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- danakin, on 10/12/2007, -33/+218The Best Buy near me had a Mac section with a machine that had a grey kernel panic screen on it, but it doesn't make it Digg-worthy.
Yawn... - under_R_run, on 10/12/2007, -76/+239How is it that all Blue Screens are Microsoft's fault?
In my experience, 90% of the BSODs I run into have poorly written 3rd party device drivers to blame. - gcnaddict, on 10/12/2007, -41/+184"In my experience, 90% of the BSODs I run into have poorly written 3rd party device drivers to blame."
That system was designed by HP and Microsoft. All of the drivers on the system are signed and checked because of the work these two companies put into it (Four years of work went into it. Google the HP Athens concept). This bluescreen was most likely caused by bad hardware. - pleve, on 10/12/2007, -29/+112funny - when it is mac then it is user error - when it's MS then it is software design.
Double standard? - calebb, on 10/12/2007, -7/+69http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/windows_vista_aero_glass_performance/
Vista w/ Aero compared to Vista w/o Aero : 0% decrease in game FPS.
XP w/ eye candy (show contents of folders while dragging, etc) vs XP w/o eye candy: 5% decrease in game FPS.
Photoshop CS2 load time on Vista (w/ Superfetch enabled / default): less than 1 second.
Photoshop CS2 load time on same system (no Superfetch): 12 seconds.
... But I want all my memory FREE! I don't want Vista to pre-emptively populate my precious RAM with applications I might be using in the near future! - drmsux, on 10/12/2007, -14/+71Well, I hate to break it for all the Vista - haters around here, but..
1. Note the model name HP TouchSmart' on the stand
2. Google HP 'TouchSmart drivers' - get here: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareList?os=2093&lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&product=3351220&lang=en#
3. Download all driver packages, unRar them and notice .sys names
4. Find that package sp26870.exe 'HP Wireless LAN Driver' has the driver named 'ar5524.sys'
5. Look at the driver name in the picture
6. Notice that the driver is not Microsoft-made
7. STFU - sheldonwilson, on 10/12/2007, -6/+61It's an HP TouchSmart PC. It is not behind any glass. http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/07/microsoft-announces-the-hp-touchsmart-pc/
- ryodoan, on 10/12/2007, -7/+55the only time in recent memory that I have gotten a real, true blue screen of death is when I either
A. had my computer overclocked to far
B. Force installed a driver for the wrong operating system.
both my own fault. - trylleklovn, on 10/12/2007, -2/+49Why is it that HP computers always has to have a ton of stickers on them?
- loker269, on 10/12/2007, -20/+64I have seen the same on Macs here at Best Buy...it is just generally the fault of either idiot employees or idiot people walking by...
Vista may have faults but I think this is just user error... - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -15/+59You think the mac Grey Kernel Panic screen would make it to the front page of digg? lol
- GTPilot, on 10/12/2007, -17/+59"You know, not many people know about Mac's gray screen..because you know why?"
because not as many people use mac? - selrahc, on 10/12/2007, -13/+55It's quite possible it was done on purpose by a couple of bored teenagers too.
- undersky, on 10/12/2007, -2/+38@ sp4nk
not true. SONY puts the most craps on your computer. From the following site it states that Sony even goes as far as to preload your computer with over FOUR GIGABYTES of movies (taking up your space) that you can't watch unless you pay, calling it "a key differentiator for our products in the marketplace, which we have found that many VAIO customers greatly appreciate."
http://www.computers.net/2007/04/new_computers_c.html
I will never buy a SONY computer... - ShrimpCrackers, on 10/12/2007, -7/+38Digg me down but I'm sure it was bad drivers that made the blue screen famous.
Personally the only time I've blue-screened in the last 7 years was just that exactly.
Cheap third party components (tacked onto major brand computers sometimes) provide horrific drivers complete with memory leaks and what have you. - sheldonwilson, on 10/12/2007, -2/+32Boy, it sure takes a genius to do that. Oh, and all they have to do is reboot it. All the Best Buy displays have Deep Freeze on them. You sure are teh l33t.
- Sp4nk, on 10/12/2007, -1/+31It was probably all the bloated ***** that came with the machine. I think out of all the major computer manufacturers out there, HP and Toshiba put the most garbage on your system right out of the box. But hey, maybe there really is somebody out there who needs four disc burning programs, eight media players, three virus protection packages, and two trial word processors on their one computer.
- NewChar, on 10/12/2007, -9/+39I was at a Best Buy in Wisconsin about a month ago and saw the same model PC as in this pic (HP Touch-Screen thing) with Aero turned off, a heavily customized theme with the ugliest shades of purple and gray you can imagine, the weather on the built-in HP utility set to Cupertino, CA, and a billion IE windows showing Apple.com. Yes, a Best Buy PC was defaced by an Apple fanboy. Sad stuff. Not sure if it's more pathetic than this blue screen or not.
- planetbeing, on 10/12/2007, -9/+38This is just FUD. From the screen, it looks like the BSOD was caused by some file called ar5210.sys. A lot of people have problems with ar5211.sys; a lot of BSODs with it according to Google. It's a wireless driver created by Atheros. It's not Microsoft's fault if other people write crappy device drivers. Device drivers run at the kernel level and can do anything to the computer and operating system they want. It's impossible for Windows to do anything to prevent them from completely crashing the system. If someone wrote a bad driver for Linux and you installed it, you'd just as readily get a kernel panic, which is the Unix version of the BSOD.
- teqonix, on 10/12/2007, -3/+31Gah, is it just me, or is that one of the ugliest kiosks/computers you've ever seen? Blue screen nonwithstanding.
- mbthompson, on 10/12/2007, -15/+39@linkedlist
Absolutely agree with you, just um, I think you meant to say "I'll pour water" instead of "poor".
In other news I've upgraded my desktop to Vista and aside from a few small bugs I had to work out with games, I've been fairly pleased with it and its features. I'll be updating the laptop soon as well (yes I know about the power issues). - adidos, on 10/12/2007, -15/+38Anyone know where that pic was taken?
My buddy and I were at BestBuy last Sunday and saw that HP touch screen. It looked *really* sweet so I pressed the "Vista/start" button...then I got the BSOD. I'm wondering if I was the reason for this BSOD. Maybe it's just the crappy floor model all over the country though??? - subdir, on 10/24/2007, -10/+31Breaking News:
Mac OS X crashes -
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sasira/217196209/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/riggzy/471533902/ - meatmcguffin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19"to you two speak?"
What ***** language do you three speak? - Murdats, on 10/12/2007, -13/+31@mictester
I was wondering when the anti-ms army was going to turn up and bury everyone to hell.
you obviously have NFI what vista is, you have VERY obviously never used it and of course show your massive ignorance.
for one, most of the base code has been completly rewritten, networking support is much more reliable and efficient, the UAC prompts, after installing all your initial software are negligable, and vista uses memory effieciently, yes it uses a lot when your computers idle, but thats because its efficiently using your memory by precaching things it think you might use, load up a game, windows frees it all up again, load of firefox, its already in memory.
oh, and vista did take longer then 6 months.
please, return to your bay of trolls - squison, on 10/12/2007, -1/+18@trylleklovn-"Why is it that HP computers always has to have a ton of stickers on them?"
Stickers make it go faster. Ask anyone with a riced out Civic. - Branden, on 10/12/2007, -5/+20I bet you are the coolest kid on your block. /sarcasm
- Goldspink, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16@trylleklovn
Those are load-bearing stickers. - selrahc, on 10/12/2007, -4/+18I'm not surprised either... you should see what happens to the video game consoles and their controllers at these big stores. Electronic equipment does not last long when its been sent to serve its duty as a demo unit.
- specialK16, on 10/12/2007, -4/+18I had a teacher who kept saying Windows is all about blue screening. Of course he was an idiot who kept saying Linux is not free anymore and that the word "driver" is inexistent in Linux.
- betterth, on 10/12/2007, -15/+29@mictester
The ironic part is, if Apple has unveiled this rather effective program precaching tool making all Apple computer's use lots of memory when idle to precache your most used programs for faster loading, it'd be hailed as the awesome, secret new feature of their latest couple hundred dollar expansion pack! When Microsoft does something clever, you just yell at the OS for being a memory hog.
Vista is by far my favorite operating system that I've used. I use OSX at work and Sabayon Linux on my desktop, and neither do what my desktop does, because my desktop with Vista runs all the programs that OSX does and hundreds more (All my games, thankfully). A lot of people think similarly, too.
I have a decently good computer and 2GB memory and my frame rates are rarely more than 5 below my friends with similar setups and running XP. It's a testament to the operating system that a brand new operating system is almost as efficient as one that has been through six years of improvements.
Stop being a stereotypical fourteen year old anti-Microsoft troll for half a minute and actually try out some products. Even if you don't think Vista is the best, there's no arguing that Office 2007 is light years ahead of the competition. - loker269, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16pleve I should have been clearer...I meant both Vista and OSX were probably caused by user error in relation to Best Buy kiosks BSODing or kernel panic screening...
- qazyhoods, on 10/12/2007, -10/+23"quick! let's lock up this computer, then take a picture to make vista look bad!"
- deadpixel, on 10/12/2007, -18/+29LOL i have vista and it works just fine... after you turn off all the new vista stuff.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -13/+24our store's hasn't crashed yet, but I truly find the touch screen worthless, at least we blocked myspace from it :)
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+15Linux does too:
http://www.miguelcarrasco.net/miguelcarrasco/2006/10/linux_crash_top.html
When, oh when will the OS p*ssing contests end? - meatmcguffin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11@murdats
I did tell you exactly what happens. Use activity monitor, which is built into OS X, to end a thread/process/whatever. If it's important to the system, you need to enter your password to escalate permissions, the process with then end and afaik, a deamon called Launchd will restart the process automatically.
If OS X cannot run without this process then activity monitor will log you out when you end that process. It gives you a chance to save your work and puts you at the login screen.
If you mess around will killall commands in the terminal then you *might* run into problems but using the proper method will never ever give you a kernel panics or a bluescreen; just a friendly logout. - meatmcguffin, on 10/12/2007, -6/+16"99% of the time I have bsoded is when ive run around killing random handles in system processes (dont ask why).
tell me how a mac would deal with that?"
A mac won't let you unless you had admin permissions, or possibly root permissions. If it's an important process, it will warn you first and, if you agree, it will ask if you want to save all your documents, log you out and put you at the login screen.
That's how a well designed system handles this. - ldburton, on 10/12/2007, -5/+151999 called, they want their BSOD jokes back.
- BlackAdderIII, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11It's a good photo, that's fair, but "Computer somewhere crashes." didn't float my boat enough for the digg. Sorry about that.
- sonofalink, on 10/12/2007, -6/+15@murdats
"for one, most of the base code has been completly rewritten"
I call BS on that one. The base code was re-factored, which does not mean re-written. It was merely cleaned up and commented. - pantsbandit, on 10/12/2007, -8/+16What difference does the place have to do with it? It's exactly these tactics that make the linux + mac people look like a bunch of ego-inflated noobs. They fancy themselves hackers, but don't know linux+mac kernel panic in the same situations MS OS's bluescreen, what a joke. It's just that no one in their sane mind would run these systems on most public displays because they are useless to your average consumer who wants to do office, media AND games, not just one office work. I'd rather have a useful system that blue screens, than a useless one that kernel panics. digg me done now, before you're forced to deal with the facts.
- Sethwm2, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12Most BSODs are memory issues or other hardware. So Most likely HP is to blame for this one.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11"At least the hardware works. ;)"
uh yeh, that makes sense. - SPECOPS, on 10/12/2007, -5/+12I have to hand it to MS, at least the BSOD shows some sort of information as to why the kernel panic happened. On my Mac, it just says in 4 different languages that ***** hit the fan and to power off. Both of them at least report the logs back to MS/Apple, so that's a good direction, but at least on the BSOD, I can see if it's a driver problem or what-not, before having to bring the system back up.
- orbit1979, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11At least the mac "blue screen" is written in several different languages! :p
- kidd3ckz, on 10/12/2007, -6/+13@selarhc or w/e
we usually put up tubgirl/goatse.... crashing the system is a lot less entertaining... - thurows, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Does a box pop up asking the user if they'd like to "cancel or allow" the blue screen of death?
- sbmtool, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10Holy *****. Did u try Vista ever?? If yes, for how long??? How many times did your *ucking PC crashed?? I am using it for good 6 months now, and I haven't seen it crash even once. When people at MS do such a hard job of creating something, people like you can just laugh your ass off because of the Anti-MS wave you are riding in. Get a life and use Linux if u want to be happy. Why blame MS if you are happy with a free OS. I like Linux as well, but I don't curse Microsoft just for the heck of it. You like free stuff, right??? This advice is also free. Like it moron!!
- flycycle, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9I've seen those screens on my ibook and macbook pro, but only due to hardware problems - knackered logic board on the ibook and bad ram in the mbp.. macs aren't perfect by any means, but the OS itself is solid as a rock in my experience.
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