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- gldfshnpcklejar, on 10/11/2007, -26/+211I have tried to switch to linux 3 times. I don't stay because I don't understand the file structure and everything seems to be in 100 locations, where as I have spent the last 10 years using windows based file structures, I know where everything is, I know how to install stuff.. Every time I try and convert I get stressed out, because I can't find a setting, I have no idea where to save stuff, my ATI card doesn't have decent drivers, etc. When I install so and so with wine it won't uninstall. MythTV looks like ass and the codecs suck.
There are tons of guides out there. But having to google 10 different guides when setting up programs that aren't in repositories gets real old real fast.
It's just really hard to transition from the fact that C:Program Files<Insert Program Name Here> in Windows is in 12 locations that don't make any sense because all of the folders are three letter names. Having to go to terminal for just about every setup or editing a file and using sudo. Copying files etc. Everything seems to be in disarray, some programs only work right with such and such distro.
That's why I won't switch to Linux... yet. - borninda818, on 10/11/2007, -45/+156"Another aspect to my education theory is that they aren't educated on the fact that all the Linux rumor are NOT true, (There aren't enough applications, the right application isn't available, etc)."
buddy, drivers suck...I've been using ubuntu on my laptop for a while now and it's is pretty bad. My printer driver sucks, for one. Some of the page always gets cut off. The wireless network card just doesn't work...I've tried several networks including starbuck and it just didn't connect. At first the screen was the wrong resolution and the right one wasnt available. I fixed that but had to go into terminal for it. Video card drivers are bad too, but improving. The programs are there, but they suck. GIMP image editor is no photoshop. I need mastercam for my job...that wont work either. finally, open office can be compared to microsoft office 97, not 2007.
Oh, and there are no games, besides solitaire. If you want to play ANYTHING you have to use wine or some other emulator, which can get complicated at times and often doesnt work good.
I use ubuntu and like it for it's look and feel...but it doesnt compare to XP, Vista, or OSX - resplence, on 10/11/2007, -11/+103@gldfshnpcklejar:
Dugg for summing up all the issues I've had with ubuntu both times I tried to switch.
The funny thing is, my programmer friends berated me for assuming I was just used to Windows and too lazy to learn, when it simply doesn't really make sense. It was also somehow my obligation to know or find out the command line commands to perform various operations I didn't even know would require sudo commands. If I asked "why can't I just navigate to 'folder settings' or something meaningful and do this over a GUI?" they'd say something to the effect of "there's the Windows mentality again".
So, extending the analogy of the article, Windows is more popular than Linux because it's a car that already comes with tires, a working engine, a steering wheel and comfortable seats. You know, everything you'd want -- or expect -- of a good car "out-of-the-box". - Mekun, on 10/11/2007, -20/+93NO linux lacks the ease of use, osx and windows has a easy learning curve. People are not lazy they have better things to do than to learn how to get hardware to work right.Not all people have nothing better to do than learn there os, surf the net play some games and get email thats what most people do. They dont want to know how to recompile there kernel.
- whatsgoodike, on 10/11/2007, -23/+95while this IS a clever analogy; i don't think it's right on the money by any means...
I think the number one reason that people are not using Linux: Education. They simply do not know how to use it!
Most people out there today seem to need to have their hands held when learning computers in the first place (not Digg users, of course); I'm sure most don't want to go through that again for Linux.
Another aspect to my education theory is that they aren't educated on the fact that all the Linux rumor are NOT true, (There aren't enough applications, the right application isn't available, etc).
Start our children using Linux and it just might take over, in 15 years... - jshabad00, on 10/11/2007, -69/+124How so? This is the same old idiotic fanaticism crap that makes absolutely no sense. There are plenty of good reasons to drive a hybrid... saving money is not one of them... saving the environment is not one of them... (for most people). Windows is plenty secure for the type of person that is capable of running GNU/Linux today. The type of user that can't use Windows securely is not going to be able to edit their xorg.conf in a pinch. Get your heads out of your @#$%$^ and get real. Linux is a lot of work.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -4/+56Hint: it is because Windows works fine for almost everyone.
- agimat, on 10/11/2007, -8/+54@resplence
[ The funny thing is, my programmer friends berated me for assuming I was just used to Windows and too lazy to learn, when it simply doesn't really make sense. It was also somehow my obligation to know or find out the command line commands to perform various operations I didn't even know would require sudo commands. If I asked "why can't I just navigate to 'folder settings' or something meaningful and do this over a GUI?" they'd say something to the effect of "there's the Windows mentality again". ]
The attitude you got from your friends is yet another reason why people won't switch. - coheedcollapse, on 10/11/2007, -2/+44That's not true at all. I dual boot Linux and Windows (Windows much more than Linux) and I use Windows primarily for many more reasons than "It's just there". I have a ton of programs that do stuff on Windows better than in Linux (I don't care what you say, GIMP is not as good as Photoshop.) Games are another huge issue. Also, even with Ubuntu, I can't ever picture my mom or someone else who doesn't know that much about computers being able to set up a Linux system without a lot of help. As simple as it is it still isn't as simple as Windows to get up and running on a machine with everything that someone might want (even if it IS more simple to install and upgrade as soon as you get everything up and running.)
I hate when OS elitists get in these little circle jerks like this. Sure using Linux feels good because it's secure, totally free, and non-profit, but there are plenty of reasons that people use Windows other than "they're stupid and don't want to change". - salmonmoose, on 10/11/2007, -7/+44People don't use linux, because linux nerds spend their time writing articles like this rather than fixing the problems with the system.
Get the OS right and people will come. Look at the sheep flocking to OSX, what ever the price of Windows, the cost of Apple hardware exceeds it by far. OSX has far more barriers than Linux and people want to use it - because it JUST WORKS. The same as Windows.
Heck, even BeOS has less trouble installing video drivers/networks than linux. - theuber1337, on 10/11/2007, -8/+37Whether you want to admit it or not jshabad00 is right. Anyone capable of running Linux is perfectly capable of running a stable and clean Windows machine. Just because they can doesn't mean they should or that they have too. My windows computers never give me any problem and I have two other Linux computers... but I'm perfectly happy with my Windows computers, so why do I need Linux?
Seriously, anyone incapable of keeping up a Windows machine is not going to have much of a picnic setting up Linux. And for the average consumer it isn't practical.
Lets say Average Bill switches, it's a hassle, but he managed to slide by. Now a month later lets say his boss hands him some new software the company is using and tells him he needs to use it... but it doesn't natively run on Linux. Bill is, as some would say, *****. He now needs to go back to the old Windows. - Vanden, on 10/11/2007, -0/+28You can't compare switching to Linux (free) with buying a more efficient car (very not free)
- Sep11insidejob, on 10/11/2007, -10/+38For me is only games
I am going to get a 2nd computer and install Ubuntu there. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -11/+38oh hey, u should try a different OS, that you don't know how to use, and that has less support for the programs you use daily, and is a pain in the ass 99% of the time... come on, you know you want to!
- chworktap, on 10/11/2007, -2/+28Clever analogy? Comparing Windows usage to driving wasteful gas-guzzling cars completely misses the mark. The analogy implies that people use Windows because they're apathetic and they just don't know any better. And it's simply not clear that there's much better to know any of! I buy a PC from anywhere and it comes with Windows, Office, and a Web Browser. Is there really any sufficiently compelling reason for the average user to invest energy in changing out their OS? There are certainly minuses to Windows, but they need to be so vastly compelling that they drive users to install or better yet drive the market to ship more machines with Linux preinstalled.
- schestowitz, on 10/11/2007, -9/+34A key point, IMHO, involves the need to re-learn things. Had everyone used Linux 'by default', nobody would have switched to Windows. Any switch has a cost.
- toxicvarn90, on 10/11/2007, -11/+31You expect with open source to have innovations to appear quickly and bugs fixed quickly. But none of that happens. The problem is motivation. The only motivation that volunteer programmers have is that they are sticking it to copyright software.
MS and OSX appeal to end users because they have sufficient core foundations they make their OS manageable. Like OSX's coreAudio Image Video and soon to come Animations. Or the fact that MS and OSX have built in library to easily detect drivers because they have made deals with the companies that make them.
All in all it comes down to the programmers. Companies hire the most experienced programmers, open source lets anyone jump one. Companies pay programmers to work on a tight schedule, open source has volunteers that follow a road map if they feel like it.
I think Open Source needs a more sufficient and attractive management program. Seriously, I'm a cheap bastard and I need better programs then just firefox. - BostonLow, on 10/11/2007, -1/+20Games, wireless network device, rare hardware drivers, Adobe products, copy protected software that doesn't recognize dongle under WINE, etc force me to use Windows. They may say Linux is better, but it sure as hell ain't useful to me.
- smellmyballs, on 10/11/2007, -2/+19Well, I don't use Linux because every computer or laptop I bought came pre-loaded with one form of Windows or another and the programs I already invested money and time learning work on windows. Also, since there are several flavors of Linux and being a relative noob to Linux, I wouldn't want to invest time in one flavor of Linux and find out that there is a better version I could have used instead. (Please don't digg me down for this, I'm speaking totally honestly here). However, I would seriously consider Linux if it came pre-installed as a dual booted option on a new computer with Windows along with Open Office, media player, photo editor, etc. already installed so that I can check ease of use and productivity side by side to their windows counterparts. I as a consumer would NOT buy a Linux only system for the exact reason the article states, it's something different and new. If it came dual booted I can play with it at will and determine for myself if it is for me. Lastly, and I'm sure I'm going to get dugg down for this...THE COMMAND LINE SUCKS and truly puts off many casual users from dipping a single toe into the Linux pond. If Linux is going to go mainstream, the average person has to feel some level of comfort with it...and the command line is not helping. If a program requires any level of tweaking via the command line, even excellent ones such as Beryl, then you can kiss the average mainstream user goodbye. Seriously, how hard is it to make a GUI for that stuff? Just some honest thoughts guys.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -4/+20Humans are creatures of habit.
Although i agree with that in the article and that only; isnt everyone sick to death of car analogys? - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+17Another reason might be that I tried, but my wireless adapter was not supported, and thus, my internet would not work. If I wanted it to work, I had to learn dozens of Linux commands, compress files, convert then to .zips, etc. Way too much work. Call me when they support my adapter.
- chriswo, on 10/11/2007, -5/+19I disagree about the analogy being great - I think Linux's lack of success and $3/gallon complacency are different.
Linux sucks because it doesn't have 1,000 Redmond-based engineers working with vendors to make hardware and OS work together. That work is thankless and ugly. The volunteer-based, spare-time Linux community doesn't have an interest in doing it. Microsoft is successful because it pays enough to get smart people to do it.
Next, people are still buying $3 gas because it's the price of admission for the North American dream. What American father will tell his little princess she can't go to her friend's birthday party because of gas prices? We Americans don't know how to live without transportation...so we pay. We'll keep paying until someone comes up with a better alternative, because we have to....HAVE TO....get to the mall and do more shopping. - cantormath, on 10/11/2007, -3/+17Because most people dont install their own OS and you cant really buy linux in stores.
- FlaG8r, on 10/11/2007, -1/+14"If you're not willing to take some time out to help yourself, why would you expect anyone else to take their time out to help you?"
Because someone does? They're very popular from what I've heard.
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I have Ubuntu installed on a box, but my primary computer is still Windows. I can only type 'sudo' so many times in one day. - cdmarcus, on 10/11/2007, -4/+17So many people here are saying that its the responsibility of the Linux developers to get every little bit of hardware reverse-engineered and set up with a driver. The fact is, Microsoft doesn't have to worry about that at all! Due to the leading position of Windows, they don't have to spend half as much time as Linux developers do on getting things to work right with different hardware. The fact is, there is nothing wrong with Linux at all... the only real problems come about when hardware doesn't work or you can't find the software you need. We shouldn't be blaming Linux developers for this, or saying that they're not motivated. If you spend 20 minutes on Ubuntu, my favorite distro, you'll find that things are a lot easier than in a Windows install. When you try to play a DivX file, it prompts you to install the codec. On Windows, you get a fairly uninformative dialog telling you that it's your responsibility to figure out which codec you need. Installing most software (emphasis on most) in Ubuntu (I don't know if other distros have gnome-app-install) is as easy as going to Applications>Add/Remove and typing what you're looking for into the search box. With Windows, you need to use standard search engines, and it's your responsibility to decide what's safe and what's not. In pretty much any Linux distribution, all of your software is updated automatically, without you having to worry about which applications are at their latest versions. The fact is, Linux is an amazing operating system, and rather than insulting the hard work of the developers, try to convince the software developers to start paying Linux a little attention. I'm sure the software companies don't enjoy being in Microsoft's back pocket any more than you or I would. Linux may be less usable because of issues with drivers and proprietary software, but that doesn't change the quality of the actual OS itself.
- olegk, on 10/11/2007, -3/+15The main reason I don't switch is the availability of Photoshop. I tried GIMP, but it's ages behind photoshop, especially when it comes to professional photo editing.
Then I have a friend, who is a Unix sysadmin, so he knows linux/unix very well, that's his job. Last time I visited him he spent half an hour trying to play a movie. It works fine on my Win machine, all I need is to install a codec pack once, and it works just fine.
Linux doesn't work out of the box, you need ton of tweaking, you need to read tons of manuals to install any non-standard hardware.
I use Unix at work as a command-line (no GUI), and it's good, but I wouldn't switch my home PC to Linux yet. I'm sure it will be ready for deskop use in 3-5 years. But not yet. - theuber1337, on 10/11/2007, -1/+13@chriswo
I'm American, and I'd point my daughter to a bike or a job. She may hate me for it, but it's the price of being a responsible parent. - eatmorgnome, on 10/11/2007, -2/+14@Aliarse
It may be hard for someone like you to understand, but most people would rather not spend a week looking for Linux drivers.
I am one of these people. I also would not like to change the timing belt in my car by myself. And, I prefer to use a washing machine to wash my clothes. Oh, and my garbage disposal broke last week, and I had someone else fix it. - reevolutn, on 10/11/2007, -4/+16and here i was expecting a rational explaination along the lines of diffuculties setting up / getting hardware to work / getting software to work / learning new software like open office... guess not
- davidburns, on 10/11/2007, -1/+13Maybe its because consumers just don't care for the most part as long as things work? Among people who aren't incredibly tech savvy, the operating system just isn't that big of an issue. As long as they can do what they want to do (and its not too complicated), they don't care about it, period.
- Mekun, on 10/11/2007, -8/+19Because not everyone is a geek and wants to figure out how there pc works. Pull your head out of your linux ass.
- redxii, on 10/11/2007, -2/+13Seriously!
Linux is supposedly about choice and freedom, that is, unless you're not using it. If you're not using it, all the geeks and nerds come out of their basement and start pecking at you demanding you to switch and demanding an explanation as to why you prefer something else.
"Linux may be better, but they don't know Linux." A purely subjective statement. - grumpyrain, on 10/11/2007, -2/+12People still use Windows because for most of them, their experience is not the hell hole it is made out to be. FUD is not so believable when you live with the monster. The article links to driver complaints from March. NVidia has their act together now. The 19 security flaws linked to only has 7 critical flaws. Of those 7, only 2 affect Vista. The true security status of Vista is that there are only two known outstanding issues, both non-critical. Vista ships with automatic updates on (as did XP SP2 and everything since), so they are already patched unless you have manually told it not to.
http://secunia.com/product/13223/?task=advisories
People will move to Linux when it does all they need it to and when it is no longer worth the money to buy Windows.
How to share a printer in Windows:
* Locate Printers and Faxes in Control Panel
* Right Click the printer and select Sharing
* Click 'Share this Printer', and then OK.
How to share a printer in Ubuntu, presuming there is a reasonable driver available.
* Open up a Terminal Window and start typing
cd /usr/share/cups
./enable_browsing 1
sudo edit /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
* Edit various lines in the file so they look like below:
# Listen 127.0.0.1:631
Port 631
Browsing On
BrowseAddress @LOCAL
Order Deny,Allow
Deny From All
Allow From 127.0.0.1
Allow From @LOCAL
* Save and close the file
* Type into the terminal
sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart
Seriously, I don't know why these Windows fanboys are making it sound like such a big deal. I mean even my grandmother could figure that one out. - anonymousguy, on 10/11/2007, -2/+11People won't switch to Linux until there is a large following of commercial consumer software developed for it. Open source software, hate to say it, is of generally poor quality (not all of it) --- and let's face it, programmers tend not to be experts on usability.
Again, there are always exceptions, and there may be many of them out there, but by and large I find that for an application to be useful, pleasant to use, and with a thoughtful and powerful interface, it has to have profit involved.
Photoshop, InDesign, Illustrator, and Acrobat are four big reasons why I don't use Linux. - Schpariel, on 10/11/2007, -1/+10@wolferz (#6765868)
Your problem is that you don't completely understand the UNIX FSH:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FHS
The FHS actually makes life much easier for administrators... For example you can easily mount directories to different partitions (e.g. seperate /home partition). It's makes more sense than Windows, where everything is dumped in RootDrive:\Windows\System32 - elipabst, on 10/11/2007, -2/+10@ sjbdallas "Oh really? So what games do you play? And i'm assuming you plug your digital camera in to copy photos over, remove the red-eye and mail them to friends? And for work, i guess you don't have any problem creating word documents and powerpoints to send to your boss, right? And I guess you can VPN in to work when necessary from the airport to upload those same files to document database of some kind as well?"
Welcome to about 5 years ago. You seriously think that GIMP can't do red-eye removal, OpenOffice can't save in word format, or use a VPN? Have you even used linux?
Let me know when windows includes an SSH client. - neocr0n, on 10/11/2007, -4/+12If all games released ran on Linux I would switch In a heart beat.
- Slyer, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8"I know that when people say "Linux doesn't have the right application for me" they're wrong 99 percent of the time."
Although, if they say Linux can't run all my favourite games, they're right 99% of the time. - mykos, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8SUV = Windows
Worst analogy I've seen in recent times. It probably made more sense in the author's head than it does to the rest of the world.
By the way, most of the people I know that drive SUVs chose them for the safety of their family, which made the title even weirder. - daftman, on 10/11/2007, -5/+13"I have tried to switch to linux 3 times. I don't stay because I don't understand the file structure and everything seems to be in 100 locations, where as I have spent the last 10 years using windows based file structures, I know where everything is, I know how to install stuff."
The interesting thing is that Windows file structures is very similar to the Unix file structure considering that they never used to be like this back in 3.1
Unix - usr/local/sbin Windows - Program files
Unix - home Windows - document and settings
Unix - etc Windows - Regedit
Unix - bin Windows - system32
"Every time I try and convert I get stressed out, because I can't find a setting, I have no idea where to save stuff, my ATI card doesn't have decent drivers, etc. When I install so and so with wine it won't uninstall."
Of course, it's like you are used to driving a car and now you switch to a motorbike. Things are different, they work differently. Furthermore the graphics problem is with ATI, not Linux. Microsoft has this thing call, hardware compliant list. Same things with linux. Buy the hardware that work with linux.
"MythTV looks like ass and the codecs suck."
Complete subjective. Care to explain why MythTV looks like an ass and "codec" sucks? Linux has mp3, flac, aac as well as ogg, ogm, divx, etc.
"There are tons of guides out there. But having to google 10 different guides when setting up programs that aren't in repositories gets real old real fast."
Well an average joe would usually head to the store and buy a windows guide, like xp or office, etc. They also sell linux guide like red hat, fedora, suse guide in store as well. I think there are more free linux guide on the internet that windows guides. You are just being bias and not actually giving a fair comparison
"It's just really hard to transition from the fact that C:Program Files in Windows is in 12 locations that don't make any sense because all of the folders are three letter names." Well it takes time to get used to. To be honest don't understand the drive numbering system. To me drive refers to a physical disk but since you are working on top of the operating system, why do you need to worry about the physical layer? Why not just the logical layers? What happen if you have a raid? etc Drives don't really make sense? I think the concept of drive is just a left over from MSDOS 6.2
"Having to go to terminal for just about every setup or editing a file and using sudo."
Yep like regediting. The bad thing with regedit is that if your registry file get corrupted, your system is *****. Furthermore you regedit with administration privileges as well. Windows just automatically default to letting you do that thus allowing all the trojans, viruses modifying your registry keys. Notice that the first thing a worm do is usually write in the [RUN] key.
"Copying files etc. Everything seems to be in disarray, some programs only work right with such and such distro."
SOme programs work right for windows, some doesn't. I don't see how you can actualy do a proper comparison.
Well I don't think you should switch to Linux especially when you only have a windows mindset. Linux is not a free version of windows. It's not a windows clone so please don't expect it to work and behave like windows.
I don't understand why you are actually getting mod up? You are not even giving a fair comparison. Is there alot of people here who expect Linux to be JUST like windows but free?
Sorry for the long comment. - JonnyTrombone, on 10/11/2007, -3/+11Hold on... Gas for $3.14!? With prices that low, I could afford Windows Vista!
- illegalamigo, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8I can tell you why I didn't switch to linux.
I tried installing it. I was impressed by some of its features.
ATI cards don't get along with Ubuntu. I posted on the help forums. No one could really help me.I could either install Windows or f around in some foreign command prompt. I even gave that a shot (4-5 hours of trying to download and install drivers). I copied the commands that people gave me on the support forums and no dice. Eventually I gave up and I'm running Windows still.
I forget what it's called, but that ui plugin (with the rotating three-dimensional cube, capable of information on every side shown in real-time) is still one of the sweetest interfaces I've seen on a personal computer. - ShazerFox, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9Actually, I HAVE tried running an nvidia card with Vista and it works great. I'm finding more and more the people that complain about Vista have never actually tried using it.
Another thought...it's not so easy for the average starving college student to just run out and buy the latest $25k hybrid because gas spiked during the summer again. Besides, a little Prius isn't going to get me home over the canyon during the winter here. We're not all dumb suburbians driving our Hummers to buy groceries, ya know! - sjbdallas, on 10/11/2007, -6/+13Exactly. And no one has to write articles arguing the merits of the Windows OS to the masses who refuse to use it. Linux is a pain in the ass--i've tried switching to is several times and never stayed with it.
- Beatmiser, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7Jesus- I had to pull teeth to get my family on Firefox. I'll be ***** if I try to take Windows away.
- Kr4t05, on 10/11/2007, -27/+34"...and there are no games, besides solitaire.."
Is it that hard to open Synaptic and look in the games section?
FlightGear, BZFlag, Neverball, gl-117, Balazar, Planeshift, Chromium, and several console emulators are all available from the repositories. A mere 3 clicks, and you're playing the best of FOSS gaming.
And, as for commercial games, don't discount id and Epic, makers of the Doom/Quake and Unreal Tournament series', respectively. Combine these games with the countless mods floating about the Internet and you have quite a few hours of fun ahead.
(FYI: UT2K4 is only $10 on New-Egg and Doom 3 is down in that range, also. You need a semi-beefy system for either, but, if you call yourself a Windows gamer, you should have more than enough power. :) )
If you have any real trouble running games in Wine, try the How-to section at Linux-Gamers.org. They can be extremely helpful at times.
Hang in there. Yes, it is frustrating, but as more people start demanding good games on Linux, more developers will start to listen. (Hopefully.) - DaysInTheDark, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8This article is so frigtarded and flat out wrong. Wrong, wrong, wrong.
There is NOT a linux alternative for every program. And of course a huge part of Windows use is gaming. And no, the average user rarely, if ever, has to run regedit or use a command prompt.
And the analogy is just wrong anyway, since SUV sales ARE down. - daftman, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6@lttwinkie
I don't understand what you are trying to prove. You go to the linux section on digg posting that you are comfortable with windows and won't switch? What's the point? Do you get more people to go to windows this way? Does microsoft pay you to say this?
Obviously Linux isn't aim at people like you. There's no linux campaign that target people who knows windows machine inside out.
No I think Linux target those who are still undecisive, those who want a secure working environment, those who want to have a free operating system, and those who are interested in modifying applications to suit their business needs.
Next time you can ask a vendor like Adobe to modify it's software to suit your business need, you come back here and tell us. Until then I am pretty sure linux isn't aim at users like you. - Schpariel, on 10/11/2007, -2/+8@Rhino2 (#6766255)
> Also the fact that most of the program for Linux just spray their ***** all over the file system
This NEVER HAPPENS if you stick with the official packages for your distro. And besides, both Linux and *BSD use the UNIX FSH.
It's almost the same on all *NIX systems, an installed program would place it's binaries in /usr/bin, it's libraries in /usr/lib, and it's resources in /usr/share - and besides, the typical user doesn't even need to touch the file system. That's what packages are for. - Werrismys, on 10/11/2007, -2/+8Re-learn? You assume everyone knows Windows. I've been using Linux since 1994 and commercial Unixes before that. When Win95 came out I immediately recognized it as an awkward piece of ***** user-interface wise. It hasn't got much better since that.
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