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- diggapleaze, on 10/12/2007, -0/+91http://www.amazon.com/TrekStor-vibez-Player-Black-Silver/dp/B000KDZR5U/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/105-5826389-4311648?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1173406008&sr=8-1
200 Bucks aint bad for 12 GB of Linux-friendly perfection. I just wanted to alert the Digg/Linux community on this awesome find. AND NO, I don't work for this company, I just think it's a good thing to give these kinds of products good word-of-mouth advertising that they deserve. - Agret, on 10/12/2007, -1/+59@schoate09
Linux needs to give up on opensource? How freakin' dumb are you? - HalFTW, on 10/12/2007, -0/+45lol, just before I clicked on the Digg news page I was thinking about how I need a decent mp3 player that supports OGG and FLAC.
- mercurysquad, on 10/12/2007, -3/+38Signal to noise ratio: 90 dB
Not much useful for playing FLAC lossless if it can't play the full 16bit dynamic range. - rimco, on 10/12/2007, -0/+32Yeah, and $200 gets you 4 GB when buying an iPod Nano, and those are selling like hotcakes, so I don't think 12 GB for a couple benjis is all that bad as long as you're looking for a smaller-style player... not everyone wants a full-size iPod.
- brstilson, on 10/14/2007, -1/+31It's compatible with DRM. It's not like it adds it to all your non-drm music.
- fredxor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+29I have a Creative Zen Touch. It can play mp3s, wavs, and wmvs, but not oggs. There's no alternative firmware for it that will make it suck less (I've spent hours looking for stuff). The reason for this is probably because it's really hard to load the custom firmware onto the player (or so I've been told). The player, along with other Creative players, will work on Linux if you install Gnomad 2. That's the application that I use to transfer music to it from my Linux OS (Ubuntu Edgy).
There's some awesome firmware, known as Rockbox (http://www.rockbox.org/) that works on multiple players (there's a list on the site). It supports a whole slew of codecs, including ogg, flac, wav, mp3, acc, and a few others. I installed it on my sister's iPod, and it doesn't require any special software or drivers to transfer music to and from the player. The player will be detected as a removable drive after installing the firmware. - dacheetah, on 10/12/2007, -2/+24Re: Amazon's US$199 for this.
I am getting so damn sick of this message:
"Shipping: Currently, item can be shipped only within the U.S."
*cries* - JonForTheWin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+21Ogg and FLAC support helllllll yeah
- PsyQ, on 10/12/2007, -0/+19I've been using an iRiver iHP 120 for more than 4 years now. It played Ogg Vorbis right out of the box with the preloaded firmware and it could be hooked up as USB mass storage device (i.e. support for Linux, FreeBSD, OS X etc.)
About a year ago, I flashed it with Rockbox. I believe I now have FLAC support, a Game Boy emulator, lots of games, a far superior file browser, easier controls and an operating system I have the source code of. If you get a device that's supported by Rockbox, you can be very happy as a Linux user. And you won't have to fear that updates to the firmware stop simply because the company goes bankrupt. - schestowitz, on 10/12/2007, -6/+25It seems to have a little infection.
"For music purchased on the Internet: WMA-DRM9-compatible" - delsdog, on 10/12/2007, -7/+24My ipod works fine in Linux as well
- riccohasdug, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16FTA: Playable file formats: MP3, WMA, WAV, OGG, FLAC...
For music purchased on the Internet: WMA-DRM9-compatible
For music purchased and rented on the Internet: WMA-DRM10 compatible (Janus)
Compatible with Napster TO GO!
WMP playlist support (MTP)
All of that is out-of-the-box... these are all features that make it attractive to the Linux Desktop OS user...
Edit: I also realize that this entire post is going to become an iPod vs. Other flamewar :(
Edit: I'm sorry I answered...I'm a long-time Digg-user, but a short-time poster...I realize now that you were simply trolling :( - Wrathernaut, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16OGG.
FLAC.
'nuf said. - howrare, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15sizeasy can show you
http://www.sizeasy.com/page/comp/929 - IanCal, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15Se1zure, how about creative players? They work fine with gnomad out of the box.
- diggapleaze, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15Well if anyone like fredxor has an mp3 player that they're happy with that works well with Linux (i.e. is mounted as USB mass storage) and supports OGG playback, feel free to share the info with the community--list your brand and model! These companies need more community support--it's pretty sad that we have to flash the firmware on most players just to get basic functionality out of them (like ogg and UMS). We should be voting with our dollars instead.
- damentz, on 10/12/2007, -6/+20The box it comes in is also full of aids.
- geekchic, on 10/12/2007, -3/+17As they would say in the UK.... "Calm down dear, it's just a music player".
- nebunezzar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14Some of the cowon players look pretty sweet too and have good linux support. I'd love to get the vibez or a cowon player but my iPod just won't break.
- AICkieran, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15Which will be useful for people that have actually purchased any DRM music, either knowingly or not, you can't expect them not to include it because some people don't like it.
The target market to this is clearly linux users, so how much DRM music you think will end up on there? - supermajic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13anyone else think the 12gb of flash = huge?
- reclusivemonkey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13I think all Cowon's media players work with Linux as USB Mass Storage drives;
http://www.cowonglobal.com/
Not to mention that the Cowon A2 is the most kick ass PMP known to man... - InternetUser, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12Wow, this thing really has it all. If it sounds as good as my iRiver I'll definitely get one.. 12gb too, huge. I like this bit:
"The player's high performance 200 Megahertz (MHz) processor makes it suitable for parties, allowing two tracks to be played and cross faded simultaneously, for example."
and it has a 2nd headphone jack! - klepto, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11This is pretty cool, after two ipods broke on me, I've gave up on apple and refuse to buy anything from them again.
- jackuess, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11What makes this player more Linux friendly than any other random DAP who can act like an UMS?
- LocoMan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11@dacheetah
You can use some services like Masterdelivery (http://www.masterdelivery.com/) to get them. There are lots more, but that's the one I remember offhand because I used them last year to get my latest computer upgrade (mobo, vid card, CPU, RAM and HD) from amazon (well, tigerdirect trough amazon). You do have to pay a little extra for the service, though... but at least in my case was still cheaper than buying the pieces here in Venezuela. - oobuntu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10my iriver h140 with rockbox has ogg/flac support , still the best player after all these years.
works nicely with amarok too - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12I remember when the article first came on digg someone mentioned that it looks like it's pregnant.
...The design has not changed, and it still looks like it's pregnant. - Scyth3, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Apparently the submitter has never heard of any of iRiver's products. Ogg and FLAC has been supported by iRiver since it's beginning. Also, their mp3 players are far superior looking to what is linked.
- Wrathernaut, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9$20 FM plug-in chip should be available soon if not already.
- ubuwalker31, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Yes
- MotionAesthetic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7FYI, this uses the software which was meant for the Rio Karma successor. Importantly, it does GAPLESS out of the box - even on MP3s with the proper encoding (yeah, I know Rockbox does this too). I think it even has custom buttons.
It is indeed a very sweet machine... I hope enough people buy one to make them consider a larger HD version. - brstilson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Especially for $200. A 2GB flash stick was that much not too long ago. It's amazing to see how much flash memory's pricing is falling.
- EdLesMann, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7When you get it, please post a review. I know it may be a few weeks but it would be nice to see all of the features/uses that are not described..
- tonton2012, on 10/12/2007, -1/+812gigs and no moving parts has me sold! No hard drive means no moving parts that it probably has a better chance of working during my high altitude + low temperature expeditions. I will definitely consider this for my next MP3 player purchase
- Flamekebab, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Where can I get one in the UK and more importantly, how much will it set me back?
- fredxor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I meant wmas, not wmvs, it can't play video.
- AICkieran, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6And RockBox :-)
- Wrathernaut, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5IIRC, the M6 doesn't have true gapless play like this one. I've got gapless on my Karma, and it's something you can't go without when listening to a live or progressive album. The Wall deserves nothing less.
- velocitymonk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5The Digg headline suggests that the player uses flash for storage, but the cnet video review seems to indicate either a hard drive based player. The website doesn't actually swing the indicator toward one or the other, since the price indicates a hard drive (12GB of flash would be very expensive), but the battery life indicates possible flash involvement.
Anybody have any evidence indicating one or the other? - TripinVA, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I have a Linux-compatible MP3 player. The iAudio X5L supports OGG Vorbis and FLAC, is a USB Mass Storage device, has a 30GB hard drive, 35 hour battery life (their claim, not mine).
I can't say it's as pretty as the one in the article though. - Flamekebab, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Cheers, howrare!
So it's considerably larger than the Nano it would seem. Damnit. - chair, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I have a Cowon (aka iAudio) X5. It's quite good, it's a mass storage device, supports Ogg Vorbis and FLAC etc.
But with rockbox it's so much better. The two most important features for me are:
Replay Gain - For volume normalisation
Cross Feed - I can't listen to music on headphones without it. It crosses the left and right channels a bit, so that each ear gets some sound from the opposite channel. It's more natural, like listening to music from speakers.
You can also customise most of the interface and create your own WPS (While Playing Screen) - ray901, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5in the top right corner is a button for the English version
also a url for the states www.vibez.us on the page - imjustabill, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5@se1sure:
I can't think of one mp3 player that doesn't work with Linux, except maybe for the zune. Nearly all mp3 players just let you drag and drop songs on them, and iPods work fine with dozens of different media players for Linux. No extra downloads or flashing firmware. - brstilson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5"OGG and FLAC support only makes it a player with good codec support, which is great of course, but it has nothing to do with the Linux project."
from TFA:
Suitable for Windows® 98(SE)², ME, 2000, XP, Vista, Mac® OS X, ===>Linux® from Kernel 2.4.x - fluoro, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Yeah, he's right. This is nothing new. iAudio has been supporting Ogg, Flac, and USB mass storage for awhile. I have an iAudio X5 and it works perfectly with Linux.
Still, it definitely is nice to see more makers making devices that are friendly to all computers. vibez++ - brstilson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4have you EVER seen that silly question dugg up?
I haven't. - ray901, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4you guys are also the amazon reseller for Vibez
http://www.amazon.com/TrekStor-vibez-Player-Black-Silver/dp/B000KDZR5U/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-2183177-7158265?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1173446344&sr=8-1 -
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