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June 30: Goodbye, XP! Hello, Midori?!
blogs.zdnet.com — June 30 is the day that Microsoft begins phasing out Windows XP by no longer providing copies of the operating system to PC makers and retailers for preloading on new machines. It ’s also a good day (thanks to a recent New York Times opinion piece) to start looking ahead to what comes next — after Windows. That answer could be Softie Eric Rudder’s m
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- wynja, on 06/30/2008, -68/+8This should greatly boost the sales of OS X, since you can use it with any Intel PC.
- nullx42, on 06/30/2008, -15/+12Not legally, or without driver problems. This should, in theory boost the download of linux. [THIS YEAR IS THE YEAR OF LINUX FOR SURE!!!]
- nullx42, on 06/30/2008, -10/+3lol in b4 linux *****.
- Mrdudeperson, on 06/30/2008, -5/+3Or maybe this will boost the sales of windows 3.1! Who knows what we can accomplish with our trusted windows computers!
- Rikkochet, on 06/30/2008, -1/+18Just like the last 10 years all were!
- nullx42, on 06/30/2008, -0/+5lol miss the joke more.
- unitedatheism, on 07/01/2008, -3/+2A great boost on OS X would be if Apple could somehow make fashion/design universities free for anyone.
Perhaps a metrosexuality course could be created by Steve Jobs, I'm sure eleven out of ten students would buy a mac... - Elranzer, on 07/01/2008, -0/+2Interesting... Microsoft is abandoning support for Windows XP and Apple is abandoning support for PowerPC Macs (in OS X Snow Leopard).
Out with the old, indeed.
- nullx42, on 06/30/2008, -15/+12Not legally, or without driver problems. This should, in theory boost the download of linux. [THIS YEAR IS THE YEAR OF LINUX FOR SURE!!!]
- occasus, on 06/30/2008, -39/+13I miss Windows 98.
- chedabob, on 06/30/2008, -3/+25Yeah, I miss plugging in a scanner and getting a BSOD.
- jimminy, on 06/30/2008, -2/+10I don't.
- tnoy, on 06/30/2008, -1/+10Why the ***** would you miss Windows 98?
- bratterscain, on 06/30/2008, -1/+9I did too until lately when I got a bunch of old computers. And jesus *****, I'm so glad it's all behind us.
- Rosco, on 07/01/2008, -0/+4The only reason I miss Win98 is System Shock 2.
And no, I cannot get it to run in XP, I have tried several times. I just gave up.- Amiga501, on 07/01/2008, -2/+1It works on both XP and Vista for me. However, for XP the game did crashed sometimes with older Nvidia drivers. Not the most stable game created, but it will work on some modern systems.
- khuongsta, on 06/30/2008, -25/+10Never Forget 06.30.08
- sockpuppets, on 06/30/2008, -7/+3You're only instigating the truthers.
- jls33fsls, on 06/30/2008, -25/+8What kind of a name is Midori?
- ElBeh, on 06/30/2008, -4/+11It's the codename, not the official, released name. Also, Google tells me it's a brand of melon liquor...
- flangepiece, on 06/30/2008, -8/+3It is berry gleen.
- iamnobody8614, on 06/30/2008, -4/+8It is a delicious melon flavored liquor.
- Canadian0207, on 06/30/2008, -0/+6mmmm...midori sours rock...
- sockpuppets, on 06/30/2008, -6/+11Irodim, the Greek God of mutilthreaded processes, spelled backwards.
- Kratos76, on 07/01/2008, -0/+4see, now That's creative.
- chedabob, on 06/30/2008, -5/+5A codename?
- jabberwolf, on 06/30/2008, -13/+16A girl drink - something Mac users drink.
- lrdntwnd, on 07/01/2008, -0/+6It's usually not a drink by itself. It's a top-shelf melon liqueur. It can be used to make some pretty awesome drinks. And, just because it tastes like fruit doesn't make it any less of a drink (when ordered in a bar, a cosmo still has more alcohol in it than a Jack and Coke).
- andstone, on 06/30/2008, -3/+10It's the japanese word for "green". Perhaps they foresee lots of it once they roll it out.
- tnoy, on 06/30/2008, -4/+25Its about as lame as calling an OS something like "Intrepid Ibex"
- ATLien74, on 06/30/2008, -3/+6A black chick porn star. She's kinda hot.
- ATLien74, on 06/30/2008, -3/+2WTF? Just pointing out that it's a porn chicks name. I thought it was hilarious! Douchebags. Who the ***** cares if it's the japanese word for green, that's boring.
- hiikeeba, on 06/30/2008, -0/+11It is also a traditional Japanese girls' name.
- Elranzer, on 07/01/2008, -2/+1Midori (born Michele Evette Watley on July 19, 1968 in Durham, North Carolina, U.S.) is an American porn star.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midori_%28porn_star%2 ...
- diggtochina, on 06/30/2008, -25/+10At least MS is designing something from the ground up and not just beautifying XP with boat (Vista)
- armor, on 06/30/2008, -4/+12Mmm.. boat..
- diggtochina, on 06/30/2008, -2/+5ooops
- noolvidaremos, on 06/30/2008, -11/+2Vista is a lame copy of the look and feel of Gnome theme Aero. take a look at http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Aero?co ... and http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Aero-G+ ... they just copied the look and feel and put it in to that transitional OS called Windows Vista
- XBSHX, on 06/30/2008, -2/+8Except Vista had that look before it was even released.
- noolvidaremos, on 06/30/2008, -4/+4dude ... Gnome had that look for many years, way before Longhorn was mentioned.
- StealthTomato, on 06/30/2008, -0/+5That may be the case, but your first link ain't exactly convincing evidence: the GNOME Menu button has a Windows logo on it. Obviously a "tribute" theme.
- theOster, on 06/30/2008, -3/+2no they're not. they said they would do it with vista (winFS anyone??), but they fell back on old code. now that everyone hates vista, guess what? "Windows 7 will be 'from the ground up'!" and guess what, they've just announced they'll be building on vista.
they jsut don't get it. you have to piss off a lot of hangers on and just say no to legacy. write it from the ground up, and maybe you'll gain a lost user base. - DarkShroud, on 07/02/2008, -1/+1WinFS is not a file system. And almost isn't needed anymore with the functionality that's been added to the OS, MS SQL, and later versions of .NET.
- theOster, on 07/04/2008, -0/+1did i say it was? my understanding was it was a db-based method of indexing your drives content. i only used it as an example of something that was being fairly heavily touted as a "great new feature" and was subsequently cut
- armor, on 06/30/2008, -4/+12Mmm.. boat..
- synned, on 06/30/2008, -19/+16:(. Too bad we always have Windows XP- The Pirate Bay Edition available.
- kdnewton, on 06/30/2008, -13/+56This is a little misleading. WinXP will still be around as pre-load on lower-end PCs as competition with sub-notebooks running Linux.
http://www.nytimes.com/idg/IDG_852573C400693880482 ...- CCmachined, on 06/30/2008, -0/+10so true.
the only problem Linux has is theres no standard distro people can recognize. I would say Ubuntu but it's not very optomized for low-end machines. Xubuntu? it even runs on the eeePC ;D- veganima, on 06/30/2008, -2/+7I do not agree with that at all. I have ubuntu 7.10 and windows 2000 both installed in an Athlon900 and 256 MB Ram, and the difference is brutal. Ubuntu runs perfect and windows 2000 with just avast and zone alarm is tedious. However they downsize xp I do not think it could be rival, more to say if we compared it with xubuntu (the light version). I admit windows is still better in having more programs and drivers but, technically, as an OS, XP is no rival for ubuntu.
- CCmachined, on 06/30/2008, -0/+10so true.
- TwoKill, on 06/30/2008, -20/+16I hope this is not just all rumors. I would love to see something new feeling come out of Microsoft, in the OS department.
- khuongsta, on 06/30/2008, -27/+8oh ***** here we go again
- Mrdudeperson, on 06/30/2008, -21/+9Now we will be forced to lead into piracy... unthinkable.
- rebelcommander, on 06/30/2008, -26/+11It's about time M$ looked into re-designing their kernel!
- jimminy, on 06/30/2008, -4/+11I can imagine someone at Microsoft opening Notepad and typing something like
/*A new kernel for Windows*/
#include "stdio.h"
void main(void){- netneutrality, on 06/30/2008, -0/+9Kernels can have command lines. Can't include system libraries like stdio though.
- natenovs, on 07/01/2008, -0/+4@netneutrality
yeh, there was some fail there. it would probably look more like
;A new kernel for Windows
.MODEL FLAT, C
.STACK
.DATA
.CODE
.main:
push %ebp
....
- jimminy, on 06/30/2008, -4/+11I can imagine someone at Microsoft opening Notepad and typing something like
- jls33fsls, on 06/30/2008, -21/+14Interesting that Microsoft has been working on a totally new operating system since 2003 instead of just updating old code. I really hope this goes somewhere.
- idavidtang, on 06/30/2008, -30/+6Do re mi? Midori!
- Scrappy1850, on 06/30/2008, -19/+106these comments suck
- KMartSheriff, on 06/30/2008, -4/+12Hence why they're buried, which sucks because I'm genuinely interested in this and would love to see a discussion.
- megamod, on 06/30/2008, -8/+4shhh...don't encourage the bury brigade...you're MAKING THEM ANGRY!!! BURY BRIGADE SMAAAASH!
- daxsymbiont, on 06/30/2008, -40/+2new pcs are pre-loaded with vista. if you get a new pc, you will be using vista.
and if you're building your own pcs without profit or the hobbyist experience, stop doing it. it doesn't deserve the money savings, guarantee and security that it at least works of a finished product. let alone laptops are way better investments than desktops nowadays. by the time your laptop needs upgrading, it's the time a desktop would need an overall replacement too.- tnoy, on 06/30/2008, -2/+13"...guarantee and security that it at least works of a finished product"
Unless you actually know more about a computer than how to turn it on and logon to digg. - AirRaven, on 06/30/2008, -3/+20...I'm assuming that you had a bad experience in the past building a PC?
I'm also assuming that you most likely sucked hard at doing so.- daxsymbiont, on 06/30/2008, -15/+1I have bult more than 10 pcs successfully; what are you, on your first and went on the internet to gloat about it?
- CCmachined, on 06/30/2008, -0/+5it doesnt seserve the money savings
- pcpimpster, on 06/30/2008, -0/+5"by the time your laptop needs upgrading, it's the time a desktop would need an overall replacement"
That made no sense to me. Laptop and desktop hardware moves about the same pace and it is usually a laptop that lacks the base performance compared to a desktop in the same price range.
So if your running software on it, as most computers do... you will get better price/performance with the desktop.
An example would be laptop hard drives which have less storage and spindle speed when compared with desktop hard drives.
Another would be quad core performance which you will get at much lower cost for a desktop verse laptop.
GPU, RAM? I'll stop there...
As for the article, cool, i can still get XP oem if I really need it.
- tnoy, on 06/30/2008, -2/+13"...guarantee and security that it at least works of a finished product"
- Disease, on 06/30/2008, -17/+5This calls for a 21-gun salute in honor of Windows XP.
- jabberwolf, on 06/30/2008, -23/+10So after XP we have "Midori" ?? Girly drinks? Huh, maybe suitable for Mac users but we need something more like whisky!
Oh and Vista working fine ... was...has... and continues to.- BlackJackJester, on 06/30/2008, -5/+4Yea...if you recall, Vista was codenamed "Longhorn", so I'm guessing the release name will be something different. I propose "Microsoft Linoleum"
- StealthTomato, on 06/30/2008, -1/+4I dunno, I agree with jabberwolf; after Vista, we definitely need a nice strong drink....
- BlackJackJester, on 06/30/2008, -5/+4Yea...if you recall, Vista was codenamed "Longhorn", so I'm guessing the release name will be something different. I propose "Microsoft Linoleum"
- hexydes, on 06/30/2008, -22/+10Want to be radical? Take the taskbar and start menu. Throw them out. Go from there.
Dare to try something different.
P.S. Hire some graphic / UI designers while you're at it.- BlackJackJester, on 06/30/2008, -3/+11What do you have against something that is far more functional and useful, and user friendly than they have in OS/X?
- shakin, on 06/30/2008, -9/+1The start menu is barely functional. How do I run that program again? Oh yes, Start -> Programs -> Software Company Name -> Program Folder -> Program Name
It isn't the worst thing ever, but it's pretty annoying and can be quite difficult to use if you've got lots of programs installed and your program is located under a company name that you can't remember.
That's why Vista has search built-in. If your menu is so bloated that you've got to search it, something is wrong. - ricodued, on 06/30/2008, -1/+5@shakin:
Yeah, as opposed to open up Macintosh HD, click Applications, and then scroll through a big ***** iconic list of all of your applications, some of which you may or may not be able to recognize just by glancing because sometimes they get put into folders.
The Start Menu is incredibly easy and IMO a better system than OS X, especially when one considers how much is linked right in there, whereas in Mac OS X you have to drill down for things like Network Connections or Printer settings. - jvincent08, on 06/30/2008, -4/+2ORR you could click Applications > Category (such as Internet) > Program Name.
Done!
(I'm referring to the Gnome UI) - BlackJackJester, on 06/30/2008, -0/+3orr you know, put the programs on the desktop, or the taskbar, and you're good to go in one click. It also provides access to system utilities, and the command line if you feel so inclined.
- Elranzer, on 07/01/2008, -0/+3One could always rearrange their Start menu, Gnome-style...
Start > Programs > Internet > Internet Explorer
Start > Programs > Office > Microsoft Word
Start > Programs > Video > Windows Media Player
Start > Programs > Graphics > Adobe Photoshop
Start > Programs > Games > Oregon Trail
...
etc
Just right-click on the Start menu, click "Open/ Open All Users" and arrange (and discard) the icon shortcuts there.
- shakin, on 06/30/2008, -9/+1The start menu is barely functional. How do I run that program again? Oh yes, Start -> Programs -> Software Company Name -> Program Folder -> Program Name
- BlackJackJester, on 06/30/2008, -3/+11What do you have against something that is far more functional and useful, and user friendly than they have in OS/X?
- scy1192, on 06/30/2008, -18/+7is this another graveyard?
- RadiatedAnt, on 06/30/2008, -7/+2for you, always
- idavidtang, on 06/30/2008, -22/+9BURY BRIGADE WAS HERE!
- RadiatedAnt, on 06/30/2008, -7/+1wishful thinking is here!
- dumpyhumpy, on 06/30/2008, -18/+2***** your graveyard
- topgun553, on 06/30/2008, -15/+4And I thought Digg comments were bad-
This is the top comment on the page:
"
What's the difference between Mac and Windows? Nothing, the only difference is windows was accepted and Leopard Mac version of OS was not. What happened. Gates may well have and is a good programmer but one thing is for sure he sure was and is a salesman. That's why we are using windows machines now and not Mac. He saw that not everyone wanted a computer that you could write a book on nor did some people need a computer that had all the great graphics capabilities that graphic artist would need. So if I just need to serf the web and write an occasional letter then I could get by with buying a 3 or 4 hundred dollar computer instead of having to put out 4 or 5 thousand dollar for a mac to do the same thing. The bottom line I believe is this, Bill Gates could sale refrigerators to Eskimos to keep their food warm.
Ron Spruell Sr.
"- soopafly, on 06/30/2008, -2/+1That there is your typical Windows user. Only thing missing is the crying over no games.
- usingpond, on 06/30/2008, -12/+1Ah, yes. The biggest roadblock for both Mac OS X and Linux has been removed.
I could see the allure to XP, as people were familiar with it. But Vista? Well, I'll let you draw your own conclusion. - Evildudetx, on 06/30/2008, -16/+3All your Microsoft are belong to us.........and I welcome our new Microsoft overlords.
- hollyminkowski, on 06/30/2008, -12/+2They could go the cheap and easy route and build a new OS on top of BSD.
Throw in a copy of XP for compatibility with old programs.
Apple built on top of BSD...seems OK to me. - ausoff2, on 06/30/2008, -12/+3a new microsoft operating system, huh? Interesting. I've been hearing a lot of people dissing windows for living in the past, not sure what that means exactly, but it's cool to see them do something new.
- foosa9, on 06/30/2008, -22/+11Maybe one day Microsoft will be able to create a product as widely accepted and liked as xp. Vista, was not that by far. But I am optimistic that Microsoft will have a secure and stable OS that will exceed the features and capabilities of XP. All vista was, to me and a good portion of the population (that I have had interactions with), was ME with more eye candy. The college I attend has no intentions to move to vista, nor does the company I work for.(It's not some mom and pop shop, it's a billion dollar+ a year company!) and I know they are not alone in the industry. This could be the golden arrow to revamp Microsoft after vista, or just another rusty nail in the coffin.
- gasoline, on 06/30/2008, -4/+15It took several years before XP became widely accepted. I remember all the doubts about how much RAM XP really needs and so on. Reminds a bit what's going on with Vista right now.
- Wargasmic, on 06/30/2008, -7/+3I remember that, but these xpfags are going to have to be dragged kicking and screaming into Vista for the time being. I wonder if they behaved this way when Windows 98 got dropped and XP became the standard?
- KnightWhoSaysNi, on 06/30/2008, -1/+7Yes, but reaction to XP was never as negative as the reaction to Vista.
Also, a lot of people liked XP from the start, which didn't happen with Vista.
- gasoline, on 06/30/2008, -4/+15It took several years before XP became widely accepted. I remember all the doubts about how much RAM XP really needs and so on. Reminds a bit what's going on with Vista right now.
- sx66gns, on 06/30/2008, -14/+5More like , Hello Ubuntu....... like 4 years ago , Where the ***** has ZDnet been , pfft.
- KMartSheriff, on 06/30/2008, -10/+9***** Ubuntu
- jrizzo, on 06/30/2008, -2/+71. Install OS
2. Install Game
3. Play game
I know its a result of corporate whoring from M$ and all, but when linux can do that without any steps in between, I will care.- CCmachined, on 06/30/2008, -4/+1with Windows, its nothing like that.
1. Install OS
2. Hunt the net for drivers for your hardware
3. Install Drivers
4. Check OS Compatibility with Game (read: Vista)
5. Stick disk in
6. ***** around with serials
7. Play Game
ever played DooM3/Quake4/Americas Army etc etc on Linux?
1. Install OS
2. Install Nvidia/ATI Driver (three clicks in synaptic, no hunting the net)
3. Stick disc in
4. run installer grabbed from the net
5. Play Game
- CCmachined, on 06/30/2008, -4/+1with Windows, its nothing like that.
- erichw1504, on 06/30/2008, -20/+11Umm, I still use Microsoft Windows 95... When did this "XP" and "Vista" come out?
- ExRe, on 06/30/2008, -16/+7About time. After using Vista for almost 2 years I really hate XP.
Now if they could just nuke any PC's that still have IE6 installed, that would make me really happy.- netneutrality, on 06/30/2008, -1/+2That would include mine, which is running Win2003. So no thanks.
- Atomic1fire, on 07/08/2008, -0/+1Upgrade or change please
IE6 is not only a pain for web developers who webpages for all browsers but its old and kind of useless Firefox Opera, Or IE7 would be a better choice
If you cant get a new OS or IE7 then change to a different browser please and get something useful
- Atomic1fire, on 07/08/2008, -0/+1Upgrade or change please
- netneutrality, on 06/30/2008, -1/+2That would include mine, which is running Win2003. So no thanks.
- idavidtang, on 06/30/2008, -16/+8Bury me, Dori.
- noolvidaremos, on 06/30/2008, -3/+7i will not
- kibbledbits, on 06/30/2008, -12/+20Microsoft's problem is also it's success. The Win32 API. The only reason people use Windows is to have ubiquitous use of applications. If people migrate and learn something new many will choose Non-Windows.
- unitedatheism, on 07/01/2008, -1/+2No. Not at all. No. What? No. No. You see? No.
People are used to Microsoft, the next OS will be like Windows which we all know and use (some of people also loves it, some not)
All in all, companies will developed drivers for the next version of Windows, not Linux, not Mac (Mac.. lol, what am I talking about?)
Also, just take by how many computers are sold with Windows already on it.... I would say that Vista IS going to be the de facto standard as XP solds out. The other OSes can fight each other for the 10 or 12% of market of OSless computers. And expect next Windows being even more embedded with DRM and ***** we don't want and still being the standard, indeed.
- unitedatheism, on 07/01/2008, -1/+2No. Not at all. No. What? No. No. You see? No.
- tnoy, on 06/30/2008, -5/+34I've always been looking forward to the potential "next big thing" from Microsoft. I'd love to see them gut the legacy ***** from Windows and start fresh. Its become even more of a possibility now with how far virtualization has come. They could provide legacy support though a hypervisor.
I'd love to see them create a great new OS, but I doubt we'd ever see it unless there is a large shift of people in control. XP was great, but the delays in Vista coupled with its lackluster adoption seems like it has been pretty damaging. I've been thinking of Windows 7 as make-or-break for Microsoft. If Windows 7 flops, it'll open the door for another player to take a serious amount of the market share.- popfrogs, on 06/30/2008, -1/+5MS has really gone downhill since Gates stepped away from the control panel. The company has no direction anymore.
- twigboy, on 06/30/2008, -2/+1they have a direction.
unfortunately, its downhill.
- twigboy, on 06/30/2008, -2/+1they have a direction.
- kendallwi, on 06/30/2008, -8/+1too late. apple has a 20% market share in the US. when XP debuted, it was 2.3%. MS has really miss stepped. same with firefox, 1.5% when XP debuted. today, firefox global market share is at 21%. ouch. google share in 2001, 12%. today, 65% market share. the players have stepped up and won. windows 7 might stop the bleeding but the damage has been done. MS will go the way of IBM. they'll be a player, just on a different field.
- natenovs, on 07/01/2008, -0/+3where did you pull that 20% number from?
- daza, on 07/01/2008, -0/+3Err.. Firefox didn't even exist until early 2004, before it was known as Firebird and Phoenix. Windows XP was released in 2001. How could Firefox have a market share of 1.5% "when XP debuted" if it didn't even exist until 3 years after? You sir, are a poor spinner.
- tian2992, on 07/01/2008, -0/+4Exactly!, OS 7,8 & 9 sucked, but Apple did the right thing with OS X. Providing compatibility without sacrificing the current and future technology. I hope MS goes the same way.
- danz32, on 07/01/2008, -0/+2Except OS9's market share was what, like 3%? They had nothing to lose, no corporate customers with possible compatibility issues, so they could do whatever they wanted with OS X. Microsoft can't (and shouldn't) do an overhaul at this point.
Windows Vista made a ton of under the hood changes and Windows 7 will bring more optimization to that. Yes, at some point in the future their will be an overhaul with something like Midori, but its definitely not now. - tian2992, on 07/02/2008, -0/+2Well They introduced Classic. It worked quite well, even with the computers at the time. At this point doing something like Classic for Windows (using Win32 as legacy) would be very daring, bur good at long term.
- danz32, on 07/01/2008, -0/+2Except OS9's market share was what, like 3%? They had nothing to lose, no corporate customers with possible compatibility issues, so they could do whatever they wanted with OS X. Microsoft can't (and shouldn't) do an overhaul at this point.
- popfrogs, on 06/30/2008, -1/+5MS has really gone downhill since Gates stepped away from the control panel. The company has no direction anymore.
- Sisko41, on 06/30/2008, -19/+11sooo why is everyone digging down every single comment? its ***** annoying clicking SHOW for every single one.
- 2Bnor2B, on 06/30/2008, -0/+7Click "settings" on title bar above the comments.
Change your threshold to show all
Reload page and enjoy. - unitedatheism, on 07/01/2008, -1/+1Because is not about the iPhone or OS X.
This sucks man, these people are not good looking as me and my compy, alright?
- 2Bnor2B, on 06/30/2008, -0/+7Click "settings" on title bar above the comments.
- JamesDean59, on 06/30/2008, -17/+5why the heck is every story's comment i've read today have the majority of the comments burried? Looks like the bury crew is in full swing today...
- CharlesSaint, on 06/30/2008, -0/+8I can tell you outright that I'm not a part of the bury squad, but a majority of these comments are nothing short of pure ***** one-liners that contribute absolutely nothing useful or amusing to the conversation whatsoever. If i want those kind of comments, I go to youtube. But, if anything, I'll try to do my part to help others not suffer through all the dumbass digger-come-lately fools that seem to be multiplying like jackrabbits on this site.
- MadN, on 06/30/2008, -13/+3Here is the scoop on Midori; it seems Microsoft could use some right now:
www.midori-world.com/ - weirdlookinguy, on 06/30/2008, -23/+12I'll continue to rock XP as long as possible. Seeing as how you can still get by on W2K, XP should be good for another 3~5 years.
Linux? Bah. I'd rather use an abacus.
OS X? No thank you.
Vista? ***** off.
It's all about XP.- CCmachined, on 06/30/2008, -5/+2more like
Ubuntu? I'll give that a shot.- weirdlookinguy, on 07/01/2008, -1/+2I've given several flavors of Linux a shot, including Ubuntu, PCLOS, a couple other Ubuntu derivatives (Xubuntu, Kubuntu, etc). PCLOS was the best but none of them felt right and there were a lot of little annoyances here and there that really added up. Plus I really prefer gnome over KDE but all the gnome-based distros felt really sluggish on my PC for some reason. Oh and I was never able to get dual monitors running properly because I have a ATI card.
Check your facts before you get all smartass on me. - Xmister, on 07/04/2008, -0/+1What versions of them did you try? Because the ATI driver is improved a lot, and much more easier to install it on ubuntu(just 3 clicks), then in windows(ati.com,search the right driver,download,setup,next-next,etc). They have the same catalyst control center, except that crossfire is not yet supported under Linux.
And (for me at least) windows has a lot of little annoyance, just like Linux, there is no perfect OS, it's only the question of which annoyances are you used to.
- weirdlookinguy, on 07/01/2008, -1/+2I've given several flavors of Linux a shot, including Ubuntu, PCLOS, a couple other Ubuntu derivatives (Xubuntu, Kubuntu, etc). PCLOS was the best but none of them felt right and there were a lot of little annoyances here and there that really added up. Plus I really prefer gnome over KDE but all the gnome-based distros felt really sluggish on my PC for some reason. Oh and I was never able to get dual monitors running properly because I have a ATI card.
- CCmachined, on 06/30/2008, -5/+2more like
- YodaJones, on 06/30/2008, -10/+1Microsoft and Mary Jo Foley, both out of gas. I don't know any corporation who really cares what the next operating system is.
Buried. - onux16, on 06/30/2008, -11/+3I thought this kind of interesting... "mi" in Spanish means "my". So... My Dori. When you look Dori up in Google, the first link is about a Mac author/programmer/speaker named Dori Smith.
Whether I'm actually on to something or not, this Midori story intrigues me.- KMyHero, on 06/30/2008, -0/+5How high are you?
- onux16, on 06/30/2008, -0/+1I just finished a 16-hour workday. I'm not high, but I'm definitely a little out there at the moment.
- StealthTomato, on 06/30/2008, -2/+2ARBOK backwards is KOBRA!
- bassoondux, on 06/30/2008, -0/+2Midori is also Japanese for green.
- vagabondgr, on 06/30/2008, -0/+3Man, you are seriously, I mean seriously INSANE. That being said, your comment is awesome.
- KMyHero, on 06/30/2008, -0/+5How high are you?
- shirosamurai, on 06/30/2008, -6/+20Midori is the Japanese word for the color green. That's all there is to it.
- vagabondgr, on 06/30/2008, -3/+1What? It's not about Dori Smith? Google for 'Dori'. The truth is out there....
- JKAL, on 07/01/2008, -1/+5it is also the name of some very cute Japanese girls.
- Hangly, on 07/01/2008, -0/+6And several ugly ones.
- DarkShroud, on 07/02/2008, -0/+1That's why man invented beer.
- OroCHU, on 07/01/2008, -1/+7Assuming Mr. Rudder or Mr. Mundie is a fan of Midori no Hibi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midori_no_hibi), it's also an appropriate name for a microkernel-based OS.
- tian2992, on 07/01/2008, -0/+2It can fit on your hand!!
- Midorikatana, on 06/30/2008, -8/+4The last time i checked midori means green in Japanese .
- bjornski, on 06/30/2008, -4/+22Link was nothing but spam for a book, with no facts and only rumors.
Good way to sell a book, I guess.
/buried as spam- bitterbug, on 06/30/2008, -0/+4Ditto. No real story there, just something to push the "find out more by reading my book" method of advertising.
- pmclinn, on 06/30/2008, -6/+1I would like to see this new os completely branch off of the Windows Product. The world is need of a better OS.
- chesscat, on 06/30/2008, -17/+5You won't miss XP if you just switch to OS X.
- TheSnuffster, on 06/30/2008, -2/+4yeh, its as easy as that
- chesscat, on 07/01/2008, -1/+1I'm glad you see the light.
- alexforcefive, on 06/30/2008, -1/+3I believed the hype at one point too. Bought an iBook G4, six months later it was running debian ;)
- unitedatheism, on 07/01/2008, -2/+2Nevermind the bury brigade, you're being buried because your comment needs to be buried, period.
- chesscat, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1ditto
- TheSnuffster, on 06/30/2008, -2/+4yeh, its as easy as that
- kazukisan, on 06/30/2008, -9/+1digg down...
- ScarabLordCoral, on 06/30/2008, -16/+9***** YOU BURY BRIGADE
- Wakuko, on 06/30/2008, -6/+2Bury brigade == M$ drones
- unrealmp3, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1Buried & reported.
Take that ! - DarkShroud, on 07/02/2008, -0/+1Or maybe you could try typing a coherent post after reading the article. But I guess that's too much to ask.
- trollick, on 06/30/2008, -12/+20I'll stick with Vista. Midori is such a resource hog and it is nothing more than Vista plus eye candy. There is no reason to switch.
- hartley, on 06/30/2008, -12/+4How do you know this since no one knows what Midori is...
RTFA!- emaredubyou, on 06/30/2008, -0/+11chill out! i'm pretty sure he's joking
taking the normal xp vs vista argument, but replacing xp with vista and vista with midori.
- emaredubyou, on 06/30/2008, -0/+11chill out! i'm pretty sure he's joking
- DarkShroud, on 07/02/2008, -0/+2That will so happen. I still remember trying to hang on to 98SE and then XP SP2 came out.
- hartley, on 06/30/2008, -12/+4How do you know this since no one knows what Midori is...
- ATLien74, on 06/30/2008, -12/+5Dugg for code naming an OS after a hot black chick porn star.
- evanct, on 06/30/2008, -3/+7midori is the japanese word for green.
- ATLien74, on 06/30/2008, -0/+3That maybe true... but it's also a hot black porn chick. I'm going with it was named after her. LOL
- JYoungest1, on 07/01/2008, -0/+3When I did a google image search with safe search off, I got a decent mix of Asians too.
- Hangly, on 07/01/2008, -0/+2It's also a not-uncommon first name for girls.
- TheScreamer, on 06/30/2008, -5/+0If they are no longer going to make it available in either a retail or wholesale setting for those of us who DO like using XP, then they should make non-supported copies available for free download and "open up" their activation servers so that anyone can now load up a bootleg copy.
- MasteRR, on 06/30/2008, -0/+2But the whole reason for pulling it from shelves is to force people into upgrading to Vista. There is no way in hell they are going to do what you are suggesting.
- DarkShroud, on 07/02/2008, -0/+2Yeah, MS should have to support their products forever for free. I doubt a lot of the people whineing actually even payed for Windows.
- IdanH14, on 06/30/2008, -1/+1The thing is that they do support XP with updates, and you can easily buy Windows Vista Business/Ultimate and downgrade to XP, so what's the fuss about?
- MasteRR, on 06/30/2008, -0/+2But the whole reason for pulling it from shelves is to force people into upgrading to Vista. There is no way in hell they are going to do what you are suggesting.
- inkswamp, on 06/30/2008, -4/+2If (byline == "Mary Jo Foley") {
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