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- BigBadger, on 10/11/2007, -2/+47> Yahoo. Likes Microsoft. Motto?
"We can't sell our souls twice, so we're selling yours instead!" - baalzebub, on 10/11/2007, -7/+46fsck yahoo, that place is nothing but a spamming ghetto anyway, and suggesting any user friendly Linux distro is a good answer considering the circumstances the person with computer problems was in...
- IphtashuFitz, on 10/11/2007, -2/+38@Stonedonkey
Did you bother to read Amandas account at http://amandakerik.wordpress.com/2007/04/23/yahoo-answers-is-rejecting-open-source-options-in-answers/ ? Her response to the question included the following:
"If you buy the XP disks you just get that - XP. No MS office, no other programs other than the very basics.
If you’re starting over anyways, grab a blank CD and use imgburn ( http://imgburn.com/ ) to burn an Ubuntu ( http://ubuntu.com/ ) or Kubuntu ( http://kubuntu.com/ ) .iso on there. "
After getting spanked by Yahoo for supposedly violating their ToS she searched the posted ToS and the only thing she said she could have violated was something having to do with “trading programs”. If suggesting the use of freely downloadable software is "trading programs" then Yahoo deserves to be smacked upside the head as hard as they possibly can be. She suggested both Windows AND Ubuntu, so how can you accuse her of hawking another OS? - shrewduser, on 10/11/2007, -2/+35i only use yahoo to search for "google".
- nubnub, on 10/11/2007, -5/+33Google > Yahoo
- DickBreath, on 10/11/2007, -7/+34So let's see.
Google. Likes Linux. Motto: "Don't be evil."
Yahoo. Likes Microsoft. Motto? - Dankoozy, on 10/11/2007, -5/+24interesting.. this is only about their 'answers' service though. google should have kept that service open. big mistake, now yahoo are the only ones left doing it
- Garfunkel, on 10/11/2007, -2/+19hahah oh how much i hate yahoo...
They and microsoft are loosing to google at every turn simply because google does not involve itself in this junk, never has and hopefully never will. Yahoo and microsoft's crappy "live" service will never be considered on google's level and it's making it even worse when they aggravate their users like this.
More people should file class actions or things against companies that do this, it is clearly anti-competitive and unwarranted.
Well, that's made me despise yahoo more! I think i will go give some more ad revenue to google for allowing me to discuss what ever darn freaking bit of software i freaking choose to discuss. - HMTKSteve, on 10/11/2007, -1/+16Let's get this party started: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070622031218AAgTONd&pa=FYd1D2bwHTHwLLhjFO06QrC.kNl60.wHQLAJd6GJIgatwg--&paid=asked&msgr_status=
That Yahoo Answers question is about choosing between BSD, Windows and Linux for a web server. Keep it clean people, keep it clean! - ButterBuddha, on 10/11/2007, -4/+18Its time for Diggers to clog Yahoo Answers with questions about how Microsoft sucks.....
- brundlefly76, on 10/11/2007, -2/+15I worked at Yahoo as an engineer, and the entire infrastructure is built on Open Source (FreeBSD, PHP, Apache, MySQL, Perl...), and engineers such as Jeff Freidl ("Mastering Regular Expressions"), Derek Balling and Jeremy Zawodny ("High Performance MySQL") are the top dogs in their area.
Whats more, Yahoo! has donated *very* generous gifts to certain key open source programmers in the past as nothing more then a 'thank you' for their work.
So, to start developing evil conspiracy theories based on the actions of one editor on one of the hundreds of Yahoo! properties is to pretty much ignore the history of Yahoo! - SignorDildo, on 10/11/2007, -2/+12I still remember all the "Can't view me Yahoo! Webmail with Firefox" questions a while back when Yahoo! were really touting IE7. Then folk finally got Firefox (and one or two other browsers) working by changing the client string - with absolutely NO adverse side effects.
Stinks of rot. - Illidan, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9Maybe policy changed?
- BigBadger, on 10/11/2007, -4/+13I only use yahoo to grab my porn, and even that I have all forwarded to Gmail.
- straps, on 10/11/2007, -4/+12TODO Next:
- Create a Yahoo Account
- GoTo Yahoo Answers
- Ask: "I'm using Windows (not true); How can I switch to Linux? Thanks"
- Wait for a response
- Delete Yahoo Account - Illidan, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7I commonly use a Kubuntu 7.04 livecd anytime I have a problem with any OS (including Windows) that won't boot. It can be used kind of like a high-quality of assortment of professional-grade tools that can be set up anywhere.
- daftman, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7That means I have to get a yahoo account. No thanks!
- airjaw, on 10/11/2007, -4/+10yahoo sucks.. I stopped using it when they helped China throw that journalist into prison.
- Illidan, on 10/11/2007, -3/+9What about the fellows who suggested using a liveCD OS to recover data? I'm sure they'd have been perfectly happy to suggest a Windows liveCD, assuming Microsoft would provide one. For free. .. or at all.
- author20, on 10/11/2007, -3/+8There is no hope for Yahoo. Their corrupt and pathological culture seems to have gripped the company's heart, dooming them to a certain failure in the future. I met with Yahoo management, and I talked to the manager of one of their now-discontinued products and I found their culture to be very unprofessional, arrogant, ignorant and anti-business. And -- also -- anti consumer. The Yahoo Paydirect product manager had no experience in marketing, didn't know anything about paypal, and the service was killed in less than 14 months. Yahoo spams AT&T customers in a very bad way, and Yahoo abuses their users with spam and email service disruptions. Yahoo is just as rotten as AOL and if they purchase MySpace, it will save everybody time when both go out of business at the same time. Divest, boycott and spread the word to everybody that Yahoo is rogue.
- Sudha, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5seach for linux inside http://answers.yahoo.com/search/search_result;_ylt=AhqLvkJfA2IfxSy5hIkNcY3py6IX?p=linux
- Phssthpok, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6[[That's not censorship. That's just a harsh way of maintaining the quality of their answer service. When I ask for help about Windows I would want to get help for my Windows problem.]]
>>>>> unsolvable Windows problems, since that user did not have a Windows install disc.
What magic is available if you have no windows disc? *Any* tech worth their experience would say to download Bart's or Linux. Since Bart's is technically copyright violation, Linux is a fantastic choice.
{{Suggesting to run Linux just isn't very useful.]]
In your opinion.
Facts are facts. If you use Microsoft you need to go to a store and buy a disc. With Linux you can download and burn to a disc in a much shorter time. - MeneerR, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Its not about liking Microsoft or Linux. LIKING is FINE.
Its about censoring and pretending it does not exist.
Interestingly, not even Microsoft does this.
If you search live.com for Ubuntu you get quite good results.
Its just Yahoo that, once again, shows they are completely incompetent dealing with a community.
Off course they cater for the slavish, dumb, un-emancipated user. But still, these users are not good for your profit. They have zero loyalty. Unlike the typical Google fanboys.
So the people that should be upset, with this type of policy and strategy, would be Yahoo Shareholders.
No sane person is using Yahoo anyway. And all though dumb users are more easy money-extractors, they no long term loyalty. Hence, bad long-term strategy. - perlfu, on 10/11/2007, -3/+7Yeah, seems sort of hypocritical for a company who depends on FreeBSD for their commercial/serving infrastructure to bash open source alternatives.
- Ratteler, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Really, who the hell has used Yahoo since Google proved they were better.
Come to think of it, back in my dial up days I still used Alta Vista rather than Yahoo.
Let them get in bed with the empire.
"The more you tighten your fist, the more systems will slip through your fingures." -Liea
and as for Yahoo...
Lando: "That wasn't part of our arangment."
Vader: "I have altered our arangment. Prey I dont alter it further." - williamdyer, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4No, bots use Yahoo. There aren't any people left in the chatrooms.
- Yage2006, on 10/11/2007, -5/+9People use yahoo ?
- Garfunkel, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4yah, i was surprised too, it's a strange world we live in.
I would even use live search over yahoo, i mean live!? That just proves how shonky it is! - Soriven, on 10/11/2007, -3/+6My guess is some low-paid comment moderator who doesn't really know much about technology got confused and thought the answer was promoting pirating software or something illegal.
While anything is possible, I sincerely doubt Yahoo! has an internal policy of seeking out and killing answers that reference open source software, if only for the fact that it would generate a huge amount of negative publicity. - tobdubois, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Because the best way for Digg to establish influence is to be online vandals and spammers...
- skippyatuw, on 10/11/2007, -3/+6Wait, people use Yahoo????
DRTA - cynicist, on 10/11/2007, -0/+36) Diggers who haven't read the story reply with their worthless opinions
- flipouk, on 10/11/2007, -4/+7With Google, we can reasonably be sure that they will never go to bed with Microsoft. With Yahoo, well... you don't know. I am a Yahoo user, but now, I will definitely switch. I won't wait to be trapped. Yahoo doesn't like the Mac or Linux (e.g. Yahoo Radio doesn't work with them). They barely stand Firefox etc. Google at least supports diversity and AFAIK, Google apps are really multiplatform.
- tobdubois, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Insult 2 birds with 1 stone, nice one! Another productive day for the gordonm, gratz.
- bjshively, on 10/11/2007, -4/+7The problem with this whole argument is that no one is considering the user's perspective.
Let's ignore the Windows V. Linux grudgematch and consider what would happen if you took a relatively novice user of Windows XP and dumped them onto a Linux distro. Even an extremely user-friendly one.
I understand why her comment was mod'ed out. She didn't answer the question. And the odds are, the person she was replying to was uninformed enough that she may have tried to listen and done more 'damage' (albeit reversible with even a small level of computer skill) to her system.
This story is stupid. It wasn't modded out because OMG YAHOO h8Z LinUx. It was modded out because it didn't answer the question, it put dangerous information in the hands of someone that likely had no idea how to use it appropriately, and it was completely off topic.
This is akin to me asking how to change the oil in my car and someone recommending that I go purchase a new one instead. Will it fix the problem? Sure. But... Thats not the point, is it? - coolbru, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Um, I have to say that Yahoo only did extremely good and generous stuff at Hackday London last weekend. Things don't get much more open - the guys that came off looking bad on the day were BT OpenZone and Cisco. http://hackday.org/
- ghall, on 10/11/2007, -4/+7Yahoo sucks anyway. If they want to be (more) retarded, fine by me. That's why we have Google.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2WOW, you know lot of Linux, you can install Linux safely on windows operating system & most of the Linux distributions allow you to do that with out even touching a byte on your windows partitions, and they will setup a boot loader so that you can safely reboot between windows and Linux.
But if you install windows after installing Linux, windows will remove Linux boot loader and it will install its monopoly boot loader which won't allow you to boot into Linux again (and you solve this problem with Linux installation cd's just by reinstalling a bootloader which won't hardly even take 10 seconds).
Please please do you homework before blatent comments, and this is not MS "Get the facts" campaign.
Bye. - Yuo122986, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2OWNED!
- cantormath, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2This is why the FOSS community does what it does......>>SCREW YAHOO!!!!!
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4Is not that bad that yahoo support microsoft but censoring answers is too far. Sorry yahoo, you aren't an alternative to google anymore.
- drzeus, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3In addition, PHP is the language of choice at Yahoo! and Rasmus Lerdorf, the creator of PHP, works for the company. Open source is strong at Yahoo, and I'm guessing that this incident is just an honest mistake by the moderators. Unfortunately, the Digg community like to latch onto these things and scream "EEEEEEEVVVVVVIIIIIIILLLLL! LET'S GET 'EM!" at every opportunity because it's make them feel powerful.
- dani8559, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2I'm going to have to go ahead and say that this was an isolated incident:
http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+site%3Aanswers.yahoo.com
Obviously with that many hits, I don't think ubuntu is a very taboo word on Yahoo answers. - tobdubois, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3So many people just jump to the extreme argument/conspiracy. The answer didn't actually answer the question directly. I got the same kind of answer when I asked how to set up something with telnet and linux: "You should be using SSH". Well, yes, that may be the case, but it didn't answer my question.
- gordonm, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Why not? Because it's ***** childish and stupid. Any more questions I can help you with?
- returnofajedi, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3Done.
- archimerged, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2This might be the original question:
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AmYG5FIWMu7xYAr8XE3dlxQjzKIX?qid=20070512210835AAMQL7z
Restoring Windows XP home with a pro disc?
I recently got a computer from a friend but it needs to be restored. The problem is he has none of the discs that came with it. It’s a Dell with XP Home edition loaded in it. I was gonna buy a friends Windows XP Pro edition disc for really cheap but i was wondering if i would be able to restore it’s system files with a XP pro disc?
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See also:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahoo_answers#Complaint_system
http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/answers/abuse/wrongful_violations.html
http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/answers/abuse/abuse-76594.html - dtribe, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3Yeah, that'll show 'em! ... :rolleyes:
- bitwiseplatypus, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2del.icio.us is owned by Yahoo!.
- Wakizaki, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1You don't need to install Linux over Windows, you can sink the Windows partition (assuming you got enough free space on that partition), make at least a swap and root partition for Linux, using a partition editor (GParted, for example). Heck, you don't need to install Linux anyway, heard about a Linux Live CD / Live DVD?
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