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- fatas, on 08/31/2008, -0/+18Quote "Separate wallpapers for each virtual desktop
I haven't found a way to display a different wallpaper for each virtual desktop. When I started using Linux in 2001 or so, this feature was common, as it helped differentiate each desktop. I would like to see it return to KDE."
lol I have been wishing for this in Gnome since the beginning, thanks KDE4 for making me feel less inadequate. - starsky51, on 08/31/2008, -0/+13In that case, I think you should change your icon from ubuntu to kubuntu :) http://www.kde-look.org/CONTENT/content-m1/m60752- ...
- 4DFX, on 08/31/2008, -1/+9@Wargasmic
I agree. The default KDE setting is terrible. I don't understand why they think they must have such a huge taskbar. But the good thing is you can change everything to gain so much screen space that GNOME will start to look like a "giant turd" after that. - ralph123, on 08/30/2008, -0/+8I think it's a driver issue with xv output and compositing enabled. Not much KDE can do about it.
An easy workaround is not to use xv output. - mynameistux, on 08/31/2008, -2/+7why can't we all just get along?
- Gavagai80, on 08/31/2008, -0/+5They stopped that already. Do you see a k in plasma?
I liked the k theme though, and gnome's g theme -- it let me know if I was going to be installing a gtk or qt program without having to read through descriptions. - JohnFlux, on 08/31/2008, -0/+5> in places where it is not used as the initial letter they capitalize it just to highlight its presence as in AmaroK
This was changes half a year ago or so. It's now just Amarok.
> Kopete doesn’t even have Gtalk protocol
Um, it's just jabber. And kopete supports jabber.
> Pick one either Dolphin or Konqueror:
Both Windows and Gnome (firefox) allow file navigation through the web browser as well - fearsofgun, on 08/31/2008, -7/+11KDE looks cool and all but gnome has a much more polished feel to it.
- smotpoker, on 08/31/2008, -0/+4...hence the request for improvements
- mrsteveman1, on 08/31/2008, -0/+4A competent set of developers could write something better in a few years max.
Apple and NeXT used their own solution, I've seen comments by the guy who wrote the OS X windowing system, and the reasons they avoided X11 when they were developing OS X are quite valid even today.
I think even Microsoft completely replaced their windowing system in Vista with the DWM stuff, and that was only 2-3 years of development time if i remember right.
It is a complete falsehood to suggest that just because X11 took this long to get where it is that any possible replacement would take the same amount of time. The Linux kernel is a lot more complex than X11 and it has evolved MUCH more in just the last few years than X11 has over its entire lifetime.
The only reason X11 is still in use is because it has momentum behind it, and every time some replacement has been proposed it has been met with criticism by the "nothing is wrong, no reason to change" people. Plus it's hard to get the multiple companies who use X11 to agree on a replacement, hence it hasn't happened. The fact is there IS plenty wrong with X11. Apple has had a compositing window manager since what like 2000? X11 still can't do it all that well and its 2008.
I don't get why people feel the need to defend X11, it sucks, face it. - Wargasmic, on 08/31/2008, -1/+5Kwhat Keveryone Ktalks Klike Kthis! Kperfectly Knormal.
- funklor, on 08/31/2008, -0/+3I think nVidia is a little obligated to you know, make the ***** you paid for work?
- SniperZero, on 08/31/2008, -2/+5KDE 3 still for the win me thinks. KDE 4 just isn't there yet.
- inactive, on 08/31/2008, -0/+3OSS fanboys run Ubuntu and scream out GO UBUNTU!!!!!!!!~ for no reason >_>
You telling me that because they don't know how means we should close the source so nobody knows what's going on? I like to look at and make use of Open Source code because unlike my own code it's been tested in various configurations. - MrTea, on 09/01/2008, -0/+2I tried KDE 4.1 when it was RC1 and I liked it too despite the nvidia problems (which were experienced by running open office and wine).
Also, the GTK apps looking like crap can be fixed by installing and using qtcurve. Instead of configuring kde4 to use kde themes in gtk apps, configure it to use qtcurve instead. - LightPhoenix, on 08/31/2008, -9/+11I would like it if KDE and users stopped naming every bloody program with liberal use of "K." It's not cute, it's annoying in general and confusing for new users when every program name is similar.
- smotpoker, on 08/31/2008, -0/+2You do realize you're responding to the question "what should we do?" with the answer "care what what we think you should do!" right? Just checking...
- inactive, on 08/31/2008, -1/+3Okay Over9000 (All people with Over9000* ish names dislike Linux. Coincidence?)
But we're not all OSS fanboys here, some of us are actually just advocates. I certainly don't think Linux is ready for the home userbase unless it comes preloaded and is already setup to be working, because Linux isn't easy to use.
The advantages of OSS really come in as a programmer - Ask any programmer who's used SDL or similar libraries, having Open Source libraries is great. - Kingoftherings, on 08/31/2008, -0/+2I agree, ther are too many ways to reconfigure KDE. Even in 4.1 in the Kicker menu there is Settings, System, and Utilities all right next to each other, and it's difficult to remember which is which.
- Wargasmic, on 08/31/2008, -1/+3Go back to 4chan fag.
- Gavagai80, on 08/31/2008, -0/+2Right, X has only taken 24 years to develop to this point so we can have a replacement ready for Christmas 2032 if we all work hard and the corporations get behind it.
- smotpoker, on 08/31/2008, -0/+2Sure, most of us do not edit the code ourselves most of the time but there are so many users that it only takes a small percentage of us reviewing/reporting bugs/fixes, editing occasionally and/or forking for everyone to benefit - and in the process those few benefit from knowledge/experience.
Not to mention we can make more direct feature requests/complaints as this submission is trying to illicit.
FOSS is about freedom and spreading knowledge... in more than one direction. - Vadi0, on 08/31/2008, -2/+41) Quit whining about nVidia, use non-buggy functions
2) Have a user-friendly developer attitude
3) Finish your HIG for gods's sake.
Yes, you read point #3 right. KDE 4.1, the "end-user" release, *does not have a finished HIG*. And they think *it's okay*. Just shows how far behind Apple and Gnome they are in terms of thinking about the user. - amoeba, on 08/31/2008, -1/+2I'm enjoying KDE 4.1 on Hardy Heron.
/compiz-fusion emerald theme manager ftw - silkysaul, on 08/31/2008, -0/+1I hate to digress.. but you notice how Windows doesn't start every app name w/ "W"? ;)
- ethana2, on 08/31/2008, -0/+1'GTK' apps look like crap /in gnome/. Firefox and OpenOffice are lame excuses for native applications, KOffice and Konqueror are not.
Part of why I'm eyeing KDE 4.2 is properly integrated stuff. - funklor, on 08/31/2008, -1/+2Give me a break. Aside from the first letter there is no similarity / confusion, you're not going to confuse KSnapshot with KAsteroids.
It's useful branding, when you see KWhatever you know its a KDE application. - MrTea, on 09/01/2008, -0/+1like plasma, gwenview, and phonon?
- MrTea, on 09/01/2008, -0/+1they are obligated and they are working on it
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px ... - sathyabhat, on 09/01/2008, -0/+1Right-click the panel -> Modify Panel settings. Click on the Cashew & choose Add Widget. Now Click minus on the Application Launcher and Double click Traditional Application Launcher.
that's it. - iofthestorm, on 08/31/2008, -1/+2Stupid blog post, but this one really pisses me off:
"4. KDE doesn’t necessarily come with the best softwares: KDE developers choose softwares on the basis whether or not they have an integral ‘K’ in it rather than the quality of software. So you will find softwares like Konqueror make the cut over Firefox, Kopete is the default IM client in place of Pidgin. Kopete doesn’t even have Gtalk protocol. Konqueror is fast but it doesn’t load all web pages, it has problems displaying even Gmail."
Well no *****, KDE is a desktop environment and they make all the pieces. Of course their packages are going to include only their software, would you expect GNOME to include Konqueror or Webkit or something? And in any case, it's the distro maintainer that decides what's installed by default in a distro. And finally, there is no "GTalk protocol," it's just XMPP. Pidgin adds an option for GTalk that just fills in the server part properly. I use Pidgin (no Kopete for Windows, which I'm in most of the time, and in any case Kopete feels confused whenever I use it). - Kingoftherings, on 08/31/2008, -0/+1I just tried out KDE 4.1 a couple days ago, and I actually like it. I've always been a Gnome user, but KDE 4.1 is really nice, Its much better than 3.5 and 4.0. The only problem I have with it right now is my GTK applications look like crap, but it should be an easy thing to fix.
- Codename, on 09/06/2008, -0/+1The desktop effects need to be polished, every time I do a desktop cube my screen goes black and I have great specs over $1900 machine, but when I run Gentoo or Ubuntu everything runs perfectly.
- klitzbtc, on 08/31/2008, -0/+1HOWTO: Multiple wallpapers in Kubuntu Gusty+Compiz-Fusion
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=655326
Let me know if that helps you out. - KAMiKAZOW, on 08/31/2008, -0/+1It depends which features you use. Honestly: I can't imagine no longer using Folder View.
- gdonald, on 08/31/2008, -1/+2My wish list is quite simple, stability:
http://destiney.com/blog/kde-4-1-is-broken-just-li ... - klitzbtc, on 08/31/2008, -0/+1I'd really just like to have solid stability in the KDE 4.2 desktop. I'd like to get into the new KDE desktop, it's just not there yet.
- fucter, on 08/30/2008, -0/+1I would like it if things like video wouldnt be a blue screen when desktop effects are on. this affect skype, vlc and kaffeine (though there is a way to fix kaffeine)
this is probably the fsult of those applications developers, but still... - TheWindBlows, on 08/31/2008, -0/+1From what i know the feature will be coming to Gnome and no doubt KDE4 will get this feature or a similar one.
- Vadi0, on 08/31/2008, -1/+1Heh. With that attitude, I'll never be on KDE :)
- arjie, on 08/31/2008, -1/+1auto-hide was in KDE 3 I think.
Anyway, while I don't get your point at all in posting this I think I should talk about this RSS newsreader gadget included by default. It is idiotic. You have to open IE7 and add the feed to the Favourites Center there. That makes no sense! If I'm browsing with Firefox (because IE7 has this lag on creating a tab) why should I open some browser? The most obvious thing would be to copy the RSS feed to a New Feed box in the newsreader gadget. I wanted to use it, but I find IE7's interface horrendous. While the newsreader gadget looks good they killed it for me by linking it to IE7.
Also, because I really wanted a newsreader I went looking for one. And this bit about several websites with hundreds of thousands of gadgets is a bad thing, you can't find anything useful at all. Most of the newsreader gadgets are pay-for and the one I finally found (Hermes) has this silly way of repeating some subtitle unlike any feedreader (or even the default newsreader gadget) and so I couldn't actually see a new entry. Also, it had no proper way of showing a new entry.
Nothing against Vista, I'm using it at the moment. Even though I prefer using a Linux distro, I think Vista is actually pretty fine. However, those two things just triggered off memories of a frustrating search for an RSS feedreader a few months back. This includes that damn site that you get linked to if you click "Get more gadgets..." - mcrules, on 08/31/2008, -1/+1I must say, I would love gnome to have some of the features of KDE, but the last time i used it, there was about 10 different ways you could change a setting or option. Its a shame we cannot have the best of both worlds. Gnomes simplicity in UI and KDE's reconfigurability.
I must also add that i agree with the comment that adding K to the beginning of every program is dumb, if only when browsing through packages for goodies, its silly. - inactive, on 08/31/2008, -2/+2That is a great list of improvements - I especially want the speed improvements. It runs fast but it freezes up often - Come on, Qt4 can pull off more than that, KDE team.
- geekworking, on 08/31/2008, -0/+0How about adding printer setup to system settings. They really need to fill in the few remaining holes in features before looking to extend the new features.
- ethana2, on 08/31/2008, -0/+0If I could have complete specs OR a proprietary driver from them, I'd take the specs.
I'm a gnome user, and nVidia is PISSING ME OFF by reducing the amount of choice I have in desktop environments. - estvir, on 09/01/2008, -1/+1Are you illiterate?
- ethana2, on 08/31/2008, -0/+0Wait, so you're using it on nVidia just by using a different window manager? Hmmmm......
I don't know why I didn't try that.. Ah yes, I didn't want to have gnome and kde4 installed on the same partition 'cause it makes the menus look like crap. I'll have to remember this and give it a try, thanks. - Gavagai80, on 08/31/2008, -1/+1G is such an obviously superior letter. I don't know how those fools live with K.
- BLeAm, on 11/17/2008, -0/+0Your reason to hate or love something is just this?
- morhippo, on 09/02/2008, -0/+0Check out GTK-KDE4, it may help you with the bad look of GTK apps.
http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/gtk-kde4? ...
Description:
Allows you to change style, icons, font of GTK applications in KDE4. After installing, "GTK styles" tab will appear in Systemsettings. If you have qt4 theme installed, you may choose "Use сurrent KDE style", to make your GTK apps look like KDE ones (press "Apply" every time, when you change you KDE style) . Or you can choose another installed GTK theme. You also can change icon themes, and fonts. Instructions how to install inside archives, in readme files. -
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