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- aindilis, on 05/21/2008, -25/+116Dear rek2,
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Microsoft Legal Department - rek2, on 05/21/2008, -19/+94I agree! we can't let microsoft rule our lifes.!
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http://www.binaryfreedom.info - jcannonb, on 05/21/2008, -13/+83All DRM should die a horrible, painful death. I am OK with watermarking. If you are going to fileshare copyrighted material, you should be caught, but, if you want to use the same song or video on a shared family computer in your home, that should be OK for all users of that computer, not just you.
- hamobu, on 05/21/2008, -14/+67Use Linux, or lose freedom. Company imposed restrictions are becoming commonplace. Since the beginning of time, people have had the freedom to buy goods at one place, and sell them at another place to make a profit. Indeed it is this kind of trade that is a foundation of our civilization, and many other civilizations of the past. However these days people are taking it for granted that DVD sold in one country will not play in another. It is one of many examples of how freedoms of many are limited for the profit of few.
- GIMAD2008, on 05/21/2008, -16/+65Yet another reason why I don't use Microsoft media functionality.
- BigManOnCampus, on 05/21/2008, -7/+54Just use MythTV. It's got a very very active userbase, and it could probably use more contributors/coders. It's slick, open-source, and it works great with high definition cards. I couldn't be happier with my mythtv setup.
- crapuccino, on 05/21/2008, -8/+43A few points ...
- Microsoft would rather have a business relationship with big media than have happy customers.
- Big media can be expected to indulge in more than a little douchebaggery.
I don't know why any of this is surprising, but the uninformed masses keep sucking it up for some reason. - FreeDeb, on 05/21/2008, -11/+44Next up, let Bill Gates order your food at restaurants and pick out your clothes!
- inactive, on 05/21/2008, -10/+43Apple isn't much better. Any monopoly over media will suck. If appleTV finally takes off, you're going to have the same problem with iTunes store video downloads....
- schif, on 05/21/2008, -14/+42Microsoft is using DRM to prevent users from saving certain television shows to their hard drive. Saving such streams is a normal feature that comes with Windows Media Center, but they have locked you out of it for NBC television shows and others. They claim that they are just following FCC regulations -- but the Second Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that the FCC has no authority to make such regulations. The truth is Microsoft is just power hungry and making use of DRM wherever and whenever they can in order to secure media deals for themselves and lock in their customers.
- zenerdiode, on 05/21/2008, -11/+39NBC incorrectly flagged American Gladiators, so it didn't record on MCE machines. Other NBC shows like the Office and Earl recorded fine. NBC admitted the mistake and has corrected the flagging to comply with FCC rules.
And the reason Vista has all the DRM in the first place was the broadcasters demanded it so they'll allow recording of premium content such as HBO and TNT.
Currently, Vista is the ONLY way to get HBO, Showtime, ESPN, etc... recordings in HD. You can't do it with MythTV, SageTV, any Apple application, or any other application for that matter. Note, I'm not talking about recording unencrypted QAM or unencrypted Firewire output from your Motorola box. So if you want to watch the shows, you gotta play with the devil. In this case, it's the broadcasters, not M$. - Positivx, on 05/21/2008, -6/+28I don't get it. How is this any different than DVR'ing your favorite TV shows? Just because it ends up on a desktop or laptop, that makes it evil? This is stupidity.
- arlok789, on 05/21/2008, -1/+19This is stupid. As wrong as it is, you can't stop people from sharing media. Companies need to face this fact and deal with it in other ways.
- Jawshie, on 05/21/2008, -4/+21I dont understand why people are burying this guy. He makes absolute sense... If we continue to let Microsoft do these kinds of things, they can (and probably will) come to own us. Anything for a couple more dollars, yeah?
- Chompy, on 05/21/2008, -1/+18Sweater vests for everyone!
- crapuccino, on 05/21/2008, -4/+20MythTV is great. Just pick up one of the pre-built distributions such as Mythbuntu or Mythdora (there are others). I'm watching Futurama on mine now. Doesn't get a lot more nerdy than that eh?
- mrsteveman1, on 05/21/2008, -2/+18The DRM in vista has nothing to do with preventing file sharing, its to control how you can use stuff you paid for, and charge you more for certain rights in certain cases.
- carlosos, on 05/22/2008, -0/+15I believe the only DRM that should exist is for renting. Watermarking and other types of DRM for bought products should not exist.
- doshindude, on 05/21/2008, -3/+17lawl
- johnsu01, on 05/21/2008, -6/+19We pressure the networks and producers too. But this particular issue is software -- it's MS making the choice to implement it when they don't have to. This is a complicated problem with a lot of people involved, but it doesn't mean we shouldn't point to all of them specifically.
- inactive, on 05/21/2008, -7/+19And yet when Apple releases AppleTV with DRM worse than MS, everyone says how great it is.
Also when people bring up the horrible DRM on iTunes, apple fanboys are quick to point out that it's the record companies that force Apple to do so. And yet when it comes to MS, it's different. - inactive, on 05/21/2008, -13/+24Just don't buy an MS media system... problem solved
Me myself I prefer my G5 linked to my TV with content coming from TVtorrents, UK Nova and Demanoid. Job done and till I can find a viable legitimate alternative then I'll continue getting my entertainment this way. - oMeSSiaHo, on 05/21/2008, -11/+22iPod touch
1) release product then in a few months release exact same product with extra software that was available at the initial release
2) charge early adopters for the software that new users get for free
3)force people to use your file format and make them have to use a credit card to get album art
Zune
1) release product that plays many formats then release second generation with new features
2) give new features to older product for free
3) not be a dick hole
Your argument is invalid anyway since microsoft doesnt block content anyway. Yeah they could, but they dont so STFU. - TheZorch, on 05/21/2008, -8/+19There are two ways to fix this:
1. Use an alternative to Windows Media Center. MediaPortal is free, has all of the same features, but you'll need to install codecs so it doesn't use the system default which won't get rid of the Broadcast Flag issues.
2. Using MythTV is the ONLY way to ensure you don't run into Broadcast Flag speed bumps, but this requires Linux so you poor deluded "a PC must only run Windows" fools will have to suffer with WMC and its Broadcast Flag support or embrace an alternative which I listed above.
The point here is that Windows isn't exactly "ready for the desktop" either and the more things like this that keep popping up sticking with Linux is starting to look more and more attractive. So, would you rather have to learn a whole new OS without restrictions or suffer using an OS which keeps getting more and more restrictive as times goes by. I don't know, maybe some of you Windows people are masochists or something. - pickles46, on 05/21/2008, -5/+16Canonical needs to make a linux media center lol.
- oxdeltaxo, on 05/21/2008, -3/+14Exactly, it's not like you must use m$ products. You can use any number of other services some of which are free, such as MythTV.
- AlmtyBob, on 05/21/2008, -3/+14Anyone else stop reading after the horrible usage of "literally"?
- EntropyFan, on 05/22/2008, -1/+11While you are correct, people (around here anyway) only believe the 'oh we don't like DRM too' when it is Mr. Jobs doing the talking.
Even though he has, and continues to be, the biggest pusher of DRM on the market.
But again, around here, you'll get "Apple has no choice. It's not their fault"
But only for Apple. - alwaysmc2, on 05/21/2008, -1/+11You already do... ALL of the video downloads form iTunes are DRM'd. I wouldn't blame that on Apple, though, any more than I would blame any of this nonsense on Microsoft.
- flatlinebb, on 05/21/2008, -17/+27Done - Windows Vista is officially boycotted in my house - as it has been since it came out. This was easy, can I help out with anything else?
- banmaster, on 05/21/2008, -16/+26So, um, how can I possibly record TV using Media Centre built into Vista then??
Sorry, but the article (or rather some dopey little prat's anti-MS screeching) is just plain FUD. Then again, what else is one supposed to expect from badvista.whatever, where they turn a federally mandated (and very crappy) decision into an anti-MS rant fest. Any legally produced linux PVR software would have to adhere to the same thing too, but of course they fail to mention this, what a surprise.
You think MS actually wants to stop you recording shows? Its just like the ***** sony and the bluray/hd dvd bastards made them do to ensure the HD stream is completely encrypted from its trip from the HD-drive to the monitor (the video driver is polled every 30ms to make sure its not 'hacked' for example), and yet it was MS that got the blame, rather than the ***** media companies and their sycophantic lobyist bribe takers in washington.
When will the linux fanboys actually stop spreading misinformation because they #1 have small penises, and #2 are sad because most people don't want to be put to huge inconveniences if they chose to use linux over their current OS that works just fine and lets them do everything they ever want to already. - banmaster, on 05/21/2008, -16/+26Hmmm, so what does everyone think their beloved Apple would do differently eh?
Nothing, thats right, absolutely nopthing, and yet you stupid sycophantic fanboys will somehow manage to turn a lack of ability to record on any apple device into a positive while still screeching at MS for doing the same. - JasonCox, on 05/21/2008, -23/+32Stop bitching at Microsoft, they arent the ones who fraked up the broadcast flag.
- cdawzrd, on 05/21/2008, -3/+12MythTV's interface kinda sucks in my opinion, especially compared to MediaPortal or Media Center. Just sayin'...
- roysorlie, on 05/21/2008, -2/+11It already has, it's called Mythbuntu.
Alternatively, both Ubuntu and Kubuntu work well as Media Centers with a little tweaking. - Gndoab, on 05/21/2008, -3/+11yeah, but MS could have told them to shove it. They own 90% of the computer market. Who do you think would cave first?
- FredFredrickson, on 05/21/2008, -15/+23And if they didn't use DRM, movie and TV studios wouldn't sell their ***** to be used on those devices... so it's not really MS's fault. Every other company does the same anyway, but for some reason it's always a cluster-***** whenever someone mentions Microsoft. As if Apple and their Fair Play ***** is any better. Seriously.
- akatherder, on 05/21/2008, -0/+8I literally flew off the handle when I read that.
- inactive, on 05/21/2008, -2/+10As zealous as it sounds, It's about as true as it gets: If you're OS vendor is a greedy corporation (read: greedy, not just a corporation) then you're at risk to losing rights (You already do at this point!)
- inactive, on 05/21/2008, -2/+10One word, mythtv. That is, if you want a box that plugs in to your TV and does what you want it to. I used to keep up with knoppmyth at http://www.mysettopbox.tv and it's a nice turnkey distro for most hardware. DRM free.
- mpam, on 05/21/2008, -7/+14To all ppl burying this one: it's a joke, smart boys.
- DickBreath, on 05/21/2008, -2/+9Watermarking == bad.
It is deliberately distorting the quality of the real content.
DRM Free is the way to go. Big media is slowly, kicking and screaming, beginning to realize this. - ratbear, on 05/21/2008, -1/+8God damn I hate the FSF.....a bunch of egotistical geeks that think proprietary software is tantamount to human slavery. One day I will laugh when no one gives a ***** about freaking software "freedoms", as they rightfully shouldn't. I mean cmon, listen to yourselves. We are talking about software for ***** sake. Let's just say it's not the most prominent of social ills.
- geobay, on 05/21/2008, -0/+7I literally punched my monitor.
- jon61575, on 05/21/2008, -3/+10Its more like you have to buy your clothes through Microsoft and then you can't borrow those clothes to your brother or donate them because only you are licensed to wear them.
- luchid, on 05/21/2008, -0/+6So? If MS cared even a tiny bit about their customer base they would refuse to implement it. They have the leverage and user base to pull it off. Yet they keep biting the hand that feeds them.
- kineticarl, on 05/21/2008, -4/+10Don't you know? Think brainwashed, er, I mean *different*.
- luchid, on 05/21/2008, -2/+8Hundreds of millions have MC? LOL
- whisperedlie, on 05/21/2008, -3/+9scaling back to watermarking, not good enough.
give an inch, they take a mile.
It's ludicrous that I must be marked or tagged simply because I chose to consume something. Anonymity and privacy are vital components of freedom. - zenerdiode, on 05/21/2008, -0/+6No it doesn't. You should go reread my post. The EyeTV only receive CLEAR QAM which is supremely rare since Comcast and other cable companies have long wised up and now encrypt their QAM. If you are currently receiving unencrypted premium QAM, don't expect to receive in the future. Cable companies are slowly but surely upgrading their systems.
I re-iterate: The ONLY legal way to receive HBO and other premium cable HD shows is with a CableCard 2.0 tuner. The only CableCard 2.0 tuners in existence ONLY work with Vista MCE. On top of that, it only works with OEM systems from a few manufacturers. You cannot even buy one for your home built PC. -
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