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- Zounas, on 07/19/2008, -6/+85And Linux's days are characterized.
- pedepy, on 07/19/2008, -2/+56in the year two thousannnnnnnd...
- Novem30, on 07/19/2008, -9/+53MS releases (so far free) virtualization software that directly competes with VMWare's main product and then a VMWare exec says a MS product days are numbered...
- Gullop, on 07/20/2008, -10/+44*****.
- cyphin6, on 07/20/2008, -6/+32Just a linux fanboy ranting nothing to see here move along...
- yargthepirate, on 07/19/2008, -17/+42In related news, Paul Harapin is an idiot.
- GezusK, on 07/20/2008, -3/+28When VMWare can finally do 3D rendering in a virtual machine, I'll start believing.
- shamess, on 07/20/2008, -7/+29I honestly doubt it. I finally made the switch to Ubuntu and was happy with it; I put the problems down to my being new with it and I'll find out better ways to do things eventually. But, the show stopper was when I couldn't run World of Warcraft at more than two fps when it was emulated so I had to switch back to Windows.
- diggdiggdug, on 07/19/2008, -50/+70Please be true. Please be true. Please be true.
- kelerps, on 07/19/2008, -23/+41Let me put it this way: Windows will never die until Apple lowers the prices of their computers to be affordable to the world like the PC. Apple would have a good chance if they let their OS be installed on regular computers instead of attempting a monopoly on their hardware.
- skidooer, on 07/20/2008, -1/+16No, but Sun does. And it's free.
- gfxlonghorn, on 07/20/2008, -5/+20My dick said the exact same thing, but he also told me cupping that girl's ass would be a good idea.
- Toupee, on 07/20/2008, -4/+19Here, I just did the research for you. With links!
Rosewill Mid ATX Case ($44) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 ...
Gigabyte Mobo ($95) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 ...
Intel Dual-Core Celeron 2.0GHz ($65) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 ...
4 GB Corsair RAM ($109 / $79 after rebate) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 ...
GeForce 8800GTS 512mb video card ($180 / $150 after rebate) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 ...
Rosewill 550W Power Supply ($55) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 ...
Lite-On DVD Burner ($23) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 ...
500GB Western Digital Hard Drive ($75) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 ...
Total: $646. That's not including shipping, but it's also not including some of those mail-in rebates. And it completely kicks that Mac Mini's ASS. - thePTS, on 07/20/2008, -2/+16Yeah, I'm sure MS releases Windows virtualization software for Mac and Linux.
- inactive, on 07/20/2008, -3/+16Wow, you are really bad at that, you shouldn't ever try that again...
http://www.newegg.com/Store/SubCategory.aspx?SubCa ... - cliffzdude, on 07/20/2008, -3/+15The guy isn't saying that Windows days are numbered really, he's saying using an application installed on an OS in the enterprise environment is numbered. That includes Linux, Unix, Apple's OS, Windows, etc...
What he IS saying is that like a Cisco router, you'll buy an appliance to host email, an appliance that runs your Intranet, a Web Server appliance, a NAS appliance. All appliances.
Personally I'd hate that day. And I think the guy is full of horse pucky. Sure, some applications run great as an appliance. But as an IT pro I'd really hate to see our jobs become that of appliance button monkeys. - MooseTaag, on 07/20/2008, -5/+17Are you saying there is something wrong with corporations trying to profit off their product?
- gradivus, on 07/20/2008, -4/+16I dont know what you are smoking. A fully loaded mini costs over $1000 and my computer beats it on every benchmark you can set (other than wifi and BT, but a simple dongle for each of those is cheap, I dont use them so I dont need them), and my comp is $600 less.
mobo-60
proc-50
case-40
vid-110
hd-140
mem-40
dvd-20
XPprosp2-60
shipping-40
And all my parts are higher specs than the mac. - bjornski, on 07/20/2008, -1/+13Windows days are numbered because now EVERYONE can run Windows!
Oh wait.... - sirhomer, on 07/20/2008, -0/+11Newest beta version of VMWare supports DX9, including shaders.
- clubby, on 07/20/2008, -1/+12Wait ... you tried to run WoW through VMWare? Running games through VMWare will not likely work out. To run WoW under Linux, use Wine. You will actually get a 3-5% fps *boost* -- and a tip for the future: if you have trouble with something under Linux, just Google it. You'll see everyone talking about their Wine setup, and clue in. Giving up with out trying (your approach) often yields poor results.
- quiggibub, on 07/20/2008, -1/+12What ads?
- RedHerringHack, on 07/20/2008, -1/+12That was so tasty man, thanks.
- Ryan2845, on 07/20/2008, -4/+15Ah yes, the old mac fan claiming you can't build a pc cheaper than a mac mini.
Just did a quick one:
2.4 ghz processor 119
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 ...
MB 59.99 with onboard audio
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 ...
160GB HD 39.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 ...
CD/DVD burner 22.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 ...
GeForce 7300GT 512MB graphics card 74.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 ...
2GB of DDR2 667 RAM (same as mac uses) 39.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 ...
bluetooth 16.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 ...
wifi 26.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 ...
Throw in maybe 50 bucks for a case with powersupply
total
450.93
with better specs than the mac mini, especially on graphics card.
Most of us have a copy of XP sitting around all ready, so who cares about that, but even if you don't you can get XP Home for 99 bucks
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 ...
so 550 worst case, with better specs, and you could bring it down more with a cheaper vid card, or a mobo with built in wifi/bluetooth - naszaklasa, on 07/20/2008, -0/+10https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/186 ...
- inactive, on 07/20/2008, -5/+15So davidisman, how does it feel to be completely destroyed?
- inactive, on 07/20/2008, -4/+14This is not apt seeing as how the Mac Mini is a speciality machine, not a general one. Also, you're an idiot and didn't actually do this comparison. Because you can _always_ build a PC with better specs than that for less.
There is no ***** myth. Mac's are more expensive than custom built PCs. Period. Accept it.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 ...
Better specs than the Mac mini. Same price. And that's without even building it yourself.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 ...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 ...
Better specs! Cheaper! - McBradd, on 07/20/2008, -0/+10Of Course their Exec is going to say it's the future. It's just like a Microsoft Exec saying 'Vista' is the future.
Just because it's Pro-Linux doesn't make it Holy Revelation. - chuzwuzza, on 07/20/2008, -0/+10I would certainly hope it supports graphics. It would be kind of pointless running applications you can't see.
- inyearstocome, on 07/20/2008, -0/+9Wine runs WoW absolutely wonderfully. Perhaps you were using a generic graphics driver.
- dcherryholmes, on 07/20/2008, -3/+12If you were trying to run WoW on a VMware windows install, no wonder it failed horribly. There is no 3D accel (yet) in VMware. What you want to do is run it under Wine, which is not emulation. I hear it works well.
- thePTS, on 07/20/2008, -3/+12Hm, here are some tips:
1) dualboot.. still essential
2) go to appdb.winehq.org and learn how to configure WoW with wine. (the -opengl switch for instance) - iatebabies, on 07/20/2008, -6/+15computerworld.com ***** sucks, ***** those ads.
- manbearpigm16, on 07/20/2008, -1/+10Wow third time I've seen this article on digg. Makes me wanna switch to reddit or slashdot.
- venuspcs, on 07/20/2008, -1/+9I hate to tell you but I have a Toshiba Satellite A215 laptop with 2 GB ram. I am running Ubuntu 8.04 SINGLE BOOT and using Virtual Box (with a custom compiled kernel) to run Windows Vista in a VM using 1 GB of my ram for Vista and 1 GB for Ubuntu and Vista actually runs an ass load faster with less crashes in the VM than when installed directly as the only Operating System. Of course the reason for this is likely crappy ass hardware drivers in the full blown install vs well written fake hardware drivers for fake hardware in the VM but still it is TWICE AS FAST IN THE VM.
- Fergy, on 07/20/2008, -0/+8Say it with us shames: "Wine Is Not an Emulator"
- cam0man, on 07/20/2008, -0/+8'These people'? You realize that VMWare's focus is on enterprise, not consumer applications. Til virtual box comes out with enterprise level software....it's like comparing a yaris to an 18 wheeler.
- Archer007, on 07/20/2008, -2/+10Too expensive.
- YodaJones, on 07/19/2008, -10/+18We still use windows on VirtualBox for some applications. But those application's days are probably numbered.
- iroc409, on 07/20/2008, -4/+12The list below includes all of your requirements, for $371.92. That, as you'll see, includes Vista Home Premium. All from Newegg.com. Doh!
*LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner Black IDE Model DH-20A4P-04 - OEM
*Maxtor DiamondMax 21 STM3160815AS 160GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - Retail
*AZiO AWD154a PCI 802.11g 54Mbps Wireless PCI Adapter - Retail
*Kingston ValueRAM 1GB (2 x 512MB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model KVR800D2N5K2/1G - Retail
* GIGABYTE GA-73VM-S2 LGA 775 NVIDIA GeForce 7050/nForce 610i Micro ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
* TRENDnet TBW-105UB USB 2.0 Compact Bluetooth Adapter - Retail
* Intel Pentium E2180 Allendale 2.0GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80557E2180 - Retail
* APEX SK337-A Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 350W Power Supply - Retail
* Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 32-bit English 1pk for System Builders DSP OEI DVD - OEM - specialK16, on 07/20/2008, -0/+7Lmao.
http://www.vmware.com/products/esxi/ - TaeBoX, on 07/20/2008, -1/+8Is sparta?
- fangorious, on 07/20/2008, -1/+8It's not a server virtualiztion product though. VirtualBox competes with VMware workstation. VMware's big push is to replace multiple servers with VM appliances running on their server platform.
- cplusplus, on 07/20/2008, -1/+8Almost everyone uses one of:
# KWin (originally called KWM, default for KDE)
# Metacity (the current default for the GNOME desktop environment) - RedHerringHack, on 07/20/2008, -2/+9You are not the audience.
- SifuMoKung, on 07/20/2008, -0/+7I disagree. The latest release of Ubuntu runs on my old laptop that cannot run XP. In fact, I'd have to install Win98 if I wanted to run windows. Ubuntu runs as fast on my old Pentium III as XP does on my P4 desktop.
- Myztry, on 07/20/2008, -2/+8MS virtualisation will be like every other (except maybe Office) application and go through a dozen name change each time it fails, fails, fails to capture the market. And each version will be incompatible with each other to 'encourage' updates. Each version will be free (inclusive cost) much like the Open Source counterparts that Microsoft bitches about.
The ironic thing is Microsoft has been using the 'free' approach since before Open Source became mainstream. - RedHerringHack, on 07/20/2008, -2/+8Actually, yes. For a VM that you can fire up install-fresh immune to hackattack? F-yeah they will, and do.
- Ryan2845, on 07/20/2008, -3/+9Even your listed specs on the Mac mini are wrong, you are just misleading people. The mini with the specs you listed is $799
http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_mac/fam ...
The 599 one as 1.8ghz and 80gig HD - Arghblarg, on 07/20/2008, -1/+7THE DISTANT FUTURE
THE YEAR TWO THOUSAND -
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