.
- MCA2142, on 05/18/2008, -1/+5And Chicks for free?
- jamesrdorn, on 05/18/2008, -0/+4I work for AT&T, believe me when I say things will improve very soon. They are rolling out VDSL2 to the VRADS. You should be able to do multiple DVRs & multiple HD streams soon.
- datacowboy, on 05/18/2008, -3/+7I've got UVerse and I am not too impressed. I am limited to only one DVR, so I can pause live TV on only one TV. The Whole Home DVR option has not been added yet (like multi-room viewing on TiVo). And probably the biggest drawback is that I am limited to one HD stream at a time. I have three TVs, but I can't bring in more than one HD channel at a time. There are just a whole bunch of scenarios where this bites you in the butt. Like when one of your kids tunes to an HD channel on their TV, and takes that stream away from the DVR unit that was recording HD content. The DVR just stops recording.
So it all sounds good on paper, but without much bigger pipes into the home, UVerse seems to be 180 degrees from the goal of more and more HD content. The more HD content that becomes available, the worse UVerse will perform.
I wish FiOS was available in my area. - Biggzipp, on 05/18/2008, -3/+7yeah we'll wait and see. I can't imagine that this will work that great until internet speeds in the U.S. increase a lot.
- oxymoron, on 05/18/2008, -0/+4Its fiber to the neighborhood node then in almost all cases it is VDSL so yes its still dsl. But to answer the original question the bandwidth for the TV is separate from the Internet bandwidth. So u can have 4 TVs on standard def or 1 HD and 3 standard def going and your Internet speed wont be effected.
- Scottievm, on 05/18/2008, -0/+4Did you read the article? It's already offered by BT...
- allengeer, on 05/18/2008, -0/+4really, I mean we're talking about your standard US household and it doesn't have 5 people watching 5 different TVs.
- allengeer, on 05/18/2008, -1/+4You forgot to mention over 150 pornographic movies available on demand with great titles like "Thanks for the Mammaries"
- yunus, on 05/18/2008, -0/+3This is likely to be provided by your ISP. ATT Uverse or FIOS could supply TV using this protocol. Your traditional Cable companies will probably not be early adapters of this and as you say will do everything they can to stop you from getting TV from anyone but them.
- rideagain, on 05/18/2008, -3/+6Will it obey the "broadcast flag" too, and randomly prevent me from recording shows?
- krinthekuz, on 09/16/2008, -0/+3i have to say that with comcast regular cable, the quality was slowly getting ***** and *****. the worst were the sporting events where the video quality would get so ***** and so smothered in artifacts... meanwhile every other commercial break advertised "HD IN CRYSTAL CLEAR QUALITY!!! SUPER SHARP IMAGE!!!!!" they'd show the "HD" next to the "SD" (displayed on my 38 inch SDTV) and that's great and all if you're an idiot, but to get them to make the HD picture look good on the SDTV, they have to deceptively degrade the SD picture.
i dumped comcast and i'm with directv now. i'm not saying directv is awesome. their DVR interface is retarded, but at least the video quality is good. - Awspire, on 05/18/2008, -0/+3Just when I try to get off the couch, they pull me right back in.
- isntreal, on 05/18/2008, -2/+5Not necessarily when you consider that they'll only be sending you one channel a time. Plus, consider how fast most downloads are from microsoft's servers, I'm usually getting at least 10mbps.
- Trixrox, on 05/18/2008, -1/+4Microsoft's most innovative stuff is their most unpopular stuff. I didn't even really know this existed, it looks so sweet.
- grimfandango, on 05/18/2008, -0/+3they do produce a lot of crap, but then it's a big company. their mice and xbox consoles are pretty good though.
- deadlyfluvirus, on 05/18/2008, -0/+2Pretty cool, how about AT&T drops its ridiculous prices for uverse and give us better speeds?
Then I might actually be interested instead of feeling AT&T is trying to jip me when I have other services that offer faster net for half of AT&T's price. - odyss3y, on 05/18/2008, -0/+2Accurate from my understanding after speaking with AT&T technicians.
- fuzzynyanko, on 05/18/2008, -1/+3Like the Zune :p
- reddikilowatt, on 05/18/2008, -0/+2And an HD feed is 19Mbps, at least without re-encoding. MPEG4 will reduce that, but may reduce the quality (DirecTV's feed is MPEG4 and looks a little softer, IMHO, than the cable company feed -my cable company doesn't crank up the compression to jam extra HD channels... yet), and off-air HD is just fantastic in comparison.
- SealandRes1, on 05/18/2008, -0/+2That's the problem.
- neko, on 05/18/2008, -5/+7Great!
until they switch on the Broadcast Flag. Or the Unskippable Advert flag. Or the no-more-than-three-people-in-the-room-all-of-which-must-have-a-valid-end-user-licence-and-a-windows-live-account flag. Or any other kind of wonderful flags they can invent for their new IPTV. Don't say it'll never happen, because that would just be too funny. - Grommy, on 05/18/2008, -1/+3"summery"
Every time. - jakem1, on 05/18/2008, -1/+3I heard about the zune. Most zune users seem to be pretty happy with it.
- max1018, on 05/18/2008, -0/+2Didn't even need to read the article, it's in the description.
- loneraven, on 05/18/2008, -0/+2Only thing I'm concerned with right now is the price. I'm not going to get excited about this if it costs just as much or more as regular cable...
- dstz, on 05/18/2008, -3/+5Do you mean in the US? because there are quite a few successful IPTV operators through the world. I'm using Iliad-Free telecom, since 2 or 3 years, which is rated world's first IPTV operator by Light-reading. Some features are HDTV, TIVO-like functionalities, having your own TV channel (for personal or professionals use alike,) etc. They built their IPTV system by themselves too, since 3 years ago offers from Microsoft (that their concurrent, Orange, use) weren't as good. This new offer seems nice though, quite comparable to what i use.
- sparrowkc, on 05/18/2008, -0/+2Much of the work put into Uverse has been in the development of super efficient codecs. They Use Mpeg4, but most people seem to say that the HD quality is slightly below other providers. Remember that Mpeg4 is not inherently lower quality than Mpeg2, a video encoded at the same bitrate in Mpeg4 and Mpeg2 will look much better in Mpeg4.
- vw2005, on 05/18/2008, -0/+2I love me my internets
- sparrowkc, on 05/18/2008, -0/+2Most Uverse installs are based off a type of dsl called VDSL. The modem in the customers house syncs at 27 Mbps. Each service (Phone, Internet, TV Streams) Has It's own dedicated bandwidth allotted to it, so using two services at the same time will not degrade service unless something else is wrong. That is why you have to use the router/modem the provide you, it is designed to use their QOS system.
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