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- num3thod, on 03/28/2008, -5/+137In other news: 29% of Linux crashes caused by ATI drivers
- mrroarke, on 03/28/2008, -3/+83And the remaining 71% is caused by the trifecta of ***** that is Quicktime, Acrobat Reader and Norton Antivirus.
- DiggOrNotToDigg, on 03/28/2008, -36/+104Vista is a very good operating. I don't know why people bash it so much.
- tsalti, on 03/28/2008, -25/+86My Vista has never crashed and I have an nvidia card.
- 9bpm9, on 03/28/2008, -12/+64Haven't experienced a single crash on Vista. Intel processor and an Nvidia graphics card.
- saxreturns, on 03/28/2008, -7/+59Bad fanboy! That's a very bad fanboy! No! NO!
- fuzed, on 03/28/2008, -13/+64My 8600GTS with Windows Vista x64 has yet to crash - and my box has been up 24x7 for months - no reboot. Dugg down for more anti-Vista propaganda drivel
- inactive, on 03/28/2008, -4/+44HEY! the internet is serious business. don't come in here making jokes and *****. that'll get you shot.
- ohplease, on 03/28/2008, -2/+41One of the major problems with XP/2003 was the permission for hardware vendors to write kernel mode drivers. To quiet complaints of BSODs from users and administrators alike, Microsoft has moved drivers out of kernel mode, starting with Vista. This has lead to device vendors having to rewrite their drivers, which some of them have done a very poor job at doing. People will still blame MS though, because it's easier to be 3dgy than to know what you're talking about.
- lukas88, on 03/28/2008, -4/+42I have never had vista crash, but I have had my display drivers crash (nvidia).
The amazing thing? Even after the display drivers crash, windows doesn't crash. The screen just shuts off for 5 seconds and comes back on with the message "Your display drivers stopped working and were reloaded." This only happened a couple times with a particular game.
Honestly, I can't remember being more impressed with the stability of an OS. - jaxter2010, on 06/17/2009, -3/+41Its people like who ou give mac users a bad name. I don't go around telling people to get a mac anymore than i go around telling people to buy a mazda because its what i drive.
- dkoon, on 03/28/2008, -3/+33You guys are right! WTF is Microsoft thinking, everyone know that only Linux can blame everything on the hardware vendors.
- inactive, on 03/28/2008, -1/+29It's funny because it's true. 99% of Linux users recommend NVIDIA over ATI.
- turpenine, on 03/28/2008, -1/+27yes.
- K31TH3R, on 03/28/2008, -2/+23NVLDDMKM.sys has stopped working. The display driver has stopped responding and has recovered successfully (OH GUESS NOT HUGE BSOD AND CRASH ANYWAY)
- PueSi, on 03/28/2008, -4/+22Because they hate Microsoft, everything Microsoft does no matter how good/bad it is it's gonna be bashed.
The Zune and Vista are examples of products that have been treated unfairly. - joeyslack, on 03/28/2008, -13/+30What a terribly flawed article. NVIDIA happens to be the leading manufacturer of stand-alone graphics card units, who happens to release drivers at the greatest frequency. This pace matched with the unknown stability of Vista is sure to cause a great amount of crashes. Duh?
- saxreturns, on 03/28/2008, -2/+19Firstly, you can't define which OS is 'better' - that's incredibly vague, there are so many different factors that determine which OS is right or more useful for each individual user that you can't broadly define one OS as 'the best'.
Secondly, your opinion is just that - one opinion. You shouldn't claim to know what's best for everyone, because if you do, either in real life or on digg, you'll get flamed for acting stupid and arrogant. - asspants, on 03/28/2008, -8/+23
http://digg.com/security/PWN2OWN_Mac_OS_X_First_to ... - jmbillings, on 03/28/2008, -0/+15dugg for "trifecta".
I do love when people ask me to help with their pc being crap and tell me all proud-like "I've got Norton though". - poidh, on 03/28/2008, -5/+19My Vista is far, far better than my XP. The only problem I had was at the begining when I had nVidia nTune installed. As soon as I got rid of that = no crash in a year.
- Shadowgamers, on 03/28/2008, -5/+19Did they just condense what Ars wrote? :o
- Devrdander, on 03/28/2008, -5/+19There are other critical numbers missing here, like the fact that nVidia had a 29% market share versus ati's 20, and how many of those crashes were on embedded versus stand alone high end cards? I would wager that the majority of the crashes were during game play and that it's so high due to the fact nvidia still has a dominant hold amongst the high end graphics market. They also fail to mention that nvidia's drivers for most of 07 were considered and labeled "beta"
- inactive, on 03/28/2008, -2/+15Am I reading this right : linux can crash ? OMG !
- slaystench, on 03/28/2008, -3/+16Because the people bashing it hate Microsoft or have old computers? =p
- slippiefist, on 03/28/2008, -1/+14"actually know which is better"
In your opinion. - TheG2, on 03/28/2008, -1/+13I run Vista as well, and minus the ATI driver problems, its incredibly stable and solid. The FUD is just that.
- BlackKnight6, on 03/28/2008, -0/+12Here is a tip, disable superfetch, it preloads programs you run alot. That way when you boot up, you have a bunch of RAM doing nothing and then you can run your programs and have to wait while they get put on the RAM........or just realize that superfetch is a great feature and quit looking at the amount of free RAM. When you are running so many programs that they needs that "superfetched" RAM, Vista will release it nearly instantly.
- insertAliasHere, on 03/28/2008, -3/+14I'm digging you down, and I've own a mac (C2D Mac Mini) since last june. I love it; I use it as my desktop at home. It's NOT PERFECT!!! I use a Dell Vista laptop as well, and I like them both a lot. Get over yourself, and stop thinking that your OS choice is a religion.
- slippiefist, on 03/28/2008, -2/+11I must've got lucky, because Vista has never crashed for me. And I have an NVIDIA graphics card as well. No problems here.
- ligyron, on 03/28/2008, -1/+10No, Mac "dudes" don't go to parties. They stay at home and write programs and paint pictures with their Mac
- saxreturns, on 03/28/2008, -2/+11No OS is ever the 'best', it's a question of what works for you, based on personal preference and what you want to use your computer for.
- Xplodzion, on 03/28/2008, -11/+20"nVidia drivers are so much more better than ATI's" - nVidia fanboy.
- Phocion55, on 03/28/2008, -1/+10Your system is clearly running on witchcraft.
- saxreturns, on 03/28/2008, -0/+9I'm burying you on a MacBook Pro I've been using solidly for a year. People who are burying you aren't even necessarily 'talking *****' about it - you're just assuming that because you're being arrogant.
I love having a Mac; I hate the fact that some people lump me in with idiotic Mac users like you just for having one. - inactive, on 03/28/2008, -6/+15partially unstable yet usable Windows box > unusable OSX box
- antich, on 03/28/2008, -0/+8"Is it really using 400MB more of RAM, just because it's there?"
Pretty much. Vista is designed to aggressively use all the RAM available. The more you pop in, the more it uses. - TheG2, on 03/28/2008, -1/+9Thats funny, because my Zune is great and beats the hell out of the iPod.
- sgtpppr, on 03/28/2008, -0/+8And writing in their livejournals about cutting.
- Shadowgamers, on 03/28/2008, -0/+8Don't forget blogging about how Microsoft is a big fat ugly bastard who nobody should be friends with
- fgsfds, on 03/28/2008, -0/+8Nividia has 62.14% of the market, while ATI has 30.92%. (Source: http://www.steampowered.com/status/survey.html )
That means that Nvidia has just over twice ATI's share, but has more than three times ATI's share in the crashes. That suggests that nVidia's drivers were an average of 50% more prone to crashes than ATI's drivers.
It's kinda funny, considering that ATI's drivers used to be the worst in the industry and nVidia's used to be the best. - l0k0, on 03/28/2008, -2/+10As biased as that is it really does apply to Linux. ATI's support for Linux is incredibly lazy.
- ZippyV, on 03/28/2008, -1/+9- Drivers can also crash because of broken hardware
- Microsoft's api's are tested for crashes: Sysinternals had an application that would send absolute garbage to the api's and test if it would return a proper error code or crash. - MacSuxWindozSux, on 03/28/2008, -0/+7Crashing nVidia drivers don't cause a system halt. Vista recovers the driver on the fly.
- jaxter2010, on 06/17/2009, -1/+8ah you ***** *****!
- poidh, on 03/28/2008, -2/+9One thing I found out - never install nTune.
- inactive, on 03/28/2008, -1/+8So in other words you agree with the implications that nVIDIA has poor driver QA and dumps beta drivers into the marketplace.
Vista can be the worst OS in the history of the universe - the impetus still falls on nVIDIA to properly test and confirm that what they are offering actually WORKS in the way they offer it.
I develop Palm software. Palm Hotsync is dreadful. Palm Desktop is dreadful. Has been since 3Com sold off their code. Is that my problem? Yes, because when my customers can't use my product, it's because my product doesn't work. They don't give a ***** if it's because some component that I tap into was broken after a major revision change - MY product isn't working up to their expectations and it's my problem (and my fault if I didn't test that it worked).
It's not ideal, and not really fair, but it's the way the world works. Sorry, nVIDIA. Hire more QA and put the damn brakes on your release schedule. - specialK16, on 03/28/2008, -2/+9"application support, drivers"
What the efff????
How much apps do work on Mac? Please tell me? And drivers? You don't even have to worry about drivers since the hardware is locked in anyways, if you think about it, even Vista has better driver support than OS X, since it supports a whole lot of different hardware while OSX supports only, well, Apple hardware. - BlackKnight6, on 03/28/2008, -0/+7I had the SAME thing happen to me. I was running the Crysis demo with my 7900GTX, and I kept minimizing Crysis and going to RivaTuner and kept overclocking my video card and going back to the game, well I went to far, screen went black, thought I was *****. Then my screen was on again, back to desktop, windows message along the same lines that the display drivers stopped working and were restored. I was even able to go back to crysis which was still running, I thought that was awesome....
- insertAliasHere, on 03/28/2008, -1/+8Have you ever even heard of a kernel panic? Probably not, because apple doesn't think you're smart enough to interpret their error messages. They just give you a grey screen telling you to reboot in a few languages:
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c319/oiw/106227_ ...
I know about it. I've gotten it a few times (actually more times than a bluescreen on my vista laptop, which is none). I have a newer intel Mac. I really like it, but I don't fool myself into thinking that it's perfect. -
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